January 2013 chemo group

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  • SherylB
    SherylB Member Posts: 450
    edited January 2013

    Skimommi, You said:

    And at one point I asked them all what they thought everyone's reaction in the bar would be if I just ripped off my wig. So I did! And they all laughed and hugged me and said the look on my face changed immediately from despair to relief.

    I really liked the idea of the expression of relief. My hair hasnt' come out yet but I did get the short hair cut before chemo. I am kinda looking forward to the baldness because it represents progress in the "Death to Cancer" journey. I have no modesty so I can bet that I will go au natural at some point. I absolutely won't wear a wig, I sweat during ice storms, got lots of hats and cute surgical caps.

    The expression of relief that your friends described resonates with me. I believe for me that going bald and letting all see it will be a way of honoring myself. Having said that I have never felt like a beautiful, sexy, feminine woman. I am attractive but always prided myself more on my mind. Reasons for lack of sexy feminine feelings took me years in therapy to identify. Anyway long story, but for some reason this experience is making me feel more like a woman.   Don't worry guys I have a appt. next week with my psychologist and psychiatrist. LOL.

    Love to all,

    Sheryl

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Sheryl, that's me as of Friday evening.  Note: it's in black and white.  There's a reason for that!  (bad skin)

  • Lauren15
    Lauren15 Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2013

    I will catch up with all of you later.  For now I need your help.  I'm not sure if I can eat something.  I have a large bag of sprouted rice and quinoa blen (organic) from Costco that I like.  Now I'm not sure if I can eat anything that says sprouted . . . and the audience says . . . Help!  I have company coming in a few minutes (DH's surprise) and need to know whether I can eat it or not.

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Lauren, I've eaten quinoa since chemo but it's always cooked.  I'm not sure of the product you're describing but I'm assuming the quinoa has been cooked.  Will you be heating it or is it a cold/pre-prepared dish? 

    FWIW - I had a small lettuce salad that came with my lunch at  Middle Eastern restaurant the other day.  

    A few days before I had asked my MO about salads and he said not to worry about it so I lived dangerously and and ate it because the salad dressing was so good.  

    Also, FWIW, I guess I'm neutropenic (1.9 wbc a week and a half ago - 1.8 wbc a few days ago) and he was well aware of this when he said not to worry about it (this was on the 1.8 day).  Of note - he also examined my mouth and said since there were no mouth sores it would be okay to eat salads.  Nonetheless, I'm still nervous about doing it.  

    That probably doesn't help too much but I thought I'd throw it all out there.  And happy birthday (I'm assuming, since you said it was a surprise) to your hubby! 

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited April 2014

    Hi Everyone,

    You can find something safe for your lips, by cross referencing on the EWG Safe Cosmetics Website:

    http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/

    For those of you looking for organic skin care lotion, face lotion and shampoo, I order only from NurtureMyBody.com  All of their items have a rating of 0 (the best) on EWG's site.

    Also, I think lemons/limes and acidic items were suspected of aggravating skin and lips during chemo treatment.  

    There is a book my insurance sent me which has food and recipes grouped to different conditions you might experience during chemo, and it also has a table/checklist for what foods are good for what things, etc.  It is called:  Eating Well Through Cancer ... I recommend it to everyone.  It has tips in it, and is loaded with information.  

    Have a great day and wishing everyone a great week!

    - Chemo Reference Books, Health and Nutrition Books, Organic Products, Safe Cosmetics Database Website

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited January 2013

    To help soothe lips and mouth while also increasing fluids, my Onc recommended Pediolyle Frozen Flavored Pops.  They really taste ok, and it's soothing and they are full of electrolytes. WalMart or Walgreens.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    I hate chemo fog! It usually doesn't hit until about Day 6. It's 3 days early. I had to leave church early because it was so bad. My vision is effected, and my head feels heavy, so that's its hard to hold it up. I also feel a bit faint when I stand for more than a few minutes. I hope since it came early, it will be gone early.



    On a good note, my sweet DH came home from church and made me pancakes for lunch. God bless him.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Paula, I'm so sorry to hear you're going through all that.  The vision changes must be very scary.  How many more ACs do you have in front of you?   

    Since my tissue expander infection (and a sore throat and cold that followed on its heels) I've been skipping mass with my husband on Sunday evenings.  I really like going to mass but one night just prior to chemo I had one of those awful coughing jags that won't abate without a sip of water and I felt trapped sitting there (i.e. borderline panic-attack type of trapped).  

    So, one night as my husband was leaving for mass I started flipping through channels and started watching Joel Osteen and I really like him.  Occasionally I re-watch the sermon/homily online a few days later.  I don't even know what denomination he's a part of but I like his delivery and for now - it helps keep my spirits up.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Lee~I have one more AC on feb. 8, then I get 12 weekly taxol. The vision thing is just a bit of fuzziness. I can still see well enough to watch TV or get on line. It's kind of just a little unfocused at a distance, and only lasts a day or so.



    I believe Joel Osteen is non-denominational. That's the kind of church I go to. I like Joel too.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • honeybair
    honeybair Member Posts: 746
    edited January 2013

    Has anyone, experienced debilitating constipation directly following chemo?  If so, how do you handle the misery and depair that goes along with this?  I have used MOM and stewed prunes as well as stool softeners and finally got relief after three miserable days. I dread this side effect as much as as anything.  Aches and pains I am learning to accept and tolerate, also those crazy hot flashes that are waking me up.  Today has been one tired day for me, but I did enjoy attending my church today where I was met with so much love and support.

    Blessings and Hugs

  • kingboo
    kingboo Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2013

    Just joined the group,  I will have my first chemo Jan. 31. Scared and nervous.  The postings from you all helped calm my nerves. 

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited January 2013

    My dad suggested Fibercon or Metamucil. I took 1 colace each day and that was not enough. I also took some MOM and that didn't work either. So next go around I am going to try 2 colace for the few days following TX. And I will try the fibercon or metamucil too. It was bad for a few days and I don't want to go through that again.

    I had the vision thing happen too. It was like I just couldn't focus on the screen or on paper. It didn't last very long maybe a day or so. I thought I was just hammered from all the meds...

    Trying to remember all the things that didn't work the last time and all the suggestions I've recieved so when I hit happy hour this friday I am prepared.

    We buzzed my head earlier. I changed my photo. Thank god I have a round head with no weird bumps or lumps...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Debbie~Girl, you really ROCK THAT DOO!



    honeybair~The constipation is from the anti-nausea meds. I get around that by taking a generic stool softener starting the day before chemo. On chemo day I take it twice a day, and if need be, I up it to 3 times daily. I only need to do that for a few days, but I find it helps to continue with 1 a day even on my good days.

    Once constipation gets you it's harder to get rid of. So, get ahead of it.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Fighter69
    Fighter69 Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2013

    Hi all ,

    Got the results of the scans and they were good . Lymph nodes are a bit swollen but other than that I am fine. New onc doc is very patient and sweet as he explained everything that my test results had to show.

    I have been restaged as having stage 3 IBC grade 2 her2 positive . So I find that I am not tripple negetive as the first doc said. My treatment plan is : Chemo first for 4-6 months ,surgery, radiation and Taxol . I beleive it is AC chemo , so much information  was given my head is swimming still. Waiting to be scheduled for port placement and I have my chemo class this Friday. 

    Best of luck to everyone and hang in there.

    Fighter

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Honeybair I am with Paula on the stool softener pills - take a few the day before , day of and a couple,of says after and it should help !



    Kingboo - sorry to have to find you here but we can all help ! It is just a process you have to go through so think about taking steps - it will help .

  • gd2shuz
    gd2shuz Member Posts: 45
    edited January 2013

    Soteria, I am glad I read your post.  First off, when I looked at the wig websites I went into shock at some of the prices. Anyway, I found it overwhelming to try and figure out whether to order one on line, go to a wig shop, or what. I don't have a lot of GFs that can go with me to a wig shop so I'd be choosing on my own and don't know if I trust my own opinion! I feel like I want to go hairless with a scarf/head cover, and thought maybe I was weird for feeling that way. Reading your post made me feel less tense, thank you for that.

    Oh my gosh I just went back up to see other posts before I send this, and I see a lot of us feel weird about our wigs! I think I'm going to just go with the baldie scarf look.  

    Kiwikid, I really have no pain or sensation at all where my breasts were, and when I am not looking at my self or my shirt, I have the same feeling as I did when I had them there.  But, they did keep me warm lol.  I notice that a breeze across my chest chills me now, probably because there are vital organs under there that were protected under 5 pounds of fat before.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Gd2shuz~I really like the t-shirt wrap. I wore one to church last week, and got so many compliments. Everyone was surprised to know it was one of my DH's t-shirts.

    I'm posting the video. If there are 2 pictures, watch the one with the grey t-shirt. She is an actual cancer patient.

    You may notice her sticking out her tongue and licking her lips. I think she has dry mouth from chemo. She appears to maybe have chemo fog too.



    I prefer to wear the wrap plain without a scarf. You can pick up tees at the thrift stores for $.99. My DH said, he's hiding all his. Lol



    http://search.yahoo.com/tablet/s?p=YouTube+video+for+chemo+tshirt+wrap&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701



  • hope49
    hope49 Member Posts: 370
    edited January 2013

    Sorry you have to join us kingboo, but you've found a wonderful group of allies to help you get through it, and the posts are loaded with great tips. It is scary before that first round because you just don't know what to expect, but I can tell you it's totally doable and you're stronger than you think! We're here for you :)



    LeeA, I have also gone to 'shut-in' mode for church and taping Joel Osteen...he's so uplifting. I'm also reading 2 of his books to keep the positive flowing!



    Skigirl, you look great! You're right - you do have a great shaped head :) before you know it, we'll be looking at your 'after' picture!!!



    Fighter, glad to hear your scans were good! Good luck this week.



    Paula, I hope you are feeling better!



    Hugs and prayers to all for a great week ahead!!!

  • Amrdbit
    Amrdbit Member Posts: 114
    edited January 2013

    Hey Everyone, 

    Just checking in. Had pancakes for dinner and am now watching the Patriots game. (They'd better get their act together or I know a lot of people who are going to be very unhappy Pat's fans. LOL) I made a very yummy juice today that was a new one for me. It's very green and cool and detoxing. (It will be totally yummy during the summer while out by the pool, but.... it was almost 70 here today, so.... it totally worked. 1 lime, 1 lemon, 1 green apple, 1 large cucumber, 1 handful basil, 1 handful mint, 2 huge handfuls spinach, a little ginger to taste. The boys liked it as well. Im going to make more tomorrow. 

    Approx 3 more days till I know if my cold caps are working. I so remember going bald the first time around, 18 years ago when I went through chemo for Hodgkins. I was wicked young, 27 and it was SO traumatic. (It is this time too at 45, but..... sigh) I never lost my eyebrows or eye lashes last time, but all the rest of it was gone.... up top and down below. I did kind of dig not having to shave my legs all summer tough. (Always looking for the positive... even if it's a tiny positive) Crossing my fingers that the Cold caps work for me. Sigh. I'll keep you posted. 

    I did just find out that one of my best friends (weve been friends since middle school) is flying down for my next chemo treatment. She lives on Cape Cod, and has never been to Dallas, so I'm wicked exceited for her to come down here. I wish it was for a different reason, and that we'd be able to go out and about and do all kind of fun stuff, but.... since that's not the case, I'm so glad she will be here to keep me compamny while I  saddle up to the cocktail bar and then also to hang out with me for 5 days afterward. :)

    Well.... jsut checking in on everyone. Hope y'all have had a wonderful and hydrated Sunday!! Hugs, Deb

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Skigirl, I love your new avatar and you do have a lovely shaped head!  

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    hope49, watching television ministry is a whole new ballgame for me.  Just now I watched the minister who follows Joel Osteen and was host to a motivational speaker/guest (and perhaps minister?) who was born without limbs.  His name is Nick Vujicic (I had never heard of him before but then again, I typically don't watch anything other than CNN).  He was very inspiring and at the same time, quite humorous.  

    kingboo, I'm sorry you have to join us (for the obvious reasons, i.e. no one wants to be in this situation) but since it is what it is - you're in the right place!  There's so much support and camaraderie on this thread as well as so many others.  Welcome!

    Re: CONSTIPATION -

    TonLee (Triple Positive Thread) has recommended and swears by Magnesium Oxide -

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/80/topic/764183?page=483#post_3374577 

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/80/topic/764183?page=389#post_3279538

    I haven't had it yet but if it happens - I'm going to pick up a bottle of the MO. 

  • ziffy321
    ziffy321 Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2013

    Honeybair--sorry about your constipation.  I have had the opposite problem: very loose stools since chemo!  Thank God I have been at home each time they attacked!

  • ziffy321
    ziffy321 Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2013

    Got the super-short pixie cut Saturday!  I hope to enjoy it for a couple of weeks before it falls out.  At a party last night, I told everybody I had seen "Les Mis" and that I just had to have the Anne Hathaway look.  Smile

  • SeattleMama
    SeattleMama Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2013

    Paula, Sandra, LeeA - thanx for tips on taking care of being backed up. I HATE IT. and I know most americans walk around like this and think its normal. Well, its NOT. I feel like a rollie pollie.  and ZIFFY I'm sure its not easy beign the polar opposite either.  Hope we all get relief.

    Amrdbit - yummmmmmminess - I'm going to have to make that smoothie.  {drooling}

    giggle Ziffy @ les mis.......I bet you look better than ann ;)

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Charlize Theron is sporting a buzz cut these days - 

    Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2251379/Charlize-Theron-shows-salt-pepper-buzz-cut-lunches-gal-pal.html

    Apparently it's for her upcoming role in the new Mad Max film. 

  • Oliverhog
    Oliverhog Member Posts: 74
    edited January 2013

    When I went throught 8 months of chemo for Hodgkin's in 1987, I ended up losing my hair from the top down.  I can remember seeing what seemed like hundreds of strands stuck to my sweater.  I ran my fingers through my hair and each time, twenty or thirty strands came out.  I did it over and over and over and each time I became more and more angry to the point that I just wanted to rip my hair out.  I didn't.  I went home that night and stood in the bathtub in front of the mirror.  I tipped my head to the right and cut the hair that swung over my shoulder to about chin length.  I tipped my head to the left and cut that side of my hair.  I went back to work the next day and the delivery man complimented me on my hairstyle.  I was so self-conscious I didn't know if he was complimenting or joking.  I went out of town for the weekend and the hair continued to fall out.  I ended up buying a wig.  Ugh.  I hated that thing.

    I have a smallish head and have never really had that much hair.  They don't sell wigs that make you look like you don't have that much hair.  I couldn't find anything even remotely close to my plain style.  I ended up going with a wig that was similar to my color and sort of like a cross between a shag and Toni from the Captain and Tennille.  I wore it to work the next work day.  Here comes the delivery man again.  He compliments my hair.  Again.  Now, I'm getting all paranoid.  After that, I ended up having really low blood counts with a fever and had to be hospitalized for about a month.  Never wore the thing again.  My hair started growing back while I was in the hospital.  

    I continued to have chemo treatments but was switched to an experimental protocol for the remaining 4 1/2 treatments.  I don't know why my hair started to grow back during the chemo.  It came back quite curly and very dark and shiny.  When I'd look at the pieces of hair as they'd fall out naturally I noticed the hair looked striped.  The hair that was growing during the time chemo was doing it's thing was thin.  As I recovered during each cycle the hair shaft was thicker.  So, I had these alternating thick and thin bands of growth on each hair. 

    I've pretty much stayed in my house with the exception of my multiple trips to the hospital for the numerous doctors' appointments, treatment and surgery since I was diagnosed in October while I was in the hospital being treated for pneumonia and a few trips to the adoration chapel to recite the rosary.  

    As for the reconstruction issue, I have always been small busted.  I didn't like being a small B on a good day, but I sure liked the way my breasts looked and I liked the way my body looked with my breasts still attached to it.  I am most likely going to have a prophylactic mastectomy on the left.  I'd really like to be reconstructed.  What bothers me though is the lack of feeling.  Can anyone feel any sensations on their chests anymore, either with or without reconstruction?  My mastectomy scar itches like H E double toothpicks.  So does my dang underarm where the axillary node dissection scar is.  I scratch and scratch and can't get any relief because interestingly enough, while my mastectomy area is numb, I can somehow manage to feel the sensation of an itch through the numbness.  I have to put pressure on the area to get relief.  Am I the only one scratching and digging under my arm?  And, does anyone know if I can ever sleep on my right side again?  I thought I read in one of the many pieces of literature that we should never sleep on the side that's had the axillary node dissection.

    As for the constipation issue, I was REALLY concerned about that one.  I gave myself a hiatal hernia last year trying to muscle my way through constipation and wasn't allowed to eat or drink anything other than clear fluids and broths.  I've been taking a chewable probiotic for a couple of months.  Also, I take a magnesium, calcium, zinc, D3 supplement.  I haven't had constipation or diarrhea.  I haven't even had to take my GERD meds every day.  HOWEVER, the mouth thing for me HAS been a problem.  My mouth feels like it normally feels after I brush my teeth with a really strong mint toothpaste.  Kind of like a burning numbish feeling.  My husband made homemade chili last night and all I could taste was spice.  Nothing else.  He made this delicious smelling linguini with shrimp and scallops in an herbed garlic butter sauce.  I could hardly taste it.  Thank God for my husband.  Thank God for all of you who are so willing to share your stories and tips and things that make me laugh.  I don't think I'd be able to make it through this without you all.

    Skimommy, you look adorable.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    forest great idea about the hair. I am going to retrieve and throw DH and DGF's out there today.

    Paula, did they trim the wig for you when you bought it? It makes a huge difference!! She styled it for me, but the cap still seems too "high". It literally feels like helmet head. And who was it that talked about it being "creepy"? Yes, exactly! I have a picture from our outing, before I pulled off the wig that really shows the creepiness.

    watta, you have explained what we are all feeling so well. THAT is the part which no one else truly "gets". When they say, and sorry I am one of them that will say it too, it is just a blip. Yes, the hair thing is just a blip, the "c" though isn't. But, we still have to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps and look forward with fierce determination to enjoy and live for NOW.  ;)  The BC sisters will have those moments of taking a brief look over our shoulders to watch the shadow, but it has to be just that - brief. Otherwise it will consume you and you can't let that happen.

    Now that the hair is gone it really doesn't feel like such a big deal! Yesterday being out and about with a buff and hat I didn't feel one bit conspicuous. I never thought in a million years I would be able to even go bald around my family and here in the house - like I would feel like I was walking around naked and that just couldn't happen. But I have been sporting it around my friends and a couple neighbors like no big deal. My avatar is me on the left, DH and DGF that also shaved their heads in my honor. I am one that always likes to fly under the radar. Being Aquarius I am one of the most laid back, easy going people you will ever know. Innocent Hence why my GF's got such a kick out of me pulling my wig off in the bar. They never would have bet a million bucks on that happening, which makes it all the better. 

    Ladies you bring up a great point to kiwikid. The loss of sensation in the breast has been the hardest part. I thought it was the hairloss, until loosing the hair. Those will never be the same! I also contemplated the nipple sparing mx, but PS and surgeon said most than likely the nipples would not look right. Plus, as with everything else along this journey, the more you keep the higher your percentage for recurrence when you are high risk like me. Geez, can I be high risk on betting the odds in Vegas? Might need to give that more of a try too. I'm already a gambling girl with the lotto tickets. LOL

  • SherylB
    SherylB Member Posts: 450
    edited January 2013

    honeybair,

    I did!! It was worse than anything I have been through yet. I am taking daily stool softners, drinking a gal of fluid a day +. I don't know what else to do have increased fiber. I took laxatives and the only thing I haven't done is suppositories and enemas to get at from other end. Sorry for others who think this is TMI but if one is being bothered by something then so are others so I feel we need to share if we have a problem so we can find a solution.

    sheryl

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Sheryl be sure to get moisture wicking caps if you are hot all the time. The first night I tried sleeping in one of the cotton turbans and couldn't stand it. But, I also can't stand to sleep in socks. So I guess I feel the same on top as on bottom. LOL

    honeybair are you hydrating enough? Along with the other great tips try grape juice and try eating parsley. This was posted earlier, but parsley has been shown to have great effects on a lot of issues, constipation being one.

    gd2shuz you might be better off choosing the wig on your own. It was so overwhelming for me to have all my GF's there. And it isn't that I felt pressured into the wig I chose, but think it may have been easier to walk away and try more shops if I were on my own. The beautician even reiterated that this decision has to be all about you and what you feel comfortable in. Others can give their opinion, but you are the one that has to look in the mirror and recognize yourself. I bought my wig because everyone kept saying it looked just like my hair, but I hate it and don't feel like myself.

    kingboo, Ciao Bella! This whole process is so scary from the outside looking in, but it is so much easier once the anticipation and unknown are faced. Hang tough!

    Thanks oliverhog!

    Ziffy I second Seattlemama - bet you look better than Ann.

  • ziffy321
    ziffy321 Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2013

    Eating fresh parsley or any fresh greens -- is that an option for us when we have neutropenia (have to avoid fresh fruits and veggies)?  Would the dried version be OK?

    Also, I have the book "Eating Well Through Cancer," but some of the recipes put a lot of emphasis on getting our vitamin C, which I understand is not a good idea for us when we are going through chemo. 

  • macyhen111
    macyhen111 Member Posts: 754
    edited January 2013

    My onc told me no fresh fruits, veggies, undercooked meat etc. because of the high risk for bacteria. I had awful diarrhea after eating fresh oranges. Now I crave fresh fruits and veggies.

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