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  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited November 2012

    Thanks deanna sickness n shaky feeling setting in today hopefully won't effect me too much fingers crossed I live in hope x

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited November 2012

    It's been a long week since my chemo the side effect throbbing legs, acid refux taking me in hospital for 3days now there fading I've started with the most horrendous headache I'm wondering if it's ewt to do with the chemo killing my hair follicles has anyone else had this

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    Please can anyone help I'm day 16 after 1st chemo and my gums are killing me there's no ulcers but I'm in agony with a pain going to my ear , is this another side effect????

  • juliaanna
    juliaanna Member Posts: 1,043
    edited December 2012

    Daldred, I'm sorry you are having such pain.  I don't have any experience with chemo and the side effects.  I'd check with your doctor.  I'm sure someone with experience will post soon.  Take care.

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited December 2012

    Daldred even though you have no ulcers your gums are being affected by the chemo. Try cleaning your mouth with tepid water and bicarbonate swished and spit to clean the mouth and such on some ice chips. If the problem persists out a call into you onc and ask for some magic mouth wash which has some lidocaine in it. Hope this helps.



    Live n hugs. Chrissy

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    Thanks will give it a go x

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    2nd chemo done, side effects not as bad as 1st thankfully

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited December 2012

    Daldred so glad the SE's aren't so bad this time round. Hang in there it will be over before you know it.



    Love n hugs. Chrissy

  • melmcbee
    melmcbee Member Posts: 1,119
    edited December 2012

    Daldred, I also had the burning mouth and throat. Sometimes I would have ulcers but mostly it all felt burnt. I started sucking on ice or popsicles during my chemo especially when they were injecting the adriamycin. I also would use the baking soda and water rinses, biotine mouthwash and toothpaste. I finally got the magic mouthwash but i use it more for my throat. Oh and I also drink water all the time everyday.



    I also have bad bone pain all the time especially when I try to sleep. I alternate ibuprophen, tyelenol and sometimes I have to take a pain pill. Its the worst in my legs. I just wanted you to know that Im right there with you. Today will be my last chemo. I wanted you to know the things that I feel was my fault contributing to the bad side effects. I gained 35lbs and was too sick to exercise which I feel the lack of exercise was probably what made me sicker. I started out taking a ton of vitamins and supplements but I became lazy and stopped. I just became tired of taking pills. I really feel like the vit d, calcium, zinc, magnesium and something else I cant remember really was helpful to my leg pain so I wished I would have taking better care of myself. Maybe depression is a big factor in keeping me on the couch all of the time. Zoloft is a miracle drug for me but it only helps if I take it. lol.



    I dont know what chemo you are getting but I am getting A/C/Taxotere combo every 3 weeks and it was a nightmare for me but most ladies dont have such severe side effects. So I feel the lack of exercise and added weight made it worse on me. I will also say if you dont drink a ton of water you will feel worse. My last chemo was 3 weeks ago and I literally slept and laid around for 12 days. I know that this last one will keep me down for 3 weeks but Im praying that I will return to normal after that. Chemo was cumalative for me because the first few were not as bad as the last ones. Keeping in mind the things like vitamins and exercise that I stopped may have been the culprit. I just wanted you to know what I didnt do and maybe it will help you. Healing hugs and prayers going your way.

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    Awww thank you for all that , it helps to know beforehand so I can at least try, hope all goes good for you from now on for the future x

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    Hi chrissy I'm still going positive after a bad start and your encouragement helps alot x

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    Yesterday I seen my oncologist and got results from lymph nodes and MRI , MRI showed my tumour has shrunk already to nearly half the size and no lymph nodes are cancerous so a very happy day

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited December 2012

    Daldred, that's wonderful news! Congratulations!

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited December 2012

    Daldred that's great news!!!! At least you now know that your chemo is doing its job so putting up with the SE's is all worth it!



    Love n hugs. Chrissy

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    That was exactly my thought x

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited December 2012

    Just diagnosised yesterday with IDC. Caught the tumor on a routine yearly mammogram. About 9mm, could not be felt by me, my surgeon or my doctor. I wasn't shocked as I just had a feeling - so last night I felt somewhat calm. Today a bit of a difference. I teach school and today was our staff Christmas breakfast - and in a very small community the word has spread. And while I can't thank my co-workers enough for their support it all is now become a bit overwhelming.

    Because we're sitting right on top of a holiday things will likely take longer than expected. I pushed my surgeon to do the lumpectomy the day after Christmas. His office is closed but he said he would do it - although I think he thought I'd take more time to let it all sink in. I just can't wait anymore - seems like all I've done is wait for the past 25 days. Of course I won't know the next step until the pathology reports come back on the lymphnodes. Then I guess we progress from there.

    Right now I feel like I'm a runaway train and I have no control. It's amazingingly scary - I mean I should be afraid that I'm dying - and I am - even though I know it was caught early (at least I hope so) But what does that really mean - caught it early can still be too late. But right now I fear where this going - I fear that my life will never be the same - I've never had surgery before so that is a stress - How do you take those steps. I'm used to being in control and giving that up doesn't seem a possibility - but I don't see any other way.

    I guess I'm asking for help - don't know what kind - just help - I feel stuck in a cycle that I can't break -

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    Sorry to hear, I'm new to this site but so many will help with advice and have helped me with my struggle, why do you believe you are dying have you been told this? Even if you havent the early days you have times when you think you are it's so scary, I just kept blocking the thought oout until I knew for certain my results x

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited December 2012

    Daldred - I have not been told that I'm dying - quite the contrary - my surgeon believes I've caught this early - but I can't get my mind to not go there - Like I said I'm in a cycle - and I can't get out - it's like a record that won't stop - just keeps playing over and over in my head - I'm dying - and my life will never be the same - Intellectually I know I'm creating problems that don't need to be there - but I can't seem to stop. Maybe it's too fresh - maybe I need to get more info - I mean no one is told they're dying any more when diagnosed with breast cancer - I've just never been so afraid and so without control - I really hope I can get some guidance from those that have been there - Right now it's very clinical - doctors, hospitals, nurses. They're trained in the medical stuff (of which I'm grateful) but right now I feel like I need moral support and shoring up because I feel like I'm crumbling. Thanks you Daldred for your reply.

  • Daldred
    Daldred Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    Glad you've not been told you are, all I can say from my recent diagnosis your feelings are normal, I clung to the words 'caught early' but it was only once I got my MRI results saying it hadn't spread that I calmed down, I still get the odd wobble and panic I'm not gonna see my 3 boys grow up, I find hard also because I'm having treatment before surgery to shrink it there's a lot of good stories out there and my mum is one of them she's 6yrs on and doing great I know people with worse diagnosis and they've come through it do please try to remember all the good stories and allow yourself the bad moments your allowed those to make you stronger and ready for each stage my early days It was about 3weeks before I could tell someone without crying x

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited December 2012

    Hi kkuziel so sorry you have received that news but please, please take a deep breath and a step back..........caught early is really good news! I know your mind wants to take you to the dying place and that is so normal at this point in time. Everyone does the same thing as we grew up hearing our parent say in hushed tones that so and so has got cancer and they are dying so we automatically because of conditioning, associate cancer with death. That was then, this is now and things have changed dramatically...........cancer is nolonger a death sentence in most cases as medicine has advanced and has learned how to control this disease to a great degree.



    Once a dx is received it does indeed feel like you are on a run away train but believe me when I say, it will eventually pull into a station.



    Love n hugs. Chrissy

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited December 2012

    Chrissy's - thank you for the words of encouragement. My mind (at least I hope it's my mind) has me thinking my lymphnodes are sweeping each day, like I can feel them. God I hope that's my mind. Like I've said I'm in the obsessed phase of this thing. Sure I'm going to die, sure it's spread and sure I'm not strong enough to deal with it. I hope this gets better, it's exhausting. Once again thank you all.

  • bluepearl
    bluepearl Member Posts: 961
    edited December 2012

    I found a low dose of an antidepressant like citalopram made the negative thoughts burst like bubbles and go away. The cycle of bad thoughts was broken. If they continue, look into them and this antidepressant is tamoxifen-safe....ie...won't interfere. Say strong....it's a very difficult journey but you do come through. (((hugs)))))))))

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited December 2012

    I thought about the possibility of getting something to take the edge off. I'm sitting in my house and I can literally feel all my muscles tensing up. My arms and across my chest actually hurt from being so up tight. I'm hoping some of the anxiety leaves after the lumpectomy. At least then this tumor will be gone and can't spread more cancer around me (if that's what it's doing right now). I'm used to having control and I just feel like things are out of control. Well actually I guess things are out of my control. Not where I want to be. Again just admire the calmness you all demonstrate. I hope I can get there in a timely fashion soon.

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited December 2012

    Kkuziel it's really not likely that it will be spreading that fast. Most cancers are very slow growing and in all likely hood what you have found has been there for a very long time..........like I said, take a deep breath and try to really a little and do ask your doc for something to help you do that. It's important that you not stress out too much.



    Love n hugs. Chrissy

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited December 2012

    Well the saga continues. Went in for my lumpectomy on December 26. All prepped taken to OR nighter, night. Wake up a couple hours later and I'm told they couldn't do it. Once again they were unable to find tumor. The marker from the biopsy didn't show up on the equipment they had in the OR and the only way they could get a wire to it would have been to wake me up, take me down for mammogram and put me back under - which is not possible to be done twice in one day. So i get through recovery and my surgeon made an appointment for that afternoon at 3:50 with a surgeon 90 miles away with the hospital I went to for the biopsy. New surgeon assures me they will have no trouble doing lumpectomy and tried to assure me that this delay will not do a thing - that I have time and he's assured from looking at the path report this is an early stage cancer.



    He said he would never have done a lumpectomy so close to diagnosis because you need time. I'm not sure why all doctors say that. Once I know I have something to do I just want to do it. Oh well hopefully have surgery the week of January 11 if not sooner. It can't come soon enough.

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited December 2012

    Oh Kkuziel Im really sorry to hear this!  The surgeon is right, there is much to absorb and a lot of information gathered and the time lag is not going to make much difference.  Here's hoping you can be fitted in a little earlier than the 11th just for your peace of mind.

    Love n hugs.   Chrissy

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited December 2012

    I hope you're right about the delay. Looking at nearly a month from diagnosis to surgery. He mentioned to me he's had patients with a same diagnosis that have plans to winter for a couple of months in Florida and have their procedures done when they get back. I have no idea how they could do that, but I guess it goes along with what all the medical people have been saying - cancer doesn't move as quickly as I think it does.



    I'd like to get in sooner, but I don't have much hope for that. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Something has got to go better soon. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. Or maybe it is and I'm now getting treatment in the place I should be getting it. Hope so. Kris

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited December 2012

    Kris, everything happens for a reason or so we are told and hopefully the change of venue for your treatment is a really good thing.  Deep breath.......slowly in and out.....Im know you will get through all this.

    Love n hugs.    Chrissy

  • shells43
    shells43 Member Posts: 1,022
    edited December 2012

    I'm reading this thread today because it popped up for my key words of IDC and Florida. I live here, while everyone else is on vacation! Ha ha. Anyway, it is so great to see Deanna and ChrissyB are still their welcoming selves (you gals rock, and welcomed me as well). I owe you ladies so much, that first welcome in the crazy, sleepless, I'm gonna die first few months really meant a lot to me, as it obviously does to Kris and Daldred. 

    I only wanted to add that in hindsight, I would have asked for a sleep aid, like Ambien, sooner, if I'd known how great it is. Ladies, don't be afraid to ask for something, you are going through incredible stress, with your mind going to the worst, darkest places, and it's unavoidable. Get some good rest. It will help you cope and recover with chemo, surgery, or whatever treatments you are having.

    Warmest hugs and wishes to you!

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited December 2012

    I have a script for something to take the edge off. I know I should take it because when I had something to relax me during the biopsy I was able to eat and carry on a normal conversation with my husband. Even in the crazy surgery, no surgery, new surgeon appointment day I actually felt calmer than I do now. I guess I just have to get past the part of me that will feel like I failed if I can't handle this and have to rely on better living through chemistry.

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