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  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited March 2012

    Sounds like a good plan Cherilynn!

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited March 2012

    My dgtr was dx with diabitis one about 2 yrs ago---so she and I bought cookbooks for that reason, well I stupidly didn't follow it but I'm glad she does. And when she cooks it really tastes good, I don't cook tho and u have to prepare these food. She's not a dessert eater so that helps--I am and it doesn't help. So it's possible I know to cut out sugars and the food that turns into sugar in u'r body---which I really never knew so many foods turned into sugar--so here's luck to all of us.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited March 2012

    All food turns to sugar in your body, Cami.   With diabetes, the trick is to choose foods that turn SLOWLY (like complex carbs vs simple carbs).  Protein also digests more slowly.  Sugar and white foods tend to digest the fastest (so they have a quick burn and spike your sugar levels most).

    Avoiding sugar and white foods is one quick and easy way to solve the issue short term (even if you don't cook much). 

    Type One Diabetes is a different issue, however.  Type One (which I think you said is what your daughter has) must be controlled with Insulin because the body does not make insulin with which to process sugar.  I'm sure your daughter is on this!  You can't control Type One Diabetes with diet alone.  You MUST use insulin.  Type Two Diabets, which I have, is a breakdown of the process (the communication between Insulin and sugar in your body - though it can also be about not production enough Insulin as a rule Type Two diabetics DO make insulin, it's just not getting to/processing the sugar) so medication other than insulin is often useful along with diet control (to limit the spikes of sugar in your system).

  • cowgal
    cowgal Member Posts: 833
    edited April 2012

    Has anyone tried one of the low glycemic diets such as The G.I. (Glycemic Index) Diet or the Belly Fat Cure or any of the other ones?  It just seems for estrogen/progesterone positives that a low glycemic diet is one of the best ways to go. For those of you that have tried it, what do you think?

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited April 2012

    I'm on the low glycemic diet/anti cancer diet, which eliminates all white carbs and sugar.  I've been on it for six months and have had great results.  I have lost 15 lbs. and feel and look a lot better.  I had a lot more energy as a result.  

    There have been two segments on TV recently about the dangers of too much sugar.  The Sixty Minutes segment on Sunday, and a recap on Good Morning America about all of the hidden sugars in processed foods along with the removal of fiber, which causes the body to assimilate it differently than before.  The average person consumes 130 lbs of sugar a year...seems impossible!  It is the primary cause of diabetes and heart disease, and has also been linked to some cancers, breast being one of them.  Sugar should be viewed as our enemy.

    The remedy...eat an apple rather than drinking apple juice....eat an orange, but don't drink orange juice, because you don't get the fiber in the juice and it goes right to the liver and causes fatty deposits. 

  • Cherilynn64
    Cherilynn64 Member Posts: 342
    edited April 2012

    Because I was such a white sugar junkie, I really had to look in to how stop sugar after the cancer diagnosis. And although I don't have type 2 diabetes, it's on both sides of my family (unlike cancer which is nowhere but in yours truly). So I figured following a diabetic type diet would kill 2 birds with one stone. I look at glycemic index for sure now. I make my own smoothies every day with whole fruits including the peel on apples and pears. I squeezed some juice from navel oranges to make muffins (in a diabetic cookbook), and I saved the pulp and threw that in tonight's smoothie. 

    I'm still subbing coconut sugar for white sugar for baking as it has a lower glycemic index. 

  • Cherilynn64
    Cherilynn64 Member Posts: 342
    edited May 2012

    Ooooh, Hadley, great idea!!! I have to try this now!!

    Cheri 

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited May 2012

    Hadley:  What a great idea.  Red velvet happens to be my favorite dessert so I would definitely give that a try!  Imagine my horror when Bluebell just advertised their new Red Velvet Cake ice cream:(

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited May 2012

    When I was dx'd with BC in September 2011, I was so anxious I ate most of the Costco-sized bag of Halloween candy DH had brought home.

    Then I read about sugar "feeding" cancer and freaked out so badly that I ate most of the second bag! We had to go buy more for the trick-or-treaters.

    I just posted on another thread that I've been on Optifast for two months. I'm off all my meds except for thyroid. I'm down 22 pounds on the program, for a total of 35 pounds down from my highest weight. I have 35 more pounds to go.

    I get four shakes, one soup, and one nutritional bar for a total of 960 calories a day.

    A few weeks into the program, people started complimenting me on my skin - how it glowed.

    The following week, I got a burst of energy which took me back into the gym, and out riding my bike.

    But the biggest change that I noticed - aside from the above (and the weight loss) is that most of my fibromyalgia pain is gone!

    I no longer get out of bed all hunched over and limping from joint pain!

    I think it has more to do with eliminating the whites - sugar, flour, and - maybe gluten? from my diet.

    I have two more months on Meal Replacement, then we start Transition (adding back in foods) in July. I'm going to be VERY careful about what I add back in, especially since I will be starting Arimidex after that!!!Surprised

  • XmasDx
    XmasDx Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2012

    Hi all -- I have a lot of catching up to do reading this thread, but I just had to hop on here to tell you all that I have found the best summer recipe for "ice cream"  -- it's vegan, gluten-free, sugar-free, sweetener-free, and fab.u.lous.

     The only thing you need is a food processor.  This is not optional (a blender will not work).

    Ripe bananas + peanut butter + cocoa powder.   That's it. 

    Slice the ripe bananas and freeze them flat on a cookie sheet (I use wax paper on it).  Then put them in the food processor, lots of "scraping down" may be involved.  I add a touch of milk or almond milk to get things going, but not much.  

     It turns into "soft serve ice cream" texture, then add the PB and cocoa powder, blend again and eat.  So good.

    Leftovers can go in the freezer, I thawed about 15 minutes before diving in.  As the blogger says, now you can have ice cream for breakfast.  I love this stuff.  Now I'm happy when my bananas start to get a tad too ripe (I usually eat them on the green side...)  Let me know if you try it!!  DH wants me to try it with strawberries instead of the peanut butter, we'll see!

    http://userealbutter.com/2010/08/12/single-ingredient-ice-cream-recipe/ 

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Cheri, I have the same "problem" at the moment, I have gotten a bit too scrawny.



    Buckwheat is low glycemic and apparently good for bc patients. So look also for soba noodles.



    Buckwheat pancakes. Make them with kefir and berries and skip the syrup. I find that some cinnamon and lemon zest make it seem like they are sweet, although they really aren't.



    Quinoa is high in protein and calories. I make it into salads with different veggies, and either shrimp or flaked salmon or chicken. For a dressing I put a clove of garlic and a bunch of parsley in the blender with the juice if a lemon and some olive oil.



    I make the same thing with small, green lentils as well.



    Cowgal, I try to stick with low-GI foods as much as possible.

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited July 2012

    Still doing well on Optifast....down 44 pounds, 15 or 20 more to go.

    Energy is off the charts. I honestly have not felt this good in the past 20 years. I don't think it's solely the weight loss and exercise; I still believe it's the lack of white sugar, white flour, and gluten in my diet.

    On July 11th it will be four months since I've eaten any regular food. This has been an incredible opportunity for an elimination diet for me. On that day, we will slowly introduce real food back into our diets, starting with 4 oz of protein and half a cup of steamed veggies a day. Over the next 30 weeks, we will slowly replace each shake with some form of real food, like protein, veggies, fruit, and dairy.

    The carbs will be the very last thing we get, because SO many people have problems with them. We will use the American Diabetes Association guidelines for low-glycemic foods.

    This will allow me to be really picky about what I put in my system from here on.

    (BTW, I'm off ALL my meds, and all my lab results are now normal.)

    ETA: I do still take a thyroid pill.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited July 2012

    Blessings:  That is such great news!  You bet your life it's the gluten free, sugar free, white carb free diet that is giving you the extra energy.  You could eliminate the white carbs and sugar forever and it would not hurt you.  All that stuff converts to sugar and lower energy levels.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited July 2012

    Such wonderful progress Blessings!

    But surely you are still taking Arimidex too ;)

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited July 2012

    Thank you, Kaara!

    Actually, Lilah, I got a reprieve from Arimidex!!! I had filled the Rx, then started checking Optifast. When my MO cleared me for the program, she told me to hold off taking the Arimidex so that if I experienced any side effects from the Optifast, we would know exactly where they was coming from.

    Once I start back on Transition (adding food back in) I'm sure I'll be taking the estrogen-sucking drug as soon as my MO finds out where I stand in the program. Undecided

    NOT looking forward to that...praying that I'm one of those women who have no or few side effects.

    I'd hate to lose this healthy feeling, all for the sake of reducing my .77% (yes, less than 1%) risk factor by another 50% with the AI.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited July 2012

    Wow -- you're already at 1% without the Arimidex?  I didn't realize they prescribed it even for an ER+ that is that low!

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited July 2012
    I have Cherilynn's problem; I need to maintain my weight.  I've never had a sweet tooth and rarely added sugar to anything; not a big bread eater, although I do like pasta; and what-the-heck is corn syrop?  No, seriously, I've never heard of it?

    So, I've been struggling to come up with healthy ways to maintain my weight without having to curb my current activity level.  My trails hikes are, simply, too necessary to my emotional well-being!  I don't think a little sugary treat once-in-awhile is going to prove problematic, but I do need some ideas on how to bulk up with healthy, whole foods.  I already eat whole-wheat pasta and most fruits, but - since I don't like meat - are protein shakes a good alternative?  Or are they traps of massive hidden sugars?
  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited July 2012

    Corn Syrup is a sugar derivative that is added to most processed foods to make them taste better.  It shouldn't be.  It adds sugar when we don't need it.  

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2012

    Here's a detailed explanation of corn syrup.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_syrup

    Here in the US, high fructose corn syrup is in everything from soft drinks to salad dressings, ketchup, many low fat products (making them sweet makes them palatable, at least that is the theory).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fructose_corn_syrup

    There has been increased awareness in the nastiness of HFCS and some food processors are starting to move away from it.  I avoid anything that has HFCS in the first few ingredients.

  • Cherilynn64
    Cherilynn64 Member Posts: 342
    edited July 2012

    Selena, you're lucky - I grew up on white bread and tons of sugar (our family went through  2 liter bottle of Dr Pepper or Coke etc every day and all we had in our house was candy everywhere). I wish I hadn't grown up addicted to all that crap. So when I cut that out in January, I was left feeling like, great, what will put/keep weight on me now? And I donl't eat meat either.

    I did get a recommentation from a breast cancer recent survivor on a special protein supplement you can mix in and she says it's put 3 pounds back on her (she's thin also). I just ordered it today to try, so if it puts weight on me AND it tastes somewhat decent, I will let you know so you can maybe try it. At this point I'll about try anything. I also exercise regularly for health and to ward off any potential tamoxifen circulatory side effects, so I won't give that up either. At least it helps build muscle, so that's good, but I can't afford to lose weight when exercising either.

     Cheri

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Xylitol.

    It's natural so no chemicals like nutra sweet.

    It is carb-less.

    I love it.

  • 3Cbrca
    3Cbrca Member Posts: 16
    edited August 2012

    I'm insulin resistant and afte br ca started eating "white food" like crazy. I'm now following a reduced carb diet. I've found excellent low carb recipes on the About.com and other low carb websites, using things like almond flour and other healthy alternatives to flour. A lot of the recipes do call for splenda, but otherwise healthy. The amazing thing is there are really tasty recipes for brownies and pound cake ( not low calorie). I now make a batch of one of these on the weekends and allow myself one or two treats a day. The good thing is that I don't crave carbs (sugar) because they don't cause the spikes in blood sugar that cause the cravings. I'm down 15 pounds and feeling so much better and reducing my risk fot recurrance!

  • Cherilynn64
    Cherilynn64 Member Posts: 342
    edited August 2012

    3Cbrca - congrats on the weight loss and finding all these healthy alternaives to bake with! I use coconut sugar to bake with on occasion as it's better on the glycemic index, too, but I have mainly gone to fruit and no sugar of any kind added. Also use maple sugar sparingly for oatmeal. I'll have to check out the recipes for low carb brownies, I would kill for those ha! Giving up white sugar has really bene beneficial for me and I'm so glad to see it's working for you too. When I'm on vacation or having dinner with people, I just tell them I'm treating myself like a diabetic. Most people understand why I'm doing it so that helps.

    Cheri 

  • nancym712
    nancym712 Member Posts: 51
    edited August 2012

    I too have found that if I give up sugar, wine, whatever, the cravings go away.  But I'm a firm believer in everything in moderation.  So, I'll have a glass of wine in a social setting and I sometimes eat sweets but not often.  I can't eat chocolate after about noon because I'm so sensitive to caffeine ( can't sleep even more than usual) so that's been a big help.  I really think not keeping what you can't have in the house is a good tactic and everything in moderation.

  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited December 2012

    Is this thread still active?  Maybe not with the holidays upon us!

    I've been doing low carb for a year and a half.  I have firm resolve, but I still get cravings.  It seems that artificial sweeteners just make me crave them more. What's a girl to do?

    Today, I'm going to make some cream cheese "muffins". Actually, they are more like mini sugar free cheesecakes.  A good go-to for the fridge this holiday season.

  • Cherilynn64
    Cherilynn64 Member Posts: 342
    edited December 2012

    Zogo those sound good, how did they turn out?

    I'm still using coconut sugar for baking and for oatmeal etc. I still have crazy sugar cravings but I try to eat blueberries or clementine oranges when I get them. Clementines are nice bc they are sweet and easy to peel. I have had good success making banana bread with both blueberries and chocolate chips (not in the same batch LOL), and they taste great with coconut sugar and whole wheat pastry flour. I also made a cobbler with it. I have been trying regular dessert recipies and just subbing coconut for white or brown sugar and most things come out ok. 

    Soemthing that can sub for cheesecake, now that I want to try!

  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited December 2012

    Hi CL, the "muffins" were quite tasty and a great treat when all others were having red velvet cake. Here is the recipe. 

    Cream Cheese Muffins


    2 x8oz. pks. philadelphia cream cheese
    1/2 cup sweetener (I use splenda)
    2 eggs
    1/2 tsp. vanilla

    Soften cream cheese about 40 seconds in microwave. Add other ingredients. Beat with mixer till smooth. Pour into 12 muffin pans lined with the papers. (I used sprayed silicone cups) Optional sprinkle with cinnamon.  Bake at 350 for 20 min.

    To reduce sinking centers: Bake only 18 minutes. Cool in oven with oven door open for 1/2 - 1 hour, then cover and cool on counter for 1/2 - 1 hour, then refrigerate. (Can use water bath; place shallow pan of water on lower shelf while preheating oven.)

    - Taste best chilled. Keeps well in refrigerator. Can be frozen.

    There are all kinds of variations on these that I have yet to try.

  • Cherilynn64
    Cherilynn64 Member Posts: 342
    edited December 2012

    Holy cow, thanks Zogo! I will give these a try and let you know what sweetner I use and how they turn out! I'm wishing I had these made for me right now! :-)

    Cheri

  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited January 2013

    Happy New Year!

    I've got my work cut out for me after gaining weight in December.

    Here is a variation of the recipe I tried ~ it is really good and more moist.

    2 x 8 oz packages cream cheese

    1/4 cup caramel flavor sugar free syrup

    1/4 cup sour cream

    2 eggs

    I just let the cream cheese sit on the counter to soften. Mix in sour cream and syrup, then eggs.

    Cook 20 minutes,  cool in open oven 30 minutes, on counter 30+ minutes to cool then cover and chill.

    These are very good.

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited January 2013

    Hi my name is fran

    I am trying to eat healthy

    I ate two brownies instead of dinner lastnight

    I wanted to go to fast food place twice, but my people talked me out of it

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