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  • butterfly14
    butterfly14 Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2012

    Hopex  - I did the hot bath, vicodin and aleve, feeling better today, My husband opened a bottle of wine for dinner I was tempted to have a glass, but thought with all my pain killers not a good idea.

    Patricia - my port is more sensitive with the taxol and it turns red when taxol going in and stays sensitive for a couple of days afterward.

    mariposa - I understand the up and wired and tired all at the same time. I hope you lower dose of taxol works for you, and that they do not change your plans again.

    I hope everyone has a great weekend with no SE's.

    Carla

  • Foreverchanged72612
    Foreverchanged72612 Member Posts: 223
    edited December 2012

    Question for those of you that had the three week regimen (AC or FEC): I go Monday for my second round of FEC and Herceptin. I had my first round on Dec. 3 so there's a three week period between treatments. I'm having neo-adjuvant therapy so I haven't had surgery yet. Ok, here's the issue I'm having (and sorry if it's TMI...) two days ago my breasts became really sensitive especially in the nipple area and I started having vaginal discharge. I phoned my pivot nurse and she said that these are not typical symptoms of FEC. But here's what they ARE symptoms of: PMS!!! Before starting FEC in December I was on three months of weekly Taxol and Herceptin. I had one period after starting chemo but haven't had one since. Has anyone else had this? I am wondering if my body is an estrogen machine and starting to pump out the estrogen again in the three week period between chemo...and that it's starting to feed the cancer again. Wow, I think I am going to be a wreck after I'm done chemo...I'm noticing that it's starting to become my security blanket in a weird way.

  • whenlifegivesyoulemons
    whenlifegivesyoulemons Member Posts: 184
    edited December 2012

    A liitle breast cancer Christmas song.  Sing along everyone!

    All I want for Christmas is a new left boob, a new left boob, a new left boob.  All I want for Christmas is a N E W L E F T B O O O O O O B, to help me forget this ever happened!

  • Joemommy
    Joemommy Member Posts: 31
    edited December 2012

    Foreverchanged,

    I had a very heavy period after my first two or maybe three chemo treatments (I am on 3 week cycle TCH); after that nothing! Then the hot flashes kicked in. I think my body was getting rid of all the menstrual stuff. It was super grossly heavy. My onc said I will still take tamoxifen as if pre-menstrual and I could start menstruating again but the fact I'm 46 may keep me in menopause. I was nowhere close before. Kinda weird. Hope that helps!

  • Foreverchanged72612
    Foreverchanged72612 Member Posts: 223
    edited December 2012

    Thanks, Joemommy. Hmm, wonder why I'm getting pre-menstrual symptoms now that I'm on the three week cycle but didn't on the weekly Taxol and Herceptin cycle? My oncologist said I'd be on Tamoxifen, too. I had lots of hot flashes on the weekly Taxol/Herceptin regimen and for the first week and a half after the FEC/Herceptin treatment but it slowly kind of petered out and I don't have them anymore. I'm going to speak to the oncologist on call when I go for my second FEC/Herceptin treatment on Monday.

  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited December 2012

    Adagio I only had AC and no Taxol because I was node negative, no invasion into my venous or lymphatic system, my margins were good all around after surgery, 12 mm.

    My tumor was small 1.1 cm


    Taxol is usually given when a person is node positive or margins are not real good, or there is a higher chance of reoccurrence.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2012

    Bearcub I hope you are enjoying your break! I see that you start rads Jan. 3 - but it says 2012 - a typo? I have my next Taxol Jan. 2 and on Jan. 3 I have a PS appt. then in the afternoon, a followup CT scan.

    Mariposa,  I hope you can get through this cycle and get some sleep too. 

    I thought my first Taxol cycle was going OK (Taxol on Tuesday) but late yesterday afternoon started with a fever which went to 38.35 and since 38 is the magic number when we are supposed to call the help line, I did it. I got a call back from what was probably a resident on call. She took down all my info (fever and feeling crummy with some abdominal pain and said she woud call the oncologist on call. Another call from her saying to come in for blood work (worried about my hospital stay two weeks ago) but I said that does not seem sensible especially as she said it could take hours. Just then the oncologist called her and the next call to me was to stay home, drink lots of fluids, do not take any Tylenol etc. and go to sleep. 1 mg of Ativan and still 38.4 during the night but now below 38 and am hoping whatever it was will pass! But I am taking it easy and still in bed. May stay here for the day in fact! Tomorrow night old friends arrive for Christmas and there will be over  dozen of young and old folks staying here. Luckily we have a big old house and our bedroom is kind of separate so I can retire here whenever. May be crazy, but I am looking forward to it; lots of friends and family to take care of me instead of just my husband!

    It would be nice to think that we can all get through Christmas without and S/E but that may be a big ask. I have to say again that I appreciate sharing here.

    Merry Christmas to you all, far and near!

    SmileMarian

  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited December 2012

    Marian that wasn't a typo or chemobrain....just plain forgetting it will be 2013, I changed it.

    I sure hope you are feeling well enough to enjoy all the company. I suspect you will be looked after by everyone.....kind of a nice break for DH.

    I read a few excerpts from the book Emperor Of All Maladies. I think I will buy that one.

    It does look very interesting.



    I have been on Tamoxifen and herceptin since the 5 th of Dec. and so far no unusual SE. Knock on wood. My next herceptin Dec. 27...



    If I don't get a chance to write before Christmas, may you all have a Very Merry Christmas..

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited December 2012

    marian - sorry to hear that you are having a fever!! Sure hope it subsides. Have you got any neuropathy from the Taxol? That  is one thing that scares me. 

    I had round #3 of A/C on Thursday - I switched to Emend - much better for the nausea, and I have taken the one shot of neulasta so we will see what the outcome of that is when I get the blood counts done next week.

    I also have a full house for Christmas - a little grandson (20 months) running  around tearing the house apart - I will be cooking for 10 adults and the baby - plus to add to the mix there are 3 dogs and 2 birds living in the house. It is crazy, but I will manage because there will be lots of helping hands - hopefully!! Then this will truly to be a Christmas to remember. Thank God for big old houses to accomodate all these young adults.

    Hope you are feeling better soon and get a chance to enjoy your company!

  • EnglishRose75
    EnglishRose75 Member Posts: 147
    edited December 2012

    Foreverchanged: I had 3XFEC every three weeks and then 3 Taxotere, also every three weeks.  I continued to get my periods while on FEC (and they were really nasty and heavy).  They stopped when I started the Taxotere.  I hope that you get some answers from your healthcare team.

    Whenlife: I think that song has the potential to become the Christmas number one hit.  How's the AC going?

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited December 2012

    Hi everyone! I am 4 weeks and a couple days post final chemo. I  have completed 13 of 30 radiations treatments. I'm only a little tiny bit burned so I'm hoping if I keep up with my lotion 2 or 3 times a day that I'll get through without the nastiest of complications.

    patricia, during Taxol treatment I asked for numbing cream (lidocaine) to use on the skin over my port. It helped me somewhat. Some people swear by the lidocaine.

    foreverchanged, I think I understand about chemo being a security blanket in terms of it keeping my darn ovaries turned off! I have not had a period yet a month after final chemo and I still hope I don't get one but vag discharge has been making me SO nervous and unlike joemommy, I have had perimenopausal symptoms for a few years so I'm crossing my fingers that I'm close enough to just go menopausal. How many women wish for that? I don't know but I'm sure those of us who want less estrogen in our bodies are on the list. I can't speak specifically to FEC but I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that your estrogen and progesterone keep taking vacations...

    lemons, I'll sing with you! I won't even sub in "right" for "left" because it's the spirit of the song that matters in this case.

  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited December 2012

    Hi ladies,

      I hope everyone is doing okay- Marian, I hope the fever is completely gone and you are able to enjoy your guests!  Sounds like they are the kind of guests that will be supportive and make you feel good no matter what.

    I am feeling okay today.  Nervous the major sickness of chemo will hit on Christmas, but trying not to be a debbie downer.  I did a funny blog post with a picture of chemo soldiers last night when I couldn't sleep.  It made me feel a bit better.

    Allurbad:  I am 45 and also hoping I just go into menopause.  Which is weird, but I don't want to have to deal with more estrogen either.  I have actually also been thinking about an oophorectomy. (Is that the weirdest word or what?) Since I have the blood clotting disorder, I might not be able to get the tamoxifen.  I still would have to take the AI's but I just want to take something that will help.

    Lemons: I love your song!  I firmly believe that keeping our sense of humor is the most important thing we can do!

     

     



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  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2012

    Mariposa, I love your latest art. The fever is hovering just above normal but I feel better so am taking that as a positive sign. Let's hope for the positive for you for Christmas too with no S/E.

    No art from me but I did post a sort of Christmas post/photos on my blog - hoping this Christmas will be a good one.

    SmileMarian

  • Cocobean
    Cocobean Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2012

    Mariposa, love the artwork! It's awesome. Thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear about all of your ups and downs, what an emotional roller coaster.



    Had #5 last Friday, last week was ugh, but I am starting to feeling much better. It wasn't any worse physically, but emotionally I was not great. I think the closer I am to getting done, the more I want to be done, the harder it is for me to be tired, fat, bald, home, alone, sore, spacey, etc.... Luckily my husband is a teacher too and he and the kids are home for the next two weeks, so happy. My last chemo is set for Jan 2, ready for 2013!



    Allurdaydays, how are you feeling four weeks post chemo?



    I hope everyone is doing well and is able to enjoy the holidays with no SEs, and lots of love and laughs.

  • butterfly14
    butterfly14 Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2012

    Mariposa - I am 44 and doing the oopherectomy because of lupus and being antiphospholipid (blood clotting disorder). I sould be able to get it done at the end of January.

    Does anyone else avoid being around friends since diagnosis? I have been avoiding going out with people because I am embarrassed about hair loss, wearing a wig and weight gain. I know I shouldn't be, but am. My haor was really long and naturally curly, the wig I have is chin length and straight.

    Cancer, the gift that keeps on giving!

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited December 2012

    Mariposa, cool artwork!



    Butterfly, I had to face my fear of friends when I returned to work. I wonder if they look at me and think - why is she heavier?



    Hope all that are feeling bad get better soon.



    I feel like I can't hear as well now, anyone else? Wondering if it's hearing or just chemo brain not processing as fast.



    Worried about getting to my appt Weds. Calling for freezing rain..ugh

  • whenlifegivesyoulemons
    whenlifegivesyoulemons Member Posts: 184
    edited December 2012

    Although I am officially boycotting Christmas (in keeping with the theme of the Unyear), it seems an appropriate time to thank each and every one of you for participating in this discussion thread.  By sharing your experiences - your fears, thoughts, stories, pictures, humor, art, songs, blogs - you've helped us all get through this together.  Thank you.

  • whenlifegivesyoulemons
    whenlifegivesyoulemons Member Posts: 184
    edited December 2012

    And for the record, AC sucks way more than Taxol.  Two down, two to go.  ;)

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2012

    Mariposa: your artwork is fantastic! I wish I had some talent like that! I can't even draw a stick figure!



    Butterfly : I don't see my friends as much either. I'm just too tired and want to be in my sweats and a stocking hat.



    I'm a bit depressed as I cannot go celebrate Christmas with my husbands family on Christmas Day. My father in law has a major cold so I have to stay home and I'm feeling quite good right now. I have my last chemo in the 27th, then surgery, so I don't want to take the chance in getting sick. I hate how this cancer controls your life!!

    Maybe me and DH will go to a movie.







  • Neta69
    Neta69 Member Posts: 203
    edited December 2012

    Slowly healing after the radiation burn I got from the boost and feeling pretty good apart from achy legs and joints (since TC #2). Took my first Tamoxifen pill the other day. Really hoping to avoid the side effects I have read about.



    Merry Christmas to all you brave, wonderful ladies!

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited December 2012

    aaargh! You know those nightmares where you are late to a final exam in college or something and you can't find the room and maybe you don't even remember registering for the class? I basically had the same firkin' dream except I was late for chemo! it was awful. It won't ruin my day or anything but isn't this just indicative of how life has changed?

    cocobean, I'm feeling pretty good. I definitely have had more energy but am done and ready to just gel after suppertime each day. I'm actually getting the house picked up a little and am able to cook for us many days of the week. My radiation treatments are almost half over. Most of the SEs from chemo are reducing daily too although one day last week I had a flare up of tingling in my hands that surprised me but mostly it's all getting a bit better, still have some body aches but that can be tamoxifen too. I reserve the right to be pooped out again after more radiation. My hair is about 3/4 of an inch long (maybe 2cm), my eyelashes are just starting to grow back but are still about invisible, my eyebrows have some peachfuzz which catch the eyebrow pencil and help them look a bit better. My appetite (and stomach integrity) is not in full force yet (even though I can eat spicy food I just can't pack it in) and my MO nagged me a little about losing some more weight so today I have to make some glutenfree Magic Cookie bars! poor me. :) I have never had this issue before in my life, believe me. I am just a low-normal weight now but I started this whole journey overweight so he's concerned about too much change I guess. (It's also kind of obvious in public and to friends that I've been through chemo, the quick weight loss and lack of eyebrows…) I think the tamoxifen gives me a little queasy feeling and heartburn taking it at night. I have to figure out when to take it each day so I'm not uncomfortable with it. Generally, each day I am grateful that I was able to get treatment and that I have made it this far <- and those thoughts help buoy me up when sad thoughts come up which do and are hard to handle as we all know.

    mariposa - awesome! You should get posters made up for chemo clinics.

    lemons, AC DOES SUCK way more than Taxol for most of us. Congrats on being half way thru the taxol.

    We don't celebrate christmas/solstice in any big way and I am SUPER glad about that right now. Hanging out at home and playing games with my dh and son is plenty of activity for me right now.

    hopex, I'll check in tomorrow if you're hanging around at home too. Do you play Words with Friends? I'll play a game...

  • butterfly14
    butterfly14 Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2012

    Thanks Jojo and hopex - helps to know that I am not alone. Just hoping to regain some normalcy soon.

    Anyone that is post chemo lose any steriod weight after treatment?

    Merry Christmas!

  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited December 2012

    Hi everyone!

       I am feeling pretty crappy.  Lots of bone pain, stomach aching, tingling fingers and toes, and exhaustion.  I have so much I want to do for tomorrrow.  My little ones are 3 and 6, so they expect a lot at Christmas.  (My fault, I tend to overdo it).   I tried wrapping presents last night so I could be a bit ahead of the game, but then I was in such pain and felt like I might vomit- so I started crying and went to bedCry

    butterfly:  I also avoid friends.  There are some women in my support group that I am hoping I can go out with soon.  I just think it would be nice to hang out with people who I don't have to explain anything to.  My friends all tell me how great I look- but that irritates me too.  I don't look great.  I look lke hell.  I am bald, fat, and so stiff that I walk around like an old lady.  I feel like when they tell me how lovely I look it kind of invalidates the hell I have been through.  Is that weird?  I guess I am just grumpy.  One of my best friends from work who disappeared called last night.  I didn't answer.  I am just emotionally too messed up to forgive her right now.  I am sure I will later.

    Allurbaddays: I used to have those dreams all the time!  Or the one where it is the last week of school and I just remembered that I signed up for some class that I never went to.  What is funny is as a teacher, students do that all the time!  Bizarre!  I am glad you are done with chemo and now only have to deal with it in weird dreams:-)  

    Neta69:  All the women in my support group rave about biafine- which is some kind of French cream.  It is super pricey- like 40 bucks on amazon.... but is supposed to be an incredible burn cream.

    Hopex:  I took a picture of the back of my headLaughing  Have you taken one of yours yet?  My little hairs are starting to obscure my heart shaped birthmark.   I will post a picture after I get it on my computer!

    Thanks everyone for all of the sweet comments about the art work.  It does help me tons.  I would encorage everyone to make some art, write some poetry, or whatever creative thing you can do to create some meaning from this crappy experience.  

    Okay- now to figure out how to make a gingerbread house without puking.

    Happy Christmas Eve!!!!

     



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  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited December 2012

    Merry Christmas Eve to all of you! I am all done with christmas preperations just have to play santa later after the lil ones go to bed.....

    Spending Christmas day at home with the kids and dh its just want I need... Taxol sucks! My Mo gave me to go ahead to take my doxycycline since I am breaking out like a hormome inraged teenager... 4 more weeks and Im counting down the days...

    I have chemo the day after christmas and see a ps the following day for a consult about surgery still torn!

    Hoping to get out with the hubby next week to see the hobit and cash in on some restaurant gift cards...

    Wishing all of you a safe and happy se free holiday... As always much love!

  • Timbek2
    Timbek2 Member Posts: 204
    edited December 2012

    Wishing all a merrychristmas. I am worn out. Trying to trudge through but it's tough. It's hard keeping things normal for the kids when I just wanna stay in bed! Traveling tomorrow so trying to get everyone packed. Our first getaway since before my diagnosis. Will be so good to getaway. Hoping my energy comes back..... MAy Thisbe the last bald holiday for all of us and a long future with happy and energetic ones ahead. Trying to tell myself this is temporary. Wishing u all the best.



    Becki

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited December 2012

    Hope,  On the 3rd or 4th day after the weekly Taxol I have aches and pains in my shoulder joints and hip joints.  Then I have had other wierd shooting pains-- left breast at 12 o:clock, (lumpectomy was at 9 o:clock.   Knee.   Feeling like someone wrung out my body like a wash cloth.  Am still up and moving, but can't walk but about about 30 feet before I have to sit and rest a minute.  The day of infusion and the two days, afterwards, I feel pretty good.  (steroids?).  I had 4 A/C at three weeks, and now 12 weekly Taxol.  How about you? 

  • Waitingforthenextstep
    Waitingforthenextstep Member Posts: 251
    edited December 2012

    Cindy74

              I am on a similar protocol as you.  I had A/C every other week for 4 treatments, now taxol/herceptin for 12 weeks.  Then hopefully a nice break between any other treatments.  I asked my MO for the Emend, which has been a miracle drug for me.  I wish I had it for the A/C phase.  I now take one emend tablet before I go for the taxol.  Been lucky so far, not really having bad SE's with taxol.  Thanks for telling me about the emend, and Happy Holidays! 

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited December 2012

    To all,   I want to bitch for a minute.  I have treatments at the Fla Cancer Clinic, a part of Florida Hospital in Altamonte Springs, Florida.  Have been there for chemo and appointments with oncologist and chemo nurse probably about 18 times.  No matter what time the appointment, 9, 9:30,  1, 2, etc., I have had to wait 30 min. to an hour and a half.  Maybe once they took me within ten minutes of the appointment.

    I made the mistake of mildly complaining to the tech nurse last time, and she spent 10-15 minutes lecturing me that they aren't perfect.  By the time she was through I was enraged--although I  said nothing else for the 3.5 hours there--and I mean NOTHING.  I take an anxiety pill before going, but it didn't seem to calm  me. 

    Am I just out of line.  It really is the office practice manager's responsibility to set scheduling policies, not hers.  My husband was there during the "lecture" and he thought she was way out of  line.

    I know, I have a life, don't want to be there, and feel that the practice manager thinks because they  keep a waiting room full of patients, that means they are very popular. The infusion rooms are crowded, and there is no privacy.  The other two nurses I have had there were encouraging, laughing, and compassionate, but I have had a personality clash with this one before.   I usually get along with almost everyone.

    OK, this is minor.  I've gotten it off my chest.  I just want to hear how you all deal with these little anoyances.

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited December 2012

    To All,  Thank you for all the advice, support and listening over the last five months.  You have made this trip bearable.  Merry Christmas,  Happy New Year, no SE, and a full recovery.

  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited December 2012

    Cindi:  My clinic has been pretty good- with two exceptions.  Once they left me in a waiting room for an hour and a half. I finally decided to stop being paitent and went looking for someone.  And sure enough, they had forgotten me.  Taught me a nice lesson, you can be too patient.  Then on Friday, they were two hours late with my infusion.  They were very apologetic, but it still was not great.  I think you have every right to complain!!!  That is ridiculous wating that long every time you come in! I would talk to someone above her.  What we go through is hard enough and super anxiety provoking.  Our time is precious. 

    I took a picture of me and my daughter today and thought I would share it:-) 

    This isn't the Christmas that I imagined for us this year, but for some reason- it feels so important to me.  I am so thankful that they found all of our cancer- and I am proud that we are all fighting this fight so that we can enjoy many more Christmases to come.  We are all amazing.  Congratulations to all of us for all that we have endured and survived this year.

    Much love!

     



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