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  • susancats
    susancats Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2013

    Hi Stride & Cocobean and Annette47!



    Welcome. I'm kind of a beginner here, but looking forward to chatting with you ladies.



    I am ONE THIRD done today!! 11/33 treatments!! Feels good to be at that milestone. Today I looked at my nipple and areola area- starting to look red & a little bit upset with me. The other one looks pasty pale by comparison.



    I slathered on the GOO (Aquaphor) and hope if I can just keep it from blistering, cracking or peeling I'll be ahead of the game.



    About the aloe I read here- do people do that in place of Aquaphor, mix it, alternate it?? Whatever helps I'll do.



    Thanks ladies! Keep fighting the good fight!! <3</p>

  • SwgeeWi
    SwgeeWi Member Posts: 315
    edited January 2013

    Hi Ladies!  Finally!! I have my first Rad treatment today!! It feels like forever ago since my lumpectomy(11/29) and now I can finally move on to this next phase.  And I thought I was a patient person. Ha! I get to go in 20 minutes early so my RO can take pics, oh boy!(part of the study), and fill out a quality of life form. Based on what I've read here in the forum, I'm guessing my quality of life form will be quite different at the end of Rads!

    Congrats to all who have finished!  I can't wait to be there. (Not that I'm looking forward to Tamoxifen, but it is what it is.)

    Good luck to those just starting as well! Best wishes and prayers to all.

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited January 2013

    Loving- I've been on the tamoxifen since I started rads (December 11th) so far so good.  I've had the hot flashes and the night sweats, but they have calmed down a bit.  Instead of having 10 night sweats a night I may have like four so that's better!  At least I get better sleep with less night sweats!  And I have noticed that my sleep is disrupted, but I think it's more the night sweats that's doing it and I'm now sleeping a bit better than I was.  Susancats-  I have not had a problem with yeast infections so far.  I have had more discharge than before, but it hasn't caused any yeast infections.

    Cowpower- What a wonderful surprise for your friends to take you on a shopping trip to NYC!  That would be so much fun...even though I don't quilt!  Just being with friends and not thinking about this BC crap is priceless.

    Lifeonitsside- Hope today isn't too emotional for you as you finish up!  Congrats on today being the last day of rads! 

    Loneskier- I start my boosts today.  I wonder how they determine how many we get?  I'm only getting five.  I should be done by Monday!

    Susancats- About Aloe and Aquaphor...I use the Aloe during the week four to five times a day and then on the weekends I switched to the thicker stuff like Aquaphor.  Now that I'm at the end of rads I use the Aquaphor more often.  It just helps with the itching that I have better than the aloe does.  Also I would apply the Aquaphor just before I took a shower or bath to help protect my skin from the hot water.

    As far as what to expect with radiation...the first day will be the longest day as they set you up, take x-rays, and put marks all over your body.  Then after the first day it's pretty much the same thing day after day after day.  You go in, get undressed, lay on the table and they line you up (maybe takes a minute) then the technicians leave and you are there for maybe five minutes and it's all over with.  You get up, get dressed and leave.  It gets monotonous very quickly!  And radiation has it's own little horrible side effects, but they don't start until the end of treatment so it seems easier than chemo.

    I hope everyone has a wonderful day!

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    Question:  Is there a certain brand of deodorant we should/shouldn't use?  I know not to use anything before a treatment but what about the rest of the time...Just in case I get nervous and start to sweat!!! (It's to cold to get overheated)

  • SwgeeWi
    SwgeeWi Member Posts: 315
    edited January 2013

    Hi 5luvbugs.  I just got off the phone with my treatment room tech and asked about deoderant.  She said no deoderant on the side being treated because the metals in the deoderant react with the radiation.  She recommended Tom's deoderant from Toms of Maine. (You can wear that to treatment). It doesn't contain any metals.  She said there are also some natural crystal type deoderants.  I know I've seen Toms at the grocery store.  I'm assuming a health food store might carry the crystal kind. I think I'm going to try Tom's.:) 

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited January 2013

    The nurse at my place said anything without aluminum is fine, but specifically recommended Toms of Maine as an easy to find brand, so that's what I'm using.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited January 2013

    Tom's Deodorant smells nasty, IMO.  Worse than BO.

    The thing about aloe vs. Aquaphor...  I found that the aloe washes off better than Aquaphor does, and I made sure to not have any residue of either on me going into the rads appt. 

    What I mean is, my routine went something like:  Get up, shower in warm (not hot) water.  Do not use soap on breast skin, if shampoo runs over the area, no big deal but I never used soap directly on the area.  Then pat dry with towel, then air dry before putting on clothing.  So skin had no residue before treatment.  (That is how the nurses instructed me.)  I could apply some aloe right after treatment.  When I got to the 4th and 5th weeks, I put the aloe on again at home and again before bed.  I had tried my sample of Aquaphor a couple times, applying it in the night but it seemed that it did not rinse off in the shower as well and then I would have to use a washcloth to get it off which is exactly what I did not want to do--rub a cloth on the skin.

    I realize that I did not have the severe blistering that some of you are having, so my comments about these lotions are for unblistered, unbroken skin.  Although I never used it, seem to me that the Silvadene creme is one of the better ones that will promote healing on blistered skin, just by the comments I have read of others that used it.  So, that's my opinion.  There are a lot of choices out there.  My RO was of the opinion that staying moisturized with ANY of the radiation care products was fine and that there was no "magic" one that prevented burns.  That's more "luck of the draw" or some factor that we don't exactly know about.  (I will mention again that "burning" has nothing to do with how pale or swarthy your complexion is.  That is just a myth that will not die.)

  • Shachar
    Shachar Member Posts: 229
    edited January 2013

    I can attest to the fact that skin complexion has nothing to do with it. I am olive skinned and have never had a sunburn, and I burned pretty good. My radonc said that women of dark skin pigmentation have actually been some of the worst burns he has seen.

    19/25 done! I still do not know how many boosts I will have. They still seem to be having a hard time lining me up and took even more xrays this morning, like yesterday, so I am not sure what is going on. It will be nice to just sit back and heal....it can't come soon enough.

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited January 2013

    My RO says about the same thing as elimar's, "My RO was of the opinion that staying moisturized with ANY of the radiation care products was fine and that there was no "magic" one that prevented burns.  That's more "luck of the draw" or some factor that we don't exactly know about."

    I did use a mild, sensitive-skin cleanser on my rads area sometimes but only when I felt I needed to cut through all the lotions I was putting on. Like elimar, I never used a washcloth there during treatments and I still haven't. I also would skip a shower over the weekends to not dry out the skin further. I would still moisturize. That's an old trick from managing eczema - showering every other day and using tons of moisturizer within three minutes of getting out of the shower is a regimen I was told to use for eczema. So for radiation, I skipped showering on at least one weekend day and when I had a day off in the middle of the week (xmas and new year).

    Shachar - I'm so excited for you getting close to the finish line!

    lifeonitsside is finishing up? woohoo!! Congratulations, goddess!

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited January 2013

    Just at the beginning, so can't comment from experience, but my RO told me today that all the lotions, aloe, etc won't prevent the damage - all it does is keep you moisturized so that you FEEL better.

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited January 2013

    My RO's nurse said in her personal observation, skin that has seen more sun seems to burn worse. This is true for me, who is pale and burns very easily, so I've been protective out of necessity. My supraclavicle is several shades darker than my breast and is now peeling.



    My RO says she thinks it's a combo of genetics, skin health and treatment plan. She said there is a study that is taking blood samples before starting rads, looking for proteins or other markers, and comparing to end results of rads. She's hoping the study will find some indicator of skin tolerance to rads so that treatment can be adjusted accordingly. Fascinating. My RO was quite pleased to see how well my breast skin has held up.



    Tomorrow is my last treatment! My RO wants to see me in 4-6 weeks unless I have problems with healing. I will be so excited to be sticker free!

  • SwgeeWi
    SwgeeWi Member Posts: 315
    edited January 2013

    One down, 30 more to go!!

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited January 2013

    SwgeeWi - I'm only one ahead of you, and will miss one day along the way (added to the end) so we should be finishing up around the same day! 

  • Loving
    Loving Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2013

    Lifeonitsside: Congrats!!! Yippee!!



    For the newbies: my center gave me a crystal to use for deordorant. I didn't think it worked at all. I never tried Tom's but I decided not to use anything and yes I stink! I can't wait to smell normal again and to shave! I jokingly tell everyone to avoid sitting on my left side!!



    I picked up my tamoxifen yesterday. Finish rads tomorrow!!!

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    Wow, so much good information - thank you girls,,,and congrats to you Cider onyour last treatment - treat yourself to something niceSmile

  • cypher
    cypher Member Posts: 508
    edited January 2013

    Cider8, Loving, it looks like the three of us are DONE tomorrow!Smile  Just thinking about being done with all this makes me soooooooooooooooooooo happy!!!

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2013

    Hi All, took a day off and had to catch up. Welcome to newbies, I hope we can help you along through the process.



    Loving, I think I hear the drum roll starting for tomorrow! Hope you have a great day.



    Sonson, got my sleeve today. What a difference. I think I will pretty much be able to functionas a human again! I am so glad I got the day "off" with my friends on Saturday. Yesterday turned out to be a back to reality day as my 16 year old son had an acute attack of a genetic paralysis disease that my husbands family has so kindly passed down. I ended up having to call an ambulance and spend the night in the ER and the Pediatric ICU because his potassium levels were so low that his heart rhythms were messed up. I would SO rather go through chemo again than to see him like that. Today, it is all over and he is home and doing fine. Go figure!



    Sachar, I know whatyou mean about the humor. I bonded with my techs the day I asked if they could flash cook my Thanksgiving turkey. My favorite told me that they would be happy to, but sometimes it made the breast meat tough:)

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2013

    Congrats to Cider8 and Cypher also on hitting the finish line tomorrow. Looks like we need a party!

  • ridergirl
    ridergirl Member Posts: 443
    edited January 2013

    A big WOOT WOOT to you ladies that are finishing tomorrow!!!!! 

    I'm suppose to have my CT and I guess tatts would be done at the same time? tomorrow.  Scared frickin' spitless :-( 

    Cowpower- Really?? flash-cook the turkey???   LOVE it!!

    (((hugs))) all

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited January 2013

    I fininshed today. So very happy to be done. Cried, of course. The nurses were so sweet and hugged me and wished me well.



    I don't know how I feel right now. The therapist in the support group at WeSPARK said it coud feel like this. Not gonna look at it too closely right now, just be glad it's over.



    I've blogged on how I feel, if you want to read.



    http://diaryofamidlifecrisis.blogspot.com/2013/01/and-its-done.html?m=1



    And congrats to those who also finished today and to you who are just a day or two behind. Let's look forward to returning to our lives.

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2013

    Lifeonitsside, Congratulations! It is mindnumbing to be ginished, to be sure. Kick back and enjoy your extra time each day!

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    Congrats to all who have finished or will finish this week...Treat yourself to something niceSmile you earned it!

    Cowpower sorry your son was so sick and that you had to deal with an emergency but glad that everything is ok

  • Shachar
    Shachar Member Posts: 229
    edited January 2013

    Cider, Cypher, Loving, Lifeonitsside,congrats!!! We definitely need a web party!

    Cowpower, so sorry about your son and the ICU stay. I wondered where you were. Flash cook, haha! Love it!!

    I have noticed that the areas that burned and peeled for me now seem to be immune from rads. Hmmm....it is good that I will not be a twice baked potato or refried beans!

    Rider, the tats do not really hurt. It is one stick with a lancet, like what they stick your finger with. I got seven and only one was a quick sting. I HAD seven. I cant find half of them anymore, haha.

    Congrats also to everyone who has completed round one! That was the hardest one for me.

  • SwgeeWi
    SwgeeWi Member Posts: 315
    edited January 2013

    Congrats to all of you who've finished.  I can imagine how emotional finishing is.  I hope you'll stay on the forum for a while to help those of us just starting.  I would miss the wit and humor I've come to love and look forward to each and every time I log in (sniff, sniff). I hope you're all celebrating in a big way!!

    Cowpower I'm so happy your son is okay.  Scary!! ((Hugs and prayers))

    Annette47, I'm so glad to have a rads buddy!:)

  • Mother4Life
    Mother4Life Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2013

    What do you do to deal with bad skin?

    This morning I got up... My skin has gone from red and itchy to I have big white patch of stuff... Looks like scab forming over a whole the size of a quarter....all on the underside of my large breast is raw. It is so raw and is very painful. I just want to cry. It was not like this yesterday. What should I do.. I do not see doctor until Friday. It hurts so much. I do not know if I can handle radiation with my breast like this this afternoon. Today is suppost to be treatment #14 of 30.

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited January 2013

    Loving, Cider, Cypher congrats on finishing up today.  Lifeonitsside congrats on finishing up yesterday.  We do need a party!  I would love some champagne!  I won't be far behind on finishing up on Monday.  Three more treatments to go!  My skin is so ready to be done with all of this.

    Cowpower- I'm glad your son is better.  It's so scary when your kids get sick like that.  It's okay for us to get sick, but not them.  And YAY for getting your sleeve!  It's so much less cumbersome than all those bandages.  I just got my night sleeve and feel like the Michelin man when I go to bed each night!  But it seems to be working!

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited January 2013

    cider8, cypher, Loving, Lifeonitsside,  Congrats to the four of you.  You made it!  It's Happy Dance time!!!!

                                            

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited January 2013

    Congrats to all those who finished their rad treatments! My process is a bit different than those of you doing external rad vs. the internal I am doing. I have found myself decompressing after round #1 a couple weeks ago, and also working to recover from some fatigue. Hope all of you can feel whatever you need to as you end these treatments, and begin to find your way back into some of your routines that you enjoy. Do something nice for yourself to celebrate!

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited January 2013

    Mother4Life- You need to go in and ask to see the doctor today.  Don't wait until Friday to see him.  In the very least they could let you see a nurse who could help you.  At least they could look at what you have and give you some advice on what to do or give you a prescription.  You don't HAVE to wait until Friday to see the doctor or speak to a nurse if you are having a problem.

  • Shachar
    Shachar Member Posts: 229
    edited January 2013

    Mother4life, I would call your rads center and tell them you need to see the doctor before treatment. You do not have to wait until doctor day. I was at 15 when I got raw and they gave me a 6 day break with silvadine. That stuff works great and quickly!

    Also going topless under the ceiling fan really helped. It will be okay. They should not continue on with raw, open skin. I had to keep my breast up off my ribs to get air to that area.

    Just finishes 20/25. Yippee!!!! The tech commented on how good my skin looked now. :-) My only issue is itching, so last night I slabbed some aquophor on over my dried aloe and that did the trick.

    Doctor day tomorrow for radonc and medonc. I look forward to seeing colonel sanders but not jim jones, hahaha.

    I am sorry for all of the women with stinky pits. My skin fried and peeled to where I have no pit hair or body odor. Eat your hearts out! Lol. Amazingly, though, I am feeling little stubble. No way! That was NOT in the contract!

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