How long did you have body aches after taxol???

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debk55
debk55 Member Posts: 108

Hi All,

I am just wondering how long you all have had body aches after finishing taxol. It has been 6 wks and I still have bad body aches everyday. I know it is some what due to doing more now that I am done with treatment and working a few days a week instead of sitting and reading ALL winter.

I started chemo 10-31-09 and had DD A&C x 4 and Taxol x 12 with avastin every 2 wks during the AC and every 3 wks during the taxol. I was doing good walking at first during tx then my hemoglobin went down to 8 and my platelets went really low and my onc told me to do nothing. And my winter of doing nothing and reading while doing chemo started. I have grocery shopped and done laundry and cooked simple dinners thru the chemo mostly but not worked. But, while on the taxol I had to take a 1/2 of vicodin every 6 to 8 hours for the body aches and I still have to.  I am in a trial and continuing on with the avastin but that should not cause the body aches.  

I am just wondering how you all have done.  My onc thinks it could be months for my body to get back to normal. But how long did any of you need pain meds?????

Thanks so much for you time and input.   Blessing to you all in this battle. 

Deb:)

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  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Hi Deb

    I'm so sorry you are still having pain, that's terrible!  I hope someone can come along and help you with your question soon.  I am right in the middle of Taxol tx, so I can't help you with your question.

    I do, however, have a question for you.  I heard that the body pain was less common when on weekly taxol.  I have had 6 so far, and no pain, just some twinges here and there.  When did your body pain kick in with your taxol?  Is this something that comes along in the second half of tx?  I have 6 more to go, so I was just wondering if the pain comes near the end of tx.

    I truly hope you feel better soon. 

    Hugs

    Judy

  • debk55
    debk55 Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2009

    Hi Judy,

    I started with the body aches right away. On the very first tx the second day I felt like I was coming down with the flu with such body aches I took my temp every 1/2 hour for a couple hours, then I realized it must be from the taxol since I did not have a temp. So hopefully you won't get them. I have a friend who did the taxol every 2 wks and she had them bad right away also.

    I did not get the neuropapthy til the end though so watch for that. It started with just some tingling on my finger tips some times then at the end it went into to all of my fingers and tingling in the palm of both hands. I could not put earrings in and my fingers tips were really numb. I ended up not getting my last taxol. But my onc said having gotten 11 was really enough. 

    How are you doing??  I have been trying to work 2-3 days a week and trying to keep up with the house and prom dress shopping and my older DD graduating from college has kept me really busy.  I have checked out your chemo thread to see have you were doing, they seem like a great bunch of women. My chemo thread was really not that active and no one is there any more. I need to find another thread to chat with.  I seem to want to be on more now than before. Maybe because I am not going to chemo every week anymore.  I hope you stay body ache free!!!

    Well talk to you later,  

    Deb:)

  • Lisa-Lisa
    Lisa-Lisa Member Posts: 30
    edited May 2009
    Deb,  I finished my taxol at the end of March and I too expierenced bone/muscle pain with every treatment and took my temp to make sure I didn't spike a fever because I truely felt like I was getting the flu each time.  For me if I do get active I will have aches/pains, fatigue a few days later and know to take it easy.  I had minor numbness in my fingers and toes, that has turned into a real ugly nail-thing looks like I will loose a couple of my nails. It takes a while to go through the threads to find one that applies to you so I was glad to find this one.  Any updates to share we will eventually find someone who can lend an ear.  I was told it could take up to a year to get the chemo flushed out?  I'll keep checking here for any updates, until then keep pushing through the pain, I am!Smile
  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited May 2009

    Hi Deb,

    I ached so bad when I was on taxol. Once I was finished it took about 2 weeks to stop aching, but I was tired for months.  The tingles in my feet stayed for months too.

  • fightinhrd123
    fightinhrd123 Member Posts: 633
    edited May 2009

    I'm still aching and tingling and i had my last dose in September.  I am doing herceptin though and thats adding to it, but I can defintely still feel the taxol.  I had REALLY bad pain during it though, and had it every 2 weeks.

    Laura

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Deb:  Hi!  Well, those nasty pains started with my last tx, darn it!  They wake me up in the morning, then fade to aches as the day goes on.  But while I was in bed, they were awful, sharp, deep pains!  Kept waking me up.  I am just achy today, not bad.  Oh well, I knew it would probably happen, was just hoping for a bit more of a delay before it did.  Overall I am doing ok.  Getting housework done, etc, but not working right now.  I'm way too tired to work right now. You sound very busy, thank god I don't have to buy any prom dresses ever again!!!  DD's all grown up, and my last child is a boy, so that should be much easier (and cheaper)!

    I hope everyone can have more pain-free days.  What pain killers are you guys using?  Right now I'm just using tylenol, I hate pain killers that make me feel loopy.

    Hugs

    Judy

  • debk55
    debk55 Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2009

    Hi Judy,

    I am taking vicodin tylenol did nothing for me and I can't take advil as I am doing the avastin and that can increase bleeding. I only take 1/2 of a vicodin. You might try that if the OTC pain meds stop helping. The 1/2 does not make me feel weird and it does take the pain away. So sorry you are getting the aches I had prayed you would not having been half way though it. Watch for the neuroopathy that hit me hard and fast at the end!!!  

    Yes I am glad prom & oldest DD college grad is over also. Last weekend cost TOO much. And next year we get to do it all over again as DD is a junior this year and other DD is going to be grad with her masters. I need to start saving now but am just trying to keep the bills paid right now.   I am glad to know that God always provides what is needed and try not to worry too much about $$$.   

    Hugs too,

    Deb:)

  • debk55
    debk55 Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2009

    Laura,

    Thanks I was begining to wonder if something was wrong with me even though my onc said it could take a year for joints to get back to normal. I have not heard any one that has had the aches & joint pains more than a few weeks.

    To SE free days & hugs to all,

    Deb :)

  • txgal
    txgal Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2009

    gcpommom...I was on weekly Taxol and heard horror stories from some of the people in the waiting area on chemo day about Taxol.  I never had any body/bone/muscle pain at all.  My doctor said the weekly Taxol definitely cuts down on the side effects, especially the pain.

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    txgal:  well, i did start getting pain last weekend, and had my 7th tx today, so with any luck, the pain won't get any worse than it was last time.  I'm glad you had an easy time of it, though :)   I had noticed a few weeks ago that my legs, especially my knees, often feel very weak.  Especially when going down stairs.

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited August 2009

    Ugh, still having aches and pains....legs, hands, knees....it's been 11 wks now since I finished chemo.....I feel like a little old lady.  It's not so bad that I take pain killers, but I hurt every day, especially when I get up from sitting/laying down, or when I climb stairs.  The hands are always stiff (could be arthritis, but didn't have before chemo)???

    I sooo want to feel normal again.  It seems like many women feel better by now...

    sorry for the gripe, but this is so frustrating....I have days when I feel great and get lots done, then I have days when I am so achy and tired and not motivated at all.  I just want to feel better all over, not just in bits and pieces.

    Judy

  • Celtic_Spirit
    Celtic_Spirit Member Posts: 748
    edited August 2009

    I had Taxol's cousin, Taxotere. I didn't start aching until the last treatment or so, which was in mid-September '08. My aches involve my lower legs and feet. They go through spells where they ache and hurt like blazes, esp. at night, then ease up for a few weeks. Part of my problem could be tamoxifen as well. The pain doesn't stop me from being active, though I do wonder how I'm going to stay seated on a long plane flight.

  • mlm445
    mlm445 Member Posts: 57
    edited February 2012

    I'm so glad I found this site. I had my last taxol mid-January and am still experiencing leg aches and shin splints. Does anyone else still have some of the residual pain. I had severe pain and was taking pain meds the entire time during treatment. I also lost an entire big toe nail yesterday (gross) and the nails on my fingers have a slight yellow tint - like i've had nail polish on for an extended period of time. I also still have the neuropathy. Can anyone estimate when this will go away? Thank you! 

  • hoosier_now
    hoosier_now Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2012

    Hi mlm445 -- Yesterday was 2 weeks since my last taxol. I am having terrible shin splints and other leg aches. I'm not sure how long these pains will last, but my doctor recently told me a few weeks to a few months. (How's that for vague?)  I've got two toe nails that look like I might lose them. My finger nails also have a yellowish tint. Plus, they have horizontal ridges that probably correspond to various chemo sessions.  I've got some mild neuropathy. My fingers ache and the pads of my fingers have some numbness and tingles. The soles of my feet are also a little tingly.

    But this is all better than I was during the last couple of weeks of taxol! I was getting tiny blisters on my fingers and toes, mostly around the joints. They itched and hurt like crazy. They seem to be gone for now. 

    One of my friends finished her chemo 3 years ago and still has some neuropathy in her fingers and pains in her legs -- but not as bad as it was 3 years ago. 

     I hope you're doing well. I feel lucky that the side-effects have not been worse!

  • LadyGJ30
    LadyGJ30 Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2012

    I just found this website and have been reading posts, I finished my last chemo treatment of taxol in May, 2012, I have so much pain in my legs and arms, everyday I wake up I am in pain, can barely make it to the bathroom. I have contacted my Onc numerous times, their answer is prescribing more painkillers, oxy, percocet and mortrin 800, I do not want to continue to take these meds forever, I fear the damage that can be done to my liver. When I ask questions, I feel noone is fully being truthful, one of the nurses even stated it may not even be from the chemo, well I told her I never had any of these symptoms before chemo. Hot flashes like crazy, tingling in my fingers and feet, also numbness still on the soles of my feet, got to get help buttoning up things or putting on earrings. I am told it could be up to 2 years after treatment, if anyone has any suggestions as how to manager the after effects of taxol please share with me. Thanks so much, God Bless you all as we go through this struggle to beat this breast cancer.

  • emerald0320
    emerald0320 Member Posts: 38
    edited September 2012

    I'm doing the first part of chemo now and the 2nd part is going to be taxol and just reading the pain everyone is going through scares me!! I'm having second thoughts about quitting all these tx's.I just had my first tx 3 days ago and today was the first day I felt like crap! Queasy stomach, I'm hungry but can't eat.and feel like I could sleep forever!.is this normal? I mean the first couple days after the chemo I was fine, why until now?

  • Kimmie0247
    Kimmie0247 Member Posts: 38
    edited September 2012

    Welcome to the world of AC. That's how it is. It usually hits on the 3rd or 4th day. At least it did for me. Drink lots of water and it will help. Phenegran is your friend. I like it so much better than Zofran. If you have any questions, just ask me. I just finished AC and have just started Taxol.

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited September 2012

    I finished taxol is feb 29. Then rad fin may 3.



    Mine just grad went away. I am 45. I went back to gym few weeks ago. Started walking first

  • emerald0320
    emerald0320 Member Posts: 38
    edited September 2012

    Well I thought I was getting lucky cause was feeling pretty well first few days! Till yesterday and today that is! Does it get better or worse? And the taxol, was it very painful?

  • 1cb
    1cb Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2012

    Hi!

    I too just started taxol and the next day awoke with finger tip and nail pain... And today (day3) I have had brutal pain at my joints and muscles.... It keeps changing from site to site. Is this how others have experienced it? I am taking L-glutamine and need to take ibuprofen regularly. It is driving me crazy!! I am active and want to know if others found exercise helpful or if it made the cramps worse?

    Did you find the cramps and pain dwindled as you approached your next session or did it just keep getting worse? I am starting to dread the next two months!!

    Any pointers would be great!

    Thanks!!!

  • SLKsMom
    SLKsMom Member Posts: 22
    edited September 2012

    Hi, everyone. . .



    I had ACx4. Felt pretty crummy and flu-like through all of that.



    I've had 3 of my 4 DD Taxol so far. I have it on Thursdays. I feel great Friday and Saturday. On Sunday, I feel quite a bit of muscle, joint, bone pain. I take ibuprofen and use a heating pad periodically on my lower back on Sundays only. Come Monday morning, I feel back to normal and return to work. I haven't had any neuropathy. My lashes and brows are considerably thinner. But, hands down would take the Taxol over AC any day!!!



    My last treatment is this coming Thursday; I pray it goes as well as the last 3.



    This can be done! (4 months ago I never would've said that.)



    Happy Labor Day!

  • Kimmie0247
    Kimmie0247 Member Posts: 38
    edited September 2012

    I feel great the first few days after Taxol and then the bone and joint pain hits. Yes, it does tend to move, one minute your knees, the next it's your hips. My Dr gave me pain meds. I was taking Claritan, but do to complications I can no longer take it. I would try the Claritan and see if it works.

  • AustinGal62
    AustinGal62 Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2013

    I just joined this site today after having read SO many great and insightful comments by so many of you! I will share more later, but want to share my overall story first.

    After my mastectomy Feb. 2012, I began chemotherapy the next month, in late March 2012.  I did the dose-dense A/C (Adriamycin/Cyclophosphamide) every other Monday for four sessions.  This covered an eight-week period.  Then I had 12 weekly Taxol chemo sessions.  I continued to work during all of this, albeit only a part-time job after my job layoff prior to the cancer diagnosis.  I continued to work because I needed the money.  But most days it wasn't that bad.  The Taxol was definitely much easier to handle than the DD A/C chemo.  

    I was aware that one of the possible side effects of the Taxol treatments was bone and joint pain.  I did experience this while doing the Taxol, and I had my medical oncologist prescribe Vicodin (5 mg.) for the pain. Otherwise, there was no way I could have kept pushing myself to work five days a week.  He was kind and understood my financial situation.  We kept our agreement that once I finished Taxol, that he would no longer write me a prescription for the Vicodin.  

    I completed my last Taxol treatment on August 6, 2012 -- thank God!  I felt much better within two weeks, with my energy returning, etc.  I then did 28 daily sessions of radiation treatments and completed those Oct. 16, 2012.  Those were a walk in the park compared to doing chemo!!  

    I do not remember having any bone or joint pain when I completed my chemo nor in the weeks after.  But, beginning Dec. 9, 2012, my knees began hurting very badly.  I am also experiencing what many other women have commented upon -- severe stiffness in the hips and knees, particularly upon standing after sitting for a while, and feeling YEARS older because of this.  I have a part-time receptionist position now (still looking for full-time work), so I sit for periods of time.  I've noticed that even if I sit for only 15 minutes, I am so incredibly stiff and slow to get going again that I truly feel much older than my 50 years.  Up until going throught the breast cancer treatment, I felt, and was told looked, much younger.  

    I sincerely sympathize with all the women whose posts state they are suffering this side effect as well.  I have not taken anything for it, i.e. Ibuprofen, Tylenol, etc., as I feel I would be relying on it daily and worry about possible damage to my liver and/or stomach.  I have a 3-month check-up with my medical oncologist on January 7, 2013 (next week), and am definitely bringing up this subject with him.  I'm also going to share with him the web site links to these board posts, as I feel dozens of women going through the exact same chemo as I had and suffering the same achy side effects cannot be imagining it or wrong.  I only mention this because I know all too well how doctors can be -- they often tell you that they have never heard of such side effects (especially post-treatment) and seem to not believe you are having such severe pain; not only that, but often they have no idea how long these symptoms may last.  I'm fortunate, though, and have a great medical oncologist who, I feel, with believe me.  We'll see next week. 

  • Tracy15
    Tracy15 Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2013

    AustinGal62 so happy to see your recent post regarding this topic! My story is a long one as it's been almost 6 years since I started my treatments back in 2007.  I too had Taxol and it really took a toll on me. Severe muscle and joint pain along with the neuropathy and I hate to say this but it's never gotten better. I wake up every morning and can barely move, from tingling in my feet to the joint pain in my hips and also my elbows! I  walk quite a bit but can only get about 1.5-2 miles in before the pain gets really bad in my hips (this is after taking 2 aleve just to get a walk in at all!) I've had MRI's, nerve tests, PT, etc. and nothing has been determined, it's so frustrating. I've recently moved to AZ from New England and I'm in the midst of finding all new doctors. I'm lucky to have the Mayo clinic out here so I am hoping that I can find a doctor that will finally tell me that all of this pain is linked to long term side effects of Taxol. I'm only 47 for gods sake, not 87 but I feel it every day! I'm anxious to see what you find out AustinGal so I'll be back to check in on you. Good luck! I feel for every single one of you on here! 

  • AustinGal62
    AustinGal62 Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2013

    Hi Tracy15,

    Thank you sharing your comments.  You say it's been almost six years since you began your Taxol treatments, yet you still suffer from muscle and joint pain, as well as neuropathy.  First of all, I am truly sorry to hear you are still having to endure any of these.  It's no fun being as young as we are and feeling so terribly old at times and being in what I consider to be constant, relentless pain.  I certainly would hope that at least the pain and stiffness would diminish or go away completely after a good year or so.

    Now the neuropathy, as I understand it, can be permanent.  This was the ONLY side effect of Taxol that I was told could be permanent -- nothing about joint pain and stiffness being permanent as well.  But I've also heard from other women that their neuropathy has gone away in time.  I was lucky that mine didn't show up until the last half of my Taxol treatments, was only in a few of my toes on both feet, and it was only a bit of numbness -- no burning or tingling.  It's now been five months today since my last Taxol treatment, and my toes are beginning to feel better with less numbness, so much so that at times, they feel normal again.  So I am very hopeful that my neuropathy will go away completely as more time passes. 

    I'm printing out many of the comments of the women here to show my doctor as proof that all of us cannot be wrong about experiencing the incredible stiffness and ongoing pain in our joints, and that it is most certainly linked to the Taxol treatments.  Like me, many women stated they never had any such issues prior to beginning Taxol.  And we all know what chemotherapy drugs are capable of doing to good cells, i.e., hair loss, damaged and lost nails, low blood cell counts, weakness -- the list goes on and on!  Yes, I was told about Taxol's 'possible' side effects by my medical oncologist prior to my first treatment with it and how joint pain and stiffness was the biggest side effect.  Maybe I was naive and should have asked more about it, but I was under the impression this side effect, much like nausea, was only experienced 'during' the course of receiving the Taxol treatments.  I was NEVER told that it could be a lingering and almost debilitating effect that would last well after completing the last Taxol session and that I would simply have to live with it!  No, sir!  I sure was't told that at all.  So I am a bit angry that it wasn't mentioned to me.  I fail to believe that medical oncologists are unaware of its lingering effects with so many women developing breast cancer and most of them, I'm sure, receiving Taxol as one of their chemo drugs.  Sorry, but yes, I am angry, as I'll bet many of us are at times.  It's one thing to loss a breast, have failed reconstruction, and go through 20 weeks of chemo and 5 1/2 weeks of daily radiation while living alone.  But I didn't know, and more importantly, was NOT told, that any of these side effects could last months after Taxol completion!  

    As I wrote previously, I have a three-month check-up with my medical oncologist tomorrow morning, at which time I'll cover all this with him and report back what he says.  I feel I need some pain medicine to help me make it through my days a bit better and with less frustration.  But I am also searching for a truthful answer as to how long I can expect this to go on.  I turned 51 yesterday, and up until the chemotherapy began last March (2012), I felt a good 10 years younger than my age.  I live alone and take care of my house myself, mow and edge my yards weekly, do gardening, and much more.  But this has made me feel 20 years older than my age, if not more.  Is it any wonder we are frustrated, angry, depressed, and discouraged by feeling this achy and old?!?  My heart goes out to each and every one of you ladies who are suffering this same joint pain and stiffness.  It is my hope that it will go away at some point.  Will a different diet help?  Maybe.  I am not giving up.  That is one thing I am not -- a quitter.  It is my tenacity and strength and faith that allowed me to complete 20 weeks of chemo while living alone and continuing to work each and every week, and to only miss four days of work in that period of time.  I will make it through this, too, by golly! :-)

    Tracy15, I pray you will find wonderful doctor(s) there in Arizona who will help you with your pain and can provide you with good answers and relief!  I'll post the results of my appointment and discussion with my doctor as soon as possible.  

    Thank you all for sharing your experiences with the rest of us.  It is invaluable to me to see I am not alone in this and feel somewhat of a connection with you all!

    Hang in there, gals!  :-))

  • LadyBugAbilene
    LadyBugAbilene Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2013

    I have just joined the site and found all of the comments about Taxol most helpful.  My oncologist was very upfront about the body aches, etc. and sure enough almost all of it has come about in the last six treatments.  I go weekly and take Taxol and Herceptin and I only have six more treatments of Taxol left!  So glad when it will be over with for I know that the radiation and the Herceptin treatment will be much better.  The body pain is really bad by the fourth day after treatment that I do not want to be around anyone much less talk to anyone. The best thing that I have found to help me is tylenol, a double throw of blankets, and 1/2 muscle relaxer every 4 hours and sleep.  Thank goodness the pain finally subsides by late afternoon and I feel so much better and I'm not sleeping as much.  I try to keep a positive attitude and realize  that the treatment is "shooting" for a 100% cure rate.  It's a lot better than thinking negative thoughts and I realize that being "down" some is only natural.  Not much energy but being anemic since  beginning chemo in Sept 2012 does not help  much.  Just thankful that I am retired and feel like doing things around the house and being able to cook helps me to know that  my husband does not have to do everything  I am truly blessed having a wonderful husband who takes care of me and keeps our "home" going as much as he does.  I truly hope that each of you have better days ahead and 100% cure.  Keep the faith.

  • teacher911
    teacher911 Member Posts: 853
    edited January 2013

    I have just completed my 2nd round of Taxol after completing 4 rounds of AC with not too many side effects and nothing that was debilitating.  I thought the Taxol would be easier but my body says differently.   I had terrible muscle aches and pains 3 days after and lasted for 3 days.  9 out of my 10 fingers are black already and I am praying that I don't loose all the nails.  I have had a little tingling in my feet and hands but that seems to be mild so far. I have had terrible thrush and  I have gotten this itchy rash on my hands that I have to use cortisone cream on.  My MO says I may not be able to complete the 4 rounds of dose dense Taxol.  Curious if anyone switched from dose dense to weekly and did that help?

  • crazyride43
    crazyride43 Member Posts: 154
    edited January 2013

    teacher, I had to stop Taxol after 3 rounds of dose dense due to worsening neuropathy (leg weakness where I was almost falling down).  My MO didn't suggest changing to weekly or lowering the dose, just said she didn't want to create any permanent disabilities.  I didn't ask her, but wonder if there's a critical mass of a drug like Taxol that each person's body can take?  I have read that some women have no side effects at all from Taxol, and then some are completely debilitating.  I think I was somewhere in between, but my MO felt confident I got "enough" Taxol with 3 dose dense treatments.  I iced my fingers and toes during treatments and religiously applied cuticle cream throughout the day.  Some nails got a little bruised and sensitive but never came off.  I also had some itchy rashes in weird places that resolved within a month.  Now, 9 months out, I don't have any lingering side effects other than a slight numbness in my right index finger and an occasional slight pain in my toes.  My days of wearing uncomfortable shoes that pinch my toes are over, but I see that as a plus!  I also had my first mani pedi a few weeks ago, and all my nails are strong and healthy.  Wishing you a smooth ending to your treatments!

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited January 2013

    teacher - I have had only one treatment of taxol and I have to say that I have felt miserable since. I have throbbing finger nails, weird sensations in my hands - they feel huge (but they aren't) I have pain in my knees, blood blister on my toe, pain in my face, a bumpy itchy rash all over my legs. Basically icky all over. I am honestly thinking of quitting the taxol altogether - will see my MO next Thursday and see what she says!

  • Bishops2003
    Bishops2003 Member Posts: 60
    edited January 2013

    I just had 3 of 4 taxol and the se have really kicked in. Numbness and deep bone pain are the worst but I can feel my ribs getting sensitive and have some blood blisters on my feet. Do we just endure these things? I don't want to stop protocol.



    Hang in there ladies.

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