Sept 2012 chemo

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  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited December 2012

    Jojo... Yea a few tears might just flow from me as well its a bittersweet ending to a crazy year!



    Hopex.. I want some lobster bisque...lol



    Cocobean... I dont think life will ever be our old normal seems foreverchanged knew what she was doing when she created her name... We will have a normal life again but I think its gonna be a new kinda normal.. But I too hope mine includes loosing weight cause chemo has put back on what it took me awhile to get off....lol I wanna ride my bike again!

  • Foreverchanged72612
    Foreverchanged72612 Member Posts: 223
    edited December 2012

    Oooo, that'll be my name once we're all done treatment...thenewnormal!!!!

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited December 2012

    Oh I am soooo looking forward to the new normal lol :)

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited December 2012
  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited December 2012

    Forever, YES YES YES!



    I saw on the hair, hair, hair thread they refer to the first new hair as baby ostrich hair. So true!

  • butterfly14
    butterfly14 Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2012

    Jojo - I have 1/8 "stubble" hair, keep checking everyday to see if anymore growth....How long since last chemo to "baby ostrich" hair?

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited December 2012

    Butterfly, I just noticed baby ostrich hair this past week. Nothing on sides, just on top. I am 3 weeks out from last chemo. I also have the 1/8 inch stubble that remained. This fuzz is mixed in with those. Mine is hard to see cause its so light, but at the right angle in the mirror I see it.

  • butterfly14
    butterfly14 Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2012

    thanks Jojo, I am so anxious to get my hair back

  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited December 2012

    Timbek -The oopherectomy/hysterectomy is because BRCA positive and my family history and chances of getting ovarian cancer or uterine cancer. And I don't want none of that and also my MO recommended....



    I have this severe cold I called the office and they said to take musinex anybody else taking anything for cough ... I don't wanna be sick for. New Years



    For New Years we always get together here to receive the year together so we will be dancing and doing gangnam style ....and cheering to 2012 great year thanking for all the good time I had...went on cruise with my DH and DD.... Party every weekend had a romantic ghetto away to Houston with DH ...new job opportunity made good money... My DD graduated from high school... Bought her a new car and she even got a job... I got to see the support that family has for me ... And thankful that this BC was found on time!!!!......so yes it was a great year ..... Now it will be better 2013.... So cheers my ladies and i will be praying that everyone has a great New Year.... And I'm also thankful to have found great warriors ... I promise that without you I would be lost today .... Every word was taken deeply in to my heart





    No one wants to go to Vegas????

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited December 2012

    Patricia, you know I am going sister! Will dance gangnam style with you there in July 2013! Hope your feeling better soon. Muy besos!

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited December 2012

    I changed my avatar so you can see my hair 5.5 weeks pfc. It's very fine still but you can see mine is already curly. The curl is good at this short length, imho, because it looks like there's more than there actually is... :)

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited December 2012

    Thx allurbad, u are giving us hope! I just posted my new wig, not the same at all.

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited December 2012

    jojo, I think your photo & hair look glamorous!

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2012

    Allurbad, yay, seeing your grow out gives me hope. I don't want to be in a wig this summer. Did you have curly hair before?



    JoJo..You are one sexy mamma! You look like your 12. I need a new wig too. Mine is getting doll hairish on the ends.



    Had my last taxol on Thursday and so far no bone pain and very little neuropathy. So happy. Feel good. Went on a 20 minute walk. Hope I feel this good tomorrow. I may even do the gangnam style. Whoo hoo!

  • kidsandlabs
    kidsandlabs Member Posts: 138
    edited December 2012

    Hair, cant wait for it! Jojo- you looking gorgeous! Allurbad, thanks for letting us know what we have to look forward to. Really missing my hair and eyebrows.  

  • amylovesbubby
    amylovesbubby Member Posts: 53
    edited December 2012

    Anyone have their chemo drug changed? I had 4 AC and 2 of 4 taxotere MO wants to change to abraxene......said less side effects but as effective. Why wouldn't they just give that instead?

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited December 2012

    Usually a switch to Abraxene is made when a patient is experiencing many side effects from Taxotere.  Abraxene is more expensive than Taxotere; and some insurance companies will approve reimbursement for it only after it is documented by the oncologist that a patient should not receive Taxotere due to side effects.  

    Here is some info from the BCO.org main website about Abraxane which provides an explanation as to what difference is between Taxotere and Abraxane.

    The taxanes Taxol and Taxotere use solvents to dissolve paclitaxel, the main ingredient, so the medicine can enter the bloodstream. These solvents may make Taxol and Taxotere difficult to tolerate while being given. People usually take pre-medications to minimize reactions to the solvents. Instead of a solvent, the paclitaxel in Abraxane is suspended in albumin, a protein, which may make it easier to take without the need for pre-medication.

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited December 2012

    # 5 Taxol on Wed.  Mild joint aches.  Great Christmas because son and daughter-in-law came with three grandchildren, 6,6,8.  Great fun with kids, but two days were plenty.  Lots of attention from two other children and one son in law.  Family is wonderful.  Helps you remember what we are struggling to live for.

    Advice?  Have had 19 appointments for chemo and oncologist and oncologist nurse at cancer clinic. Except for about 3 times, I have waited 40 min to an hour and a half for each "appointment."  That's before I get in to the infusion section or to see the oncologist or nurst--more wait inside.

    I will have 8 or 9 more apointments before going for radiation.

    Should I tell the oncologist how I feel? I have thought about changing oncologists and moving to MD Anderson which is about 15 minutes further away.  I also would never recommend them because of the waits which I think shows disrespect.  I like the oncologist and chemo nurse, but I find that just going to the clinic now makes me angry, resentful, and unhappy.  The wait for a 10 am apt last Wed was one hour,  Shall I just keep quiet, suck it up, and give them bad reviews on line?  Am I making too big a case of this? 

  • amylovesbubby
    amylovesbubby Member Posts: 53
    edited December 2012

    Thank u melrose! Makes me feel better. Leg was twitching during infusion, now I twitching and numb toes /fingers......that's why the change. Oh and severe bone pain.



    Cindy, I would say something. If they over schedule that's their problem, just because we have cancer doesn't mean we don't have a life! I have never waited more than 15 min. Plus you will feel better and if they are not apologetic, make they extra drive if u can.....less stress is better :)

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited December 2012

    amylovesbubby- You are okay, girlfriend.  Your onco is just looking out for you and trying to find ways to help your time with chemo be a little more tolerable for you.  Hang in there!!!!  You're almost done!!!!  :) 

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2012

    Cindi..I would definitely say something to your oncologist. Having this cancer is stressful enough and then having to wait for so long for most of your appointments is just inexcusable, especially at 10:00 a.m.



    Amy..I agree with Melrose. I had 4 taxol at the end and really been having the side effects. Neuropathy and that dreaded bone pain. My MO reduced the amount of taxol last week (my last one) and what a difference. Your almost done!! Yay. Have you had surgery yet?

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited December 2012

    Thank you Hope and Amy.  Have a Happy New Year.  Hopefully 2013 will be a better year.

    Melrose,, you always have been a good shepherd here.

  • amylovesbubby
    amylovesbubby Member Posts: 53
    edited December 2012

    Hopex3.....yes I had lumpectomy in July. If I would have known I was triple negitive I would have made a diff choice, but both surgeon and MO say we made the right decision.



    Melrose, how did u handle taxotere?



    Happy new year!!!! So many plans for the 2013.....rads then moving on :)

  • butterfly14
    butterfly14 Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2012

    Cindi - my dh goes to every appointment with me and he actually brought up the ridiculous wait times with my MO. MO took care of my wait time, now I don't wait more than 5 to 10 minutes.

    Good luck!!

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited December 2012

    Butterfly... Good for your Dh! Hes a good man.. I love that my dh goes to every appt, I would def not want to travel this road without him. Wondering though how it will be with rads since it will be quite hard for him to go everyday for six weeks....



    Does anyone know if you need a driver for rads or is this something that is managable on our own?

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited December 2012

    amylovesbubby-  I had minimal side effects with my chemo.  I did prepare myself for my chemo by educating myself on possible side effects and ways to help prevent or minimize the side effects.  I kept a daily diary of foods, fluids and drugs that I ate/drank/took everyday so I could figure out what was working best for me.  I iced and used Essie Three in One Top Coat & Essie fingernail polish to help prevent nail damage.  I also wear rubber gloves to wash dishes and when I use cleaning products; and also learned not to use my fingernails as tools ( open cardboard boxes/ remove staples).  Those things did help the nails since I didn't have any nail lifting and only have 6 ridges on each fingernail denoting each chemo round and some very faint nail discoloration.  The taste buds did go on vacation with every round of chemo but I would eat even though things did not always taste great.  I view eating as a means to fuel my body and give it the right nutrients, etc and not as a source of comfort.  Yes, I did treat myself now and then with a small square of Whole Foods Tiramasu but would eat that small square over a several day period.  My hair (everywhere head, arms, legs, nose, you name the place) did leave but it has come back.  I lost my eyebrows and bottom eyelashes after I had my 6th round of chemo but they came back within a few weeks.  My head hair has come in even and straight and the same colors as it was before I chemo ( black/brown/some grey.)  I am not taking any Biotin supplements which is supposed to help with the hair growth.  I use Nioxin shampoo and conditioner ( I have no idea if that helps or not).  I did have some neuropathy during chemo.  My fingers would cramp on occasion when I had them in certain positions ( like stirring something).  I would just stop what I was doing and would wiggle/move my hands and fingers to help with the cramping.  My feet also would cramp up and I would massage/move them to help with that.  My joints hurt during the last rounds of chemo and continued to do so post chemo.  Recently, everything seems to feel a lot of better-- not as many aches and pains as I had while I was having chemo.  The pain and stiffness always seemed to go away once I would get up and move around.

    If you let me know you are having a bit of a struggle with the Taxotere side effects, perhaps I can make some suggestions to you as to what you can do.  Just let me know.  I know having chemo and its wonderful side effects is not easy to deal with.  Once you are finished, it will take some time for your body to start the healing process from the chemo.  Try to be easy and patient with yourself even though I know you will be anxious to do the things you haven't been able to do for a while.  No matter what it is all good.....

    Hugs to you and all here!!!!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited December 2012

    Amy4978-  All of my gal pals who have had rads drive themselves to/from rads and are just fine doing that.

  • Cocobean
    Cocobean Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2012

    Melrose, I have been trying to walk as much as I can during chemo, I had my 5th tx and my 6th (last) will be on Wed. I have noticed with number 4 and 5 that my muscles ache when I walk. Did you experience this and does it go away? I am anxious to try to get back into an exercise routine after chemo...just wondering if you have any insight...thank you. 

  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited December 2012

    Melrose:  The information on solvents was quite an eye-opener.  I am having some terrble neuropathy.  My toes are pretty much numb all of the time.  My fingers are okay this round.  The bottoms of my feet are super tender and sore - and I have developed these really odd callouses all over the balls of my feet.  It kind of makes me angry that their was possibly a chemo drug that would have done the same job but possibly would have had less side effects and I might not have been given it because my insurance feels it costs too much.  Oh well.  I guess I should just let that go.  Only one round leftFrown

     



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  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited December 2012

    Cocobean-  There have been times when I feel like little old lady and can barely move after sitting/laying down.  If I sit down too long or when I get up in the morning and then stand up, my feet hurt initially.  I have to wait a second or two to get steady on my feet since I'm afraid I'll just fall down or my legs will collapse from under me.   I know the chemo muscles aches/pains are no fun and make it difficult to want to move.  I know that I became more easily winded after the 4th round which doesn't make moving around or walking up stairs easy.  However, once you are PFC, the aches/pains and winded feeling subside.  The being out of breath may be from having low red blood counts ( anemia).  I tried to prevent a further drop in the red blood counts by eating more red meat and green leafy veggies.  I did a little research by going to the livestrong.com website and put in a search of " Foods to Increase Red Blood Counts".  

    I still have some minor aches/pains which I believe is from the Tamoxifen that I started in September 2012.  My feet do sometimes ache first thing in the morning before I get out of bed.  I try to wiggle those toes and rotate my ankles while sitting on the side of the bed before I actually stand up.  You do have so much to look forward to being PFC--- getting to move more easily will just make you feel better emotionally and physically.  Just remember that the first few weeks after your last chemo will be like the weeks you have after chemo.  So try not to get disappointed that you don't feel immediately better after your last chemo.  There will one day that you wake up and you suddenly realize that you feel good and you have come through to the other side!!!!

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