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  • dani_katze141914
    dani_katze141914 Member Posts: 50
    edited December 2012

    I do not know if is because of tamoxiphen or if just me, but I have been feeling overwhelmed about my emotions... It has been a year since my last surgery and recently I paid for the tatoo, but I feel that it is not over... I still dream about my new breast, I still feel sad... many times I change my mood very quickly... for example: from wanting to go out with friends even feeling enthusiatic about it I change and feel that I want to be alone...

    I was on therapy for about a year and stopped because I felt that it was not helping me that much anymore... it just helped at the beginning. My phychiastrist gave me antidepressant that are compatible with tamoxiphen... but I do not know why I feel sad, then happy, then anger...

    People around me think that I am ok, it is over... but for me it is not. I would like to have someone that really cares about how I feel physically and mentally. I feel alone in this...

    In insight please?

    Thanks

    Dani

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited December 2012

    Hi Dani,

    You are certainly not alone! We're sure you'll be joined here shortly by others who feel or have felt exactly as you do, and can provide lots of support and advice.

    In the meantime, you may be interested in checking out the main Breastcancer.org site's page on Depression as a side effect of breast cancer and breast cancer treatment.

    We hope this helps!

    --The Mods

  • mgdsmc
    mgdsmc Member Posts: 332
    edited December 2012

    Dani

    I'm so sorry you are feeling this way. There are many women feeling the exact same way. I would be lying if I said I never felt like that. It's a natural reaction to everything you have been through. The physical part is over but not the mental.



    People who have never had BC can't really understand how you are feeling. They think its over because your major treatment ended but we know BC will be a part of our lives forever.

    Everytime you take your pill you are reminded of having BC.



    You are angry because you miss your old life that you had before BC. You can't figure out what you did to deserve this? How can you prevent getting it again and sometimes you might think its not worth the fight. I think that's all part of the diagnosis.



    You will be ok just need time to deal with your emotions. You have fought a long hard battle and won! Don't beat yourself up about not getting excited or changing your mind about going out. We all have good days and bad, it's a roller coaster ride. The important thing to remember is you fought to get to this point for a reason. Think about what that reason was. Take time exhale and take it one day at a time. Physical wounds heal much faster and easier than mental ones.



    We are all here for you, never think you are alone. You are stronger than you know. Look at everything you have been though and you are still here :)

  • dani_katze141914
    dani_katze141914 Member Posts: 50
    edited December 2012

    Mods and mgdsmc,

    thanks for your kind words...  I knew that if I would share my feelings I would find people that really understand me... sometimes I even do not understand myself... I should be happy, because I survived... anyway I still feel the loss.

    I don't know if it's also because of what happened to me at work recently... my boss, who I work with for four years, died in a car accident 4 weeks ago. I was shocked and in pain. He was so supportive with me when I was diagnosed with BC, so loosing him was so sad... I could't stop crying for about 1 week and still I feel very sensitive and cry so easily for anything.

    But I will think again about what reason helped me to fight.

    Thank you,

    Dani

  • mgdsmc
    mgdsmc Member Posts: 332
    edited December 2012

    Dani

    I'm so sorry to hear about your boss. Losing someone you care about is always hard. You could be having survivers guilt.



    You are happy that you survived still doesn't make the loss hurt less. You will be sad and cry for awhile but one day you will wake up feeling on. Can't say it will be tomorrow next month next week but the day will come. Take your time grieving you have lots to be sad about. Once you are done think of all the positive things you have do e in your life and what you plan to do.



    Holidays are hard on lots of people even if tv doesn't show it. You will be ok :)

  • dani_katze141914
    dani_katze141914 Member Posts: 50
    edited December 2012

    mgdsmc,

    thanks for your reply. Like you said holidays are hard for us too. My dad was very supportive, but like my mom, they couldn't talk about cancer when I wanted to vent. But I had my best friends who were there to listen to me. Anyway, my father invited me to his home with my brother and her wife to have a dinner the 24... and I said yes... but I really don't know if I would like to go... it's just that I feel that I must to prentend to be ok for them, when I am not...

    Dani

  • mgdsmc
    mgdsmc Member Posts: 332
    edited December 2012

    Dani

    I'm right there with you. It take efford to get dressed and put on a happy face when we feel sad inside. Sometimes being around people helps but not always. What I do to help me is put on music as I get dressed. Something you really like and can sing. It helps lift your mood. Once at the event you will have to deal with the "Are you ok and how are you doing" questions with ever person that you speak with. It's annoying but they mean well. If you don't feel better and just won't to be alone make an excuse to leave. Looking at happy carefree people can make you more sad but usually it allows you to forget about what you are feeling for a short period of time.

    Remember it's not about how they feel its how you feel that counts. Not how you think you should feel but how you really feel. If you need to vent I'm here to listen, vent away :)



    Michelle

  • dani_katze141914
    dani_katze141914 Member Posts: 50
    edited December 2012

    Thanks Michelle for reading me and for your advice. You

    know there is something that bothers me lately... before BC I used to go alone for holidays. But sometimes my mom asked if she could join me and I agreed. She used to travel alone even though she could go with my dad. Well this time I asked both if could go with them for holidays and they agreed. I feel more sensitive and didnt want to be alone and my friends have other plans. So I looked to rent a nice place. Then my mom asked me not to go with them she wanted to be alone with my dad and fix some issues. I first understood but it upset me a lot so I told my mom but even though I feel angry to her it reminds me the way she used to treat me as a kid always complaining to me and the lack of support I felt last year during cancer.... I dont want to travel with them anymore but she dissapointd me one more time...

  • mgdsmc
    mgdsmc Member Posts: 332
    edited December 2012

    Dani

    Once again I hear what you are saying about mom letting you down more than once. I can give many stories but one that was just upsetting was this one. When I was first diagnosed I was still going to my doctor I had for many years even though I moved over an hour away. It was just once a year and where all my family lives. Anyway once I found out I was stage 3 and would need chemo my mom wanted me to stay with her during treatment sounds nice right? No it wouldn't have been. She wouldn't have helped me do anything would have just complained and directed my kids and brothers on what to do for me. So of course I didn't I stayed home and my girls 21 and 17 took excellent care of me. Do you know my mom stopped talking to me for over 4 months because of this? I'm her only daughter and she had no idea what was going on with me. My brothers and I have dealt with this type of things all out lives and aren't phased by it anymore.

    Not sure if you have siblings or children to help you. I'm not married anymore but my girls have helped me deal with the darkest hours of my life. They kept me going and is the reason for me living. You have to find someone who really can support you and you can count on. Sometimes there is no one than you do it yourself. You have a reason for living once you figure that out you will be ok.

    Remember the holidays aren't joyful for everyone. Maybe this will be a sad one for you if that's true it's not the end of the world. You will look forward to the next holiday season. Next year is a few days away. Make a goal to be in a happier place and do things to get there no matter how long it takes. You are worth the efford and happiness is within your reach! You will no ok :)

  • dani_katze141914
    dani_katze141914 Member Posts: 50
    edited December 2012

    Thanks Michelle for sharing your story. Its so painful to hear what you had going through. It so sad when it comes from your one or both parent. I just try to forbid her because she had a difficult time during her childhood too. But its hard. Im not marrief and dont have children but have good friends and my father is very supportive. Thats why my mother is jelous.... because she thinks he treats me better than her...



  • mgdsmc
    mgdsmc Member Posts: 332
    edited January 2013

    Dani



    Happy New Year! I don't remember reading your reply. I hope your holidays were too bad. Anyway they are over!

    Glad to hear your dad gives you good support. Mothers aren't always like they appear on tv but what can we do? I just raise my kids the opposite way my mother treated me and we are very close.

    Holidays blues are gone for awhile, thank goodness 😊



    Sorry it took so long for my reply

  • softness1
    softness1 Member Posts: 217
    edited January 2013

    I am 3 weeks post a bilateral. I have not had a breakdown while awake but I was dreaming about my situation and was crying in my dream. Tears rolling down my cheeks just woke me and now my reality has hit me. I am a 42 yr old newly singled ( apparently my live in bf is moving out this is too much for him) with breast like a Frankenstein(lumpy & scarred) Barbie doll (because she too, has no nipples)



    Now I've been sitting in my living room since 5am thinking. I can't wrap my head around how my life is. My sister treats her men like dogs, never take care if her kids, cheats and her boyfriends cry over her. One called me crying. My brother has been married to his childhood for almost 30 yrs. he's only 48. Me. My mother died and my ex husband bails, got engaged a month after leaving, hit me with divorce paper a month after my mom funeral. I was 25 with a 2 month old and a 2 yr old. Their still married. I've struggled for yrs alone. 3 yrs ago my great friend and I started dating. Was nervous cuz we were such great friend for 10 yrs. but eventually we did. He moved in 2 yrs ago. A week after my surgery he started working a lot. Coming in late. I mean I was in a lot of pain sleeping in a recliner and he was coming in at 3:30 from hanging. I question him told him that's not acceptable & he said well I'm moving out. Hey we can still be friends



    I'm so tired of going thru hardships alone. I'm tired of pple telling me how strong I am. It has to be me. Hoping I don't have to do chemo. I find out Tuesday. Cuz I can add the hair loss amongst the other ungodly gift chemo gives. I swear I was dealing with this until my dream. I must have been suppressing it. But now I can't stop crying. I wish my mom was here. But of course, me being the definition of Murphy's Law, she isn't. I'm tired of cancer. I want my old breast back. Hey they weren't perfect but they were mine. Not a foreign object that can't even keep up with my body temp. Tired of muscle spasms, pain in my ribs when I stretch. Tired of dr appt, test test and more test which comes along with WAITING. I'm tired if hearing about getting used to this new me. How??? But in a few i will have to straighten my face and go on like I just broke a nail. The old saying is true. I'm tired of being tired

  • mgdsmc
    mgdsmc Member Posts: 332
    edited January 2013

    softness1



    Don't think you are alone in feeling this way. The anger and sadness of losing your old life is normal but doesn't mean it doesn't suck!



    I know it seems people around you are living life happy and carefree while you are going through this. Your sister for example might have lots of men in and out of her life but are they the kind of men you would date? I know people like that too and wonder what am I doing wrong. First stop comparing yourself to others, not going to help.



    Was your relationship with your boyfriend a good one? Probably not for him to leave you the way he did. Just think why would you want to be with someone who would stay out late knowing what you are going though plus leave you when you aren't feeling like a pretty woman? Of course it hurts but one day you will wake up and be ok. It won't be anytime soon though. Save your energy for healing and concentrate on your kids. I hope they are there for you.



    I'm there with you about people telling me how strong I am. My reply is no I'm not that strong but I have no choice but to fight for my life. Yes loosing my hair and breast sucked. Yes I cried a lot at night when I was alone fought hard not to during the day around my kids but it was hard. I remember looking in the mirror thinking who is this person with no hair and fat from the weight gain? It's not the woman I have known 43 years! It was hard and sad but guess what? I'm here and doing great. No I didnt have a boyfriend or husband to tell me I was still pretty when I knew they would be lying. Yet here I am.



    I'm still healing from my DMX with TRAM reconstruction looking like Frankenstein's monster but that's ok. I'm still growing hair from the chemo, some bald spots but its ok. Have appt with radiologist Thursday to start treatment and looking forward to it.



    My point is none of us wanted this and all of us have to fight it. You can give up but why would you? There is so much life to live. Yes your old life is gone and you can't change that but you can look forward to being cancer free and starting a new post cancer life. I know it seems forever but the day will come. I have been dealing with this almost a year 2/15/12. It's has been an eye opening experience for me. You will be ok. Give yourself time to grive for your breast and relationship. It's ok to miss them both.



    Michelle



  • softness1
    softness1 Member Posts: 217
    edited January 2013

    Wow Mgdsmc!!

    I really wish I knew the words to express how much your words meant to me! Thank you so much. And you're right. I know all those things you said. I actually have told myself the same, but there are days when you just feel overwhelmed. I think I suppressed it until it came out in a dream. I have never been awaken with tears. In my dream my mother was holding me telling me it would be alright and I was crying uncontrollably. I have been upbeat and in my meanest "fight" stance.

    I've told everyone not to worry. I calmed my love ones fears. My brother was so upset (he's my bff) I made sure my kids didn't worry by just saying "oh plse, this is nothing. As soon as this surgery is over I am good. Don't stress, hey I'm not" Even when I got back from the hospital and was in tremendous pain (I was not one of these women who felt no pain.. it was horrible for me) I would try not to show it around my kids.. Tried not to ask for too much help because they would look at me worried, with sadness and fright.. Now I'm feeling good and I believe the "fight" sometimes want to turn into "flight"  It's a constant battle. I know what I have to do. I've always been the responsible one, but I guess sometimes in the late of night, or early morning I lay in bed and think...

    Again thank you!!! I do know what I have to do. I guess I just needed to vent. This messageboard gives me life sometimes because you guys get it. You are living it.. You know the fears and the emotional and physical scars I carry. I don't have to be brave...

    Softness

  • mgdsmc
    mgdsmc Member Posts: 332
    edited January 2013

    softness1



    You are welcome to vent anytime, this is the place. I know what it's like to put on a happy face when you are scared inside. Like you I did the same with my kids but when I was alone I cried sometimes. As a mom we don't want our kids worried about us.

    I have told this story many times but it seems to help people. I had never cried until the day I got home from the PS. He told me you will wake up with just a line across your chest with no nipples just expanders that has to be filled bi weekly. I was so sad he looked at me a d said "they are just breast!". I came home and lost it. I tried so hard not to cry especially since my 17 year old daughter was home but I couldn't stop. She said " do you need a hug?" I said yes. She hugged me and said " it's ok mommie strong people cry too. You are losing a part of you of course you will miss it" I stil get teary eyed. That's the only time I cried in front of my kids. I try not to depend on them but sometimes can't help it.



    I knew you were just venting because you said feel the way most of us have. Pity parties are allowed with no judgement😊



    Michelle

  • sanbar8771
    sanbar8771 Member Posts: 281
    edited January 2013

    I feel the same way. I have so much anger towards everyone then the next second i cry. Im 35 dx at 33 and my husband and i have no children. My gf just told me shes pregnant again. Ive been crying ever since. Wth is wrong with me? I just cant find peace and happiness. Help.

  • mgdsmc
    mgdsmc Member Posts: 332
    edited January 2013

    sanbar8771



    Omg! I wrote a reply yesterday but I guess it didn't go through. So I will try it again.



    There is nothing wrong with you! You feel they way you feel for a reason. You body might be healed but the mind takes a little longer especially emotionally. Unless you had a hysterectomy there is no reason you can't have children if that's the case there are other ways to become a parent.



    This horrible disease affects us in so many ways. Peace and happiness will come your way just can't tell you when. One day you will wake up and be ok hope it's soon. Take as much time as you need. Make a goal for yourself and focus on it. Remember nothing worth having comes easily😊

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