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  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    Maryah don't tell me your losing weight too?  Am I the only one here who hasn't lost an ounce? What's going to happen when I start my 5 years of meds!!!!  I just keep "puffing up"  next year I may sign up for football Yell

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited January 2013

    5LuvBugs ~ My dog, Mariahrose. follows me around when I cook.  She never has been fed people food before, she knows I'll take a few bites, be done and give her the rest.  She thinks this is even better than when my grandson is over and occasionally drops food.

    I had a cast made of my torso pre-BMX and tried it on.  It's much bigger (the waist and upper chest), not the missing boobs!  LOL

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Tricia~I'm with you. No weight loss here, though I did lose about 16 lbs after surgery due to the kflex surgeon had me on. I'm quite sure it has all found me again though.



    I've been sick with the crud all week. Haven't been out of the house since Monday, but I'm definitely getting out for a bit today.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited January 2013

    I posted this on another thread, but thought you might want to be aware of this as well.  I just read an article regarding an NIH study that drinking pop, but especially diet pop (4 or more cans/day) and other artificially sweetened drinks (tea, fruit drinks), 4 or more cans/day, can lead to a risk of depression. I thought you might find this interesting.  They said more data is needed (the age of patients was 50-71 and there were only 260,000 participants), but thought you might want to be aware of this given some of the meds we may be on trigger mood issues, let alone our circumstances.


  • Tlym
    Tlym Member Posts: 115
    edited January 2013

    Txjunebug-I'm also BRCA+, so I'm worried about my daughter inheriting my mutation as well. She's almost 18, and we have decided to wait for her to finish college before having her tested. Please give careful consideration to your daughter having early mammograms, as there have been studies showing an increased risk for BRCA mutation carriers with early radiation. http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/BreastCancer/34620. I would recommend MRIs and ultrasound. Due to dense breast tissue, my own tumor was found on elective ultrasound after a clean mammogram last year. I personally have decided not to do any more mammograms. Insurance will cover an annual MRI and I will continue to self-pay for ultrasounds.

    Maryah-How fabulous to have a cast made of your torso. Where did you have it done? After a lot of soul searching, I have decided to forego radiation and have the BMX due to my genetic mutation and the hopes of reducing my risk for a new recurrence or new primary. I would love to have a cast made before I do surgery.

  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited January 2013

    Hi ladies. Chemo yesterday and just feel tired today. Took two sleeping tablets last night as I forgot to take my dex until 8pm and didn't want to be awake. Slept well and been curled up on sofa all day watching TV. Taste buds gross already - think it's as much the steroids as the chemo that causes it. All I fancied today was milky porridge.



    For those asking, I think peeling feet is an SE of Taxotere and I think pyridoxine (vitamin B6) tabs can be given to help. Thankfully not had that SE myself.



    Just gave myself my Neulasta shot. Now wondering when to take my stool softener so I can hopefully avoid the dreaded constipation this time!

  • MichelleV
    MichelleV Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2013

    I had to get a flu shot before starting chemo as did everyone in my house. So far we have been healthy except I have had a cold for over a week but it didn't stop my treatment last week! Two taxol treatments down and 10 to go. So far not too bad. Tired but no nausea like with the AC. I'm glad I'm not the only one craving a hamburger!



    I just recently joined and have tried to read some things but my fear is the cancer coming back. I guess every one has that fear? how do you put those feelings aside and remain positive? Maybe that comes with time as I was diagnosed at the end of September.



    Thanks everyone and have a nice day!



    Michelle

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Michellej~I think the constipation comes from the anti-nausea meds, so I start them the day before chemo.



    I belong to at least 10 different threads on this forum, but this one is by far my favorite. So glad you started it Michelle.



    Blessings

    Paula



  • Loafer
    Loafer Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2013

    Yes, it's the anti-nausea meds in the drip that causes that nasty constipation - don't wait to take the meds!!! I made that mistake with this final round.



    Interesting, I crave oatmeal in te morning which i think is similar to Michelle's porridge.



    I also found the sparkling ICE drinks to be delicious with my funky taste buds. If you are tired of water, this is a great substitute. The black raspberry is my fav. This drink and lime chips seem to be the only thing that tastes good - except for that big juicy burger!

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited January 2013

    Tlym ~ I had a caster do it and Frida (Frida Clements Design) will do the post-BMX cast and artwork.  All you need for the cast is a kit they use for pregnant women (The Belly Cast, etc., which you can get at most maternity stores). 

    I chose Frida to do the artwork because she knows me quite well and I find her artwork very soothing.  It encompasses the use of earth, life, and nature in a peaceful, flowing, and warm manner.  I want to capture my journey with BC the same way using the pre- and post-casts.  One of my favorite works of hers is her "Night Tea."  She is an amazing and beautiful woman whose heart and soul show in her work.

  • Sickofpink
    Sickofpink Member Posts: 190
    edited January 2013

    Never did have that burger last night and am SO tired today, just took the gastro meds so now i just have to smile pretty at dh to go get it! Ha! Taste buds already waning...



    Maryah & Eleni how brave and inspired to turn this into art, a true celebration of life!



    Paula- the woven dental floss is much easier on the gums- if u can find it. Also, my onc just said the first four of my 6 TCH are more important dose-wise than the last, hope that works out in your favor with this awful delay..



    Loafer- look forward to hearing about the rad options!



    Anyone want to join me to watch Miss America and get drunk and throw popcorn at the screen? Ok, not the drunk part this year.. Oops i forgot the popcorn, too.. As long as they don't talk about bc it could still be a cartoon escape... Sad to think this could happen even to them.

    Back to the happy burger idea

    :) xo

  • Loafer
    Loafer Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2013

    Hi all ~



    Posted an updated avitar pic. Went out for the first time in months last night. Great to get out of house and mingle with other couples. My hat covered all my bald spots, so i felt good. The only comment I received was why did you cut your hair. Little do they know!!



    Starting to feel a little bit like my old self again. This final round has less SEs or i'm ignoring them all. Stayed up til 10pm which is also a first for me.



    Hope you all have a relaxing and symptom free day!!!



    Hugs xo xo



  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited January 2013

    I made a big mistake today by sleeping in the afternoon. Hope I can sleep tonight. Really don't want to have to get up and go to see the psychologist tomorrow...

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited January 2013

    Sickofpink ~ Happy burgers?  I've heard of happy brownies, but never happy burgers... Wink

  • Eleni
    Eleni Member Posts: 130
    edited January 2013

    Michelle, you have to see the psychologist. I always thought I can solve my problems myself, I don't need to talk to a therapist. Well, I went and I LOVED it. That was the previous time. This time *I* asked right away for a therapist. The one I got, I didn't like her. So I asked and got my old therapist back. It's so helpful.

    Be open, talk, cry, say exactly how you feel. She is not going to judge you and she might be able to help you.

  • Eleni
    Eleni Member Posts: 130
    edited January 2013

    Sickofpink, I thought, hopefully I'll never go through that again. So let's take the photos without the hair. Seeing the photos (had make up on and nice earrings) made me feel beautiful. Even without the hair. And I can choose to show these photos to others or not. For the time being only my husband and kids have seen them.

    It makes me to want actually to go out like that. But the snow and the idea that the others would be scared, stops me. Maybe later. Unfortunately my hair doesn't come back fast.

  • Sickofpink
    Sickofpink Member Posts: 190
    edited January 2013

    Maryah, all burgers are happy as far as I'm concerned - and last night's was just in the nick of time before my tastebuds blew.



    Eleni, i bet u look beautiful in ur pics, and owning it. Funny how we still try to protect others from feeling uncomfortable - but yes, cold weather wins.



    Michelle, hope it went well with psych today.



    Sweet dreams, all.



  • Megan2
    Megan2 Member Posts: 70
    edited January 2013

    I have been too tired to post for the past bit - had two days where i couldn't even get off the couch. Feel better now, but chemo is wednesday so it is short lived:) But 5luvbugs, I have to tell you that I am one of the lazy posters, but I sure haven't left the group. I will stick around during radiation too - I really like coming in and seeing how everyone is doing. Everyone feels so familiar to me now. 

    So - I have 5 days of comments. Txjunbug, I can only imagine how frightened you are. I haven't been tested yet, and it would be my worst nightmare for either of my daughters to have it. But I would want them to know so they could be proactive and catch anything at stage 0 or 1 when it is practically curable. I hope your daughter's gene never amounts to more than a mutation. And that you can live with this worry as it could be a bigger one than your own worries. As mom's, we worry more about our kids than ourselves. 

    Michele - I am with everyone about finding the right therapist. Therapy can be amazing. I figure we all need it more than we admit:)

    To get back to the itching, I finally went to the ob/gyn and it was a very mild bacterial infection from low immunity during chemo. So on antibiotics and probiotics and all the pre chemo drugs. Crazy.

    Someone asked about the Canadian protocol. Not sure who. I looked it up on-line when I was first diagnosed, as it was mentioned to me by a canadian oncologist i consulted. I then asked two friends who underwent radiation in Canada, and they got what they were told was a standard five weeks. 50 geysers, over 25 days. If you have masectomy, it ends there, if you had a lumpectomy, they do boosters and it is longer. I had a friend ask her canadian oncologist this last week. I was today offered a 3 week or 6.5 week protocol, and couldn't get the Dr to tell me the difference, as 3 weeks does not seem to be the Canadian protocol - unless my Canadian friends in Canada didn't get the Canadian protocol for reasons specific to their cancers (one is stage 3, the other 2a, both are hormone positive, Her2 -). Anyway, the radiation Dr today told me cosmetic effects are worse with the 3 week (breast shrinking, burning) but I think that is bias as places wouldn't offer it if it shriveled up boobs like raisons. I would have gone for the 5 week protocol my friends got at home (I am canadian living overseas), but am uncertain about this 3 week one. So I seem to be signed up for 6.5 at this point. It is confusing. I would obviously rather have it over in 3 weeks, but only if I understand it is medically equivalent in terms of effectiveness and toxicity. If you get more info, let me know....

  • politicomama
    politicomama Member Posts: 187
    edited January 2013

    Rads:  I do not know about the Canadian protocol, but my RO who is the head of breast RO at Ohio State said five weeks 25 treatments, no boost.  I had a mastectomy, ER+PR weakly + Her2-.   I am doing a consult with a local RO in two weeks out of curiousity as it will cost me $12 a day to drive back and forth to OSU. 

    I went to Look Good Feel Better today.  It was nice, BUT a lot of the make up had parabens in it.  I thought it was pretty widely known that parabens and breast cancer don't mix.  I know the program is for women with all types of cancer, but I feel badly that I am throwing away a lot of it.  The other two women were 40+ years older than me, so while they were nice it was also a littlw akward.  Very different outlooks on things :)

  • Sickofpink
    Sickofpink Member Posts: 190
    edited January 2013

    Hm, yes - the paraben issue is like docs who stick to their one knowlege base. Hard to be perfect about healthy food & makeup, when people just want to help so we seem paranoid. Or are the effects cumulative from years so those details are less important now?



    So moody today, too dizzy to work but rampant anxiety about dd etc. free meditation tapes at marc.ucla.edu/body... but only temporary help. I finally broke down and took a xanax. I want this time to pass but don't want to wish my life away, ugh! Anyone else?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Sickofpink~I have AC #3 this Friday. I'm dreading it so bad. I do wish I could take something to sleep through Day 5- Day 8. I'm always better by then.



    This time I got a head cold during my nadir period. It hit me with a triple whammy. I'm 62, and I've never had a cold like this in my life. Today, I'm almost normal, and now it's almost tx time again.



    Yep...THIS SUX!!!!!



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Megan2
    Megan2 Member Posts: 70
    edited January 2013

    Also wanted to say I was told a flu shot is no problem, as long as it is after the counts rebound (there is something on the BC Cancer agency about flu shots being ok for chemo patients if you want to look it up). I had mine between chemos - two days before my third chemo treatment so all side effects would resolve and wouldn't get confused with fever following chemo. I was fine, had no problems with the flu shot and feel safer flying and going into airport crowds where people are sneezing and coughing like crazy. I also wear an N95 mask on flights (I fly for chemo) - this mask is not available in many drug stores, so you have to ask for it. It is the one that you need to protect you from small particles like viruses. It is a bit embarassing to wear, but seems to have kept me healthy when kids are sick, or on flights. They are cheap - about $3 a mask. And are reusable. 

  • politicomama
    politicomama Member Posts: 187
    edited January 2013

    Sick, I had a few days that just sucked like that the week of new years.   Like you I am trying to live, but I am also counting the days until it is over.  I am 12 weeks into treatment and have another twelve of active chemo to go.  I'm over it.  Sometimes my anxiety level is on 100% about the kids especially.  Hang in there. 

  • Loafer
    Loafer Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2013

    Hi all ~ I met with RO today to find out if I qualify for Rads trial. It is a phase 3 trial of accelerated whole breast irradiation(RTOG 1005). There are two groups in the study. (Control and test). Standard 6 week radiation and 3 week radiation. It's completely random and computer generated as to whether I get in the test or control group. The purpose is to compare rads given with a higher daily dose over 3 weeks with a boost versus standard 6 week treatments. 2300 people in trial.



    Will find out tomorrow if I was randomly selected to participate or not. if I don't get in, Onc said there is another trial which is 4 weeks in total. Either way I will be doing Rads for either 3 or 4 total weeks - yea! When asked about fatigue with rads, said typically fatigue sets in at 3 weeks just about the time you would be done.



    Megan - let me know where you can purchase the $3 masks. Have a business trip to Florida next week and have not gotten the flu shot.

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    Wow, it's nice to see so many posts tonite - I was getting worried that you girls were leaving but I'm glad all our friends are still here and leaning on each other.  Before I forget, love the new look Loafer, it's attractive..

    So many good posts, I can't possibly keep my eyes open to go back and respond but I want to let you know that my rotten cold is getting better, after a week on antibiotic, nebulizer treatments and cough med with codeine - now I'm just taking Mucinex DM and feel better so guess what = I got cleared for my final chemo tomorrow morning. Yea!!  I just made a big pot of chicken soup with little meatballs, celery and carrots.  Now I plan to make a sign to post on my doors in order to keep the germs and rotten flu away- what do you think?

    "Unless you live here - Keep Out!!!"  Do you think anyone will want to speak to me after this, do you think they'll come in anyway? ...Guess I better change my wording.. Then I might change the message on my phone "I'm sleeping, call back in 2 weeks!!!! Maybe I better just lock the doors, unplug the phone, shut up and be glad I have family and friends who "give a shit" ...Listen to me girls, I'm already getting crabby and starting with that Tourettes and I didn't even get the treatment yet!!!! Must be the steroids..

    I want to talk to you girls alll night, so much to read and respond to but it's almost 10 pm and I have to leave here at 7:30 am so I am going to say goodnight, sweet dreams.  Love ya girlsKiss

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Tricia~I'm glad you're feeling better. I was down with that crud for a week. I even missed church yesterday, something I never do. Not cause I'm so good, but cause God is. I'm just afraid he'll show off and I'll miss it.



    I felt well enough today to go to Walmart with my man when he got in from work. Then we came home and had homemade potato soup with a hunk of buttered French bread. So glad I could taste it. Delicious!



    I get chemo #3 on Friday. I'm dreading it, but also want to get it over with.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Sickofpink - 

    Re: this "I want this time to pass but don't want to wish my life away, ugh! Anyone else?"

    Wow, I said these exact same words to a friend of mine yesterday!  And I have all the treatments calendared out for a year (I'll be on Herceptin for a year if all goes as scheduled). 

    Just doing a late night drop-by to say, YES, I know how you feel!

  • keetmom
    keetmom Member Posts: 432
    edited January 2013

    Uggg hives are back!! It needs has to be something in the chemo my body doesnt like. NP told me last week to try claritin so I   just want the next few weeks over so I can move past this...the claritin/benedryl mixture seems to be keeping me comfortable but this sucks!!!

  • monstermum
    monstermum Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2013

    Hi all, just found this group. great help.

    I've had gum pain/tenderness from the get go. Also, my teeth are super sensitive to cold. What up with that?

  • monstermum
    monstermum Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2013

    Anyone have an experience with "extravasation"? (Chemo leaking out of the vein)

    Carol in Ma here.

    Started A/C every 3 weeks in November. First two sessions went relatively great! No nausea, a few mouth sores and funny tastes, and very little appetite loss. Still managed to lose a few pounds. Then, WHAM, on the third treatment I had a a suspected "extravasation" of the Adriamycin. Scary stuff. (I suddenly became the most popular girl in the chemo room! Treated 3 days with an antidote drug that knocked me for a loop. Resceduled third treatment for following week which was followed by exhaustion, vomiting, loss of appetite, 8 pounds more lost (not good). Hoping the final treatment next week goes back to my normal as they feel the antidote drug set me up for failure. Also, two weeks later my bicep over the vein where it was injected is burning with pain.

    Thanks for all the great info here.

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