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  • Maria51
    Maria51 Member Posts: 7
    edited January 2013

    Started AC on 12/13...had a second treatment 12/28....shaved my head New Year's Day. Have a few more wrinkles than the New Year's baby, but that's how I brought in 2013. :)

    The hair was coming out in handfuls so I was happy when a friend of mine came over and buzzed it. My scalp itches though. Any suggestions out there? I have been using aloe. Helps a little.



    Also, even with Neulasta injections, my white blood counts have been very low. Anybody else?



    Keep smiling ladies!



  • krayzwolf66
    krayzwolf66 Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2013

    It pretty much would hv to b normal at least thats what i feel as i hv recently learned firsthand after dx with idc stg4 HER2+ with mets to sternum at initial dx. Im so far away from SEX that i wonder at times if it too is another long term or permanent SE. I couldnt even hv it if i wanted it due to the damage potential in doing so. Literally,my body cannot handle the act w/o some bleeding or pain occuring,no matter what. I only can pray its cuz of chemos effects on our body. You are not crazy tho. Remain strong and good luck n prayers to us all.

  • krayzwolf66
    krayzwolf66 Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2013

    I had extremely low counts but thats what they wanted for me. To me, Nuelasta was worse with SE than chemo. Good luck in your battle. Keep smiling no matter how much u may or may want to cry. =)

  • kiwikid
    kiwikid Member Posts: 204
    edited January 2013

    Thanks LeeA yeah the ocean is amazing. Went out to an Indian restaurant tonight, I have def got my taste buds back, yummo!



    Welcome vas4554 hopefully with the help of the wonderful women here you will find this time easier than you would if you we're alone.



    Xx kk

  • Jud
    Jud Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2013

    welcome KRAYZWOLFKRAYZWOLF66... best wishes, gentle hugs, and positive thoughts, go out to you!!!!

  • Maria51
    Maria51 Member Posts: 7
    edited January 2013

    Thanks Krayzwolf....why were they looking for low counts? To show that the chemo was working. I've had two Neupogen shots in addition to the Neulasta after 1st round. And just had another Neupogen shot after round 2 and the Neulasta. My onc seemed concerned. He made certain that I have Cipro on hand. However, I feel OK, just some fatigue.....and the itchy scalp. I was also given a sample of something called Mu Guard to prevent mouth sores. It is fairly new on the market. Must have just been approved by the FDA. It coats the oral cavity. The company sent me 5 complimentary bottles because my insurance would not cover the script. So far, so good. I've been using it for two weeks and it has helped. If anyone wants more info, I will be happy to supply. :)

  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited January 2013

    kiwikid - I love the ocean so much! I also live very close from the beach. But it's winter here and it's cold! Enjoy it and take a swim for us all here Cool

    I'm glad you can vent to your mom, my mom is feeling more depressed than me for what has happened so I keep my thoughts for myself, can't tell her if I have a bad day because I don't want her to feel worse. But she looks at me and knows when I'm pretending. Family is everything, I'm glad you have your parents and bf to help you go through this.

    Mom's rock!!

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited January 2013

    kiwikid - the ocean meters form your room sounds amazing. I hope it helps you to feel and get better.

    krazywolf and vas4554 - Welcome! None of us really wants to be here but we are, but it is a wonderful group of ladies and we try to encourage and support each other through this chemo journey.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Is anyone on here getting Adria/cytoxan? I get it every third week. About Day 7-8 I get very cold and a bit achy for 2 or 3 hours, then it passes and comes back later. I don't get sick or tremble, just very very cold. By Day 9 (today) it's gone.



    I'm not getting Neulasta or neupogin, but I get an extra week to bounce back. I worry that my WBC wont rebound. I don't want any treatments postponed. I just want to get this over with.



    I buzzed my hair 9 days ago, but stubble is hanging on, and as far as I can tell, I'm not losing body hair. I was never very hairy anyway. I rarely had to shave my legs. Don't hate me girls. Lol



    I think I'm over the hump.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • beckstar18
    beckstar18 Member Posts: 253
    edited January 2013

    Happy Saturday everyone!  Good to read through the last several posts and catch up with how each of you are doing Smile

  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited January 2013

    Soteria205 - I'm having AC too, I'm on day 9 (first cycle) and had very few SE's, only fatigue now, but much less than you describe. I feel cold everyday but like everyone else cause it's cold where I live.

    I sometimes wonder if they all give us a fixed dose per kg/pound (we are all on the same dose and only the number of cycles varies) or if we are on different doses that each doctor though were more appropriate to each dx (and their own opinion on how much aggressiveness is needed?).  

  • pands
    pands Member Posts: 80
    edited January 2013

    Soteria - i am on AC 3 week cycle going in for my 3rd round on tuesday..the only se i really dont like is swelling of lymph nodes in groin and armpits around day 5-6  with the fatigue...getting a cold after #2 was even worse...will have to talk to doc on that one on monday...forgot to ask at last meeting because they changed who i was seeing 3 times..asked nurse about that and she said if you dont see your regular onc doc its because youve had no problems with chemo....

  • Runnergirl2013
    Runnergirl2013 Member Posts: 83
    edited January 2013

    Hi ladies - I need help!  I have little red irritating bumps on my scalp.  I think they are from wearing a cap as they are mostly where my cap hits on my head.  What should I do to treat them?

    And is there anything I can use to prevent them in the future?

    Thanks SO much!

  • dcsandpiper
    dcsandpiper Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2013

    Hi all,



    Regarding radiation,I was very worried about that fora number of reasons. When I went to get a second opinion from a well regarded radiologist and she said I didn't need radiation I was thrilled. For people with mastectomy and who have had lymph nodes removed rdiationcanhave aloof really bad long term effect. Like capsular contracture, lymphodema chances are increased, and there are potential impacts to organs.



    So she said if I had radiation, it would maybe reduce my chances of recurrence from 8% to 5%. And that's based on older data when treatment overall wasn't so effective.



    Finally, she said the two biggest risk factors are: 1) rumors larger than 5cm, 2) four or more lymph nodes involved. I did not have these. Then there are six minor risk factors: 1) lymph nodes involved, 2) lymphovascular invasion, 3) grade 3, 4) positive margins, 5) younger than 40, 6) progesterone negative, estrogen neg or HER2 positive. I only had 2 of these six. And she said that want worth the risk and we could monitor closely.



    Talk to your radiologist about the risks and weigh them out.

  • dcsandpiper
    dcsandpiper Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2013

    I was having problems with my iPad so had to cut that short. Any way she said we could monitor every 6 months for three to four years and if anything popped up they would be able to see it easily and deal with it then. That it wasn't worth all the potential radiation issues for that 5% or less risk reduction.



    Get all the data and get a second opinion.



    Good luck!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    dcsandpiper~Thanks for that info. I'm ER/PR+ her 2 neu-. I really don't want to do rads if it can be safely avoided. My tumor was 5.6 cm and here 13/16 nodes.



    I hear that the radiation can be hard on the heart and thyroid. I haven't talked to the RO since final pathology report after surgery, but I'm hopeful I can forgo rads.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Runner girl u may be having an an allergic reactiion - so maybe some Benadryl . My mo also called Ina prescription for a gel called clarasin - it is for pimples and bumps .

    I would call your dr right away ,



    Hello all - I finally woke up this am feeling somewhat "normal ". . Took my First antibiotic last night ( for those of u that are new I was running a 100.5 degree temp the last 2 days ) no fever upon waking . I think I may have got the little bug when a popcorn kernel got caught in my sensitive gums and festerd . Don't eat popcorn while one chemo !!!

    Maybe I can finally get out today for that pixie cut and post a pic - hope so !

    Thank u all that have helped me!

    Oh I also downloaded a good book Chemo - secrets to thriving from Roxanne brown . Here favorites at the back and shopping list for new patients is especially helpful !



    One question for the veterans that started in earlier dec than I - did they take your white blood count between rounds 1 & 2 ? Or did u just do it the day b4 the 2nd infusion? I fell like mine might be low . My next infusion is on 1/17

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    Hi krazywolf66 ! We live in the same city ! You can private message me if u want . I will be thinking good thoughts and prayers for u ! What medical system are u working with ? I am with mercy - has been food so far . With all the science and excellent treatments for this disease we can be thankful that the management of it will ensure good outcomes !

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited January 2013

    Dcsandpiper - thanks so much for that info. I am going to talk with my MO. I really feel like the rads are overkill. I had a double mastectomy with reconstruction and am doing chemo. I seriously do not want to risk any other physical ailments as I want to really make exercise a major part of my life and ongoing treatment.



    Just back from a 2.8 mile hike only I ran the first 1.4 miles! It felt great and I spent a lot of time visualizing my strong self in 2013. Endorphins have been released!!

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Sandra, I'm curious about the acne med (I thought I knew every last one of them because I've battled it since my teens).  I googled Clarasin but couldn't find anything.  Is it possible it was Clindamycin?  I only ask because I'm always looking for the next acne miracle (not that I've ever found it yet!).

    ---

    FriendGwen, congratulations on that hike/run!  That's great - especially running the first 1.4 miles!  I'm trying to get myself mentally motivated to go to the gym and do my 1 mile outdoor flat track walk but I'm on day four and feeling kind of queasy/odd/icky...

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited January 2013

    dcsandpiper - thanks for that info on rads. I too feel as though rads will be overkill and do not like the risks. Of course I am not crazy about having an ALND either, so I am nt sure what my next course of action will be after chemo.

    runner - I have gotten the scalp bumps after tx1 & tx2. I suspect I will get them after this next tx too, but I will talk to my MO about it prior to tx on wed.

    Sandra - I have only had bloodwork done prior to tx each time. Your numbers go through a cycle after treatment. The lowest point is about day 10. If you do a google search on "nadir chemotherapy" you will be able to read about it. Sorry but my Mozilla will not let me do a cut and paste on this site and I have not been able to figure out how to fix that yet.

    Gwen - awesome update on your run/walk!

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Thank u so much for the info Bren ! I think I am coming up on the 10 day mark right now. I took my 2nd dose of antibiotics this am but my temp still shot up to 101 - it is down to about 99.6 after an hour and a half of taking 2 500 mg tylenols . I am not happy - want it to be down to normal . I am so fearful of neutropenia - hope things get stabilized soon !

  • beckstar18
    beckstar18 Member Posts: 253
    edited January 2013

    dcsandpiper good info on rads, thanks for sharing!



    Sandra, I'm getting weekly Herceptin between my chemo every 3 weeks so I've been getting labs each week. My WBC are lowest after the first week, then the 2nd week they were up. Hope this helps, and hope your fever comes down. I haven't even taken my own temperature, did you as a precaution or because you weren't feeling well?

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2013

    Had a 101 temp earlier today - rhey think I had/have an infection so that is why I am on 7 days of anti biotics . I think I am starting to come around the bend - husband made some lentils for me ( protein ) and we mixed them with a little garlic and salsa - made me feel food and my temp is down now .

  • Nicole503
    Nicole503 Member Posts: 295
    edited January 2013

    FriendGwen - love to hear that you are running!

    It's day 10 cycle 1 for me and I finally feel like I'm back!  It is GOOD to feel good! Ran some errands this morning and then went for a long walk this afternoon.  Hoping to walk again tomorrow.

    I am doing the nupogen shots and have to have my blood drawn on day 7 and day 9.  My white blood cell count was as high as it had ever been on the day 7 draw.  I haven't seen the results from yesterday yet.  Does this mean that my immune system is in good working order?  I've been a little nervous about returning to the community center because my oncology nurse has really warned me about germs in public places.  It doesn't help that our newspaper is running articles about norovirus (stomach flu) and regular flu starting to hit hard in Portland.  

    I'm going to meet a new oncologist this week and I am hoping to figure out whether I can safely be amidst the germy public with my counts.  My old oncologist tried so hard to be funny that he really put me off.  I'm going to be seeing a woman oncologist who is fairly new to the practice but I'm hopeful that the relationship fit will be better.  As I understand it, my oncologist and I will have a nice looooooong relationship so I hope I'm finding one I like.

    Happy to feel good for a few days before heading back down the rabbit hole.  Wishing you all well!!!!

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited January 2013

    Nicole - I live on the East Coast and there are so many cases of the flu here. DH read in the paper that the local hospital (small city) has seen over 200 cases in the last week in the ER and that they have 80 people in quarantine with the flu! It is definitley a bad year for it. Glad we got our flu shots in the fall. I hope you can avoid getting it.

  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited January 2013

    My DH just buzzed my hair (18 days post chemo round 1) - it was just getting out of control.  I didn't watch but it made it surreal as the hair fell on my legs, toes and nose - tears streamed down my face.  It doesn't look bad...a little chilly but ok.  Before I could hide I didn't have cancer now it's so obvious.  Another stepping stone I suppose.

    Sandra60 -feel better and take care!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Jenjeni~Don't worry about hiding it. When I saw someone without hair, and it appeared they were fighting cancer ( before my dx), I never felt pity. I always saw strength in them.

    I admired them for fighting. Besides, it takes a lot more energy to hide it then it does to be open about it.



    My 24 year old son buzzed mine on the 27th, the day before my 2nd chemo. I wore my wig to church last Sunday, but think I'll wear a t-shirt wrap tomorrow.



    Blessings

    Paula



  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited January 2013

    Jenjenl - I know it is a surreal experience but you did it! The anticipation is almost worse. It has been about 12 days for me and I'm adapting. I wear my wig when out and go topless or wear scarves at home. Just tonight I figured out how to do a turban with a beautiful scarf and I'm feeling almost a little glamorous. It's like playing dress up. Today when I went running I wore the baseball hat with half wig. As someone who has had bangs for years having a bald forehead seemed ridiculous and not me. But it was also kind of empowering not having hair in my face. Tonight when I went out to dinner I had on my wig with awesome highlights. It's kind of fun having my different looks! And you will love your quick shower tomorrow. It takes me under ten minutes to shower, put on make up and get dressed. More time to drink coffee and play with my new kitten!

  • Nicole503
    Nicole503 Member Posts: 295
    edited January 2013

    Jenjenl -- take care of that "a little chilly" on top.  I am definitely struggling more with staying warm since I took my hair off NYE.  The worst time for me is right out of the shower.  I don't know how bald men do it.  The second the warm water stops, the "chilly on top" is super noticeable.  I like the shorter showers too but I'm learning quickly to wrap my head the second I get out.

    FriendGwen -- I envy your coffee drinking.  Ever since chemo started coffee has not tasted good to me.  I've had a love affair with the stuff since I was 12 and started each day with 2 - 3 cups of that brown liquid goodness.  Every time I've tried it in the last week I don't want it after about the third sip.  Switching to herbal teas has been a major chemo concession for me.  I hope that when chemo ends I can resume my love affair with coffee!  

    Bren58  I got a flu shot mid October before getting diagnosed with breast cancer.  Think it will do me any good with the lowered immunity from chemo?  We hadn't vaccinated our 14 year old this fall and we did so last week.  Better late than never.  At least there is a pretty good circle of vaccinated humans in my closest vicinity (my husband has never had a flu shot and did not volunteer to start this year)!

  • MTJulie
    MTJulie Member Posts: 63
    edited January 2013

    Nicole- I also gave up coffee after my first treatment but was very happy to discover it tasted good again after about 2 weeks. I just drink hot water in the morning on those days everything tastes weird. Not much for tea.

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