December 2011 Surgeries - want to wait together?
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Kam- not sure if it is good or bad yet. Hoping it is good! My arms and hands keep going numb and stiff so they want to look to see if I have pinched nerve or something. Already did X-ray.
Cookie- I am planning to relax over this vacation too. -
Peace, love and joy to all!
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Good news! Biopsies were normal. Got a call from my GP so that I did not have to wait for the GI specialist over the holidays. Very relieved but still no answers on what is causing stomach issues.
1 down, 1 to go. Off to MRI this morning. -
Oh, Ginger, good news! Happy for you.
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Yeah Ginger!!!! Fantastic. Possible bad news turning out good is probably even better after having had BC. Wonderful for you. Hope they can figure out the problem, though. I saw you on the gluten-free thread? Have you changed your diet?
I'm still a little ?? about brca2+ putting you at risk for stomach cancer, though. I asked the geneticist that one specifically since my grandfather (presumably the brca2+ carrier in my family) died of "stomach cancer" in 1925. The geneticist said it was probably not stomach...not a risk factor for brca. In his case, maybe pancreatic, if he indeed was the purveyor of the brca.
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Kam- I will ask when I go to Boston for my next appt. about the brca2 and stomach cancer.
I have been gluten free for about 7 years. My mom and brother have celiac disease and I get very sick when I have gluten. The dr had me eating it for the past 2 weeks and wants me to eat it for 6 more and do the blood test but I am sick enough when I eat so I do not think I will continue eating it for 6 more weeks. I have been off dairy and all inflammatory foods for a long time also. I will ask GI dr more when he calls.
MRI today was a piece of cake. -
Such good news, Ginger! Now I hope you find relief from the stomach issues.
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Hello my Dec. Sisters,
I'm so sorry for my absence and didn't realize it had been this long. I'm still on medical leave until next week and tried to rest from my renal cell carcinoma surgery (kidney cancer). I was going through multiple tests brain MRI, scans etc. They wanted to be sure the cancer didn't metastasize and were in fact two primary cancers of Breast and Kidney.
I'm happy to announce the tests are all done and the results are good!
Ginger, what kind of stomach issues are you having? Please demand a cat scan of your stomach and pelvis if you are not satisfied. Keep us all posted and don't worry until you get all tests completed. I have actually gotten good at the hurry and wait game. I seem to be more mellow this second round for some odd reason, or I'm just worn out from it all. I am doing very well and on my way to recovery, work and life. One more consult next week to determine if my thyroid will need to come out due to large size nodule. Other than that I'm doing well.
So great to read up on all the news, and I'm sorry if I worried you. I just had to get through over a month of tests, and the outcomes were good. Then I could spent some time with my family for Christmas, better than last years.
Hoping that God blesses all of you with good health and a Happy New Year 2013!
Stay positive and live, laugh, love!!
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Bogie - sounds like mostly good news, I'm glad that you're recovering and hoping that 2013 will be better for us all!!
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Bogie - we were worried about you, xxo. Thank you for giving us an update. You do sound calm and that attitude can only help. Wow, when it rains it pours, doesn't it? Here's to a great 2013 for all of us!
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Bogie- glad you got good news and thanks for checking in.
My stomach has been bothering me for a couple of months. Every time I eat or drink anything, within minutes I get all sinus filled. Literally mucas starts filling my nose and throat and I feel full and don't want to eat anymore. Plus, my abdomen keeps getting larger even as i have lost a few pounds. And everything goes right through me quickly. I had a GI series which confirmed that things go right through. In 15 minutes the barium went from my mouth to my small intestine. The test is supposed to take 3-5 hours but took 15 minutes for me. The X-rays also showed prominent nodular thickening in the body of my stomach. So I had an endoscopy done on 12/24 and it showed redness and polyps in my stomach. Biopsies came back normal. I still have all my original symptoms so not sure what happens now.
Also having problems with arms and hands going completely numb but nerve conduction study and MRI of my neck are normal. Dr is blaming it on lymphedema but I am not convinced. I am just sick of medical tests and feeling like crap. I really thought after 4 surgeries in 2011 that 2012 was going to be better. But I added lymphedema, frozen shoulder, sleep apnea and fibromyalgia to my list of diagnosis' instead. Sorry for the whining rant. I have just been thinking about the past 2 years and am so tired of this. I had hoped to go into 2013 healthy... -
Happy New Year to all! Here's hoping 2013 will be a happy and healthy one for us all.
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Best wishes to all for a speldid and joy filled 2013!
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Bogie, I am glad it sounds liket things are going better.
Ginger, you are in my prayers.
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Ginger,
I hear you with never ending tests, lab, poking, prodding, MRI and scans until you want to scream. I play a game of load up in the course of short time and get it all done. Sounds like you are doing exactly that. Do they plan on removing the polyps? Ask for a second opinion and go to a teaching hospital for some answers. I'm doing that now for myself.
I caught my kidney cancer from bloated abdomen that kept getting larger and insisted on scans till finally someone listened to me. You need to advocate and push push push! It's your life and you deserve answers. -
Thanks Bogie- I intend to keep pushing for answers.
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Bogie-so glad to hear things are going well. Your positive attitude is amazing and inspiring. xo
Ginger-prayers and positive thoughts being sent your way.
Here's to a healthy 2013!
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Happy New Year everyone!
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Happy New Year ladies - here is to a happy, healthy 2013!!
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Happy new year my wonderful support sisters. Hope everyone is well.
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My ooph is scheduled for Jan 31st - I could use a couple 'it wasn't so bad' reassurances again if you don't mind coddling me for a little bit. I'm stressing a little more about it than I did the bmx for some odd reason. Maybe because it feels optional, even though I really don't think it is, but I knew I'd need radiation if I didn't have the BMX soon after chemo.
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Faith - had my ooph 8/30 along with the TE exchange (and chemo port removal). Here is what I noticed....none of these surgeries were bad, but being 3 weeks out of chemo, I felt knocked back about 5 weeks by the anesthesia (5 hours of surgery). It took about a month to get back to how I was feeling 3 weeks out of chemo. As far as the ooph (I hope you have a gyn/oncologist doing it?), done laproscopicly....I say this was easy peasy. I think this surgery took 1/2 hour or so. Given our BRCA status, the surgeon looks around for any sneaky cancers within and on the peritoneum and as usual, sends all to pathology. For about a day, I carried around an extra 10 lbs of water weight in my abdomen but the incisions (3?) were not even noticeable, nor did they hurt at all. I think of all the surgeries you have endured, you will think this one is a piece of cake. xo
Are you taking out the uterus, given you're on Tamoxifen, or are you going on an AI after the ooph? I somewhat regret not doing an complete hysterectomy, in case I wanted to try Tamoxifen. I hate the SE's of the one AI I have tried, thus far.
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Thanks Kam! Not sure why I'm anxious today, hopefully I'm better tomorrow. Yes, my gyn that I've had for 12 years and that first referred me for my lump will be doing it. I have a lot of trust in him, but listing the pros and cons I didn't opt for the laproscopic method. The pros for the bikini cut line being, only twilight anesthesia and they would not need to pump me up with all the bloat. Considering I've had full anesthesia 4x since 12/21 of last year, that pushed me towards this choice. Maybe thats what I'm second guessing....i've had so few choices in this entire process.
Just the ovaries, although he does keep bringing up the uterus. Yes, I'll go on AI after the ooph. What kind of side effects have you been having? With Tamoxifen I have hotflashes at night and slowed hair growth. The first month I was a little emotional and paranoid - i blame Tamoxifen for that bit of craziness, but it was really only that first month that I seemed so off.
How are you? Have you stopped working? I know you are going to do great things with the time
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Faith - I retired and Friday was my first day. It is wonderful so far!
I'm surprised you're going with a cut? How does that get you less anesthesia? The bloat, honestly, lasted only a day, day and a half. It wasn't uncomfortable, but I was just alarmed when the scale shot up 10 lbs! What is your feeling about anesthesia - is there some lifetime limit or risk you are worried about?
The only thing that I can say about the uterus is my MO was questioning why I didn't have my uterus taken out (after the fact, which was a little bit surprising and why didn't she mention it to me before?). My gyn MO did not want to take it out, and various posters here said the uterus led to some "support" of the organs, while other said they noticed no difference after removal, i.e. incontinence. The MO wanted to try me on Tamoxifen, since I have had SEs with Exemestane, but I wasn't excited to add uterine cancer to the cancer worry list - don't we have enough?
I've been on Exemestane since mid August. At first I got hot flashes and a bit of insomnia. The hot flashes have gone away, but since November, I've been dealing with stiff finger joints and trigger fingers. I think it is from swelling and there is so little tolerance for the tendons. Last night I wore wrist braces and had my first morning without these symptoms. I also took a Celebrex yesterday, so the combo may have helped. Not a drug I want to take on a regular basis. I was honestly getting to the point I needed to switch drugs, but when my MO suggested it in November, I was determined to keep trying because I only saw similar symptoms here on BCO with the other AI's, even Tamoxifen. My hot flashes passed, so I thought maybe this hand thing would too. Not sure it has, but I'm doing everything possible, including changing my diet to full on anti-inflammatory, dairy-free, 95% less gluten than before...90% of my diet is made up of fruits and greens (like kale, chard, lettuce, cabbage, the tops of carrots & beets). Anything that counteracts inflammation (and cancer). btw, it takes a Vitamix to eat this way, imo.
The other symptom I seem to have is hair thinning, but since I went from dyed hair pre-chemo to my natural silver color as it grows out, maybe my scalp is just more evident with the color and shortness of my hair. Atleast I have no bald spots, but I am worried about my head of hair!
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Faith- I agree with Kam. I had my lapsroscopic ooph in dec 2011. It was my 4th surgery in 8 months. Recovery was so easy. No incisions to deal with, the gas was not bad at all. It felt fine when I was lying still and kind of like I had done too many sit ups when I moved. Just sore. Not really painful. After a few weeks I did have some hot flashes and night sweats but not too bad.
The AI, however, definitely gave me a stiff and achy body and joint pain. Like a 90 year old. I have been off it for about 10 weeks and will be seeing my onc next week to see what's next.
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Hey Ginger ....Faith. Just telling it like it is. Hope this helps.....
I'm not sure about this, but perhaps they pump you full of air so they can see things? I also had to do the ducolax, magnesium citrate, no eating thing the day before the laproscopy. My surgeon is a major ovarian cancer researcher and she told me explicitly, she would be going in there looking for anything suspicious.
As far as the "air," I thought the one colonoscopy I had was 10x more uncomfortable, post-operatively, than the laproscopy. I certainly wouldn't trade this experience for an incision. In fact, I found the chemo-port insertion and extraction (that day) far more annoying than the saplingo-ooph.
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Kam- my surgeon did not even require the prep which made me happy!
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Thank you Kam and Ginger! I think maybe I am so anxious because I am second guessing my choice. I went in assuming that it would be the laproscopic, but then got swayed. I do believe the actual cut is his preference because at the time I could see pros and cons to each and let him influence me. For the twilight versus anestesia, I knew that twiglight is an easier recovery for me. No sore throat or tight lungs from the tube, my digestive system doesn't get as screwed up. And, for my reconstruction they have been taking fat from everywhere so I have all the little incision sites all over. They've healed and are still fading but that played into it - didn't want any more holes. I'm also freaked out over staying overnight, which I guess is the case either way. This is me, who had a BMX with fat grafting reconstruction as an outpatient and was less scared. I think I'm going to call the surgery coordinator to see what it would take to switch.
Kam - do you have anything fun planned? Have you taken up any hobbies you always wished you could do?
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Nothing fun planned Faith. It's been pretty icy and snowy around here, so for now, just pleased I don't have to do major snow removal to get to work. The whole retirement thing came on so suddenly (I was part of a group that got a last minute buyout), so I didn't have time to process the thought of it, or savor the upcoming date. In fact, I still have to go in and clean out my office.
It sounds like you are trading one type of negative (the affects of heavy anesthesia versus the affects of an incision). My BMX incisions never bothered me, unlike my chemoport incision (not greatly, but noticeably). Not sure if the ooph incision is more like which? Though my guess is that with a bikini cut, they have to go through muscle and that would make a whole lot of difference. Does your surgeon do laproscpies? I just can't imagine why he would push for the other if he did.
Let's just put it this way, of the 4 surgeries I had last year, the easiest, hands down, the laproscopic ooph.
btw, have you heard this discussion vis a vis the brca cancers start in the fallopian, not the ovaries?? Some are trying to get their doctors to only remove the tubes, not the ovaries. Not sure I believe this and then there is always the ER+ to consider, but for the TN's, this might be what they're thinking about.
P.S. I was not suppose to stay in hospital overnight (or so they told me) for ooph, TE exchange and port removal, but they decided to keep me as surgery got a late start and they didn't want to send me home at 9 at night. My guess is that the ooph, alone, would be outpatient.
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Hi Faith-I had my ooph in March last year. I had the robotic surgery (out patient) and was in and out in 6 hours which was important as I did not want another overnight in the hospital. I have two teeny tiny scars. I'm now on AI which makes me feel like I'm 80. You'll do fine regardless of whihch type of surgery you go with-sounds like your gyn knows you well.
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