Winter RADS 2012 Club...Please come join the fun!
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Dianarose, it wouldn't surprise me if the positioning alone triggered shoulder pain.
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Yeah, what cypher said. I already had old injury issues with my right shoulder and now putting it up in that overhead position and the pec getting some radiation is definitely making it flare sometimes. I was sent to a Phys Therapist yesterday which is just normal practice. She gave me some of those big rubber bands and some exercises for it that are definitely better than what I was trying to do on my own. If you can see a PT, I would now recommend it having had a good experience.
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Has anyone had or considered having a radioactive seed implant as opposed to standard radiation therapy? From what I have read, the seed stays implanted 5-7 days then is removed. It only radiates the immediate area where the tumor was. This seems a lot easier that 30 or 40 rad treatments 5 days a week. I am definitely going to consider this option.
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Waitingforthenextstep: I inquired about them but found out that I was too young. There isn't enough research to use for anyone younger than 50. My RO said that research results are due soon but she isn't comfortable yet. My co-worker used this type and was fine. She said it was a little painful to remove the bag that they use for internal radiation but had no
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Dianarose, I am seeing a pt for lymphedema, didn't even know I had lost strength and mobility in my shoulder after mx surgery, scar revisions and chemo,rads, etc. She explained that breast cancer pts can always have shoulder issues and gave me exercises. Range of motion is normal after two weeks and the sorenessI didnt even nitice before is now gone. She also said she would give me selfevaluation pointers to look for subtle problems in the future. Like allurbaddays, I have had a good pt experience.
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last tx was Friday, Dec 14... 15 day protocol in prone position with 3 boosts (on Fridays). no major issues - had tx done during lunch hour - was fatigued by end of day..did have 1 day of dizziness. but hey working full time and tx who wouldnt be fatigued?
Was told that skin on breast may become irritated after Rads...
Met 2 really nice woman at the tx center who had tx at the same time as me. Im 59 years old, the others were 69 and 80!! We had alot of laughs and plan on keeping in touch.
Good Luck to all of you and Keep Smiling
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I saw a PT after surgery, but she is an hour and a half away. I am just to tired to do the drive anymore. In 2 months between work, chemo, doctor appointments and rads I have put over 4000 miles on my car. I work as a pastry chef so I use that arm a lot. My shoulder feels better today. I did not baby it much and kept using it.
I start my 3rd week of rads on Monday and no skin irritation yet. I really like the emu oil I am using. It does not have any odor and you don't feel greasy like with lotion. I hope it continues to work. I also read that it will help hair grow. I hate this dam post chemo hair so I am going to try it on my head as well.
Hope everyone is doing ok and enjoy the rest of the weekend off from rads.
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This is interesting (well, relatively interesting anyhow)....I'm down to just 7 more tx, and you can really see the 'sunburned area' delineated in a big square, from my sternum down to the bra line, over underneath my arm, and back across the top of my chest. It wasn't really noticeable for me until the last few days. I'm suprised at how sharply defined the margins are, and I must say, somewhat impressed that they are able to target the area that well.
I would also like to briefly moan and complain that I'm tired, still mildly nauseated, and my ribcage and underarm area hurts. Meh. Done whining now. Back to your regularly scheduled program.
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Hi ladies:
Catching up on some posts here from the week to see how you are all doing and continuing to listen to your experiences. I am hoping to make some final decisions on my rad treatment this week. Internal radiation was recommended for my case, but also comes with a couple trips out of state for treatment. Talking to a rad onc here in town tomorrow about external radiation options and second opinion. I find myself in the middle of many doctors and opinions this year, none of which are in agreement in most cases. I am sure I am not the only one who comes away from things feeling more confusion than clarity sometimes. But I am making sure I ask all the questions I need to know before I finalize my decision!
I am now a month post surgery from the bilateral lumpectomy and healing well from that. I hope whatever plan I go with, we will begin right after the new year so I can get this done.
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How many are working full time during their treatment plan? I am only one week into a 7 week treatment plan and I was so glad I had the weekend to rest. I had to finish my xmas shopping so I have been doing some shopping.
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Loneskier...I'm working full time during treatment and on Friday I was so happy to have the weekend off. (8/16) I feel bad complaining when you and others are in longer plans.
I travel just over an hour each way, so that is becoming the hard part. I have three rides this coming week, so that should make it less tiring.
We own a restaurant, so I work the weekend and take days off through the week, though with Christmas parties, have worked more. Bad timing on this BC thing! Just need some Christmas Spirit so I can get everything done and survive without crashing.
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Outdamnedspot we seem to have similar treatment plans. Mine is the right instead of the left. I started on Tamoxifen on 12/1 and so far no side effects.
My situation is that it is year end at my work(I am an accountant) and I usually work OT but I can't because I have treatment right after work. My RO asked me when my busy time would be done at work and I told her that it would be when my treatment plan is done. I am thinking of taking Friday's off until the end of Jan but I am going to see how things go this week.
I do have a four day's off for xmas from treatment. I found out that I have to go on Saturday 12/29 to makeup having the 24th off.
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Loneskier, I started Tamoxifen November 13 and really nothing in the way of SEs. The odd warm flush and yesterday I had more than usual, but still okay. I was worried about aches and pains as I have enough of those with arthritis, but have been feeling good.
I have a tx on December 24 as well as an appointment with the RO. I will be off Christmas and Boxing Day, finishing up the last two on the 27th and 28th...woohoo
Then, on January 6, if all is well, we are heading to St. Maarten for one week of sun and fun. Hope my skin is intact so I can enjoy the sea. Well deserved if I do say so!
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Outdamnedspot, Your trip sound fabulous. I'm sure you have been told to keep the sun off your treatment area. (Put sunscreen on it, even if you are wearing a top over it.)
Chemo and radiation both makes me tired. Pain makes me tired. Pain meds make me tired. Not eating because of mucositis makes me tired. I'd say, if you aren't hampered by any of those things, it is possible to maintain a decent energy level throughout treatment. Since I am feeling a bit better today, I might try and ride my bike just a little.
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Thanks Elimar, it will be great. I had it planned to go there in November but had to cancel because of FBC. I have some 60 SPF that I will be using and lots of tops with short sleeves and a wide-brimmed straw hat. If I go in the water, I will wear a T-shirt to protect the area as well.
SOOOO glad to hear you are feeling a bit better today...you've had us worried! Enjoy your day
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Hi ladies:
I just started back to work on a consulting/contracting basis and told my client I could only do 30 hours max a week. I structured my day so I work mornings and will leave afternoons open for treatment and rest if I do external rad. If I do internal rad, I will be able to focus on that more by working remote around what I have to do.
I know many of us have to work on some level during all of this. which is hard. I am single and self employed so I have to work it out to do something while I am going through this. I was off for months due to some other surgery I had to have and then now the whole bc thing. I know we all do the best we can, right? -
Dianarose-I would reconsider the PT. They can give you exercises to do at home, but unless you do something about your shoulder it may only get worse. I'm having issues with my arm as well. I also had shoulder surgery two years before being diagnosed with BC so I don't wan to aggravate what I've already accomplished. Having a bad shoulder can also effect your neck as well and believe me when your neck hurts it's damn near impossible to do anything. I say make the drive to get some exercises for that shoulder and then just do them at home...religiously. Being a pastry chef you use your shoulder all day long and your neck will start to compensate for that shoulder sooner or later. I'm just saying...that's my two cents worth.
Outdamnedspot-I'm jealous! I want to go on a tropcial trip so bad! I hope you have a wonderful time.
Loneskier-Wish I could switch with you and give you my schedule for a few days. I work at a University and exams just finished so it's the least busiest time of the year for me. No one is on campus...not even my boss. I can come and go as I please until classes start back up again and that's not until Jan. 7th. We even close down for 7 days. I love it when the students are gone...even though I wouldn't have a job without them I still love it when they go for a few weeks. It's so peaceful around here. But I won't be done with rads until the end of January so I'll also be going through rads the busiest time as well...the beginning of a semester. But I won't worry about that until January!
I've been nauseated ever since chemo and it hasn't stopped. I thought is was just the residual effects of chemo...maybe not since it's been over five weeks since PFC. Then I thought it was the tamoxifen, but I don't think that's an SE is it? Could it be the radiation? If you guys are having the same problem? I haven't been able to figure out why I feel sick to my stomach every day. I'm fine until I eat something and then I feel sick. It's gotten to the point where I just don't eat much. Which isn't really the best option, but the only thing I can come up with to NOT feel so sick to my stomach.
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Sonson- I'm mostly fine until I eat something. I have this odd metallic taste in my mouth that isn't helping. I can only surmise it's from the radiation in my case, since I didn't do chemo and I'm not taking any other drugs, including tamoxifen.
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I'm going for 22/30 tomorrow and start the seven boosts on Wed. Can't believe I'm on the home stretch and wish this on all of you!
fgm - my mo wants me to start arimidex after I finish rads and my ro says no need to wait. It's annoying that we have to choose the doc that we prefer to believe - wish there was a standard of care out there. I've opted for the MO and will start arimidex in Jan. On what basis? I don't know. They're both great and I trust them both. Maybe it's cuz the MO is the one who's giving me the prescription
Shachar, welcome. Don't freak out with the rads. Not everyone has bad reactions. Thank goodness I'm doing OK - some sunburn, some suntan, but no significant pain unless I'm too rough on my poor babe. Fatigue is thank goodness minimal - just get tired one or two hours earlier some evenings. My RO said the most important rule to stick to is: hydration, nutrition, exercise (30 min a day), and sleep. Each one is critical for healing during rads (and probably in general). I try to get on the treadmill every day (don't always succeed) and don't know if that's what staved off fatigue or if something else did. But the walking helps me just feel more like myself and not a rad patient. So far, calendula has been sufficient in keeping my skin intact - loob, loob, loob. So while it's true that we never know ahead of time how we'll react, just stay positive. The women on this site are unbelievably fabulous and wise so that even if things heat up (pardon the pun), you've got tons of support and good advice. Good luck and I hope the time passes quickly and uneventfully.
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Sonson, I had nausea/lack of appetite starting a week to ten days in. Now on 27/33 and not as noticeable, or I have gotten used to it. I do notice since chemo that I can only take a small amount of sweet stuff without getting queasy- it can be tough having to pace onesself!
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Momtopiglet/Cowpower-I have a strange taste in my mouth as well and again I had contributed it to the chemo, but really chemo just made things taste like cardboard. It's hard to tell what is chemo and what isn't at this point. But I have found that if I eat sugary things that it kind of burns my tongue. I guess that's not so bad since I hear that cancer feeds off sugar and I used to love love love sugar. I can have it in drinks, but if I eat something like a sugar cookie my tongue feels like I've burned it. Again I don't know if this is something that chemo has done to me or what. Going through chemo took 15 lbs. off of me, but I could stand to lose 15 more so I'm not really complaining it's just confusing what is contributing to this lack of wanting to eat and the nausea. Today is the day I see the doctor so I guess I can ask him. Or maybe I should wait it out. Today will only be number six for me.
So when I went to PT yesterday I was told that they can't work on the cording until after rads is done, but they gave me some stretches to do at home to try to loosen it up. What I really like is that they want to try and help me get back to working out again. Chemo left me with really bad muscle aches and fatigue all over my body and I can't do the things that I used to do so they are going to help me get back to where I used to be. I couldn't be happier about that!
I hope everyone is having a good day.
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sonson, Don't wait it out. Tell the doctor and he may give you something to stimulate your appetite. Now is not a time for weight loss. It's a time for eating, all highly nutritious foods, especially protein.
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The whole "sugar feeds cancer" deal is a myth. There, I said it: It is a MYTH. Stuff your head with veggies and guess what? Your body will convert them to simple sugars for the cells to use them. If it is something a healthy cell can use, cancer can use it too. Conversely, when we kill cancer with chemo, we kill off healthy cells as well. As yet, we don't have a way to separate it all out, but one day maybe we will be able to target JUST cancer.
I'm not saying go out and buy the giant Hershey bar for your lunch, that would't be the best for nutrition and eating nutritiously is what is going to maintain your highest energy level and heal the healthy cells during and after rads treatment. Extra protein is needed for cell repair. What I am saying is if nothing at all looks good or tasty except giant slice of cheesecake, don't feel too guilty about shoveling it in.
(Note: I'm not looking to debate the other so-called "alternative" views on this subject. If, as an individual, you choose not to eat any sugar...fabulous! You will moslt likely be adhering to a more nutritous way of eating overall and I would never scoff at that. I'm just saying that cancer isn't all that particular and it likes whole grain, gluten free, organic, hormone free stuff as much as the next cell does, that's all.)
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I remembered to ask my MO if 28 treatments was it for me. Nope! I will get some boosts after that but she wants to wait to see how I do before determining how many. So I teased her a little that I don't get to circle my end date on the calendar just yet.
I had #9 today. I'm starting to get more pink and generally tired. I have been getting a little tingling and swelling in my arm. I'm doing the self massage and even wore my sleeve/gauntlet when I had a heavier activity day.
I have much to do before Christmas! Plus celebrating my daughter's 9th birthday (friend party and family party) this weekend. I don't have nearly the schedule some of you have, though. But still have plenty to get done without a good amount of energy. -
Cider, when is your daughter's birthday? My son will be 18 on Thurs. I am having a terrible time with it and wish I could turn the clock back, on lots of things, I guess. A ninth birthday, and with girls, sounds like heaven. I think there is probably still some candy or frosting stuck somewhere it shouldn't be around here from one of my sons' parties- boys are just a bit less refined when it comes to partying down! I can't believe it, but tomorrow I start my boosts, 5 of them. I am quite toasted in the armpit and doing the saline soaks, but will greatfully finish next Wed. Energy level ok as long as I nap.
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Had my first boost today. Am supposed to have my last day friday, but we have a blizzard headed our way on Thursday so I may have to come back after Christmas to finish up. Not feeling very excited about all of that. Oh well...weather guys are sooooo excited about the snow
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Yay! #10 of 30 is done. I am a third of the way through radiation treatment. It has been nice to say that today.
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Did # 11 out of 28 today. Starting to get a little pink and my skin feels like I have a sunburn. Not liking the fact that I still have 17 to go. I am always tired. I too have a terrible taste is my mouth. Sort of metalic. I thought it might be the chemo is still in me, but not sure now.
Eli- I can't down sugar being a pastry chef. I think everything in moderation is ok. Hospitals serve jello all the time and if people only knew how it was made they probably wouldn't eat it again.
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Cowpower, my daughter's bday is Sunday. I brought her home Christmas Day! Little girl party on Saturday. We will leave the house to drive up the street to the self serve frozen yogurt place. So really all I need to do is get the house clean and a couple birthday decorations. Sunday my family comes over along with the little cousins. With no school Monday they get to stay late. All of them together makes it fun/crazy!
I forgot to add that my breast is starting to swell. Not much, but I can tell. -
I'm having a little actual pain in my breast and under my arm. Have any of you experienced that? I'm not sure what it's from. The techs said that it could just be from my surgery, but my surgery was in mid june and I haven't had pain in that area in quite awhile. It's hard for me to imagine that it is not somehow rads related.
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Well, we are moving right along! 10/16 for me today and barring a snow storm, I will be sprung on December 28!!
A little pink, swollen and tender bit saw the RO today and she said normal.
Cypher...I wonder if it is anything to do with positioning especially if your arm is above/behind your head?
Good night, sleep tight!
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