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  • aic
    aic Member Posts: 417
    edited January 2013

    Finished chemo Monday! Hope you are feeling ok, jojo. Amy and Mariposa, love your new photos.

  • whenlifegivesyoulemons
    whenlifegivesyoulemons Member Posts: 184
    edited January 2013

    Cheerio, Kids&labs, and Aic - Congrats on your chemo finale!

    Friday's my last day, and I'm wondering how or whether I'll mark the "occasion".  What have you all done to celebrate the end of chemo?  

  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Cheerio & kidsandlabs - WooooWhooo!  Congrats on your last treatment!  Ring that bell girls!!!

    Huugs : )))

  • Cherioo
    Cherioo Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2013

    Weenlife I rang that bell and said thank ya Jesus I am done. All the nurses came and hugged me . I then went to the other patients and talked with them to give encouragement to all that have just started this journey . I am going to eat ice-cream to celebrate. Man, I have craved junk food. I am not a big ice-cream eater but I am craving coffee (coldstone) .



    Amy , I go Friday to get fitted for rads and Monday meet with my PS reg expanders. I know when I had them put in on Aug he said three to six months after rads. My RO thinks they have streched nice and I should be good to go in 3 months . I am crossing fingers . After the exchange then I will have two more surgeries . New nipples will be the last part. I will let ya know what happens when I see him

  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Amy & Mariposa - What beautiful pictures!  I have a couple that my DH took of my (on the cell phone).  I haven't had the courage to take 'real' pictures of myself with no hair.  I commend you for wearing it so proudly.

    Hugs : )))

  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Mariposa - regarding lunch ... I suggest you do what you are comfortable with; not what you think you should do.  I was faced with similar circumstances and chose not to visit.  They understood and it relieved the stress I was having about it.  Utilize this time for you.  Once you are back to work, things will fall into place. 

    Hugs : ))) 

  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Cocobean - Hang in there with the SEs.  I am approx. 3 weeks PFC and I too am experiencing what you are going through.  At times, it is really frustrating!  Our bodies have gone through so much; we need to give ourselves a break.  The SEs are cumulative, so it makes sense that the last one was so tough.  When I told my MO that I thought I'd snap right back after the last treatment, she just smiled and then started to explain.  I was so upset.  We will get stronger - we will get better.  Take it (literally) one step at at time.  The key is to keep moving.  Even if, for right now, it's very slow movement.  Before I put my feet on the ground when I get out of bed in the morning, I take a few minutes to stretch my legs and rotate my ankles.  It seems to help me get grounded so I can keep moving.  I long for the days to zip around the house to take care of what I need to.  Now all you hear when I walk by is the slow shuffle of my slippers on the tile...it makes me think of the song from the group LMAO - the chorus - "Everyday I'm shuffling."  It makes me smile.

    Hugs : )))

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited January 2013

    Aic, congrats!



    Love the pic Mariposa!



    Faith, I am shuffling along with you. Day 2 after surgery was tougher, fever and soreness kicked in. I keep telling myself I just finished chemo 4 weeks ago so don't expect to snap back as quickly. That is the nature of the journey we share - just when we start to feel normal again, we get knocked down. Thankful I have this group to pick me up again.

  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Regarding surgery ... Toastiecat, you have some really good suggestions.  I remember not being able to open my Rx bottles.  My DH was home most of the time and helped me out.  When he traveled, we ended up putting my Rx in small plastic containers.  I like the pill organizer much better.

    These are some of the things I did to prepare:

    I purchased a grabber/reacher prior to surgery.  I found mine in Office Depot.  It helped if I needed to reach for something (light items) on the floor or up in the pantry/kitchen cabinet.  You will have limited movement with your arms.

    I moved items that I knew I'd be using frequently down to the kitchen counter top.  I also bought some paper plates and plastic cups.  Loading the dishwasher or washing dishes was not too easy in the beginning.  Clean up was a breeze!

    If I knew I was going to home alone during the day or alone due to DH traveling, I asked him to open the gallon of milk for me or the apple juice, etc.  Opening these items was difficult for me.  I also asked him to pour some of these liquids into small containers so I could lift them.  It worked out well.

    He also went grocery shopping and had things in place for me if he was going out of town.  Driving was difficulty for me in the beginning (I could not move the gear shift up and down; it is on the steering column).  We prepared meals together and put them in the freezer.  It made the preparation of dinner so much easier too.

    I bought some button down shirts, tank tops and house coats - all a size larger.  It was awhile before I could lift my arms over my head and put a (tee) shirt on or put on one of my blouses.  The larger size allows you more room and makes it much easier.  The 'house coats' had snaps down the front.  Going to the restroom was so much easier.  No need to deal with slacks or shorts.  The larger size made it so much easier when getting dressed. 

    I asked the lady in charge of our center's support group, for arm pillows.  It really helped to have these small pillows support my arms.  I still use them today.

    Constipation is a big SE with the pain killers.  Get in front of it!  I had a terrible time and it put extra stress on my body.  Colase or Senekot are good to keep on hand.  Start taking a stool softener right away.  If no BM in 2 days, take a laxative!  Check with your MO first if you are thinking about taking a suppository - it may cause problems for you (due to treatment).  Our membranes are so sensitive; MO told me a suppository could tear the lining and cause big problems. 

    I had four drains in for two weeks.  PS told me not to shower (sponge bath only) due to the risk of infection.  That was fun!  Just be sure to ask your PS what he/she recommends.

    I developed a terrible rash under one of my expanders.  PS told me to keep the area dry and use baby powder if need be.  I was real careful to keep the area dry and still developed this terrible rash - so much so, my skin opened a bit and it was bleeding.  I now use baby powder all the time.  Cornstarch may work too.  I'd rather use that and will be asking him about it at the end of this month.

    The expanders are not pleasant.  But you do get used to them after awhile.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel.

    I hope this is helpful.

    Hugs : )))

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited January 2013

    Toastiecat... I take 5000mg perday then I read the back and freakex out cause it said it contained soy.... And soy is a no no since it bad for estrogen positive. But my BS said it was perfectly okay and we qould have to consume mass amounts of soy all day long and gave me the go ahead!



    Cocobean... I hear ya on the SEs before BC I road my bike 5 miles a day ate right and.was right where I wanted to be mentally and physically but now hell no! Ive gained more weight than I care to discuss and the decadron has me broke out like a hormone enraged teenager not to mention I'm looking like Chinad O`connor.. But Ive had it tomorrow I start my rise up and out of this.... My DH cleaned and oiled.the treadmill and I will be on it right after kids go to school! Even if I have to go 2mph and only go 1/2 mile its time to push forward~salads and chicken it will be...... We got this!



    Aic.... Congrats now you are on to the next chapter and 1 step closer to being cancer free! Relax and enjoy your evening.



    Cherrio....are you fully expanded? If so how long did it take to get there? Plz do fill me in Friday... I am curious as to how long it might be before I start rads...



    Everyone... If you have had your surgery whay did you take or wish you had taken with you? I am starting a list...



    Thanks for all thw compliments on the avatar. I did shoots for a cure so it was fun and the best part cheap!

  • butterfly14
    butterfly14 Member Posts: 253
    edited January 2013

    aic - congratulations on finishing chemo!!!

    JoJo - Hope you are feelinng better soon.

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited January 2013

    Jojo.... Amen to that I am beyond words with this group it is a true blessing..



    Faithfocus... Right on time with the list! You are telepathic and read my mind as I was typing lol

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited January 2013

    Foreverchanged, I got the same advice as Amy and I think others above. I find it hard on my eyes scrolling up and down and trying to remember who said what! I admit to a copy/paste below:

    Two more cycles of Taxol but saw the PS last week and big news. After much soul searching and discussions over time with BS, MO, RO and then PS, I am having surgery before rads. I even got a date last night and my UMX, axillary dissection and immediate reconstruction with T/E (and using Alloderm as a support) will be March 5. PS says he will do a fill during surgery in hopes that there will be enough elasticity during rads which seems to be what many of you have been told too. This is the only reconstruction in the cards for me due to past surgery scarring and no fat anyway. So really no choice unless no reconstruction. And the PS said to have rads first makes it almost impossible to do T/E reconstruction.

    Then the healing followed by radiation. PS says that he will not even consider the exchange for at least 3-6 months after radiation, again same information as so many of you have. So I am looking at next fall for the exchange. Almost 6 months now since dx! I had my repeat CT scan last week to check on lung nodule. My nurse navigator called today about my surgery date and I asked her if the report was in. Sounds like no change either way and another scan in 6 months. Then I got a call also from my breast clinic, and BS wants to see me. Sounds like maybe routine re results of scan since she called me last night about the surgery date and did not mention scan. But then she was in her office not the clinic. So with bloodwork, MO and chemo next week I don't see her until the following week and can only hope it is just routine. And so it goes!

  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited January 2013

    Great bunch of information Faith!  I will have to print it out so I have it for February.

    I ended up saying I would go to lunch with my old co-workers- but I am really not wanting to. I am afraid it is going to be a lunch full of pity looks.  Yuck. I am just going to try to focus on them as much as possible.  I feel like I would rather talk about cancer with you all and people who have been there for me.  I am feeling kind of protective of myself and bitter.  I just know they will go back to the office and tell everyone they saw me, and pat themselves on the back for spending time with the poor cancer victim.  Okay, maybe I should have said no.  Hope I can refrain from being mean spirited. 

    My little sister is coming to town on Sunday and I am so excited!  She wanted to be there for my final chemo on Tuesday.  It means the world to me to have her here.

    My head is killing me today.  On another interesting note, I have an appointment to get my "special license" this Sunday.  I figured, I might as well do it now.  Those lollipops helped a lot!

    And no, we aren't doing Disney at this point.  Oh well.  Maybe later.

                                                                   

     



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  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited January 2013

    Mariposa your last chemo is the day before mine.... Maybe we can pop a bottle of virtual bubbly and celebrate the end to this chapter!

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2013

    Boy, you girls have been so chatty today. Lots of great advice. I've taken so many notes, that I need to put them in ABC order.



    Faith..Love the grabber idea. I'm going to get one.



    Amy..yes, I'm having TE's put in at time of surgery (jan 24) my PS said I will be seeing him probably until the end of October. Whew...long time. Does the biotin really help with hair growth? I'm really tired of being bald. However, I'm seeing sprouts. And wouldn't you know it, they are gray! WTH!!!



    Cocobean...I too finished chemo a week ago and geez today I'm doing the shuffle around the office. My legs all the way up to my thighs are sore like I ran around the track. My back is sore too, kinda in my kidney area. I think it may be the recliner.



    Melrose...I like your ice pak idea. I will try that as well.



    Toastiecat...thanks for all the tips. Can you wear bras right after surgery or do you wait until the drains are out? What about those side sleeper pillows? Did you get anything like that?



    Mariposa..beautiful picture. Very exotic. Here is my two cents on your lunch. I would go just to keep on good terms. And they are not going to talk about you unless they are total biotches! It may feel good just to get out like that and hear what's been going on at work. Hold your pretty head up high and walk in there as the warrior you are!

    So glad your sister is coming. Two of my three sisters are coming for my surgery and to take care of me. Sisters Are the greatest.





  • Cherioo
    Cherioo Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2013

    Hey Amy, when I had my Surgery my PS filled me 75 cc then I had two more . once I started chemo he stopped and said we will continue after rads . My skin has defiantly expanded . Before surgery I was a 38DD after rads we are looking at 36C . I will have three more fills then Monday I will know for sure the exact timing.



    You know what I wish I had In the hospital , my ear plugs so that I could listen to music and not hear all the noise . Toasticat gave great advice on what to bring. Pillows where myfriend . My mom bought me the best gel pillows that I would rest my arms on . Three days before surgery I went shopping and cooked food for a week for the family and made sure that all laundry was done sheets changed and I bought PJ that button in front . You will be sore but it was manageable for me. I remember having problems the first couple of days getting up out of bed but I pushed myself. I did not want anyone helping me so that I could get use to it. I really think that helped me. I know e all hate taking pai. Pills , but please do take them the first few days as directed . My lymph nodes like I said on my right side were the only pain I had. I needed to learn how to lift my arm above my head. I had 14 taken out so I started right away lifting my arms and doing the exercise so I would not get lymphdema . I am blabbing on but I just want you to hear how each one of us reacted .



    Jojo do you have a home nurse coming by to check on you ? my ins paid for it for the first two weeks . My DH changed my drains but she would check my wounds and change my dressing twice a week and coloring and so on. Ask your primary. I would have never thought they did that , so when my Dr set it up I was like great.... Praying fever goes down and you feel no pain .





  • Toastiecat
    Toastiecat Member Posts: 132
    edited January 2013

    Cherioo, good call on earplugs! That would have been great in the hospital. That made me think of a sleep mask, which also would have helped (for some reason lights are always on!)



    And I second your comment about the visiting nurse. My insurance also let me have one, and it was really great to have the daily contact with a medical professional when I was feeling out of sorts. Just hearing her tell me how much better I was doing, etc, made it so worth it. The social worker at the hospital set it up for me.

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2013

    Cherioo...thanks for all your advice. Where did you get the gel pillows? I've heard of side pillows. I'm such a side sleeper. I'm going to try and just sleep in the recliner for a couple of nights. I'm lucky as I will have my sisters here for 10 days helping me out. However, they always like to redecorate my house when they come so that may drive me crazy. Lol

  • Cherioo
    Cherioo Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2013

    Hopex , I believe my mom got them at Tuesday Morning . I too sleep on my side . The first month I couldn't but the pillows helped me so much . I could lean over but that was about it . Some people where able to sleep o. The couch or chair . My bed is my sanctuary and man I made sure that I was set up . I love pillows and probably have five around me at all times when I sleep . I love down pillows . This may sound crazy but my sheets have to be over 600 count and I made sure that I had them changed every other day the first week. Even though i was able to shower it was really hard to wash my HAIR when I had it and it is hard to wash your body . My DH did his best but still we are use to cleaning ourselves. I knew I was clean but not to my liking . I am a clean freak as you can probably tell by the way I am explaining clean sheets, but let me tell you it felt great to lay back in my clean bed smelling like Downey .



    The best clothes for me to wear was tank tops and swat pants . The tops I would have my mom or DH place them over my head to my waist and I would slide my arms In . I did have shirts that buttoned i the front but felt much better in tank tops . Toastiecat I bet you can relate to that. I hated wearing a bra and my RO said it was fine . The bra hurt anyways when I had the tubes in . I am on my chemo high right now as you can tell but thank god it is my last chemo .

  • SeattleMama
    SeattleMama Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2013

    Congratulations on all you finishing up......I'm getting ready for round 2, and I'm not happy about it.  Hopefully it will work this time.

    <<running to the virtual liquor store, buying a few bottles of bubbly for you all :)   >>

  • Cherioo
    Cherioo Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2013

    Seattlemama so sorry . It does suck and we are hear for you . When you say round two doyou mean your second time?

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2013

    Cherrio...I will miss those chemo highs! I felt so good on those days and I got so much done! So enjoy your last moments!

    I like the idea of tanks and sweats too. I'm going to buy a couple larger ones.

    What did you do with your drains? My sister thought she could make a couple pockets in my tank tops to hold them.



    Seattlemomma...what are you having done? I don't see many of us From the Northwest on here. Where did you have your surgery?

  • Cherioo
    Cherioo Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2013

    Hopex you can actually buy them at a breast cancer store . Target has great tanks . Ask your dr for the waist band that has the pockets to place your drains . Did you find your self hungry when you were on this high? On AC I lost weight could not eat . Man Taxol I am hungry all the time for not so healthy food

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2013

    Cherrio...I'm starving all the time. I'm not a sweet eater but I can't seem to get enough of it. I ate really healthy with AC. Taxol gives me the munches. I've even been eating fast foods. I have to keep it a secret from my DH though. I need to get back on track. Cancer feeds on sugar so I need to stop it! I'm off to bed...we may have snow tomorrow which will make me eat even more. Nachos anyone?

  • EnglishRose75
    EnglishRose75 Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2013

    Cheerio, kids, aic--Hooray!  Congratulations on the last one! Onwards and upwards!  Whenlife, be sure to check in on Friday so that we can have a cyber celebration for you too!

    Coco, I know exactly what you mean about the frustration of the lingering SEs.  I had my last chemo on 21st November, and my legs ached from the Taxotere worse than they ever did up until about Christmas/New Year.  They are much better now.  Aching legs however have now been replaced with tingling fingers which I never had during treatment and an exasperated foot problem. When I'm feeling down about it, I tell myself that with each day and each week that passes, I will be feeling better and more like my old self.  Actually more like the new self that I want to be!

    Nuke number 6 today.  14 to go...

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited January 2013

    Yes Cherioo I have nurse coming by every other day to check on me.  She is the one who found I had the fever yesterday.  She left me some supplies as well.  Woke this morning with no fever so hopefully I have turned the corner.

    On the bra question after surgery, even though I only had a lumpectomy I have been wearing a soft loose bra the BC group gave me.  I have one incision that runs from my outer breast to under my arm.  Wearing the bra feels better to me as it supports the incision.  It does cover where the drain is inserted, but its loose and soft and not restricting. 

    One small warning for those with upcoming surgery - grab your breasts and hold them when you get out of bed.  Thats the worst pain!  If you have a port and remember how that felt this is more intense.  I gradually let my breast fall and the pain is more bearable.

    The little things you learn!

  • butterfly14
    butterfly14 Member Posts: 253
    edited January 2013

    I had the BMX, my PS had me keep it wrapped tight with an ace liek bandage for the first couple of weeks and then had me use sports bras for support. This really did help with pain.

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2013

    JoJo...Can you sleep with your bra on? Would that help when you get out of bed? I better calll. My PS to see if they give me something to wear. Otherwise, I will need to add that to my list. That is really helpful for you to have a nurse that comes by.

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited January 2013

    Hope i do sleep in it, but since its not a support bra gravity kicks in. I have large breasts too (D cup) so I got alot of weight to support :-)

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