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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Michelle, great to see you back. I was getting worried. So, new wheels? At least new for you? Cool!



    Michellev, welcome. I have 2 more ACs. I'm so looking forward to getting them in my rearview mirror.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Sickofpink
    Sickofpink Member Posts: 190
    edited January 2013

    Everybody sounds so brave despite all this suffering. Seems like we're getting used to it just as we spy the exit. I haven't posted because of the taxiTEAR problem - better, but still hard to focus, - Megan, thanks for the encouragement. I'm trying to add interactive website stuff for What a Mother Knows and publisher wants blogging but I can barely write emails, so..(btw, if I get to make final changes before the May release, I will thank all my bc pals in the acknowledgements) And the chemo brain! Argh - I keep scrolling up to get your names right and forget by the time I get back to this posting box! So if I forget anyone it's not for lack of good wishes.

    Luvebugs, oh no! I hope you kick that pneumonia and can get that last chemo done. Michelle, congrats on the wheels - a diff kind of stress - and welcome to the other Michelle. Keetmom, I can't imagine staying awake on all that benedryl, so good luck with the hives. TxJunebugs, my neuropathy seems to be lessening, but may return  - Loafer, it started on tips of fingers then toes, knuckles are stiff, but who knows? Tastebuds coming back too - I'm eating everything in sight now, carbs especially. Thanls for the reminder about Claritin. And yes, exercise does help...but after a few hours, bam, pooped.

     You Buckeye gals, I can picture those drives since I'm from Columbus and fingers are crossed that the roads are not icy.

    Thursday is my halfway point with #4 of 6 more of the TCH chemos to go...Busy week for many of us, godspeed...

    xo

  • Loafer
    Loafer Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2013

    Hey ladies - finished final chemo on Friday and experienced serious constipation. Spent four miserable days following the constipation protocol. Almost needed an enema today - as painful as child birth - horrible. This symptom slowly built up with each treatment and I wasn't paying attention. Onc said its the premed nausea medicine causing it. My advice is to pay close attention to your body and don't wait too long.





    On a positive note, the Claritin worked like a charm after this most recent neulesta shot. No immobilizing bone pain - this is a miracle drug - thanks for the recommendation!!



    Good luck to all you brave ladies suffering SLs and pneumonia! My thoughts and hugs are with you all!!!

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    So glad you are finished chemo loafer - sorry you had to deal with the constipation but now that that's over, isn't it time for the nasty diarrhea?  Does it ever end....

    Don't have the results of my xray yet but I don't think I have pneumonia - I think it's more bronchial - wait and see

    Girls I have a QUESTION- do you think I'm being overly cautious.  Most of us are germaphobics these days but:

    1.  I don't encourage visitors because I worry that they are sick and also that I may want to sleep, don't want to have to entertain anyone, don't want to have to put on a happy face when I feel like shit!!!Yell

    2.  I need to exercise badly, I was like pudding - now I'm more like tapioca!!!  Cry OK, so you had your laugh... I have trouble using my arms because of the surgery on one side and that freaking port on the other, when I stretch, bend or lift I still feel that it's going to come through my skin,, Can't wait to get this sucker out!

    3.  Going out - I don't and I'm so bored walking around my house.  Sometimes I just need to get out but when I get there I just want to come home because I'm tired. 

    What are you girls doing?  Some of you have jobs, some have young children, some are home like me - how do you feel in general - most have some SE's but do you have "a life"? Don't forget I'm 65 and no spring chicken, in fact my spring has sprung!!!Tongue Out  I guess it's just my bitch and moan day because I'm upset that my last chemo for today had to be postponed...Just let me vent = who else would listen,,thank you girlsSmile

  • politicomama
    politicomama Member Posts: 187
    edited January 2013

    Luv, I try to have a life when I feel like it.  I do have young kids and work, so some of it is forced. 

    Have you thought about asking for a PT consult?  That may help in the excercise department.  I had/have a cord in my cancer side, and PT has done me a world of good.  Also I just try to take little walks.  We live close to the school so when we are not snow covered we make a point to walk to and from school.  It's only a block but it is better than nothing.  Now that I have my energy back, a little I have been thinking about trying yoga.  Several of my survivor friends of all ages really enjoy it.

    In regards to vistors, my friends made me a sign for the front door that is two sided.  One says we are okay for company, the other politely says no.   It's been helpful. 

    I try to get out if I feel like it.  Saturday for example we went furniture shopping and to Sam's to get diapers.  I was pooped when we got home, but it was also good to get out. 

    With that said the baby has the tummy bug.  Nothing worse than a kid throwing up that isn't old enough to understand.  We have used every sheet, towel, and recieving blanket we own to catch puke.  Now I am freaked that I am going to get it.  It only seems to be lasting two days with others we have known.  He has kept a little pedialyte down and is napping, so hopefully the worst is over.  I have a call into the MO's office out of concern of what to do if I get it.  Hubby had a huge meeting this morning so staying home wasn't really in the cards.  My dad took the big girl to school and is picking her up.

    Sickofpink, roads are clear here and the snow is slowly starting to melt.  It's supposed to be 60 on Friday, it was 15 went I got up this morning. 

    Happy for those of you that are finishing up!

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    politico mom I finally realized why I'm so depressed - I miss my 5 Luvbugs!!!!  My house is too quiet, I have no childrens laughter and I'm not cooking meals for the family..This is boring.....

    2 of my grandchildren andmy daughter in law have the same bug as your baby - throwing up!! One more reason not to have them over.....I also have a sign for the door for my 7-12 day lows..

    Guess I don't have pneumonia after all because I think the doc would have called me right away...So that's a good thing...OK chat later

    Tricia

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited January 2013

    I'll join you in the bitch and moan day.  The SEs on this round have really done me in.  Headachy, stomachache, leg pain, extremely tired. I didn't have problems with my port until this round either.  Now, it's really pronounced and the incision is mildly infected.  Sorry ladies, but I'm have a this totally sucks kind of day...

    It's our grandson Ezra's 4th birthday and I'm a little concerned about going over to see him.  Ezra has had two open heart surgeries and will be going for his third, so each birthday is so precious to us, yet I really cannot afford to get sick.

  • MichelleV
    MichelleV Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2013

    Paula--thanks for the welcome!  I was so happy to get the AC done and over with.  The last one I was dreading but at least that part is over.  Hopefully tomorrow goes well with the taxol.  I was extremely nervous with my first one but it wasn't so bad.  I'm kind of afraid of the cumulative affect over the 12 weeks. 

    I find it helps to get out of the house.  Sometimes I don't feel like it but my husband will make me and I always feel better after going.  I work from home so I'm always at home and am a homebody.  I have to push myself to get out when I feel up to it.   

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited January 2013

    Hi Michelle ~ Welcome.  I work from home too unless I'm traveling.  It's so nice to have someone push us out of the house. 

  • politicomama
    politicomama Member Posts: 187
    edited January 2013

    Michelle, welcome.  I teach from home.  What do you do.  It is easy to become a homebody when you spend so much time in!

  • MichelleV
    MichelleV Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2013

    Thanks Mary. I'm glad I found this website. Nice to have people that understand what I'm going through! Yes,I definitely need to be pushed out the door!

  • MichelleV
    MichelleV Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2013

    I do medical transcription from home. I'm self employed. Yes, I find myself working in my pjs!!

  • Megan2
    Megan2 Member Posts: 70
    edited January 2013

    ok - embarassing question. For all those who have been having burning below... I had some mild itchiness yesterday, but today, am finding it is quite painful on urination. It doesn't feel at like a bladder infection. Has this happened to anyone? I am at day 15 post treatment, so doesn't seem like it would be the chemo irritating my system upon departure... I won't see the doctor til my chemo next Wed, so am not sure if I should make the long distance call to his office and ask one of his nurses (which hasn't been very useful in the past), leave it alone, or go to a local clinic here...  advice?  

    Politicomom - we used to regularly get those gastrointestinal flus in Canada this time of year and of course, we would always get them from looking after the kids. They are the worst with little kids who can't aim their vomit into a bucket or toilet - my sympathies!!! The news seems full of stories about the high numbers of norovirus cases this year. One article referred to a study showing only bleach can kill them - alcohol based products don't work that well as a preventative measure. Good luck at avoiding this - its the last thing you need on top of chemo.

    Maryah - i hope the infection around your port clears up soon. That sounds painful.

    5luvbugs, so glad to hear it likely isn't pneumonial. Are you feeling any better?


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    MeganB~ about 12 days or so after my first treatment I had a mild itchiness down there. On the outside, so I didn't think it was a yeast infection. I started using aloe baby wipes after each urination and it cleared up within a couple days. I thought maybe it was from the constant peeing when steroids were leaving my system, but I didn't get it for several days after the steroids waved bye bye.



    Tricia~I'm so glad it doesn't appear to be pneumonia. I hope you're feeling much better today and regaining your strength. I know you miss those babies.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Loafer
    Loafer Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2013

    To all of you ladies working from home - I am jealous! I have been able to work a couple of days from home after my chemo treatments to eliminate my 2 hour commute and it's the only benefit of chemo! Today is my 3rd and final day I can pull this off and I love working in sweats and pink slippers!!!



    I'm scheduled to go on a business trip to Florida in two weeks and very nervous about this flu epidemic. I did successfully go on a trip between #2 and 3 with no problems. Anyone else travel during chemo?



    Megan - I haven't had painful urination, but I have had painful sex! I attribute all of this to chemo and chemo pause. I've been thrust into menopause with constant hot/night sweats. Hoping this subsides soon!



    Welcome to our new friends and hugs to all of you suffering SEs. May they subside shortly.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Loafer~Check out the thread for the SOLUTION TO PAINFUL INTERCOURSE.



    I'll bump it for you right now, so it will be at the top of the Active Topics List.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • MichelleV
    MichelleV Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2013

    I did suffer terrible itching down there after my second AC treatment.  It was horrible.  And burning on the outside when I urinated.  I asked the nurse and she had me use Boudreaux butt paste on it.  I used it over the weekend and it cleared up.  I still get some itching occasionally.

  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited January 2013

    Ugh. Can't believe this time next week I'll be feeling crap again. Why do we willingly do this to ourselves?! Well, of course I know why but it's so annoying.



    I have TC #4 of 6 on Friday. Went to see my onc today for pre-chemo appointment. My blood counts are fine so all set for Friday. I asked her today how much benefit 6 treatments will give me over just 4. Her reply: 2-3%! I remember her saying it was minimal at the beginning but I thought it'd be more than that! I now keep wondering whether an extra 2 cycles is worth it, but deep down I know I'll take them. The way I see it, there'll either be cancer cells left after 4 cycles or there won't and if there is, I need to zap them. The little bastards won't care what the stats were. It just seems a lot to go through for 'minimal' benefit.



    She is going to refer me to a psychologist to talk to to help me get over the constant worry of a recurrence and help me get on with my life. I don't see how they can help me do that but I suppose it's worth a try...



    Starting on the demon dexamethasone tomorrow - YUK.

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited January 2013

    I understand Michelle.  After this last cycle, my 3rd and next to last, I started to fall apart and worry.  What if 4 wasn't enough?  Why not 6?  Why the chemo regimine of TC and not another?  What if there is one BCsoldier more hiding someplace getting ready to amass an army and start a full out assault on my liver, bones, etc.?  I know my fears, while not groundless, should not be as major a worry as they are, I think because we lose our safety net of constant visits, procedures, chemo, etc. we feel we'll be going at it alone.

    The chemo nurse is setting me up with a support group called something like Life after Treatment or something like that.  This group specifically deals with these fears.  

    Hugs to you!

  • politicomama
    politicomama Member Posts: 187
    edited January 2013

    The itch.... glad someone posted about it.  Yes, and then it was almost like I was gaulded and then it peeled.  All on the outside. Gross, Sorry.  At first I was using Gold Bond, but then I switch to Anti Monkey Butt Cream as that is what we use on the baby.   It is still dry, but not nearly as itchy. 

    And can I just vent for a second....  now hubby has the stomach flu.  The daughter had a stomach ache when I left her at her grandparents.  Baby is better... puke and fever free for 24 hours now.  

    I am so worried about getting this.  Not so much about having it, but the damn fever er rule.  I feel like I may as well lick the floor on the way into the ER.  The place is a germ factory.  I mean if I need to I will, but man.  

    Vent over.  

    Luv, glad it wasn't pneumonia!

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    I hear you girls, I'm getting "scared" too.  4th chemo was delayed due to a cold, will finish next week but I am worried what if there are cells floating around, what if I really do feel a new lump, what if I made a mistake, what if it comes back, tooooo many "what if's" got to stop this worrying!!! I will be getting radiation in 3 weeks and now I don't want it because "what if" it comes back and then they can't do radiation again..My boob will be hard and it will shrink - this sucks but we are still kicking....Let's kick and stick together even after we are finished chemo.  I already see lots of girls moved on but we have to have a spot to go so let's keep this board active:

    Starting chemo November 2012 (in forum Chemotherapy - Before, During and After)and if we go to a new place let's post it here so we can follow each other - we are a team....

    As for the burning "down below" I always find that it happens after every chemo and I get relief by filling a small squirt bottle with about 1 tbsp of baking soda and 8 oz warm water, shake it up and spritz it on yourself front and back...You should get some relieve

    Have a good night everyone ...Kiss

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    Politico my son's family is running the same course as you..now it's going through all 5 of them...Lot's of puking at that house = No one better show up at my door..!!!

  • milkyway2
    milkyway2 Member Posts: 259
    edited January 2013

    Tommorrow i going for my 3 cheamo ready to feel crapy for 10 days today i went for groceries.cooking.made lunch for kids have to.leave 6.45 pm to toronto downtown. Cancer has changed my life my activities life would have been more constructive

    Good night ladies

  • Elcee54
    Elcee54 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2013

    Hi Everyone,

    I started chemo on Nov 13th but just found this forum.  I was diagnosed with ER+, PR-, HER2- ILC and took letrazole to postpone surgery until after my daughter's wedding in August.  I had a second mastectomy (first 14 years ago for extensive DCIS) and bi-lateral expanders in early September.  When my brother was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer last year, I did a lot of research and have been working with a nutritional consulting group, Nutritional Solutions, on diet and supplements.  They base all of their recommendations on research, your blood work, your cancer, your therapies.  The amount of material they send is a bit overwhelming (I couldn't look at it for days), but their consults are amazing and I've been able to incorporate many things over time.  I ate well to begin with, but have made major changes in my diet to make sure  that it is anti-cancer: anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant, anti-angiogenisis, no sugar of any kind, no white flours, mostly organic, no processed foods, just a bit of organic chicken, high in protein since chemo can waste your muscles (I use a high quality whey powder that I add to my morning hot oat bran with ground flax and blueberries).  I wasn't sure how my onc would feel about my taking supplements, but I do take Vit D (high doses), omega 3, zinc, selenium, l-glutamine, astragulus (a Chinese herb - my decision - onc doesn't like herbs), and a great product called Greens First (15 fruits and veggies and many other super foods and probiotics in a tasty green drink).  She didn't want me to take Vit C and E since they are highly anti-oxidant and the research on anti-oxidants and chemo suggests problems.  These nutritionists have a slightly different take on it, but I decided to try to get more food-based vitamin C and E and forgo the supplements.  (I would never, never take supplements on my own without being under the care of qualified nutritionist who has lots of experience with cancer patients -there's too much you can do to really hurt yourself) I also see an acupunturist once a week and he alternates between a stomach treatment (I dont' have a great stomach and have some acid reflux) and an energy treatment.  He is starting me on high doses of Acetyl l-Carnitine to try to help avoid neuropathy.  I try to walk every day and do gentle workouts with a trainer once or twice a week for balance, strength and stability.  I'm also in  great place mentally, which also helps - my theme song is "Put on a Happy Face" for those mornings when I just want to cry and so I sing it at the top of my lungs in front of the mirror, dancing (my kids think I'm nuts), watch funny movies and laugh a lot with my girls.  I also see a great therapist.

    So why the long story?  I have already had four rounds of AC with a shot of Neulastim a day after each and aside from being more tired, having chemo brain (but less when I get more sleep) and losing most of my hair (I live overseas and have never heard of Cold Caps) I have had no side effects.  I do take Prilosec twice a day for my acid reflux but have had no nausea (well just a bit but an acupuncture needle in my ear did away with that) or other stomach problems, no pain except for a bit of back pain with the Neulastim which didn't need pain meds, some early attempts at mouth sores that I helped to ward off with salt water and brushing after every meal and an herbal mouth rinse that my acupunturist gave me. I work with three oncologists and all are amazed at how I'm doing but none want to read the nutritional materials I have.  Too bad, I'm convinced that everything I'm doing (plus I'm sure some good genes) are really helping me.

    I just started my four rounds of mega Taxol this week and yesterday when my hands got red, swollen and the skin was painful in places and rough I decided that finding a forum and looking for others who have had this issue might be good for me. And for me to share what's gone right with me.  I'm very nervous about getting permanent neuropathy - I think that's been my biggest worry all along.  And I pray that this isn't starting to happen after my first Taxol treatment.  The onc said if it happened it probably would start after the third treatment and that they might have to put me on a different form of Taxol which causes a more dramatic hair loss (just learned in this forum that it could be permanent!) would like to know what others are doing to avoid this problem.

    Good luck to everyone and what you are all going through.  I have not been able to closely follow all of the threads on the 50 pages, but I can see that we are all just trying to cope with the situations we find ourselves in, offering support and advice and there is nothing more important than knowing you are not alone.

    For those trying to cope alone (I'm also divorced but my kids are young adults), I found the Lotsa Helping Hands website very useful.  I have friends who accompany me to chemo in shifts (some take a few hours off of work once a month or so), friends that walk with me, friends who cook for me.  My kids are terrific but it's just too much for them to do everything.  Rally  your friends to help  you.  This website let's you organize everything!

    Blessings to all,  Elcee

  • Elcee54
    Elcee54 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2013

    If  you are taking B6, try to get the B6 that is called P-5-P.  It is absorbed the best.

  • Elcee54
    Elcee54 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2013

    for those with taste issues, a zinc supplement may help.  I take 50 mg 2X/day with food in the morning and evening but I won't recommend an amount.  I do this under consult with onco-nutritionists. 

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    Welcome Elcee - your going to love this group... I began reading your post and see that you have done your homework.  I have to cut this post short because I have a dr appt in 45 minutes but I will be back to finish reading.., so hang in there girl..and once again welcome.

  • keetmom
    keetmom Member Posts: 432
    edited January 2013

    I am SO tired today..the city is coming in to reassess our house today and my house is a  mess....think I should answer the door with out my hat on so the guy feels sorry for me and looks past the mess! 

    I did do grocery shopping this morning by myself for the first time since surgery...it was tough and Im sure I forgot a bunch as I am walking around in a fog...but it is done and now I sit for a while!

  • Dakota212
    Dakota212 Member Posts: 1,153
    edited January 2013

    Good luck tomorrow Michelle 😄

  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited January 2013

    Thank you!



    Got a call today with an appointment to see the clinical psychologist. Seeing them Monday. I don't know if I want to go now, just can't be bothered and I can't see how they can help. It's normal to worry about prognosis and recurrence surely and only hope and time will lessen that. Well, I might give it a go and see I get on on Monday...



    How's everyone doing today?

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