December 2012 chemo group
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#2 has been delayed until early Feb. I had to have a TE removed on my formally radiated side. It has been quite a mess. Hospital for a week, Infection, tons of antibiotics, 20 lbs of fluid (now gone), and a blood transfusion.
Someone asked about their Mom's being delayed. They told me the first one still counts no matter how long we have to wait for #2. They want me to be healthy first.
I am moving in the right direction hopefully, but this is the worst I have ever felt in my life.
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SharonS - I am so sorry to hear you've had to go through all that in between TX 1 and TX 2!
I had to have a tissue expander replaced on my right side but thankfully hadn't started chemo yet but it did end up delaying chemo. I was on intravenous antibiotics as well but didn't have to be admitted but did have to have a home nurse come out every other day to replace IV lines.
Just yesterday the plastic surgeon said that it appeared my right MX site had rejected the Alloderm. Apparently there's a newish kind of Alloderm and he had never used this form of it until my initial surgery. Ironically enough, this newer form is suppose to be more sterile.
I hope you start feeling better soon! Being on all those antibiotics can be so exhausting (for me it was intravenous for 10 days followed by a round of bad tasting oral Clindamycin).
((hugs))
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Sharon - I am so sorry for all you are going through. I hope you start to feel better and stronger day by day so you can continue with your chemo. It sounds like you have been a real trooper through it all. The sooner we get through chemo, the sooner we will be finished!
Wishing you a good day today!
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Donster, if you only have 2 rounds of chemo left, I personally would say NO to the PICC. I don't find it bothersome for regular activities (like a lot of things we have to endure...you get used to it!), but it itches like crazy because your skin is sealed under a clear patch of "bandage" at all times. Realize that you have a tube coming outside your boda y that goes straight to your heart, so being super careful about infection is an understatement! You cannot get it wet. You should Saran Wrap and tape before every bath or shower, adds to skin irritation ( I got these plastic bag wraps that cinch up from online...but they don't work the best). Other things to know... It is not small. I have 2 small tubes but they have caps that are about 3/8 inch diameter and about 1-1/4 inch long, that requires that you wear a mesh sock at all times to hold it close to your body. You will need to wear at least 3/4 sleeve shirt to cover it up.
The PICC runs from your arm to just above your heart. So, there are very serious risks, including Deep Vein thrombosis, highly recommend you read up on that. My surgeon refused to do portocath, so I went with PICC because I had 16 infusions ahead of me....and I bruise really easy. At that time I was already black and blue on both arms just from all the testing.
If there is anything else you want to know, please ask!
Good luck,
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Dawn1008 Thanks for your input on the Picc line. I am hopeful that the nurse will find something to work with for the last 2 rounds. I am going in to see her next week to see if she can spot a couple of 'working' veins. She recommended lots of fluid and a heating pad before infusions. I am on medical leave from my job but I have 3 children so my life and house is a busy one. The picc line seemed like it could get in the way of everyday stuff, of course the bruising from the iv gets in the way now but it still seems simpler. I suppose nothing is simple in our lives right now why should this be??? Thanks for your input, I am sorry you have so much ahead of you.
Wishing you good days ahead.
SharonS so sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope you are healing well and doing well today. I have a crazy question, but how did you know your TE was infected? I have had mine since November and I noticed in the past few days that my size and shape have not changed, but the overall feeling of the expander seems different. It seems like I can actually feel not just the edges (tags) but the entire shape. I have wondered these past couple of days if this is indicative of a problem.
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Day three after third chemo and have the lightheaded dizzy thing happening. Have two real estate clients to meet and dinner at MIL's. Fortunately I have a real estate partner with me should I need to retreat. Also managed to pull a muscle or something in my hip while running yesterday. Ugh. Glad to have no obligations tomorrow so I can rest!
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Happy weekend everyone.
This is my "good" weekend between AC #2 and #3. I am happy to be free of the queasiness for sure but I notice that I have less energy and more residual achiness than I did on my good weekend between AC #1 & 2. I'm wondering if this is common? My MO told me that I would not bounce all the way back to my starting point before they hit me with AC again and I feel like I am really experiencing that. It makes me nervous, to be completely honest. The good days are so important to me. They are the hope that I comfort myself with when I am going through the gnarly bad days. I feel like I have 8 or 9 not great days (with 2 - 3 really gnarly bad days) to 5 or 6 good days each cycle. That ratio is harder than I expected.
I managed to take my girls to their Saturday activiites, fit in a nice long walk with an old college friend, and check out a new tasty restaurant for dinner out with my husband last night so I am definitely enjoying this weekend, just noticing that I don't have the energy level or ease in my body that I associate with feeling good. I guess I just have to adjust my expectations for what "good" feels like for the next few months.
So glad to be able to hear your experiences, and the undercurrent of determined resiliency and positivity on this thread. You all are a great help to me!
Enjoy this day.
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Well said Nichole on the undercurrent of determined resiliency and positivity on this thread - i take so much comfort from each of you - and sharing our stories helps so much.
Nichole - I just had my third round of chemo and it definitely hits me harder each time but I also think I am know the routine a bit better each time so I some how muddle through. My worse days are days 3-6 where I am in a total fog - i hate that feeling of being drugged up.
Sharon - I am so sorry that you are going through this! Lots of prayers for you! I hate to see you suffer and will pray that you move foward quickly. WE are all supporting you...hugs!
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Gwen, I have no idea how you are running! I get tired going up and down the stairs, my legs feel like Jello and I'm so weak.
Runnergirl, I'm with you on the fog. I'm day 5 out from TCH#3 and this round has definitely gotten the best of me. My joints are hurting so bad this time, I hadn't experienced that the first 2 rounds. My nausea came back worse this time too. Water tastes gross to me!
Nichole thank you for the encouragement! I'm glad we all have each other who understand completely what we're going through.
On a brighter note, today I bought magazine subscriptions to Runner's World, Yoga Journal, and Weight Watchers....all 3 for $16! Looking forward to being done with chemo and getting my mind and body whole again. -
Steiner, you're halfway through! Congratulations! On the other hand, I am so sorry you're feeling so weak
. I guess you'll be finished in March (?).
As always, you're an inspiration (i.e. planning out your plan of attack with Runner's World, Yoga Journal and Weight Watchers) - plus, I know you're working throughout this and have kids at home as well.
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For all of you who are still feeling weak and crappy from your chemo, hang in there and do whatever you have to to stay hydrated, rested and take care of those SE's.
I am 10 days post tx3 and finally my mouth does not feel gross and food tastes relatively normal! I have been trying to walk at least a mile everyday which I think has helped me keep my energy up. Of course a couple of days I was just too tired to walk. Next tx is the 29th, so that means I should have 10 days of enjoying food and life! Woohoo!
I go to the Look Good, Feel Better class tomorrow. I have no idea what it is all about, but hopefully I will glean some useful information.
Wishing you all a good day.
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Lee, I was just crying to my husband this morning about how overwhelmed I am having to worry about work and school on top of treatment! I have so much to do at work and it's hard staying caught up when missing so much. I told him I was jealous of those who didn't have to work while going through this and he gently replied that they're probably jealous of ME that I CAN work because they're worse off (or terminal). I'm grateful for his perspective. God knows it's one day at a time for me right now. It's been hard feeling like I'm neglecting my kids too. They're troopers and have been very helpful. I have one chemo treatment left on Feb 5, then Herceptin thru the rest of the year.
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Bren, I'm going to the LGFB class on the 28th. Can't wait! You'll have to give us an idea of what to look forward to.
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Steiner - you are an inspiration to us all ! Great deal on the magazines too - where did you find that ?
Going to watch the 9er game and then out for a long walk with GF . It's a sunny nice day here - but this is my low point on the TC - day 4 ! Can't seem to drink enough fluids but water tastes awful so drinking lots of low sugar juice and gatorade . The NUNN electrolyte tablets u add to water are rally great - not sugary at all! I got mine at the bike shop I go too but they are probably available online . Makes water more tolerable . But are too many electrolyte drinks bad for u ?
Sharon - so sorry to hear about your complications with the te's - I will be praying for a quick recovery for u so u can get to the finish line with all of us quickly !!!
Sandy -
I went to LGFB class before starting chemo. I hope your experiences are as pleasant as mine was.
There were 4 of us in the class (all BC warriors). The cosmetologist had been teaching this class since 1989. She gave us each a nice bag with cleanser, moisturizer, foundation, lipstick, mascara, eyeliner, eyebrow pencil, powder, and sponges. She showed us how to apply makeup, how to tie scarves, take care of wigs, etc.
when we left we got to pick out a hat to take, and were each given a beautiful vase full of fresh cut flowers donated by a local florist.
The class was friendly, relaxing, and informative. I really enjoyed. I hope you do too.
Blessings
Paula -
Hi, all! I am so new here. I started my TAC chemo the end of November, so this feels like the right place for me. I will be going in for #4 this coming Thursday. So far, I feel so very lucky, almost to the point of feeling guilty. I have had no nauseau at all. I am experiencing memory issues along with exhaustion, but all in all, I am going very well. I only hope that #4, 5 and 6 are the same. I'm very happy to find this site. After reading several boards, I see that this is where the experience is. It's amazing how a lot of people you come in contact with really think the "get it", but I've learned as I'm sure you all have, no one "gets it" unless they've gone or are going through it. Now, i just hope I can find my way back tot his thread!!!
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grannyj3, welcome and best wishes for your 4th treatment! I've saved this thread as one of my "favorite topics" so I can easily get back to it.
Sandra, those magazines came through a deal from discountmags.com, using promo code SLICKDEALS. http://slickdeals.net/f/5806522-Magazine-Subscriptions-Runner-s-World-6-year-Yoga-Journal-5-year I've been wanting to get into yoga so I thought reading up on it at home might help before I join a class -
Steiner, take heart! I am so jealous that you are making this work and sustaining "normal" life. I am off work and I have my stepmom staying with me to help keep my 7 yr old on his normal daily routine. So you should be so proud of yourself. I know it's hard as hell, but you are doing it and making it work.
You are doing great!
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Bren 58, Runnergirl2, Nichole, Sandra 60 - thanks for the encouragement. Today is better. Just took my first walk outside in 2 weeks, very short but a start.
Dunster I had a small scab since surgery. When my whites dropped the scab went crazy along with redness
Lee A The PS said something about the alloderm and she is researching it. But she has only seen issues with smokers. She is also researching implants after rads. But my radiation was pretty uneventful no blisters, etc and she thought my skin would do great.
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Sharon, I'm glad today has been better for you. Sorry you're dealing with infection on top of it all.
Dawn, I've definitely been counting it a blessing to have help from my mom! (and stepdad, neighbors, friends, church, coworkers, the list goes on!) I've always been so independent and hated asking for help, but this has changed all of that! I'm so glad your stepmom has been able to help take care of you and your son. My kids are 7 & 8, same as your son, this age is good in that they can do a lot for themselves while we are feeling crummy. For example, pour themselves a bowl of cereal while mommy sleeps late.
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Steiner - I forgot all about school on top of everything else! And I'm glad to hear you're on the four treatment plan for the TC part of it. I didn't realize there was a four treatment version.
Grannyj3 - Excellent news about the lack of nausea! Wishing you continued success with your upcoming treatments. Regarding finding your way back - I do the same as Steiner (mark the topic as a favorite at the link at the top of the page).
Sharon - Glad you were able to get out and walk today. I love walking outdoors. Lately (i.e. since chemo) we've been driving the car to a flatter part of our neighborhood and taking off in different directions from there. Other times we walk the outdoor track at the YMCA.
Paula - Based on what you've written I'm going to think about attending the LGFB class at the Disney Cancer Center.
Bren58 - Glad to hear you're entering the back to normal part of your cycle!
Sandra - I bought some of the NUUN tablets today. I have a bottle of Arrowhead with the Tangerine Lime added within reach right now. I'm wondering if it would be overkill to add the tablets to Trader Joe's electrolyte enhanced water.
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I'm experiencing the sore scalp sensation today as well as last night. I did a search and found an older post here at BCO wherein someone described it as feeling like she had been hit with a baseball bat. It's strange that one spot is more uncomfortable than other areas. Did anyone else experience that? I'm almost afraid to take a shower in the morning because I know the sore scalp is a precursor to the inevitable...
Oh, and popcorn. It's definitely going to have to be scratched off the food list until chemo ends. Cie la vie. Hopefully this sudden intolerance won't be permanent.
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LeeA yes, sore patches!
Yes everyone work and school. I'm a teacher so can I say I do both!? I'm planning a week off after each one but my boss has been great and given me only morning classes till April, so if I can go I will.
But school is still out for summer this week so I can relax in peace.
AC number two today. They put it in my hand and it popped the vein and my hand got all fat full of saline that was leaking out of the vein. Aargh! I looked at the people with ports and felt a bit jealous, but not for long, the ports are awful too. She went in the side of my wrist and it was fine.
Nicole I see your path was similar to mine, did you get ki67 tested? I'm booked in for a second opinion with a more aggressive oncologist so I may soon be adding a T to my signature.
Kia kaha warrior wahines (stay strong warrior women)
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Hi ladies!
I guess I posted this a bit late but I started chemo on Dec. 26 and I will have my 3rd treatment this Wednesday. It will be a total of 8 rounds every 2 weeks. As for the side effects I guess I can't complain, so far I feel a bit nauseous on the first day and then tired during the first week after treatment but after that I feel ok
Having no hair is a whole new experience but so comfortable when taking a shower!
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LeeA - I know that sore head feeling. My hair started falling out when I was back in the hospital. We got home late Fri afternoon, but as soon as I got going Sat morning I had my DH cut and buzz my hair. That dead hair hanging makes your scalp hurt. Then every time I took a shower part of the buzz would fall out. DH would say, you are ruining my good haircut, do you want me to fix it? The few hairs left on my crown might have to go when he gets home tonight.
Kiwi kid - glad you are getting another one in the books! I wish you few SE. I loved my port in 2008 and got one again. So glad I had it for my week in the hospital. I don't think my veins in my one available arm would have made it. Love your sign off, yes we will fight as warriors and WIN! -
Welcome Jasmin55 - glad you found us!
What I wouldn't give to find something satisfying to eat! Day four and I think this is my worse day in the chemo cycle. Am glad to be home sporting my turban and working on taxes. I just wish I could find something delicious. I know I need to keep hydrated but water has taken on the gross taste. Am working on V8fusion with seltzer but have barely touched it.
I found my scalp hurt when I first lost the hair and had it buzzed cut. Now it's just a softer light colored peach fuzz that no longer hurts. You ladies struggling with it should start feeling better soon.
For what it's worth... I love my baby smooth legs! Happy MLK day ladies!
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kiwikid I'm pretty sure I did not get ki67 tested, since I don't know what that is??? When I met with my oncologist to decide about treatment, we reviewed the pathology from my tumor and I decided I wanted chemo because 1) it was stage 2 and right on the border between grade 1 & grade 2, and (2) the tumor had established multiple satellite nodules, which is generally worrisome. My nodes were clear but the multiple nodules was not a good sign. My oncologist was willing to do the oncotype testing but it is expensive and he thought it highly unlikely I would come out with a low score. He thought it much more likely I would get a medium (indeterminate) or high score. I am someone who tries to make decisions that minimize unnecessary costs and since my mind was made up about chemo based on the knowledge about my tumor, I chose not to do the oncotype testing.
FriendGwen I hear you about the baby smooth legs! I was joking with my husband last night that we have had many phases in our marriage, but this is the phase when he gets to be intimate with a seal. No hair anywhere! (Actually the eyebrows are thinned but hanging on, thank God!)
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Bahaha Nicole, intimate with a seal. We have seals here and they are smooth but they smell so bad, hopefully your husband has never been within 100m of a real seal, so he won't know!
Thanks for your info. Yes I had a grade 1, the score was only 4, but my proliferation rate graded by ki67 was 18% which is considered int/high depending on who you ask. Tumor was only 1.8 but it had travelled, a micromet to a node .6mm. The RO said that the travelling is explained by the ki67, as low grades don't usually behave like that. So I'm not sure if Grade 1 is an accurate identification of the tumor I HAD. Yes the oncotype here is not done, but the ki67 is one of the tests done within that to make it up.
Can a satellite nodule be dcis? I had that about 4cm away in the margins!
Round two day two today, worst se so far SORE FEET! I'm going to get some ugly crocs to hopefully let me stand for longer.
Kia kaha
Kiwi kid -
FriendGwen - last round the only thing I ate was buttered noodles and apples - throwing it out there in case it sounds good to you. I do wonder if it will be the same thing for round 3 (1/2 mark...yippie) scheduled for next week.
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LeeA, my MO gave me the choice between 4 & 6 TCH treatments. She said 6 would be better if I can tolerate it but 4 is enough since my LN were clear, so I chose 4. I know there have been studies on 4 vs 6 TCH w/node negative BC which I saw when I was researching my options, I just can't find the results right now.
Day 7 after 3rd round and I'm finally starting to pick up. Only had to take Phenergan once today for nausea. Still don't want to drink a lot, which I know is necessary to get out of the funk, so I've been drinking lots of tea with lemon and Gatorade (plain water still sounds gross to me!) All of my joints are ACHING so bad! I had to take Hydrocodone to take the edge off enough to fall asleep last night. A new SE I will definitely be sharing with my MO tomorrow when I go in for my Herceptin infusion.
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Welcome Jasmin! Glad your SE's have been mild for you.
Gwen - I hate those days when everything tastes bad, especailly water. I think I just go from one thing to another trying to find something that doesn't taste gross.
Nicole - you are too funny with the seal comment!!!! I love my smooth legs too, by the way. I even took the razor out of the shower along with all the hair products.
Steiner - interesting about the 4 vs 6 TC treatments. I was not given the option, but since they would not schedule me for anything past tx4 which is next week, I think I might be on the 4tx cycle. I guess I will find out next week. I would be thrilled if that is the last one!
The Look Good, Feel Better class was great. Came home with a bag of free makeup and the lady that does the class is also a stylist who has been doing wigs for 40 years. When I told her I was thinking about getting the bangs trimmed, she looked at it and described exactly what I wanted done before I even told her what I wanted it to look like. She told me to make an appt and she would trim them for free! So Saturday I get a bang trim. So excited that they will not be falling in my eyes all the time.
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