Lorraine Day Method of Healing Breast Cancer
Have you used the Lorraine Day method of healing from breast cancer?
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I am reading and researching her right now.......
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after my diagnosis, and in my desperation I purchased Lorraine Day's DVD set. I've always been alternatively minded, and holistically health conscious, but she is really not realistic and she is opinionated to the point that it is a little frightening. She said that if you live with someone before your married, that could give you cancer, and if you aren't positive enough in your thinking, that will give you cancer. Praying will take your cancer away. that turned me off, implying that people don't survive cancer because they are not strong enough or positive enough, or don't believe in god enough. She said she thought mushrooms were of the devil because they lived in dark places, so although she went for a well balanced vegan diet, she had these weird predjudices about food. Very superstitious and overly religious in my opinion. I am glad she healed from her cancer, but I'm weary of her. Many don't believe that the growth on her chest was actually cancerous. It wasn't biopsied. Don't want to throw your post. others might have had good experiences. this was just mine. I felt it was responsible to warn.
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It's amazing what gets published these days - and God asked me to say this - lol!
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I saw a DVD of Lorraine Day. How do people listen to her? She came across as the worst kind evangelist. Then there is the lingering deal breaker that she treated herself without ever having a biopsy. Breasts can have all sorts of abcesses that are not breast cancer.
There are so many other therapies and clinicians out there that are credible--I don't get the attraction to Lorraine Day.
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Light and Natty, thanks for posting. You just saved me some time
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My dad got the tapes back in 2004. I do think there is value in the diet. Dad makes carrot juice for me every day. I don't remember a lot about it but I think she says don't eat anything from a box or can. I try to follow that and never use the microwave anymore. She also says to get sun every day which also makes sense. I would just ignore the parts you don't agree with. I certainly don't disagree with religion but I can follow the other things and sort of blow that off. A lot of people pray for me and I believe that helps too, but that's just me. I recently went to her website and there's a picture of her there. I must say she looks fantastic and I don't think she even had any makeup on.
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I have known Dr. Day for years. To my understanding she did have a biopsy from Loma Linda Hospital. She did and still does beat Cancer everyday by following The Plan.
Now I don't have Cancer so far as I know, but what I can tell you is that this makes a lot of sense. She continues to flood her body with the best nutrients possible. She drinks 8oz of Greens every other hour, then a Carrot Apple mixture every other hour and then 8oz of distilled water every hour. She is taking the highest quality nutrition in a medicinal fashion. As you have stated; praying and following GOD specifically helps you in the following way; if you concentrate on good things, forgive yourself and others of wrongs, and honor The Creator and His design for the way way your body and life should operate on an increasingly minute scale, you cannot help but see remarkable changes. Eliminating all stress from your life and bringing in THE LIGHT will raise the polarity of your cells and body and when you have Cancer you need every fighting chance on your side. GOD's Blessing notwithstanding.
You are right; she looks terrific! 76, no aches, pains or medications. As productive now as ever. She is simply one of the smartest and wisest people I have come across. Why? Because; a lot of people know what they should do; she Does It!
I am sorry to hear of your Trials. They are intended that you would improve the quality of your life. I cannot ask you to just submit to The Creator's plan and see if it makes you feel better... Dr. Day is a strong woman for GOD.
Please do not take offense to anything I have said. I just really hope that you get better.
David
P.S. A really neat example of how words and spirit effect us on a minute way is a study done by Dr. Emoto on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33IiYb8htHk If we are mostly water, than how do you suppose this effects us?
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Well I'll be darned, SoCal, if I'd only known that I needed to pray more and be more positive, and I wouldn't have gotten cancer! Thank you so much for illuminating this fact for me! It's a shame that I wasn't as natural as I should have been, and too stressed out, so that God gave me cancer, but I will submit now.
The esteemed Ms. Day drinks the nutritional potions every hour, right? While I'm submitting to God's great plan as you say is necessary to avoid cancer, should I stay up all night to drink these miraculous potions as well? Just want to make sure I'm doing everything that God wants me to do.
Blessings SoCal!
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You know, digger, it would be nice if you occasionally made a comment on BCO that wasn't either sarcastic or snarky. I have never read anything different from you. You can disagree by being civil, blocking the alt. forum from view or punching a punch bag in your own home. Maybe "alternatives" in terms of behavior are worth considering....
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Snarky or not, I agree with Digger. Praying will not cure cancer, nor keep it from appearing. Nor will "eliminating all the stress from your life."
Those of us with cancer get very tired of hearing people without cancer telling us that it's our fault because we didn't follow God's plan. I'm sure there are some good diet practices in her method, but it's very hard to take someone seriously who basically wants us to believe in the supernatural in order to "cure" our disease.
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Ah, SoCal, what you have said was put so offensively that I almost had a stroke from anger. Nicely done. Sheesh.
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Athena,
I'm sorry you feel that way. Perhaps another "alternative" would be to put me on your ignore list...
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SoCal, how did you come about to defend this quackery in your very first post on this message board?
And I ask this as a believer in God. My Bible, however, speaks a lot about suffering and sacrifice, as well as faith in being healed. Our ways are not God's ways, and, no, I don't think He gave me cancer because I wasn't positive enough or didn't drink enough carrot juice. In fact, I hate carrot juice and see no reason to introduce that kind of negative experience in my life until I see actual medical studies!
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I'm aghast as to how anyone can take socal's post seriously enough to take offence....you are giving him too much importance.
Interestingly, the NIH does list prayer as alternative therapy, though. This is the alternative forum. So strictly speaking, SoCal is speaking within the tenets of alternative medicine.
Me, I'm an atheist and a believer in science. I happen to think that is all bumkum. On the other hand, I don't have the answer either. When we are dealing with a disease that has no cure and whose treatments can themselves kill or irreversibly maim, you can't really blame some alties for, shall we say, stretching the limits of common sense.
I could understand this hue and cry if cancer were curable. Polio has a vaccine. Infections can be cured by antibiotics. A brken leg can be mended. We've seen this for decades. there are specific things medicine can do and the results are there.
But breast cancer? Surgery may cure it in some cases. Other than thatm, we are mired in uncertainty. And yet so many of us cling to a narrow way of viewing this as though there were no questions unanswered about cancer. I have NEVER been confronted by such orthodoxy and certainty over such an uncertain illness.
Boggles the mind every single time.
I suppose it shows how little we BC patients have in common.
And yet another reason why one of the baby boomer attitudes I most love to hate is the one that says "unless you have walked in my shoes you can't know how I feel" (paraphrased).
Actually, I have NO IDEA what it is like to be diagnosed with stage II breast cancer and NO idea what it is like to undergo treatment. I don't.
I only know what it's like for me. I can't even begin to identify with many others who have those supercifial characteristics in common.
Just a roundabout way of saying that this is as diverse a group as any other and that we should respect that.
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Okay, if I read David's post correctly, he says at the end of this message that "I am sorry to hear of your Trials. They are intended that you would improve the quality of your life."
I apologize if I sound too snarky for anyone, but I'm more than a little bit offended that David states that the reason I had my cancer is so that it should improve my quality of life. Um, hate to burst anyone's bubble and sound too negative (remember, he says a bad attitude causes cancer too, so I should really be careful), but the loss of a breast didn't really improve my quality of life.
I do appreciate David (who, interestingly, hasn't had cancer) joining BCO explicity to enlighten us of how we should be grateful for our cancer and should now follow the words of the Lord unless we want to have cancer again. Perhaps you should post the same message on other cancer boards, David?
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Digger, I read it as a belief system. It's prayer after all. So I read that David believes this to be true about cancer.
But I don't believe what he does so therefore I can't take him seriously enough to be offended.
It would be another thing --and I would be offended-- if he had said: "Athena, I know for a fact that you gave yourself cancer because you didn't pray."
Scratch that. I think I'd burst out laughing!

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Hi all,
Just popping in here to let you know SoCal has been banned, after admitting to not being a cancer patient. Please don't allow his post to entice a rumble among the peace we've been enjoying here on the boards

Thank you for your help in keeping things peaceful!
--Your Mods
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"I only know what it's like for me". Amen Athena! ( And I say that as a fellow atheist.)
From the other's comments, it sounds like Ms. Day is a bit "out there". Although I think there's nothing wrong with advocating healthier living through diet and exercise.... it's when I start hearing you HAVE to take this (vitamin, shake, magnet, etc) and HAVE to avoid this (food, electronic, thought, etc) is when it sounds more "alarmist" to me, and less helpful/believable.
Regarding prayer. After I had my surgery/oncotype test, and found out no lymph nodes were involved and I didn't need chemo - a very religious woman (my sister's mother in law) tells me that I had a good outcome because she put me in her "prayer group" that "goes all the way up to the Pope". Uh...okay, fine, that's nice. But then she said, "And it's great because your "Pope Prayer" lasts for 4 years". Huh? There is a timetable for prayers? Do I need to look over my shoulder after year 3? Or can I resubscribe?
Just the weirdest thing I'd ever heard.
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