December 2012 chemo group

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  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited December 2012

    My goodness I am happy xmas is over.  I ended up getting a cold on Monday and fought it all day xmas.  Now I have sores in the inside of my nose....ouchhhhh.  Today I still have a lot of back pain  and this feeling of laziness.  I feel like everyday it's something and it's getting old.  Off to PT hopefully that will put some pep in my step. 

  • Nicole503
    Nicole503 Member Posts: 295
    edited December 2012

    Sophiafred78 - I am starting AC the day before you and also find that my anxiety is starting to color my days more than I would like it too.  My nights too, apparently.  Last night I dreamed that I had completely forgotten where I parked my car (I work downtown) and I just knew it was because of "chemo brain".  I may actually decide to write down where I parked after my treatments, just in case!

    I am heading to work in a few minutes and must say that I am really looking forward to the absorbing task of creating year end data reports all day!  Wishing you good luck with your physical therapy!  At 4 weeks post surgery I was still fairly uncomfortable (not yet able to sleep on my side, etc) but there was marked improvement between 4 and 6 weeks.  Wishing the same for you.

    Wishing easy and straightforward treatment to Runner, Steiner and anyone else going in today, and wishing the same for me tomorrow!

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2012

    Just took the weirdest shower of my life. It was the first shower and hair washing since Friday (because of port surgery). I knew my hair was on borrowed time but there was still a little side of me thought that maybe just maybe I wouldn't lose it. Being that today is day 20 post first round I guess I'm super lucky I was able to keep it through Xmas. I'd say half of my hair has come out. I finally just put a bandana on (ugh, the only one I have is pink) so I would stop pulling out the clumps. Tonight I'll have my DH buzz it.

    It was super strange having the clumps of hair on my hands. I looked like an ape! I'm relieved DH is at work, DD1 is back at her apartment, and DD2 is still asleep. I needed to be alone for this. It's weird though I'm rather void of emotion. I hope I stay that way and can just look in the mirror and see a strong woman who is aggressively treating the cancer so I can be around anothe fifty years.

    I'm so glad to have this board to turn to. Yesterday my DD1 was reminding me how I have gotten through each part of treatment and side effects better than anyone thought. Surgery was fine. By six weeks I had no discomfort and now am completely at ease with my chest. First chemo was definetly better than I had anticipated. Now if I can just muddle through hair loss I'll be on top of this thing.

  • pands
    pands Member Posts: 80
    edited December 2012

    Friendgwen- my hair came out in clumps in shower too...what i did to really help me get over it is i washed my hair got as much off as i could and then picked up the mess from the drain and took a picture of it...lol...yes seeing all that dead hair seemed to help immensly..remember it feels really dry and lifeless before it falls out even though you do everything to it...the best thing i ever did...and yes i call that picture...my rats nest...8)

  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited December 2012

    Bren58 - Thank you for the hug :) A big one back to you! I really don't know if that was the right decision, maybe in the future I'll see it differently. I don't want to influence people to refuse treatments recommended by their doctors, but I do think that they should at least inform the patient of ALL the implications, there's a huge list of things you can not do for the rest of your life just to prevent lymphedema. They explained very little to me, I know a lot now from researching it myself. And you're absolutely right, at 54 you are still to young to be disabled, even at 94 we want both our arms working!

    But now I need to concentrate on chemo. Friday is coming...


  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited December 2012

    Nicole503 - No weird dreams for me but a lot of insomnia. I have to find a way to keep myself busy too, but It's hard sometimes.

    I wish you the best luck with your treatment tomorrow, I'll be thinking of you!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Sophia~I don't if this will work for you, but I take a generic equivalent of Unisom to sleep. I've taken it for years with the approval of my doctors. They actually told me, they wish all their patients would take that rather than ambien etc.

    On my steroid days I also take an Ativan at bedtime only. I sleep very well and wake up refreshed.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited December 2012

    Soteria - Thanks, I'll definitely ask for something stronger to sleep, since I normally take diazepan and it wont be enough when on steroids.

    But it's harder for you guys that have to work, I'm not working right now so if I don't sleep at night I don't have to get up early and drive. That would be dangerous!

  • powermom
    powermom Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2012

    Hello everybody! Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas. I've seen that some folks are using duct tape to pick up those little hairs that are falling out. I thought of new trick last night - Glad Press 'n Seal! I actually pressed it down on my head to pick up the loose ones, and it is pretty gentle and doesn't leave any residue. It would probably work well to pick up already shed hair, too. Now that my hair is buzzed and leaving, I just want it over with!

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited December 2012

    For all of you who will be starting your first treatment in the next few days let me try to encourage you. One month ago I was exactly where you are, except I was also dealing with a punctured lung from the port surgery. I was supposed to have my first chemo on 11/29 and the fear of the unknown was causing me a lot of anxiety on top of the pain from the lung issue.

    I showed up for chemo on the 29th just sure everything was going to go wrong and I was going to have problems with the port, problems with the chemo and everything else you can imagine. Because of the punctured lung, they wanted to get another chest xray, so after about 3 hours of stressful waiting for blood work and the xray results they sent me home and told me to take my steroids once again and come back the following morning for chemo.

    So once again I show up for chemo, sure that everything possible will go wrong and I will have every side effect possible, both known and unknown. As it turned out, the nurses were super nice, explained everything, ran all the chemo bags through slowly and I did not have one problem with the infusion process! We were there for 8 hours and it was a long day, but other than that it was really not worth all the stress I had put myself through!

    Yes I had side effects afterwards, but not nearly as many as I thought I would and the ladies on these boards were always there with encouragement and suggestions. I think I called my MO 3 times the first week after because of SE's, but they were always there to call in a new script or help me through. By my second tx, I felt so much better prepared and not fearful at all.

    So I would like to encourarage you that in all likelyhood you will not have every conceivable reaction and SE known to mankind and you will get through this. Never be afraid or embarassed to ask any questions or vent how you are really feeling here. We are all going through this together and while not everyone will be dealing with the exact same issues at any given time, there is sure to be at least one or two others that are going through just what you are.

    So my prayer for all of you is that your first chemo treatments will be free of any complications and you too will find that this is entirely doable.

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited December 2012

    Bren58, that was a great post.  I remember you going through all this from your posts on the Triple Positive thread but seeing it all in sequence in one post - including the chemo info - is something I needed to read today (and probably something I need to reread tomorrow and the next day!). 

    Someone here at BCO has this signature line - I just saw it this morning but now I'm not sure who has it so I can't give credit where it is due but I read it this morning and am trying to let it sink in:

    -

    “If you fixate on the worse-case scenario and it actually happens, you’ve lived it twice.” Michael J. Fox

  • Runnergirl2013
    Runnergirl2013 Member Posts: 83
    edited December 2012

    Thanks Bren58....this was my experience with the first chemo too!  Hope for the best ladies.

    I just finished my second chemo today - it was non-eventful - thank you God.  I was there from 8-1pm.  I am home and tired as I didn't sleep well from the steroids and worrying. :)

    Here are some tips that my doc gave me this time:

    i am going to take the claritin tonight instead of in the morning (for the neulasta pain) as he said I might not feel as "foggy" from taking it.

    He also suggested the salt and baking soda rinse a few times per day to help with mouth sores.

    He was ok with me taking a probiotic and one a day vitamin.

    My blood counts were awesome last time so he said i should just be careful until the weekend and then I could go on with normal life.  And he gave me the OK to fly on a plane to MI for work on 1/8!

    All is good so far - I pray that it is not too bad in terms of the SE.  I pray that each of you are doing well!

  • Jud
    Jud Member Posts: 26
    edited December 2012

    well I'm up again tomorrow... I think some of you others ladies are up with me.... I hope everyone that went today had an easy time, and your next few weeks are easy going as well... as well as those going tomorrow, and each day after... I think we could all use some easy days!!!!! GENTLE HUGS, POSITIVE THOUGHTS, FOREVER STRONG AND ALOT OF DETERMINATION!!!!

  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited December 2012

    With no doubt this thread is the place to come when I need to feel better about everything. No one understands what I'm going through like the friends I made here. Thank you all, and a big hug to Bren58. I hope Nicole503 has a chance to read what you posted, she´s going tomorrow and I'm going Friday. I hope that everyone here starts feeling better soon. We are kicking cancer's a$$!!

  • powermom
    powermom Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2012

    Wishing you guys the best possible with your infusions this week.  My 2nd is Friday.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited December 2012

    Yay Runner for great blood counts and the ok to fly! That's great!

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2012

    Pands - it does look like a birds nest when it comes out!



    Paula - ok I'm going to take the Ativan tonight since I'm on steroids today. Glad to know you wake up refreshed.



    Judaday - lets rock this thing tomorrow!



    Runnergirl - yay for an uneventful infusion! Hope to have the same!



    Ladies - is anyone else driving themselves to get treatment? I arranged to be dropped off and picked up the first time in case of additional drugs but had none. Worse case I can call plenty of folks that could come and fetch me and my car but I just prefer doing it independently.

  • IFightLikeaWoman
    IFightLikeaWoman Member Posts: 27
    edited December 2012

    Good Evening All,

    Just checking in. Herceptin infusion today went well. I am beginning to love the attivan they give me before each infusion. My hair is starting to come out :-(  I was hoping to keep it. Right now I have several strands coming out when I run my fingers through my hair. I think I am going to freak at my first clump. I love my hair so much, it is my best physical attribute. 

    Sophia- you are right we are kicking cancers A$$!

    FriendGwen- good luck with the ativan tonight please let me know how it works for you. 

    My next big infusion is next Wens. :-(  So not looking forward to it. I was told I would get to see the Dr. before the infusion to discuss side effects such as vision changes and the other yucky stuff. The nurse said he may lower my dose a little bit. So we will see.

    Good night all,

  • Nicole503
    Nicole503 Member Posts: 295
    edited December 2012

    A lovely gesture ~

    In a nice coincidence today's mail included a free head scarf I ordered when I learned I would be doing chemo. Not only is it silky soft and beautiful, it came with a card that was personally signed with well wishes by the entire Good Wishes staff. Wow! That is a lot of caring for a little package!  Thank you goodwishesscarves.org!

    And thank you Bren58 for the lovely first chemo tx wishes!

  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited December 2012

    Today I feel normal and I am so happy to smile and laugh again.  Thank you God.  I found som Ayr nasal gel gor my nose and i feel so much better.  My blood counts were low bc of the cold I was fighting but I feel good.  I am so happy.

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2012

    Jenjenl - yay for a happy day!



    My DH just buzzed my head! And I'm completely unphased and maybe even a little happy?? I didn't expect that although many women say there is a real sense of empowerment. Am currently rocking a baseball hat. Funny without hair my face seems thinner.



    Nicole - I got an email today from the same company saying my scarf is on the way! Good timing!



    Fightlikeawoman - I was just looking at the Xmas tree and wondering why the lights are blurry. Hmm. A SE I reckon.

  • mfml
    mfml Member Posts: 77
    edited December 2012

    So glad some of you are having a better day - jenjenl - so glad you feel good today - that's awesome!  It really helps me reset on getting through this when I have a day of feeling really good.  Friendgwen - glad that you felt OK to get the hair shaved - I also found it surprisingly "OK".  I also did better with my "head" at work today - after watching the video Paula posted and a few other videos - I managed a scarf for work and I was happy with it.

    I am SOOO ready to have my family back!  I miss them terribly - I already have the Santa out for them for when they get back on Friday.  They are having fun with my family but this is long enough!!

    I just keep telling myself that every day is closer to being done with the chemo and being cured!

  • kiwikid
    kiwikid Member Posts: 204
    edited December 2012

    Hi everyone.

    I'm starting AC on Sunday, what a great way to end the year! Just wondering about steroids, what are they called and what are they for? I have a bunch of what I thought were anti nausea meds that I have to take, will one of them be a steroid? Ugh!

    Thanks and happy holidays

    Xx kk

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited December 2012

    My chemo seems to be lowering my body temperature.  It always seems to be 97.something when the nurses check me, and I've been wearing two shirts for the last week.  I don't have hair loss either, it must be something metabolic.

  • mfml
    mfml Member Posts: 77
    edited December 2012

    HI kiwikid - They also gave me loads of aniti-nausea scripts and steroids before my 1st chemo and I didn't know what was what!  They explained it all to me in my doctors visit right before my AC.  So - I get steroids in my premeds via IV before the chemo.  I have dexamethasone (steroid) tablets - but the nurse explained to me not to take them unless I call in with problems and they tell me to.  I have had two AC's and have been OK with just the premed steroid - and then anti-nausea (didn't need to take the extra steroid tablets - yay!)  I take compazine (prochlorperazine) on days 2 and 3 for nausea (day 1 being chemo day) and then zofran (ondansetron) on days 4 and 5.  I think I get something related to the zofran (aloxi??) in pre-meds - and it doesn't leave system for 3 days - thats why zofran starts on days 4 and 5.  Do these match any of your prescriptions??  The regimen they have me on seems to work pretty good for me.. I've had 2 AC so far - 2 weeks apart.  I think its good that I didn't end up needing the extra steroids - according to many of the ladies here it makes for trouble sleeping.

    Best of luck on Sunday - I hope it goes OK for you.  Drink LOTS of water and REST!  

    Take care-

    M

  • MTJulie
    MTJulie Member Posts: 63
    edited December 2012

    I guess I will be going for my second treatment tomorrow. I wasn't sure because it hasn't been 3 weeks yet but I called and they said if my bloodwork is ok I will get it. So I am not looking forward to it. I have felt great the last 4 or 5 days so I hate to think about feeling not good. But that will be 2 down and 2 to go.

    My hair started coming out in clumps on Christmas day and was itchy and felt gross so my daughter buzzed the rest off and I am glad to be done with it. I like my buffs but get tired of having something on my head all the time. I will get used to it. I imagine a wig might bug me worse. My dad commented that I now look just like my brother who wears his hair buzzed short. That's kind of funny and there was a lot of laughing over the whole process. Don't know that I feel empowered but I am glad to be done with this part.

    Good luck to all of you getting your second treatment. I will be thinking of you all. We can do this!

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2012

    Umm disregard mention of vision problems but strike one up for chemo brain. I was wearing my daughter's glasses.

  • dcsandpiper
    dcsandpiper Member Posts: 26
    edited December 2012

    Hi Girls



    Hair started falling out last week, so I got it buzzed on Friday. Quite a liberating feeling after all. Not to worry about all that hair all the time. Problem is there are patches still holding on... I wish it would just all fall out for real and get it over with!



    TC#2 is tomorrow.



    Hope you're all hanging in there!

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited December 2012

    Someone just emailed me this article/video about chemotherapy so I thought I would share it here. 

    Chemotherapy, a standard form of cancer treatment, has a bad reputation. So bad, that quite a few people prefer to forgo it. But is it really that bad? The indomitable world-renowned James Randi talks about his experiences in a video clip on YouTube.

    Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/285722#tab=comments&sc=#ixzz2GDm3hKSO

  • kiwikid
    kiwikid Member Posts: 204
    edited December 2012

    Lol gwen, that is funny!



    Thanks mfml. My regime is zofran once a day, motilium as needed up to 8 a day (this is a drug not allowed in USA for some reason but is a powerful antiemetic) and emend once a day for 3 days. I have also been scripted dexamethasone twice a day for 3 days. I'd like to avoid it if I can, has anyone else avoided their steroids? The side effect list is ugly to say the least!



    Xx kk

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