January 2013 surgery

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  • wirdgirl118
    wirdgirl118 Member Posts: 231
    edited January 2013

    Kkuziel, the what-ifs are neutral, really they are. And the what-ifs are your best friend. Every warrior princess runs through the what-ifs for herself, for others, and the reason for that is so she is ready for whatever comes into play. Sure there is nervousness about the impact the what-ifs-that-become-real will have on herself and others. Courage is not the absence of fear, it is the mastery of fear and sometimes it is the determination to face the fear down. So yes, this gets better, because you find out how strong you are, and how determined you are to fight against this sneaky breast cancer.

  • peanutsgal
    peanutsgal Member Posts: 161
    edited January 2013

    Susan,

    I am so glad that you are having a manageable recovery. My heart aches for you. I remember when my son went away to college....it was one of the hardest things I had to do...let go and let him live his own life. I could not imagine dealing with those emotions along with all the emotions I am dealing with now with the mastectomies. You have taken the first step and reached out to a group of supportive ladies. Know that you are in my prayers and that we are here for you.



    Amy4978,

    I am relieved that you are having your cousin come in to help you. In the end, I think it was a wise decision. Young ones take up time and energy and with your cousin there you will be able to devote your all to your recovery so you can be back in full force sooner than you would have had you spread yourself too thin.



    Jojo,

    Congratulations on the good patho! Doing my happy dance for you!

  • Mirmirpanda
    Mirmirpanda Member Posts: 89
    edited January 2013

    Hello lovely ladies!!!



    Been a little MIA since my surgery on the 8th, but I gotta tell ya, I'm feeling GREAT!!! Been going through all of the new posts and it's just wonderful to read that everyone is doing so well and being so positive!!!



    Everything has been going so well. No pain, just itchy!!!! Ugh, the bandages are driving me nuts and I'm dreading having them removed! Cleaning the drain isn't as bad as I thought it would be, not much coming out anymore, almost clear. Appetite is normal, in fact I was absolutely starving as soon as I came out of recovery at the hospital and ate a huge meal and a whole lot of fruit :). Range of motion is good, shoulder and neck a bit sore from sleeping propped up on the sofa, really nothing to complain about. Not really taking pain meds, only got tramadol. Getting out, taking walks. The weather has been wonderful for this time of year. Ended up spoiling ourselves and bought a 50" plasma tv, an Xbox, an iPad mini and some video games. Also picked up a scent diffuser for the house with some calming healing oils, I love it! My friends have been so supportive, making us meals and helping out with the dogs and the baby. Hardest things are not being able to pick up Hazel. It makes me so so sad when she cries for mommy and I can't grab her. Gotta wait for Chris to pick her up and give her to me. I feel like I could pick her up, but was told nothing over 10lbs. I desperately want a shower. Baby wipes just aren't cutting it haha. Also I'm constipated :( it sucks. I've been taking stool softener, eating lots of fruit and fibre and staying hydrated but nothing has worked. Any suggestions?



    The waiting anxiety hasn't been as bad after surgery as it was before. I got the tumour out, the core of the disease. Now I wait for the pathology report. Praying for clean nodes, clean bone scan and really happy, positive results!!! Trying to stay as optimistic as possible. I just want this all to be over, I want my life back!!! Sigh, I know we all do.



    Sadly, I have postponed my wedding for a few years. Just can't get excited about it right now. I can't imagine myself walking down the aisle anymore. Thinking about it actually makes me sad. I'm also thinking about freezing some of my eggs. I'm scared that after years of battling cancer and taking tamoxifen, I won't be able to have another baby. We wanted to try for baby number 2 after our wedding this year. I wish adoption wasn't such a long, hard process. We actually have discussed adopting an older child, around Hazel's age, in 5 or so years. Anyone have experience with adoption?



    Thank you ladies. Thank you all for sharing your fears, your wisdom and your lives, for being so brave and helping navigate this journey. It gives me hope and I know it makes me stronger. I hope you are all doing well and finding peace and comfort.



  • Tamiami
    Tamiami Member Posts: 396
    edited January 2013

    Mirmirpanda~

    I took stool softeners every day starting 2 days preop and ate lots of fresh fruit, and 4 days post op still nothing...finially bought Senna at the drugstore and it worked in a day.  Good luck!

    Tami

  • Mirmirpanda
    Mirmirpanda Member Posts: 89
    edited January 2013

    Thanks Tami! I'm going to the drugstore!!! Mir.

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited January 2013

    Jebdra, the difference in hospital length of stay is probably due to the difference in health care systems in our two countries. Under Medicare and some private insurance plans in America the hospital receives a set amount of money for each diagnosis. If you go home early they make more money than if you stay longer. Needless to say long stays are not encouraged. I will be having a BMX without reconstruction and baring complications will be sent home the next morning. Patients are just taught to manage their own drains and hope for the best. If I had the view that you have from your hospital room I might be tempted to never go home and just think of the money that they would lose then!

  • Speedy4
    Speedy4 Member Posts: 136
    edited January 2013

    Mirmirpanda~so nice to hear you're doing so well! You sound like a strong, positive person which is probably why you will recover fast and be holding that little darling of yours very soon! :)

  • JRMH
    JRMH Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2013

    wirdgirl- I really like what you said about courage. It's exactly what I needed to hear right now. :)

    Mirmirpanda- I am so glad you are feeling great! :)

  • robinlee76
    robinlee76 Member Posts: 27
    edited January 2013

    I tried sleeping in the recliner and had a hard time getting my big ass up.Sealed  I had bought a 10" back wedge from Relax the Back before the surgery and it has worked great.  Being able to sleep in my own bed with my husband to hold my hand has made me feel so much better.  I do not have much pain just where the drains are coming out.  I have 4 and only 2 seem to be working well.  I called the doctor today to let him know they are not working and he said to call back Monday and maybe he will take 2 out.  So that was a plus to my day!!  So glad everyone else is having good recovery also. 

  • Scatsm
    Scatsm Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2013

    Thanks for all the support...I am feeling a bit better, less tearful. My sister leaves tomorrow and then I am on my own for the most part. My college age son does live nearby and pops in every day. I think as soon as I start doing normal things, like working and shopping, I will feel better. Seeing friends helps too!

    Amy- yup I guess it's best to let myself feel the feelings

    JRMH- thanks for the encouraging words

    peanutsgal - empty nesting is hard...I want to let go, but want to cling tight too.

    Hoped to hear about lymph nodes, but no word yesterday...

    Sending prayers and love to you all!!

    Susan

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2013

    Scatsm..Glad you are feeling better. It's so hard to be empty nesters. I have two sons who have left the nest for awhile and now we have our 23 back with us! Even though I did enjoy the alone time with DH, I love having my boys with me. They can live with me forever!



    Robin..I need to look at getting a back wedge. I have also seen a side sleeper pillow. Of course, I can't remember where. My surgery is coming up, so I better get with it. I'm glad your doing well.



    Mirmipanda.. You will feel different about your wedding before you know it. Give yourself time to heal and you will be dancing down that aisle. Hazel can be your flower girl!!



    Off to my recliner. So tired today. And I have so much to do with work and home. Kinda overwhelming. Bought a new wig today. Blonder and shorter. Makes my face fatter! This gets expensive! Insurance paid for the first one. They don't last very long as they get ratty.

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited January 2013

    Susan, one way of looking at the empty nest is that we have to let them fly so they can go out, find a mate and bring us back some grandchildren to fill our nest even fuller than it was before. On a less sentimental note I once saw a sign that said " Grandchildren are God's gift to you for not killing your children when they were teenagers." One of the biggest blessings about grandchildren is that they very quickly teach your children what amazing parents they had.

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2013

    Ok, this is a dumb vain question for all of you that had surgery already. My worry and I'm a worrier...probably why I have cancer.....is did they cover your bald head up before any of your family saw you in recovery? They have all seen me bald many times but I don't want them to see me like that right after surgery. I won't be looking my Sunday best and then with a bald head with one lone gray hair that has decided to sprout three inches while the rest is stubbly. Stupid, I know!!

  • Mirmirpanda
    Mirmirpanda Member Posts: 89
    edited January 2013

    Hopex3, I don't think that's stupid at all. Part of feeling good is being comfortable and confident. I would ask your recovery nurse before hand and see what they can do or what their policies may be. Maybe you can wear a light toque or something? I say whatever makes you happy is what you should get! Then again once surgery is said and done you may be so relieved you may not care :)

  • Nat23
    Nat23 Member Posts: 45
    edited January 2013

    Mir, I'm sorry to hear about postponing the wedding and possibility of not having a 2nd baby ;( Adoption is a pretty long process but it helps so many. I was adopted when I was 13 from Russia. My parents went through Nightlight Adoption Agency. Russian government has banned all Russian adoptions but nightlight uses a lot of different countries, kids all ages. My mom LOVEs to talk about about adoption...so if u ever have any questions let me know.



    Hopex3, I had the same concern. I did not want anyone to see me bald...not even doctors. They let me keep my wig on. 🌺



    This is why I love reading ur girls' experiences ;) it helps me see I'm not alone! U go through a lot if the same emotion and thought processing! Thank u!

  • BrandieMcAdams
    BrandieMcAdams Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2013

    Kkuziel: I was told for my lumpectomy that I should be down about a day and slowly back to normal.



    I've had a lumpectomy before, but I was a teenager and the fibroadenoma had become so large it ruptured through the skin as the surgeon was making th incision leaving a nasty scar. It was a very difficult recovery then. I think, in large part, due to it being a general surgeon and not a breast surgeon the excision site did not close well.



    I am working with a BS this time and am very confident that recovery will go so much smoother.



    I wanted to give you an honest answer, but I don't want to discourage you. Even after the first one I was able to do almost everything (had a hard time lifting my arms above my head to wash my hair for a few days after) and would have been able to manage a classroom, albeit not a very comfortable experience. Maybe plan a slide show or activities you can do from your desk so you don't have to work at the board, just in case?



    Again, I think the surgeon the first time around was in over his head (why he didn't realize it had gotten so large and taken preventative measure to prevent my skin from rupturing?) and I was just whiney teenager! Praying for an easy recovery for you!!

  • jebdra
    jebdra Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2013

    MMSS - you're probably right about the differences in medical care between countries.  My insurance pays the room rate for the hospital for as long as I'm here, so the longer they keep me, the more money they make!

    MirMir - great to hear you're feeling physically well.  I agree the post-op feeling is less intense and urgent than waiting for the op.  So sorry for your dilemma with the the wedding and the children.  Your situation makes me realise I have so much to be grateful for - I'm post-menopause, children grown, no real problems except for lumpie.  You younger ones have so much more to face than I, your courage makes me humble.

    Robin - it's interesting that you have better sleeping in the bed with a wedge than the recliner.  I have a recliner at home (in the store in NSW), and I can't image being comfortable sleeping in it.  Before I came into surgery, husband and I designed a board for under the mattress that will allow us to raise the bed head (stuffing things like duvets underneath to hold it up).  I'm hoping this will work like your wedge.  Like you, most of my pain is coming from the drains (damn things).  I'm very tempted to sneak out with the hospital bed!

    Susan - I'm sorry you're feeling so down . Sending {{hugs}} and loving care to you and I hope you hear about the nodes soon.

    Hopex - I don't think you're being silly or vain.  Appearance is important to us, and our morale and self-confidence helps us heal.  You do whatever you need to do to feel good.  Ask your nurses, I'm sure something could be arranged.

    Jennifer - you hold on to that courage of yours.  If you're feeling down - please accept some loving {{hugs}}

    I'm still in hospital, looking at my lovely view and getting very bored.  I'm feeling fine except for some pain around the drains.  I reacted badly to tramadol (nasty itchy hives after 2nd pill), so they've got me on anti-histamines and paracetamol. Not nearly as effective for the discomfort but I'm managing.

    Tomorrow I'm booked to go for a bone scan.  Does anybody know if they do these with drains still in?  I guess I'll ring them in the morning and ask.  I'm going to feel pretty silly driving halfway across town holding a drain bag.

    Sweet and healing dreams to all my January sisters and all those who have reached back and helped us.

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited January 2013

    Hope, I had to wear the surgical cap for surgery. I chose to be bald under the cap as my DH and daughter had seen me bald daily before so no worries for me. Not sure if you could wear a wig or not? I was told how "bad" I looked in recovery. Ha - no makeup, brows, and bald is plain scary anyway!



    For the lumpectomy recovery question, for me 4 days after surgery is what it took. I will work from home beginning tomorrow. I feel fine, just sore, bruised, and swollen in underarm and breast. If not for the option for working from home, I would certainly be able to go into the office (I do office work). Anything physical however would be different.

  • Scatsm
    Scatsm Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2013

    MMSS - thanks for making me smile!

    Hopex3 - I bet the recovery nurses will do anything you ask to make you feel more comfortable...the key is to ask!

    Jebdra -thanks for the healing thoughts.



    Maybe I'm weird, but I got rid of the wedge the second night and am now sleeping with my usual bolster and pillows. I can't lie on my side at all...it's much too painful.



    As the days are going by, I am seeing more bruising around the drains, but the pain is about the same. I still am draining about 100 ccs a day. I hope to get my drains out next Friday at my BS follow up.



    Sending healing thoughts to all!

    Susan



  • Lmimp64
    Lmimp64 Member Posts: 219
    edited January 2013

    Hi all. It sounds like everyone is recovering well. I'm still only hanging in there. I did not know about the swelling and bruising tht I have. I also have abdominal swelling that the dr says is normal. No place I try to sleep is comfortable. Every movement makes me feel like my chest and armpits are going to explode. Any angle I try results is more swelling toward that area. We saw a doc this am who says all looks good. I think my chest area is the ugliest thing i have ever seen. He says months before swelling and bruising are gone. I know I am depressed but how do I get thought this. My husband just wants me to rally and ignore the pain and get back to normal.

  • smethot
    smethot Member Posts: 161
    edited January 2013

    Had my pre-op appt with the surgeon Friday- plan is lx, ax node biopsy (level I & II) and she said 100% chemo for me.  I'm 40 with at least one (probably 2) positive nodes, small 1 cm lumpie- agressive.  She said no oncotype testing.  i told her i am young, strong, healthy, willing and able to throw everything i've got at this...doc agreed- for me, chemo is a GOOD thing.  KILL it NOW.  After lx & ax nodes are pulled next friday (yeah!) we agreed i no longer have cancer.  IT IS GONE!  And if i have any little rogue cells floating around, that's what the chemical and rad warfare are for...kill them for good and for always.  At my age, chemo and rads make sense...bring on the chemo!  Feeling happier after the appt, too.  Doc said i am positive, dealing with this head on and she sees no reason i can't destroy this.  She told me to go ahead and buy green bananas- i'll be around to enjoy them.  Laughing  Now we just wait for Friday...repeating the sentiment already expressed here...kick ass and chew bubblegum and baby, i am ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!!!

  • wirdgirl118
    wirdgirl118 Member Posts: 231
    edited January 2013

    Hi Mirmir! It sounds like a good idea to postpone the wedding, at least until you are yourself again, that way the wedding is not all jumbled in and around the breast cancer adventure.



    Susan, I have a feeling I will not be using the bed wedge for long either, as I have been practicing stuff like how would i want to lie down and how would I be able to get back up again - thanks Robin for your words about being able or not able to get OUT of the recliner lol - and so I have plan B lined up, a neck pillow that folks use to sleep on an airplane. Will I be using the neck pillow in a recliner or with the wedge, for as long as I use the wedge? Stay tuned for the news on that, I hope to post my progress about a day or two after I get home on the 16th!!

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited January 2013

    Looks like the weekend break is over and it is back to the surgery schedule with Chapter 4 and Wirdgirl up for tomorrow. Our love and prayers go with you as you add your contribution to our fast growing pile of discarded cancer cells. You go girls!

  • runner1987
    runner1987 Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2013

    Hello ladies, just checking in to let you know how my surgery went! I was so nervous the morning of but of course it was over before I knew it. When I came to I got the best news ever - MY LYMPH NODES WERE ALL CLEAR!!! I was so happy that I cried, and I was so nauseated from the anesthesia that crying made me throw up. But I didn't care - now that I've had my BMX I'm cancer-free! Chemo will be a prophylactic measure to make sure that it doesn't come back, EVER.

    The first night was a little rough, I was very sick from the meds, but my pain was well-controlled. Now, two days out, my pain is totally under control and I'm resting at home. The most uncomfortable thing is the drains. I have 4, and they pull and pinch a little when they're emptied.

    Cosmetically things looked even better than expected! I was able to keep my nipples and I woke up with the TEs filled to 80cc (my original breast volume was only 100cc so it looks almost the same). The plastic surgeon was very pleased and so am I.

    Overall, I'm so happy to be done and can't wait to have my TEs filled to their full 300cc capacity. :) 

    Good luck to all who will have their surgeries later this month! You will get through it just fine!

  • AnnBR
    AnnBR Member Posts: 853
    edited January 2013

    Runner1987, so glad you are doing well. I just read your blog and oh my goodness, it was delightful! Thank you for making me laugh and for seeing the big 'C' through the eyes of a 25 year old. You have an incredible gift. I hope others will take the time to read what you have written. It is brilliant. Thanks, Ann

  • Nat23
    Nat23 Member Posts: 45
    edited January 2013

    Great job runner1987! Well done. It's great that they were able to fill up ur TEa a little. I was hoping they would do that for me since I had a skin sparing MX. But no such luck 😕

    Good luck to chapter4 and wildgirl on the 15th ;) it'll be over in no time.

  • peanutsgal
    peanutsgal Member Posts: 161
    edited January 2013

    wirdgirl118 and chapter 4, you're up tomorrow and the day that seemed like forever getting here will soon be a distant memory. You will be in my thoughts and prayers tomorrow.



    Lmimp64,

    I am so sorry that you are having such bruising and swelling. I am also sorry that your husband wants you to ignore the pain and get back to normal. I know you know that is the worst possible thing you could do. It would only delay your healing and potentially set you up for chronic conditions down the road. Please take care of yourself get the rest you need and allow yourself time to heal!



    Runner1987,

    Congratulations on the clear nodes!!!!!!!!!!!! Great news!

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited January 2013

    Oops, guess who should look at the calendar before they post rather than afterwards. Chalk it up to all of us being Sooo anxious for this month to finally be over.

  • peanutsgal
    peanutsgal Member Posts: 161
    edited January 2013

    Simple case of follow the leader for me, MMSS! My days are really running together! Wirdgirl and chapter 4, you just get an extra day of prayer and well wishes from me ; )

  • JRMH
    JRMH Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2013

    Lmimp64- ((hugs)) I am sorry that things are rough right now. I am thinking of you and praying for you.

    runner1987- So glad that your surgery went well and that your nodes were clear!

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