December 2012 chemo group

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  • Dawn1008
    Dawn1008 Member Posts: 31
    edited January 2013

    Donster, Paula is right....it's chemo brain. Welcome to the club! I have a PICC line. What would you like to know? Feel free to ask anything.





    Paula, I so feel your pain about the peeing....I swear I must have been every 1/2 hour last night!



    Kiwi, please do try the Pepcid AC, even though you may not think you are having acid issues, that's what that feeling like you have food caught in the back of your throat is! I had it too! I also lost my voice for 4 weeks to the acid and did not think I was having acid problems either. Then I went to a throat Dr and he told me otherwise! Give it a try....



    Dawn

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    ,Hi Donster - we are glad u found us as well !



    I am actually doing the same treatment as u TC and am on round 2 and half way done too I am in the infusion room right now in fact



    Well I do not know about the picc line - but I had heard it was a good alternative so I would not worry too much !



    I am sorry your dizzy this time around -did not happen to me last time but I did get agitated and irritable from the steroids leaving after a couple of days . I did like the magic mouthwash as well but I like the biotene mouthwash and spray as well !!



    Just found out my white and red cells are normal - so no neupogen shots - yippee !!!

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited January 2013

    Back from chemo and the grocery store and bouncing off the walls from steroids. It's like nesting when you are getting ready to have a baby. Only I'm gearing up to take care of baby Gwen once she crashes! I tried to stock up on any foods that somehow seemed tolerable last time. Here's hoping I guessed right. Now off to start with the baking soda rinse.

  • kiwikid
    kiwikid Member Posts: 204
    edited January 2013

    Thanks Dawn, I will start my losec tonight.



    I'm preparing for chemo now, going back in two days for round 2. My partner has had to go away for work for two weeks so I'm going to be staying with my parents. Unfortunately mum has the flu and dad has to move his mum into a rest home this weekend, and we have mums 60th birthday champagne brunch. I hope she is well by then or I won't want to go!



    On that, I have had two visitors this week who have only told me they were sick (one even used the word toxic) when they arrived at my house! I'd prefer people told me first and let me decide rather than decide on my behalf that they aren't catchy. Hmmm



    I'm comfortable saying no hugs now, but no sick visitors should really go without saying!



    Wishing you all well.



    Xx kk

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited January 2013

    Kiwi, that is really rude of people not to tell you they are sick before they come! Clearly they do not understand your compromised immune system. Hopefully the rest of your visitors will be more considerate!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    I'm off to AC #3. After fighting the crud all last week, I'm praying my counts have rebounded so I can wave at this Beast in my rearview mirror.

    I'm going to do my utmost to stay hydrated this go round. Hoping it will lessen Foggy Wednsday.



    Blessings Sisters

    Paula

  • Dawn1008
    Dawn1008 Member Posts: 31
    edited January 2013

    Kiwi, wow! Can't believe people have come to you sick. But seems everyone has the flu this year, so I always ask if they are feeling good before they come! Good luck with the acid reducers! Hugs, D

  • donster
    donster Member Posts: 39
    edited January 2013

    Good morning, 

    I was new to the forum yesterday and really appreciate all of the responses.  

    Kiwi I sent out an email to all of my friends before chemo that they were essentially banned from visiting. I know everyone means well and they want to help take care of us, but if we get sick, that delays chemo and I know for myself, I just want to get through the chemo and move on to rads.  I say don't be bashful.  Most people don't know the risks.

    Paula, good luck with your AC today.  Yes stay hydrated.  Make those veins plump!!!  

    Dawn, I want to know everything about the Picc line.  Do you find it bothersome or cumbersome around the house?  Is it difficult to change the dressing or flush it?  I have 2 rounds of chemo left, is it worth it?  Thanks for sharing. 

    Thinking about everyone and hoping for good days all around.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    I'm in the chemo room, which in my case is a private hospital type room. I'm sitting up in the bed getting the Emend.

    I was so excited that my counts are so good. I had a really bad cold last week that hit during my nadir period, so I got a triple whammy. I had prayed that because I fought it on my own, it would cause my WBC to rebound. It ended up being higher than before my first chemo. Yea!!!



    How are all of you Sisters today?



    Blessings

    Paula

  • beckstar18
    beckstar18 Member Posts: 253
    edited January 2013

    Feeling poopy today.  Day 3 post chemo #3.  My SE are stronger and hit faster this time than the first 2 rounds.  Just waiting for the feelings of nausea, fogginess, and exhaustion to all go away.  Thinking of all my chemo sisters today!

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited January 2013

    Am happy today is Friday as I'm still flying on steroids and getting lots done before the crash (both work related and personal). Was just notfied DD1 is receiving another grant for college so our balance was just dropped by $1500. Thank you for that miracle! That just paid for her plan to visit a GF in Spain during spring break. Nothing makes me happier than seeing my daughters fulfill their dreams!

    I just had to make five corrections to this post... chemo/steroid brain in full force!

    Good luck Paula on the rest of your infusion today!

    Kiwi - my own brother came to visit the weekend after my last treatment complete with a cold. Ugh. I need to get tough with visitors too.

    TGIF ladies!

  • Tinah
    Tinah Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2013

    Having my 3rd chemo today it is going to be a long day.

  • bcoct
    bcoct Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2013

    I have to say this 3rd one kicked my butt compared to first 2.  Tired still and no energy making

    myself eat and drink to keep going.  I see its nice out but no energy to do a walk.  Gotta keep going

    tho and hope by weekend feeling better.  At least could sleep a bit last nite.  i am almost there keep

    reminding myself of that and rads next.  hang in there ladies.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited January 2013

    Paula - so glad your counts are good and you were able to go ahead with chemo.

    Tinah - Hope your infusion goes well also.

    Steiner & bcoct - hope you are both feeling better soon!

  • Runnergirl2013
    Runnergirl2013 Member Posts: 83
    edited January 2013

    Hi All...I am day 3 after round three of chemo ....foggiest and aches have kicked in....my boyfriend and I are chilling at a resort...hoping that this just keeps me upbeat through the next few days.....I hope you are all doing ok...hugs to my fellow warrior sisters!

  • Nicole503
    Nicole503 Member Posts: 295
    edited January 2013

    Steiner and bcoct ~ wishing you moments of peace and good distractions during the poopy period.  I feel like I just emerged from it today and you have my complete sympathy.  For me good distractions (A good and easy trashy novel or a movie) and frequent small meals were the key to getting through.  Wishing you both a return to goodness soon.

  • Dwihtd
    Dwihtd Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2013

    Just found out at chemo that my WBC is down and I have to start 5 days of leukine starting tomorrow, Has anyone had this. They told me to take Claritin today and for 2 days after I am finished with the 5 day treatment. Does the shot hurt? How long after the shot do u start feeling pain ? And where? Help! Someone answer fast because my appt is early tomorrow morning. Thank u ladies.

  • hope49
    hope49 Member Posts: 370
    edited January 2013

    Hi Dec girls!



    Just popping over from the Jan group to see if anyone has tips, thoughts for a few of us experiencing our mouths feeling kind of 'rough' inside...is this dryness?? Any remedies you'd share?



    Thanks and hope you all have a great, SE free weekend!

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Dwihtd - I think the white blood cell boosting shots cause pain a day after or so from when u start . Ask for some more potent pain killers when u are there - no sense in risking it . The claratin is supposed to help but u need something stronger !



    Hope49 - try a mixture of baking soda and salt In warm water - swishing in mouth several

    Times and spit out . But also brush with soft new toothbrush with arm and hammer toothpaste and get biotene brand mouthwash !! If mouth sores get really bad ask mo for Magic Mouthwash prescription ! U might've to go to a compounding phramacy for it - it has lidocaine an other ingredients - kind of makes your mouth numb for awhile but a relief if you truly have sores !

  • Nanc620
    Nanc620 Member Posts: 38
    edited January 2013

    Hi Lovelies,

    I was standing at the bathroom sink dutifully swishisy my Biotene when I saw on the bottle it contanins mild products!  I'm allergic to casein...the basic milk enzyme/protein!  Crap...it may be why my tummy is upset.  Sheesh...so I just took my Ambien CR and an Oxy.  I'm using the full arsenal tonight.  DH will be home at 2:00 and here all day today and tomorrow.  I can just stay in bed...

    Kiwi, my surgeon (whom I love) had me meet my radiation onco before I began chemo so that Iwas clearheaded and able to ask questions.  I'm so happy that I did that, he is an expert with triple neg and rads so I'm in good hands.  God has lead me well once again and I finally decided to shut up and enjoy the ride!

    Good Saturday to you all...we are expecting the deep freeze coming in on Sunday so it will be a good week to stay in and coddle myself.  You do the same wherever you are, OK?  We all need each other.

  • kiwikid
    kiwikid Member Posts: 204
    edited January 2013

    Hi everyone, hope you are having a nice weekend!

    I have decide I want a mx and will ask for a bmx and see if my insurance and surgeon will do it.

    When I look into a future with rads all I see is black anxiety. I don't know what that means but I don't want to find out, so mx is the only way.

    Chemo 2 will be done in 36 hours, I'm actually looking forward to the rest!

    Xx kk

  • Angel84
    Angel84 Member Posts: 25
    edited January 2013

    Hello.

    I would appreciate if you could tell me if you know what are the consequences of prolonged time between chemo cycles.

    My mother had first chemo 27 days ago, she is scheduled in 2 days, but her ESR (sedimentation rate) is high, and she had frequent urination, tested negative for UTC so it's maybe cystitis or smth else. Do you know if that will prolong chemo for sure if leukocytes are normal and what if chemo is given in 28+ days after first? Will it have any affect or she would need to start again with cycles?

    She also has a little bit higher creatinine...if normal is up to 96, she has 102...Did you have similar thing?

    Thank you!

  • donster
    donster Member Posts: 39
    edited January 2013

    hope49 I started my chemo in December and just had round 2 about a week ago.  My first go around left me with a dry mouth, and I was able to manage it with lots of fluids, and hard candies.  Be aware that round 2 might be different...mine surely was.  I not only had a dry mouth, but my tongue turned white and thickened.  The doctor prescribed the Magic Mouthwash and it worked great!  It took about 4 days to really feel better but would strongly urge you to have it on hand. 

    Dwihtd - I got a shot of Neulasta the day after each of my chemo sessions and that too helps to build the white blood cells.  The shot itself doesn't hurt at all, but a couple of days after there will be some serious body aches.   My first round caught my knees and my jaw, my second round caught me with a stiff neck and just an overall feeling of having gotten into a brawl and lost... I take Claritin everyday for allergies so I'm not sure what it would have been like without it.  I would certainly encourage the Claritin as it can't hurt and it might help. 

    I am day 8 after round 2 and am finally feeling less of the chemo fog.  This was a tough week but I am remembering that the side effects are temporary and the cure is for a lifetime.  Stay positive ladies!  

  • bcoct
    bcoct Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2013

    Thanks, Bren.  A bit better today.  This accumlative affect is tough.  Its 60s but no energy to walk now will

    get it together hope by noon to do even a short walk.  All part of the process right?  I sleep like 4 hours then

    wake up and go back to sleep..anyone else sleeping weird?

  • donster
    donster Member Posts: 39
    edited January 2013

    bcoct  Sorry to hear you are having a bad day.  If the sun is shining and you are here to see it, it's not such a bad day :) and tomorrow you will feel hopefully a bit better and a bit stronger.  Yes, sleeping is awful, especially those first few days after chemo.  I find that hot flashes wake me up, and tissue expander discomfort wakes me up and the overall achiness from the Neulasta wakes me as well.  I try to nap while the kids are at school and that seems to help.  Tylenol before bed seems to help a little bit.  I think it sometimes helps me to relax into a comfortable position but still those dang hot flashes catch me in the middle of the night.

    I hope tonight is better for you.Laughing

  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited January 2013

    I haven't posted in a while but now I'm catching up with your posts. I didn't have too much SE's and have been concentrated on physical therapy, my arm is better but still needs a lot of work. I miss driving my car so much!

    So I just wanted to say I didn't abandon our chemo thread! I'm going round #2 on Monday and surprisingly I still have my hair. It's falling a lot more than usual, but still not enough to force me to buzz. Maybe I'll do it tomorrow because Monday I'm going to my parents (2-3 days) and I don't want to buzz it there.

    I wish you all a nice Sunday with no SE's :)

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited January 2013

    Hi ladies. It's a sunny day here so I managed a run/walk for about forty minutes with DH. I think the steroids are beginning to calm down. The mouth ick had begun so everything tastes cruddy. Otherwise though I think I feel better two days post chemo than the first two rounds so that's encouraging. DD2 went back to college today so it's quiet again. Thinking a nap with the kitten sounds good about now.

  • Runnergirl2013
    Runnergirl2013 Member Posts: 83
    edited January 2013

    Gwen.... You rock...how do u run so soon after? I struggle with the fog and feeling do out of it....I can't handle the moods and the emotions. I had chemo on wed and am actually starting to feel better .....achy and tired but not as foggy! Watching real housewives and trying to learn how to chill. ;)

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited January 2013

    Runnergirl - I sat around too much after chemo 2 and I think it made me feel worse. So I'm trying to do a little more this time and hope for the best. Who knows how long that will last!

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Runner girl and friend Gwen - I had TC # 2 on Thursday and am doing a bit better than round one ( got the acid reflux nipped in the bud and no popcorn this time to catch in my icky mouth ) but I have to say feeling more toxic this time in my taste buds . Gwen that is so encouraging that # 3 is better for u - I thought it got worse as far as being tired bit I guess your idea of staying active would really help ameliorate that - so I will follow suit on Sunday with a walk run too !!! Thanks december ladies for all your help and advice - don't know what I would do without these discussion boards !!

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