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  • EnglishRose75
    EnglishRose75 Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2013

    Jojo, no significant side effects from the rads so far.  My boob is looking very slightly "tanned" and I'm a bit tired, but that's probably chemo residue and the result of getting back to normal life--work, kids, all the usual stuff.  And my arm on that side feels a bit stiff, especially in the mornings. Compared with chemo, it's a breeze.  The only thing I would say is that mentally, it's been a bit taxing for me.  Going in to the oncology unit of the main hospital every day, I'm faced with cancer every day (not that I didn't think about it every day before, but it was in my own home and on my own terms).  I see alot of people in the radiology unit who really don't look good at all (I've never really wanted to look or feel "ill") and emotionally I find that draining.  I agree with Neta--the after treatment phase brings on different challenges, especially in the head space.

    I started Tamoxifen on Monday.  I was originally diagnosed triple negative until I found out I was slightly PR+.  So, like Melrose said, having thought that hormone treatments would not be available to me, I love the fact that I can take Tamoxifen and that it might help prevent a recurrence, whatever side effects it brings.  It's psychologically important for me.  I've not been taking it long enough yet to see how it will affect me.  I've been having the hot flashes since chemo too.

    Wishing everyone a great Thursday!

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited January 2013

    English, Melrose, Neta, thanks and please keep us Tamoxifen "newbies" informed.



    Does everyone get the same dosage?

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited January 2013

    A little pandora while me and the treadmill get acquainted....



    Do any of you ladies know a good website or store to buy post surgical camisoles?

  • kelleyb
    kelleyb Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2013

    Thanks everyone for the great info on post-chemo recovery and Tamoxifan experiences.  I am strongly ER+ so have that to look forward to as well.  I was having hot flashes shortly before I found my BC and had them for a couple weeks after my second round of TCH then they stopped.  I assumed that was that.  Hmmmmm, maybe not?

    Question - how long have your hot flashes spanned?  Did they stop at some point during chemo and never return or do they return on the ESD's (estrogen sucking drugs)?

    Had that last Taxol yesterday afternoon - they don't have a bell, but I ate a couple Cadbury Eggs during the session in honor of the occasion.  :)

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited January 2013

    Up to 23% of tamo users will have weight loss. See this: http://breast-cancer.emedtv.com/tamoxifen/tamoxifen-side-effects.html

    I experience nausea and discomfort if I take a whole dose (20mg). I switched from taking at night to AM, 1/2 at breakfast and 1/2 at lunch. My MO ok's this. Tamo dampens my appetite and I have had to track my eating through the last few weeks of radiation to make sure I ate the protein I'm supposed to be getting, not lose weight, and for nutrition in general. Kind of a pain but having been overweight most of my life, I have some appreciation that I am not struggling with weight gain though I imagine that could change after radiation is done too.  Other than that, I can't tell if I'm having side effects left over from chemo and radiation (last one today!!!!!) or new from tamo. I still have hot flashes but I'm somewhat accustomed to them since I've been having them since chemo started last June. I get the idea it's still a little early to tell what SEs I will have ultimately.

    On another note, thanks for the reminder on Benadryl too, melrose. I have been trying to wean myself off of it at night. I best get serious. I can do Alegra and that doesn't seem to show up in the list.

  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Hi Amy - I went to a local medical supply store and they had a separate section devoted to this.  I was able to get 2 post-surgical camisoles - by "Anita Care."  I learned that my insurance covered it.  That was great news, because the total cost for the two of them was $135.00.  I bought them a size larger so I could get in / out of them with ease.  They have worked out well for me.  I wear them and tank tops under my shirts instead of a bra.

    Also, on a side note for all of us that purchased wigs .... I learned .... sometimes insurance companies will cover the cost of this too.  You need a Rx from your MO.  My insurance did not - but - I have an AFLAC cancer policy (had it for many, many years) and they reimbursed me for my wig.  They reimburse up to $250, one time only, for a wig.

    Hugs : )))

  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Kellyb - I'm PFC since 12/18 and I'm still having hot flashes (had them all through treatment).  MO said chemo put me into menopause and it could go one of two ways ... I stay there, never look back and get used to the hot flashes, or at any point in time, my period could return and I can look forward to going through menopause again in the future.  My infusion center did not have a bell either.  I ate a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich.  When I was done, my nurse gave me a big hug and my DH and me left.  It was kind of a weird feelling.

    Hugs : )))

  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Kellyb - I'm PFC since 12/18 and I'm still having hot flashes (had them all through treatment). MO said chemo put me into menopause and it could go one of two ways ... I stay there, never look back and get used to the hot flashes, or at any point in time, my period could return and I can look forward to going through menopause again in the future. My infusion center did not have a bell either. I ate a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich. When I was done, my nurse gave me a big hug and my DH and I left. It was kind of a weird feelling.

    Hugs : )))

  • Foreverchanged72612
    Foreverchanged72612 Member Posts: 223
    edited January 2013

    Thanks to all you ladies posting about tamoxifen!  That is my number one question for next MO visit: when do I start? My surgery has been booked for Mar 14 and then rads for April. 

  • Neta69
    Neta69 Member Posts: 203
    edited January 2013

    So 23% of women on Tamoxifen lose weight, but guess what? I end up being in the 9% that gain! How unlucky is that? Never had a problem with my weight before and now I seem to have ballooned!

    I have started doing yoga and today I went with a friend to her gym to check it out. This is huge for me as I haven't done any proper excersize for years. I will have to change if I want to fit through the door I guess. The class I tried was good and I feel pretty proud of myself today :)

    English, I know the feeling. Seeing other patients who are very Ill isn't helpful at this stage. I used to keep my eyes fixed on the floor

    on my way to the change room and on my way back out. Kept telling myself how lucky I was that I was a temporary visitor and that my prognosis and future had nothing to do with the other patients. I guess I needed to separate myself mentally from some of what you see at the cancer centre and keep the thoughts that creep up on you away.

    Jojo, I think 20mg is standard dose.

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited January 2013

    Faithfocus.... We didnt have a bell either and I also gave my nurse a big hug and told her I couldnt of done it without her! I second you on it feeling just weird leaving.. In a strange way Im gonna miss that place, well not the place but the people I became close with....

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited January 2013

    Amy- If you want to just look at some online, you can check out the TLC website.  Here is the link:  http://www.tlcdirect.org/.  I purchased a surgical camisole from a local specialty shop.  I bought a Amoera camisole that came with fiber foobs.  If you decide to buy a camisole, make sure you can step into it and pull it up.  It will be difficult post surgery to lift your arms up and pull anything over your head and arms.   Also, check with your insurance company to see what type of surgical garments you can be reimbursed for.  There are other options for drain holders other than surgical camisole.  You can use lanyards, a fanny pack, safety pin the drains to your shirt or buy some "pink pockets" that can be affixed to the inside of your shirt/blouse.  Here is the link for the pink pockets: http://www.pink-pockets.com/ 

    I wore Champions Brand dry fit athletic front zip jackets that had interior pockets that I purchased from Target for $28.  Each inside pocket could hold two drains.  I bought two of them in a size bigger than I normally would wear so it would be easy to get the jacket on and off. 

  • JodiRocksthePink
    JodiRocksthePink Member Posts: 23
    edited January 2013

    I just wanted to remind everyone having a mastectomy with TEs....the band on the sports bra presses on the drain tubes. It made huge sores on my skin...VERY painful. I ended up cutting a tiny hole in the bra and threading the tube through. The tube comes off the drain bulb so you can do this quick fix in 5 mins. I wish I'd have done this right away.

    Good luck to all!

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited January 2013

    Thanks for the tips ladies

  • florbo
    florbo Member Posts: 178
    edited January 2013

    I'm done! I'm done!  I finished 6 rounds of FEC yesterday!  I haven't been on the forum much because I've been sick and the whole family had been sick the past couple of months.  

    It's such an exhilirating feeling knowing it is over.  I just want to get through all this nausea and the Neulasta pain.  The peripheral neuropathy is managable in my fingers.  I've had more stomach issues lately going between constipation and diarrhea.  However, my body seemed to tolerate the chemo better than I had in 2009.

    Surgery to remove the tumors is suppose to be in 5-8 weeks, then radiation.  It's a weird feeling now that chemo is over.  I knew what to expect after a chemo session.  Now I feel like I don't know what's going to happen.  Praying that anything else will be easier than chemo.

    Thanks for all your support.  Reading everyone's posts have been an tremendous encouragement.

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited January 2013

    Congrats florbo! Welcome to the pfc club....

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited January 2013

    Ahh, finally officially staged, IIB (even though that is what we thought prior to surgery). Appointment with BS went well. He said I still had a lot of fluid in tissues, just need hot compresses. Got my arm exercise book and clearance for half days work next week and full time after. Rads are a go within a month too. MO appt tomorrow, lots of questions for her.



    So happy with my choice to do neoadjuvant chemo. The relief to read my tumor and nodes had significant response to chemo made it worth it! I choose this route since my mom did surgery, then 3 rounds of chemo with progression each time, and died a year after diagnosis. I had to know!

  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited January 2013

    I am miserably sick:-(  Constipated, nauseated, and finger toe pain... Uggh.  Keep trying to repeat myself that this was my last round, and I will be feeling better soon... but I just can't stop crying and feeling sorry for myself.

          Congrats to those finishing.  Hope we all are on the mend soon.


     



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  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Florbo - CONGRATULATIONS!!!

    Jojo - I am glad you are pleased with the choice you made.  It must have been difficult for you to see what your mom went through.

    Mariposa - You WILL feel better soon!  Focus on the fact that you are done!  Now, you have time on your side; you don't have to go back for more treatment.  Give yourself a break and let your body begin to recover. 

    Hugs   : )))

  • Foreverchanged72612
    Foreverchanged72612 Member Posts: 223
    edited January 2013

    Jojo - I can't get over how big that must be to get the pathology report back! I will be on eggshells, too, until I get mine. But it's been a powerful feeling watching and feeling the tumour get smaller and smaller.

    Mariposa: take care. Hope you feel better soon!!

    Florbo: congratulations!!

  • Neta69
    Neta69 Member Posts: 203
    edited January 2013

    Florbo, congratulations on finishing chemo!

    Mariposa, just keep thinking that very, very soon you will feel better than you have felt in months and you can start healing both body and mind. Hang in there!

    Jojo, happy to hear stage was as expected and that rads are lined up but so sorry about your mother. I lost my mom to cancer as well. She died 3 months after diagnosis at 59. My own diagnosis brought back a lot of pain and fear but I keep telling myself that my story is different from hers and that I will be ok. Hope tomorrows meeting with your MO is good.

  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited January 2013

    I have been on Tamoxifen since early Dec. I am having some hot flashes but not as many as I did with chemo. Sleeping okay and haven't gained any weight on Tamoxifen, I gained mine on chemo and am starting to watch what I am eating but plan on getting serious about dropping 15 lbs when rads on done on the 24 th.....5 left and my skin is looking pretty good, it is going much better than I imagined.....so EASY!

  • Cherioo
    Cherioo Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2013

    Jojo glad you finally know. When I was told. When I was told I was ready for chemo and rads to complete this and be done. Look at all of us Girls, we are now done with chemo, some of us the first surgery , starting radiation or completed rads. I feel so blessed to have you guys.



    I was looking at my white hair today and I can't believe the color . So looking forward to my eyelashes and brows coming back . Feel like a alien .



    Amy get with the cancer society I know they had the tube tops available when I had surgery. I did not know at the time of my surgery they were available

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2013

    Kelly's...A Cadbury Egg in my mind is better than ringing a bell. Congrats to you on eing done!



    Mariposa..you will feel better soon. I haven't had chemo for three weeks today and I am starting to feel like myself again. Still have neuropathy..more in my toes, but so much better than before. No more bone pain either.



    Florbo. Congrats to you too! Hope you are feeling better.



    JoJo..glad your appointments went well and you are happy with your decision. I'm anxious to hear what your MO says. I always like to hear what everyone's doctors say.



    Sounds like a few ofus have lost their moms, JoJo and Neta. I lost mine 5 months before my dx and I sure miss her right now. I would always crawl in bed with her and we would watch TV and she would stroke my hand and hair. How I miss those days.



    My last day of work is tomorrow before surgery and I'm so behind! Hope I bring my good brain tomorrow.



    Nighty Nite!



  • EnglishRose75
    EnglishRose75 Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2013

    Morning everyone!

    Mariposa, I hope you feel better soon.  I found with the last one that I mentally and physically let go a bit more than with the others, kind of like breathing a deep sigh and letting it all out.  No matter how bad you feel, take comfort in the fact that this part is done and over and each day you'll start to feel better and stronger.

    Congrats, florbo! 

    Neta, you and me both on the gym front!  I'm generally an active person and I walk alot, but I've never been one for "organised" exercise.  I put it down to time, but that's probably just an excuse.  Now it's time to make time.  Need to invest in some aerobics DVDs/Wii fit type things too so that I can do exercise at home when it's just not practical to go to a gym.

    I lost my dad to cancer (of the oesophagus) 10 years ago this year.  He was 59. I've thought about him alot since my diagnosis. 

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited January 2013

    Florbo, WTG, we have missed hearing from you.



    Mariposa, hugs, you will feel better soon!



    A reminder for you girls doing surgery soon. The constipation thing returns post surgery. I didn't go for 6 days after. Don't forget your Smooth tea and Colace!

  • Timbek2
    Timbek2 Member Posts: 204
    edited January 2013

    You got that JO JO!  Hope things are moving well foor you now.  To me that's the worst part of surgery-constipation!  It was the worst part of AC for me too.  Glad that's behind me!  Really hoping the radiation won't destroy my skin too badly and mess up my foobs.  Not really wanting any more surgery in the near future if I can help it!  Love not having to wear a bra.  Never have had to my whole life because I'm small anyway.  There are advantages to it! :)

    Had to report my GOOD NEWS!  My one and only (sibling)brother has a little boy 3 and just found out they are having a GIRL in JUNE!  My only girl was ECSTATIC to have a girl cousin finally!  They will be 8 years apart but she is just over the moon about it and so am I!  Can't wait to feel like myself and do some serious retail damage on her behalf!  :):)

    I'm on my steroid high which is good because I am hosting my son't 11th birthday party andn playing minute to win it games.  Hope I can keep the energy up for tonight!  Love you all!  Just two treatments left-THANKS GOD!

  • Neta69
    Neta69 Member Posts: 203
    edited January 2013

    Bearcub, glad to hear you are sailing through rads! Sounds like that fear you had about rads is gone :)



    Hope and English, so sorry about your parents. I like to think my mom is with me somehow through all of this. We were very close.



    English, Bearcub and anyone else trying to get back in shape, let's post our efforts and share how we do!



    Timbek, only 2 left! The end of chemo is in sight!

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited January 2013

    I had a very nice surprise today.... I went into my bank to cash DH paycheck and someone in my community deposited 500.00 into my bank account! I want to thank them in a big way but the teller said they want to remain anonymous...... I love random acts of kindness... Brought tears to my eyes!

  • PatinMN
    PatinMN Member Posts: 920
    edited January 2013

    Amy - wow, what a great surprise! 

    Neta - my puny effort for today was 30 minutes walking on the treadmill.  I couldn't do more because I had to go home and shower and get to my rad appointment.  Course if I would have gotten my butt in gear sooner to get to the gym I would have had time to do more...  So far the chemo weight gain hasn't budged, but part of the problem is all the treats I baked and was given over the holidays.

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