January 2013 chemo group

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  • SeattleMama
    SeattleMama Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2013

    Starting adriamycin and taxol this week, weekly, for 2-3 months >:( but my ct scan was clear :)

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited January 2013

    Hi SeattleMama- Glad you scan is clear. I've learned to celebrate the small victories and ANY good news that comes my way... Good luck on your trip to our happy hour place. May you have minimal SEs...

  • ablydec
    ablydec Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    I bought Alleve (for the post-Neulasta pain) and heard about Claritin (but didn't get it).  But to be honest, I'm finding mself a weird kind of "curious" about the bone pain.  As you all said, in places I didn't know I had.  And remember, the Neulasta is prompting the bone marrow to produce more white blood cells.  So what we're actually feeling is the positive effect of our little immune-system-factory.  Sorry this sounds odd (I probably wouldn't say it if/when it gets bad) but it's kind of cool.  (Forgive me if you're in a lot of pain!)

  • SherylB
    SherylB Member Posts: 450
    edited January 2013

    I agree with the miracle of medicine but have to be able to breath to appreciate it LOL.

  • gd2shuz
    gd2shuz Member Posts: 45
    edited January 2013

    Hi again everyone, I hope everyone is feeling well.  I don't know if this is the right place to post this...I don't see a place to start a new thread, just a "post reply" button.   - Anyway, I've noticed several things different in my experience than some of the stuff I've been reading. I was never told  to use ace bandage or compression on my bmx, and was sent home with my staples open-to-air.  They are fine, no discomfort but really bruised looking (surgery was one week ago), otherwise no problems.  I have 4 drains, two for each breast, I drain a total of about 200-225 cc's daily since I came home and no sign yet of it letting up. Only discomfort there is where drains come out of my skin, but no infection. I go back to the surgeon on Thursday for my first follow up.  

    Will I need chemo?   I don't know yet.

    Am I TN?  I don't know.  Is it better or worse than not being TN ?

    I need to make an appt with MO to get these questions answered, and I have had a little bit of trouble getting in touch with their offices...but will try again tomorrow. 

    I thought I'd get chemo anyway, even if the surgeon or MO says it's optional, but it sounds very scary. 

    Every time I'm on here I learn something else to ask the doctors.  Thank you all!  God bless you, will lurk online for a while and jump in from time to time.

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited January 2013

    ablydec- a lot of this is 'kinda cool'. I don't need the Neulasta shot as I am every 3 weeks for my AC. I can imagine it sucks bad. I hate to hear that some of you are in so much pain.  I would have no idea what bone pain feels like.  For that matter, I had no idea what major surgery felt like... I was fascinated with the drains (in a gross,no wait, thats cool) kinda way. All the preparation for losing hair, now I just want it to fall out. The port amazes me... Our bodies are amazing machines.

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited January 2013

    gd2shuz- Do you have the JP drains? I packed my drains into a fanny pack instead of clipping them to my clothes. less pulling. My PS said I could cover the drain sites with a gause bandage if they are irriated. I was sent home with instructions to NOT wear a bra or comression of any type until I saw him for my first post op. I did wear a snug tank top.

    Your surgeon will tell you more about your treatment when they get the final pathology report. Mine took a few weeks to come back. So focus on healing. DO ZERO HOUSEWORK. Let everyone help you. Your job is to get up every few hours and walk around and then plant your tush in a comfy chair and take command of the remote.

    Good luck!!!

  • Bryona
    Bryona Member Posts: 214
    edited January 2013

    Mandy, glad to hear you're home. I hate that you ended up in that awful 1%. On the other hand, maybe now it's time to take skimommi's approach and buy a lottery ticket...?

    kiwikid, it may be short, but I still think your hair is adorable. Then again, I'm a short-haired girl, so it could be my personal bias. Anyway, as far as I've heard, you're right on schedule: I keep hearing that day 17 is the magic day.

    SeattleMama, that's great news about your scans!

    Good luck at the bar tomorrow, ziffy and liz! (And anyone else I don't know about.)

  • Bryona
    Bryona Member Posts: 214
    edited January 2013

    Speaking of how amazing modern medicine and our bodies are, I'm trying something a little different for my treatment. (And before I say anything about it, I just want y'all to know that I'm not trying to convince you to try it with me!) 

    A scientist at USC has been doing research for the past several years into the effects of starvation on healthy cells. It appears that, when we starve for a short time (48 hours, which does NOT sound short to me!), our healthy cells switch from their normal state into a maintenance mode. They stop trying to reproduce and focus on repair instead, and they become more resistant to stress. Based on that, Dr. Longo's theory is that if we fast before a chemo treatment, we can protect our healthy cells from at least some of the damage chemo does.

    So, I'm giving it a try. They're doing clinical trials at USC and the Mayo Clinic but not here, so I'm going it semi-alone -- "semi" because I gave my MO copies of the related studies, and she thinks it sounds fascinating. It's also low-risk.

    Anyway, that means I'm now fasting, and I have to say I'm not a big fan. 48 hours before treatment and another 24 after ... if I can find the willpower. Three days with just water and vitamins is a long, long time! I'll keep y'all posted. But I'm sure going to be a cheap drunk when it's my turn to belly up to the bar Wednesday...

    Ci vediamo, belle!

  • Colleenkelly
    Colleenkelly Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2013

    Got my drains out! Almost blacked out when he pulled them out. Got all dizzy, sweaty and nauseous. It was strange but he said it happens all the time. Getting pet scan on Friday and next Tuesday I am off to hospital for the brain Mri I requested, the heart scan test. What's it called? It starts with an M. And also they will put my port in that day. It is a lot of work getting ready to go to the bar. Speaking of bars, I am hoping I am feeling well enough for a girls night out this Saturday. One last hurrah before I start my treatments. Hope everyone is feeling well tonight.

  • YaYa5
    YaYa5 Member Posts: 667
    edited January 2013

    hello!  i just dropped in to let you guys know that i'm a little over a year out from chemo and radiation.  i had the same questions you are all asking and i found almost all my answers here on these forums.  my onco acted as if he'd never heard about the claritin for neulasta or some of the other things i did that i learned here.  i found that if you have a question, ask it here and you'll get the answer!  as they say, chemo isn't great, but it's doable.  i found that to be the perfect description for me.  all this to say that i'm on the other side of it now, and i'm doing great, and so will you!  i still have some chemo brain, but i'm 67, so don't know how much of it is age related.  ugh.

    i'm cheering all of you on ... you'll get through it and you'll do great! 

  • ablydec
    ablydec Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Ok, you guys can just forget I said that (about the Neulasta being "cool").  That was about as dumb as thinking labor pains are "kind of cool", when you're only at the very beginning!  Chalk it up to naivete, or "chemo brain".  ;)

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Ski girl 72 -I just friended u on Facebook !



    Love the video nancy posted !! What an inspiration !

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Thank u yaya 5 . We appreciate u veterans dropping in to help us stay positive ! ....

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Bryona - that is an interesting theory And study - will have to look Dr Longo

    My only caution to u would be watch for signs of hearburn - taking just vitamins and water could make your GI very acidic . I think the chemo drugs in general make our body more acidic ..,



    We're friends now on FB !!!

  • Nanc620
    Nanc620 Member Posts: 38
    edited January 2013

    Ciao Bellas!

    So much to write but my handy dandy notebook ( a shout to Blue's Clues from my kids Nick Jr. days!) is in the bedroom...sheesh, I guess I need to tie it to me.  I have lots of good stuff from my naturopath to share.  My BS app't went well today (I have a wee bit of an ol' lady crush on him...) and I'm at the bar on Wed. for a post lunch happy hour.   Too my first Claritin tonight just becuase I read Shoshann's last post ;-)  First 'roids in the A.M. and then....

    So, I love you all...so happy to "hook up" on Facebook with you!  If I can figure out how to link that inspiring video here I will...but I may need some techie help ;-)

    Love you to bits and back!

    Nanc

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    YaYa5 - thanks for the words of encouragement!  I recognize you from the archives of the Triple Positive thread.  Glad to hear you're doing well!

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Re: Fage Greek Yogurt - copied and pasted from their website (it is pasteurized

          Grade A PASTEURIZED Skimmed Milk, Live Active Yogurt Cultures (L. Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus, L. Acidophilus, Bifidus, L. Casei).
          ====
          From SherylB's link: 

    Do not eat or drink any raw milk or raw milk products, or any milk or milk product that has not been pasteurized, including cheese and yogurt made from unpasteurized milk.

  • kiwikid
    kiwikid Member Posts: 204
    edited January 2013

    Bryona I'm really interested in the benefits of fasting. I had also read that fasting was good for us during chemo and before my ex I was doing an alternate day fast, limiting my calories to 500 three days a week. I did a lot of research before I did that and there's a lot of people who say that living like that is more like how we used to live and it is a cancer fighting way of eating.

    I wonder if limiting calories, 500 a day is very few, would have the same effect. Fasting gets easier the more you do it, but the first one can be hard, and 72 hours is a long time!

    Please let me know how you go. I have my next chemo on Monday but its my mums birthday the day before and we are having a champagne brunch, so I won't be fasting till at least 18 hours before, but I'm thinking its probably a good idea.

    Here's a link for anyone interested http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/241518.php


    X

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Byron's~I too have heard great things about fasting before chemo, though for the life of me, I can't remember what I heard, just that its good.



    So, how many get chemo Friday besides me? It's AC #3 for me. I totally dread it!



    I have a feeling, when this is all over & done with, there will be some things we attribute to treatment that we won't be able to stand anymore. Whether its a food, drink, article of clothing, smell, or a place. I have DGF who had ovarian cancer in the 80's. she wore a particular perfume while going through treatment. She can't bear that scent anymore.



    Yaya~Thank you for stopping by to encourage the rest of us.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Bryona, I think that sounds facinating. I'm a huge proponent of clinical's, even if you are not able to participate why not "follow the leader".

  • NikkiLiz
    NikkiLiz Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2013

    Hey everyone- tomorrow is the big day. Tx#1. I've been taking Claritin since Monday and chugging fluids. And I'm chopping my hair off in a couple hours (better bring a hat bc it's freezing here) and My wigs came yesterday and I love them (probably wont be saying that in a few months)!

    I already have my script for zofran-should I take one before I go for my treatment or wait to see if I get naseaous?



    Kiwikid- you look cute in your picture! Hope my hair will be that cute!

    Bryona- I think we both start tomorrow. Let me know how your fasting goes bc I would be willing to give it a go too.



    Nikki

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited January 2013

    God luck to all those headed to the bar today. To those who just cut their hair or are about to cut their hair- I went for a bike ride the other day and was amazed hoe freakin cold my head was without all my hair!!!! Cover up out there if you are somewhere cold. BRRR...

    I am interested in the fasting thing. Bryona- thanks for being the guinea pig with this one. I'm not sure I could do it. I tend to have some sugar issues. I tried the Atkins diet once and made it 12 hours without carbs!! I am interested in the results though. Good luck!

    New member orientation at my local Guilda's Club today. Gotta find someplace so me and the kid can hang and he doesn't feel like he is the only kid with a mom who has BC....

    Happy tuesday ladies!

  • Colleenkelly
    Colleenkelly Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2013

    Good luck tomorrow Nikki. I know how nervous you must be to start. I am still almost two weeks from starting but I know the day before I will be extremely nervous. Just think the sooner you start the sooner you will be done. Let us know how it goes. I will be thinking about you. Hugs, Colleen

  • Colleenkelly
    Colleenkelly Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2013

    So I have seen you guys mention heartburn as a side effect of the chemo. I suffer from acid reflux disease and have been taking medication daily for about 12 years now. I just wonder if the medicine will still work on chemo. I sure hope so. It is bizarre that the medications I have been taking daily for years seem to be the ones they put you on for chemo. I take claritin daily for allergies, aciphex for heartburn and xanax and prosac for anxiety. Does anyone else suffer from anxiety and if so how has it been while on the chemo?

  • Colleenkelly
    Colleenkelly Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2013

    Nikki, did you just order your wigs on line? If so is there sizes or do you have to get measured or something?

  • karenneedshope
    karenneedshope Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2013

    Hi Colleen -You are not alone... I too have been treated for anxiety over the past few years and have found that this journey has really made that battle more intense. Mornings are the hardest for me - I try to remember to take a Xanax when I wake up - and that helps. I'm thinking of finding a therapist to talk to...and have been listening to some guided imagery cds to calm me. I need to talk to my onc to see about the emotional steriod crash that I seem to be experiencing on day two and three post chemo. That has been my worst side effect. Maybe there's something that can be done to help with that?

    Thinking of you - Karen

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Hi Colleen - I am prone to Acid relux as well but had not been on any medication for the past 5 years.  I experienced it so bad after my first chemo I had pain in my back between my shoulder blades.

    I am on Prevacid now - just 1 in the AM - but I woudld ask you MO about doubling your daily dose as the current amount may not be enough  . Or maybe there is something else that can be prescibed.  That was the worst side effect I had ( other than an infection caused by a popcorn kernal that got stuck in my gums ) .

    I too take Xanax but just .5 mg before bed.  I can tell it makes me calmer the next day.  But I plan to wean myself off of it this summer . 

    Regarding Wigs - I would recommend going into a shot to try them on - very hard to know how a style will look on you .  I cant believe it but my insurance actually covers the cost of a " cranial prosthesis "  as they call it. I will be buying another one pain for by them soon as I had already forked out the dough for one thinking they would problably not pay - well surprises like that are nice sometimes :)

  • Andrea84
    Andrea84 Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2013

    Hi!  I've only posted a few times on the boards, and I'm still reading all the posts in this board.  I'm a 28 year old bc patient that started chemo Jan 7.  I am having TAC 1x every 3 weeks for 6 treatments.  First one knocked me down.  I'm interested in reading everyones responses to their chemotherapy.   :)

  • Lauren15
    Lauren15 Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2013

    Has anyone looked into acupuncture to help with chemo SEs?
    I have someone looking into whether my insurance will cover it.  They're not cheap.

    When my son died, I went a few times, and it really helped me feel better, but that was more mind over matter than toxic cocktails.

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