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  • Laura5133388
    Laura5133388 Member Posts: 577
    edited December 2012

    To all of you just starting: Chemo will not be as bad as you think, just take your anti-nausea drugs as directed and rest when you need to.  I see the mods have posted several great links, and for those of you concerned with losing your hair, be sure to click the link "Cold Cap Users Past and Present to Save Hair". I used cold caps and kept my hair. They are incredible.

  • Bryona
    Bryona Member Posts: 214
    edited December 2012

    Aw, SherylB, I'm sorry you're having a rough day. It's crazy how things just sneak up on us. I've been feeling oddly at peace with everything, and then one of my colleagues brought me a homemade Christmas gift and told me she loved me, and I totally burst into tears. I couldn't even tell you -- or her -- why. It just happens.

    I'm still having lots of swelling from my lumpectomy, too; they took out loads of tissue, but that breast is currently a bit bigger than the whole one. It's mostly numb, though, so I'm not in much pain, but I'm starting some PT soon for tightness in the left arm and chest. Are you doing anything for the cording problems?

    Sending lots of good thoughts and big hugs. You'll get through this.

    (((hugs)))

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    SherylB, there really is something to the anticipation build-up, and the let down of the hectic holidays being over. This is the best place to rant and rave. Sometimes I feel if I try to rant to DH it just makes me appear weak and pathetic.  :(

    I've felt a bit off today as well. Really didn't even seem myself over the holiday and couldn't grasp the whole spirit of things. It didn't feel as though the BC stuff was the cause of it all, but underlying I'm sure it is. I've been trying to coordinate getting a wig with my insurance company.  First I was told to call one number, they entered a claim and then said there wasn't a provider in my city - that I would have to find one and then call them with the information. I found a wig shop and called with the information, then also had had to call another number to ask for a special claim "foregiveness" (at least that's what I'm calling it). On Christmas Eve I get a call back from the insurance company saying they can't reach the wig shop and really that the shop should be contacting them because the insurer can't ask about personal information due to HIPAA. UGH!!!! I haven't even been to this place yet. Now I need to call the wig shop ask that they call the insurer and enter into some formal agreement to provide services. And all the while I still have to pay for the darn thing and ask for reimbursement from the insurance company. I asked them why the he!! I need to go through all of this, can't they just set a price and reimburse that much?!? I also told them it was in very bad form and I really wish they hadn't contacted me with this frustrating news on Christmas Eve. I started crying and hung up the phone to have my 11 year-old ask pleadingly what was wrong. The last time I started crying on the phone with her in the car I had just learned that my biopsy was postive for BC.

    Sorry, guess I needed to rant a little too. It is just exhausting that every thought, plan and process is now centered around BC treatment. Am I doing the right treatment, how much will it all cost, will I run out of leave at work, will I be able to keep up with work, what are the long term affects, what if, what if, what if . . . I'm just exhausted.

    Hang tough SherylB!

  • SherylB
    SherylB Member Posts: 450
    edited December 2012

    Bryona, Just stretching for the cording at this time. I am having my port put in Friday and will talk with my BS then. Due to the holidays it has been really hard to reach anyone and I am tolerating it pretty well. Yeah these emotional swings are rough. Since this is the most frightening thing I have ever faced I guess it is normal, at least for me.

    Thanks for the hugs and wishes. Sheryl

  • russell33
    russell33 Member Posts: 48
    edited December 2012

    Sheryl, I think we all deserve to whine.  This is such an emotional thing for all of us. That's why we are all here to listen to each other.  I was doing fine until a couple days ago.  I'm starting to feel really anxious, can't sleep, my breast is still sore and swollen.  Even though I went and had it checked and they say it's normal I think it sucks! i didn't have a period this this month and i wonder if that's why it's swollen.  I just have all these things going through my mind.  I'm so done with this already. I'm trying to stay positive but some days are hard.  I think it's becaue I'm getting closer to starting chemo.  I went and got all my prescriptions today and ordered some hats so it seems so sureal now.  We will all get through this.  I hope you have a better day tomorrow.  Many prayers and hugs to you.  Anne

  • SherylB
    SherylB Member Posts: 450
    edited December 2012

    Anne, I am with you on the breast soreness. Still having soreness and intermittent shooting pains. Still swollen, both breast and arm pit and some cording. I have full range of motion but think wow if I am reacting like this now how am I gonna deal with the chemo. From past experience I do deal I just really hate the friggin waiting. Spoke with my surgeon's nurse today who said " you will have some soreness". Cripes lady the surgery was 3 weeks ago and this is a bit more than sore. Bet she has never had her boob cut open!!. I think the worry that something may be wrong is what makes the discomfort an issue more so that it normally would. But why wouldn't I worry I sure didn't think I would have breast cancer either. Oh well we just have less than two weeks before we get our first chemo. I think, (notice I said think) I can handle the SE's I am just fearful of what they will be. Oh well, I have always been a worry wart so why should this be different. Thank you for the positive thoughts.

    Sheryl

  • carlads
    carlads Member Posts: 241
    edited December 2012

    Hi Everyone,

    I think we all have the post Christmas blues.  Went to my Chemo class today. I didn't find out anything new.  I start January 7th..  Still not sure if I should get a second opinion.  Just worried my treatment isn't aggressive enough.  If I hadn't been told one thing and then another maybe I wouldn't be questioning so much.. 

    My brain is seriously on over-load.  Other than that I physically feel good.  I am healing well.  Still sore but not bad. 

    I hope everyone has a good night.. 

    Prayers,

    Carla

  • Bryona
    Bryona Member Posts: 214
    edited December 2012

    Carla, I'm sorry you're struggling with second-guessing your treatment. For me, that just leads to obsessing, which leads to lots of stress and not nearly enough sleep. As if any of us needs more stress or less sleep!

    I'm sure that a certain amount of questioning is natural. Having said that, I'm a big fan of second opinions, mostly because I'm a big fan of finding a doctor I can trust enough to stop me from second-guessing everything. But that's what works for me. Only you know if a second opinion is the right thing for you.

    Just remember, your peace of mind matters. We're all carrying enough of a load as it is; none of us should be carrying extra worry if it's not necessary. If you think getting a second opinion will give you more confidence and make you feel better, you should go for it. 

    Trust your instincts, and take care of yourself. (((hugs)))

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited December 2012

    Hi Sheryl - I feel your pain !!! It is not an easy process but you will get through it . I go I for my first chemo treatment Thursday (tomorrow ). Looks like you will be doing same chemo drugs so I will be your link guinea pig haa!!! Right now I am feeling a bit hyped up from the steroid pills but I did take a Xanax ( anti anxiety pill ). And it is helping . I've a actually been taking a ( .5 mg ) every night since my dx - dr says not to worry about it now he will wean me off it later . It sure doeshelp me sleep and to stay calm and more positive during the day too .



    I will report back to the group this weekend - hopefully se's will not be too great .

    You've come to the right place for support . Advice and help - we will get through all of this together !!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Hi Sheryl, if you do go for a second opinion just be prepared that it possibly may not be the "light bulb" reaction that makes your choice easier. I got a second opinion, but not because I didn't like or trust my first MO. Mine was more about the treatment center as a whole. You will have more information overload and it may cause you more second guessing, but it could also reassure you in the treatment if they too feel you are getting the drugs that are best suited to your type of cancer. None of this is easy, but just look forward and think we will all be awesome this summer!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Sandra, thinking of you today and throughout the weekend, hoping for minimal SE's.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Sandra, thinking of you today and throughout the weekend, hoping for minimal SE's. big hug

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited December 2012

    I hate the paperwork. It seems as though they could streemline all of this and speed up the process. All of my initial visits with the various docs have been 2 hr visits. And most of it has been paperwork and going over the SAME info over and over again. I understand confirming info so they dont give you the wrong stuff, but, geeze... I found out that you need to be a pain in the ass. Call your docs to confirm papers, call ins companies for confirmation of referals and referal numbers. DONT wait for them to call you. If they give you a time line-hold them too it! It is your life!

    I feel a bit liberated that at some point during the chemo treatments I'm not going to have to shave! I actually am looking forward to that part of it. I am a bit freaked out about loosing my eyebrows and lashes though...

    I am cutting my very long hair today. My donation to Locks of Love makes me feel like I am helping a little girl feel pretty during her chemo journey. I figure I will get a short pixie cut and rock that until it comes out. I think the last time I had short hair I was 10. I'm sure the tears will fall and my sister is cutting hers too. Her hair is just as long as mine.

    Stay strong and vent, cry, scream, etc... when you need to. This is the biggest fight of our lives!

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited December 2012

    Good morning everyone!  I wanted to pop in and say hello.  I am an alumni (crazy word, I know!) of the January, 2012 chemo group.  I live in Michigan (am digging out as we speak) in Jackson, where I had both my chemo and rads (an amazing oncology group here - just got back from an MO appointment this morning, in fact).  I've been reading your stories and I remember so very many of the things you're feeling, even a year later.

    The anticipation was the worst.  My emotions were all over the place until the day of my first chemo; once I started "active" treatment I felt like I was doing something proactive and it really helped quell my fears and anxiety.  A little advice from someone who's been there, done that, got the ugly t-shirt:  pharmaceuticals are your friend right now - take whatever you need to help you through this time, whether it's for nausea, constipation, or anxiety.  I had a close, personal relationship with Xanax for several months, as well as Valium (for sleep) and Ativan (during treatments).

    I had side effects, to be certain; was blessed with NO nausea or vomiting, ever.  Instead I dealt with alot of exhaustion (a tiredness that you've never felt before).  If you're taking Neulasta shots, consider also taking Claritin (for some of us it helped counteract the potential bone pain).  Treatment is the hardest thing I've ever done, but I'm so proud of myself for going through it, enduring, and even celebrating. 

    You're all so incredible, remarkable, and beautiful.  You will get through this!  And there are so many of us here, supporting you and cheering you on.  Just let us know if you need anything along the way.

    Much love, light, and positive healing energy is coming your way.  Good luck and bless you all.

    Nancy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Nancy, thank you so much for the message. The anxiousness is definitely the hardest part. I just want it done. Lots of ladies talk about taking Claritin. Do you take one the night before, and then how many nights following treatment? We all have light at the end of the tunnel, it is just approaching the tunnel that is taking soooo long. Wink

  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited December 2012

    Dear all,

    I just wanted to drop in and tell you that I started chemo on January 16, 2009.  I was never more frightened of anything in my life.  It took all my will just to get in the car.  I had had a lumpectomy and had hoped that my oncotype score would come back low, but it was in the intermediate range, so I chose chemo.  

    Turned out that it was not as horrible as I thought it would be.  I was able to pretty much work through the 3 treatments, although I did feel often as though I had the flu.  I shaved my head about a week after the first treatment and wore a killer wig.... I was done by the end of February (I had 4x every other week).  Then moved onto radiation.

    I tell you this because right now it looms large for you and feels like the biggest thing ever--I am not trying to minimize it--side effects are different for everyone.  But trust me, it does end and things get better--way better!!!!!

    Best of luck-- good that you are all keeping each other company--you will get the best info from others here... 

    Good luck!!

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited December 2012

    Thanks nancy and momand2kids ! Very nice of you to check in and very reassuring to all of us !



    I am going for a walk/ run trivet now and will be ready to leave for chemo shortly - on with it !!

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited December 2012

    Good luck today Sandra!

    I took a 24-hour Claritin (not Claritin-D) about an hour before going to get my shot, and then for about five days after.  Never had a lick of pain because of the Neulasta!  Of course, maybe I wouldn't have had pain without the Claritin, but I wasn't willing to take that chance.

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited December 2012

    Ok sitting here at the infusion center in my reclining chair looking out a window with a nice fountain ! Warm blankets served and my request - this is not bad !

    I will get the taxotere next - having cytoxan now - no effect I can pin point . I will ice my nails during the taxotere - as recommended by other posters !



    To all of you scheduled for jan chemo - this is not bad so far ! Will report back with any side effects in a day or so !

  • russell33
    russell33 Member Posts: 48
    edited December 2012

    Sandra, so happy everything is going so good.  I wish you the best of luck with the rest of your infusion.  Looking forward to updates in a couple days.  Hugs, Anne 

  • carlads
    carlads Member Posts: 241
    edited December 2012

    Bryona, you are so right it is just adding more stress and less sleep.  I start Chemo on the 11th so I do have time to get another opinion.  My oncologist comes very highly recommended and I do like him, I was just so ready for the original plan then when it changed(for the better) after my surgical pathology  report I questioned everything.  I am still having the powerful Taxotere but no Adriamycin.  So T/C instead of TAC..

    Sandra, hope it went well today!

    Skigirl, I feel the same as you, losing my hair I can handle losing my eyebrows and lashes will be strange.. 

    We can do this ladies...

    Carla

  • Bryona
    Bryona Member Posts: 214
    edited December 2012

    Skigirl, try not to worry too much about brows and lashes. Lots of people don't actually lose those, even if they lose the hair on their heads. (Having said that, I admit to obsessing over the possibility of losing nose hair and having a runny nose for the next 6 months...) How did the haircut go?

    NancyHB and momand2kids, thanks for stopping by, for the encouragement, and for the advice.

    Sandra, happy to hear things are going well so far. Those warm blankets ARE wonderful! I wonder if I can order a view of a fountain, too... :) Keep us posted, and take good care of yourself.

    Carla, I meet with my MO Jan. 10, and I'm still hoping that somehow she'll say I can do TCH and not AC-TH. Did you have any lymph nodes involved or any LVI? Or did you have oncotype testing done?

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited December 2012

    My hair is short! My sister and I figures it's been 20 years since I had short hair. I think I like it, not that it will be around in a few weeks. lol... I just want to get this started so I will be one treatment closer to being done.

  • Bryona
    Bryona Member Posts: 214
    edited December 2012

    Skigirl, I think your new 'do looks adorable!

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited December 2012

    Hi there to all ! Still feeling pretty normal - no side effects so far and taxotere infusion went fine !

    Ski girl- the new do is really cute!

    Bryona - go with your gut instinct - sounds like you have N excellent oncologist !



    I will give a more full report Friday or Saturday . The nurses said the tiredness will kick in around day 3 and last for a few days and then I will be fairly normal again ! I think I can handle this and all of u can too :) !!!!

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited December 2012

    Thanks for the compliments on the hair!! It's a little poofy for me but that will be fixed tomorrow.  I am glad I did it. I hope it softens the blow when my hair starts to fall out... And the journey continues.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Skigirl, the cut looks super cute! Way to rock the short look.

  • Nanc620
    Nanc620 Member Posts: 38
    edited December 2012

    Hi to all,

    Thanks to you love alumni ladies for posting...and for you sisters who are just beginning.  My date is January 9th.  I actually had 3 opinions with oncologists.  The one that I absolutely LOVED is not who I am going to however because his treatment center was just ...cold.  Nothing warm and inviting about it at all.  So...those feeling do matter.  All three suggested the same regimen and all three are triple neg experts.  I'm doing T/C and have diecided to go with the flow.  I realized this afternoon that my hair will come back...last May I burned a pretty good size chunk while trying to flat iron it...and I came to the brilliant conclusion that if...if if...my hair comes back at the rate the burned hunk did I should be OK by late summer :-)  So...if I begin griping remind me OK??!!??

    Much love and snowy greeting from here in Michigan

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Good morning ladies! Sandra how are you feeling today?

    My first buff just arrived in the mail yesterday. Tried it on and I think I will look horrible bald. Tongue Out It really gives a good impression of hairlessness. Isn't much I can do about it though, but just roll on. I'm going to try and take a little control over the helplessness I've been feeling lately and heading to cycling today. I haven't had a good workout since pre-mx, and I was feeling really good and strong going in to, and even out of surgery. It is just the past month with all this waiting and being sick that has drug me down. Although not a lot of ramp up time to work out before first chemo next week, at least I can give my heart a little jump start.

    Also booked flights to Florida for DH and me in July when I get past all this first round. Just can't seem to feel excited about it yet because I'm too worried about trying to take the time off work after exhausting all my leave for treatment. But I need a happy escape and something to look forward to. When I was completing the paperwork for the genetics testing yesterday it asks for the current age, or age at death of all family members. My mom died from metastisized BC at the age of 47, which is just 6 years older than me. Although I know everything has come much further now and the doctors all say they got all the cancer and the chemo will kill all remaining cells, I couldn't help but get this dreadful feeling of "What if I only have 7 more years?"

    DH is always the strong one and does a lot to help around the house. But he is having some major back issues and has been down and out. I feel so helpless and can't do anything to make it better. Plus now I just keep thinking about who is going to take care of the household if I am really pulled down next week.

    Then my dad comes to me this morning, crying and saying he needs a hug because he has been so extremely stressed out over me and worried. Okay, sorry but he isn't going through this . . . I am! He has been living with us for the past year, but will be moving next week. I think he really wants me to ask him to stay, but there is a lot of pent up resentment there and I really just want my house back to myself to feel like shit whereever I want to and not have all eyes on me.

    I'm sorry to lay this all on you ladies . . . I have been feeling so angry lately. Just can't pull myself out of it. I don't necessarily feel depressed, just mad and hateful to everything around me.

  • Bryona
    Bryona Member Posts: 214
    edited December 2012

    skimommi, I hope you took that bike ride, and I hope it helped. For me, exercise is the #1 best way to vent that kind of pent up frustration, resentment, and anger.

    I also think you need to be free to feel how you feel. If that means you need to have your house back to yourself, then that's what you need. Even without any pent up resentment towards your dad for whatever has come in the past year, you'd have the right to put yourself and your needs first. I know I'm struggling with feeling like I have to stay positive for everyone, and even if no one else puts that burden on me, the fact that I put it on myself means it's tough to be around other people sometimes. I only feel safe throwing my pity-parties when it's a party of one. If my friends and family care, they need to respect that I need space. (And if they don't care, screw 'em.)

    Thinking about your mom must be really stressful. I'm sorry you have that extra burden. As if you need any extra burdens right now.

    I'm sure the trip to Florida will be great, but maybe it would help if you did something really nice for yourself right now. Something that you don't need to look forward to and therefore worry about. Maybe something that will make you laugh.

    (((((hugs)))))

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