December 2012 chemo group

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  • Sjesse12345
    Sjesse12345 Member Posts: 45
    edited December 2012

    jenjel, good for you calling it your treatment, I know I have to think of if that way too.  With us TNs it is so important to get that chemo in there to start doing what it needs to do since we don't have any more medications to fall back on once treatment it complete.  Sounds silly but I visualize the chemo as these tiny little robots that are running around my whole body and chomping the bad cells, my next treatment is the 26th and I'm already thinking "Bring it On, kill all those little buggers"  I know that TN is scary once you'e checked around with Dr. Google but you need to keep in mind that a lot of the information you are seeing is old already, you are receiving the best care you can with today's best medications.  I've decided that I have to deal with mine as Once Step at a Time, this first step is treatment (chemo, surgery, maybe more chemo and rads), and this first step I am actually hapy about since that is the step that is getting rid of this thing out of me.  Next step (after treatment) is I need to make changes, exercise and diet have shown to be very beneficial to TNs and I am already signed up for a yoga class, am walking every day (energy willing right now of course), knowing that I am doing everything in my power to stay healthy for a long time afterwards has done wonders for me. You will do great tomorrow!

    Bren58, I hear you about the dry hands, my skin is already dry all over to start with and I have been having to moisturize like crazy the last week or so between the dry winter air here and the chemo it's brutal.  I have about 4 tubes of moisturizer in my bag so that I am never caught without it. Even my nose is so dry that it's bleeding and I'm using the Naso Gel to try to keep that moisturised.

    Runnergirl2013, how is you hair doing today?  I'm curious as we are on the exact same schedule, my scalp is still sore but I still have most of my hair, although there sure was a lot more in the tub and on the towel after my shower earlier, but I could at this point still pull off short hair without a hat.

    Dwihtd, I agree with Runnergirl2013 on the walking, I've tried to go every day since I started chemo and yes some days it takes all my mental fortitude to get out that door but man do I feel better afterwards, both physically and mentally, it really boosts my positive energy, which we all need right now more than ever.

    Goodnight Everyone.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited December 2012

    I am off to Chemo#2 today. Packing up my cooler with ice packs, frozen peas and insulated lunch bags for my hands and feet to try towward of neuropathy and nail problems. We look like such dorks carting all this stuff in to the infusion room, but who cares? I am not bothering with the wig today as I just want to be comfy since we will be there so long. So a cute hat it will have to be for the day. DH will be there with my for the morning, then BF will come for the afternoon. Praying all goes well with the whole process.

    Hope you all have a good day with mild SE's and positive attitudes.

  • dcsandpiper
    dcsandpiper Member Posts: 26
    edited December 2012

    Hey Girls!

    It's only day 14 for me and its starting... Hair is starting to come out in chunks... Anyone else out there who started on the 4th? My scalp was hurting the last couple days... Feeling like some one had been tugging on it when I touched it.



    It's a good thing I just got my buffs on the mail yesterday! They are so comfy! Thanks for the tip on that one! But I recommend to folks not to get women's slim fit I think they are a bit tight. Though I have a lot of hair so maybe they won't be without a thick head of hair to cover. It's still a bit of a shock. I have so much thick hair I wonder if I should wait a day or two or just shave it off now. My wig place said I could go back there and they would do it and also trim my wig and show me how to style it etc. I hope the wig is comfortable to wear... It looks really nice. Maybe I'll put a pic up there on the styrofoam head. It's very hard to wear while I do have my hair. Maybe I'll make it a mother daughter thing and have mom come with me to the wig salon.



    Oh, and yesterday I realized I could tie my own darn turban... Didn't need to go out and buy them... I have lots of scarfs. As long as you have a scarf that is cotton and longer than wide rather than the square ones, you can just wrap it around your head twice, tie in the back, and it looks pretty good.



    Sheesh, just in time for Christmas! Oh well, I feel I am all prepared with various head coverings. And my DB (dear boyfriend) has been great about it all - he doesn't care and is thinking of getting a buzz cut in solidarity. Of course he's an ex Navy guy so that's not to new for him... But it's the thought that counts! And he loves the different head coverings I've collected. :-)



    More later.....

  • Runnergirl2013
    Runnergirl2013 Member Posts: 83
    edited December 2012

    i just woke up dreading today because I suspect my hair will be falling out today as i started on 12/4. Yesterday I saw more strnads in the sink than normal when blow drying.  I tugged on it this morning and not a ton came out - oh well - i know its going to happen and have to have my warrior attitude on.  I have to convince myself that this is part of the process and part of knowing that we are going to beat this cancer.

    Trying to believe that hair loss is part of the process that we have to go through to beat this - trying to have my warrior attitude on. :)

    I am going back for more blood work today as my liver counts were high last week (1 week after chemo) - say a prayer that they have started to come down.

    I am taking my four year old with me as she is so curious about the doctor and hospital and who is helping me momma treat her "owies."  It is so hard to talk to my 4 year old about this and yikes she is scared about moms hair falling out. She is convinced she won't know who I am - what a sweet innocent girl. :)

    Here are some words of inspiration for today:

    Some days there won't be a song in your heart. Sing anyway. ~Emory Austin


    The human spirit is stronger than anything that can happen to it. ~C.C. Scott

  • powermom
    powermom Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2012

    Good luck bren!

  • chrisvel
    chrisvel Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2012

    Bren58 I hope all goes well for you today! My #2 is day after tomorrow and I'll skip the wig then as well. I want to be as comfy as possible. After today you can say ONE MORE DOWN and One Step Closer to being healthy and fit again!

    dcsandpiper my hair started coming out on day 13 and I shaved it off then. Could have waited a bit longer but I wanted it over and done with. By now I am really used to wearing my hats and scarves, takes a little longer to get used to the wig for me. Your boyfriend sounds great!

    Runnergirl the hair loss IS part of the process and you can do it! You are still yourself (with or without the hair) and you can beat this! You are a warrior! We all are.

    Everyone here - I hope all of you have more good days than bad days! Some days I feel almost normal and others I'd prefer to simply stay in bed ... it's up and down but at the end of this journey we'll be fine again.

    Take care and be kind to yourselves! You deserve it!

  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited December 2012

    I'm back from my first appointment with the onco and I'm going to start chemo December 28th. It will be cytoxan and adriamycin. I also confirmed (finally...) that I am HER2 negative and my "main" tumor was 1.3 cm instead of 2.5cm that showed up on my MRI. So I think this puts me on stage IIa. One of my nodes had a micro-what's-it's-name so I'm not sure if that makes me a stage Ib, I don´t really care because chemo is waiting for me anyway... My onco said that if I saw ten doctors, about 6 or 7 of them would recommend chemo, I agreed. So it will be four cycles, and then 5 years of tamoxifen. Another confirmation today that I should start thinking about adoption if and when I want to be a mommy. I'm 34 and never had kids :( Bummer...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Chris~You look awesome!



    Sophia~My second round of Adria/cytoxan is on Dec. 28. I didn't have really bad side effects. I had a headache for about 3 hours on day 2 from the zophran (nausea med) they gave me before chemo. On Sunday I went to church and out to lunch with friends. On Tuesday I was more tired than usual, but a nap took care of that. Wednsday I was depressed. That was my second day off steroids so the downer was from those leaving my body. Thursday the funk left, but I was so cold in the evening hours I stayed wrapped in my robe, blanket, & socks with the heat cranked up. Same thing on Friday. I didn't have a fever. Saturday I was back to normal. Oh yes, from Thursday night to Friday night it felt like I peed 400 times. (Also the steroids leaving the body).



    If I had known that coming down from steroids caused the day of depression, I could have just hunkered in an rode it out easier, but I thought it had come to stay.



    If I had known that I was peeing out the steroids on day 6 & 7 I wouldn't have been worried I was getting a uti.



    I did lose my sense of taste for about 3 days, but I could taste Edy's Peppermint Ice Cream & McDonalds fish sandwich (30 grams of protein).



    Drink your fluids, be sure to rinse your mouth several times a day with the baking soda/salt mixture. I did and didn't have any problems at all with my mouth.



    Keep us posted on your progress. Oh, and be sure to have a light breakfast before you go to your treatment. I had 2 pieces of toast and a yogurt.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Dawn1008
    Dawn1008 Member Posts: 31
    edited December 2012

    Soteria, lets keep in touch. I'd like to know how you are doing since we are like sisters in this war on BC.



    The past couple of days have been hard, emotionally and physically. I have a 7 yo son who has been sick with a virus for 2 weeks. Despite masks, gloves, hand washing....I caught the crud. Been coughing my head off. Had to take a trip to ER on Sunday, spent hours there getting lots of blood tests and cultures. My WBC are extremely low, but they sent me home to rest, drink liquids, and watch my temp. At least the ER Doc had a great sense of humor and his wife had been through BC.



    The biggest thing is that my hair is now coming out by the fistfuls. It is disheartening. No matter how much you think you prepared mentally for this moment.....it comes and it sucks big time. I have a plethora of scarves, 2 wigs, and a few hats. But geez, I was really hoping that against all odds that it would hang on. I knew that this was "the week"....and so I noticed I've been putting my hands through my hair a lot. So when you start getting a lot in your hand. Whaaaaaaaaaa! So I crawled into my shower, sat on the shower stool and bawled until the hot water heater ran out.



    This morning my pillow is full of hair and I'm thinking maybe today is GI Jane Day. Today is my 19th anniversary. Dear Husband, welcome to your new wife.



    Chrisvel, I'm with you in heart. Today's the day! Good luck. <3</p>

  • Dawn1008
    Dawn1008 Member Posts: 31
    edited December 2012

    One other thing, who knew that your hair coming out would be so irritating? My scalp started off itching. Then it felt like I'd had my hair in a super tight pony tail for days...,you know that feeling like if I move my hair, my scalp hurts? And now it's just going, going, gone. I'm taking control today and shaving it off.



    Anyway, all you BC Warrior Princesses keep the faith! We are on a journey through this valley and we will prevail. Rock on!

  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited December 2012

    Paula (Soteria 205), thank you so much for your words of encouragement, so nice to know good news from someone who's doing the same medication as me! You're having your second round the same day I have my first one, so please keep me (well, us) posted. Laughing I'll do the same. I feel some mental relief now... 

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited December 2012

    volleymom77,  Happy and encouraged to read about your shrinkage.  You go, girl!

    Message to all the newest ones:  I think back to when I got my own Dx, and so relate to the outright fear involved in learning that you now have a disease that can kill.  Very normal.  All I can say is that (unless you are stage IV, and still maybe even then) that feeling will pass.  I don't know what brings it about, but one day it gets replaced by a feeling that you have gotten through this and you just no longer feel life-threatened.  One day the fear is just gone.  I think you all can get there.

  • beachlovingmom
    beachlovingmom Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2012

    Hi ladies!  I haven't posted since my first chemo (AC) on 12/14.  I have done remarkably well so far.  I was fatigued and napped a bit for the first two days after treatment but yesterday I just rested a bit.  I was able to do everything that we had planned over the weekend and yesterday I even did a little Christmas shopping after my neulasta shot.  My biggest side effect has been that my mouth feels slightly irritated, like I burned it with a hot cup of coffee.  I am using my mouthwash every time I eat.  I had one epidsode of feeling slightly queasy last night but I took my meds and it passed quickly. 

    I am hoping and praying that my SE do not get worse since chemo is cumulative.  Has anyone else had worse SE with additional AC treatments?  I am going dose dense treatment every other week so I go back on the 28th. 

    I am also dreading losing my hair.  I wanted to be proactive with the Christmas holiday so I have an appointment to get my hair cut/shaved and my very cute new wigs tailored to fit this Friday.  I couldn't bear to have my DH with me for this event...not sure why since he has been such a trooper with my surgery...so my sister is going with me.  I am so very sad about losing my long, curly hair but it has helped to read so many of you say that it was not as bad as anticipated.  I'm hoping the dreaded anticipation will be worse than the actual event. 

    I hope everyone has a great day.  I am going to venture out to finish Christmas shopping and hopefully take a three mile walk as we are having abnormally warm temperatures in Missouri today. 

    Hugs and love to my fellow women warriors!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Dawn~We'll absolutely be in each other's pockets through this battle. My Adria/cytoxan treatments are every third week. So I go back on Dec. 28. I'm praying the next round is as easy as the first one was.



    Sophia~I'm so glad my words gave you some mental relief. I pray you have an even easier time than I did.



    Girls~I really believe our attitude matters. That doesn't mean we won't get angry or cry along the way, but don't forget to smile, laugh, dance, sing!



    The Bible says (Book of Proverbs) that A MERRY HEART IS LIKE A GOOD MEDICINE. That is a scientific fact! When we laugh or sing, anabolics are released in our body that brings healing. I think that's a form of endorphins.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2012

    Good morning ladies! One week until Xmas! Thanks for weighing in on the alcohol thing. If a beer or wine tastes good on Xmas Eve I will have one. If not, that's okay too.

    Judaday - we are on the same treatment on the same schedule!

    Bren58 - Good luck with Round Two! ding ding ding!

    Runnergirl - Hoping you get low liver counts today and that your 4-year old is a good little companion!

    Sophiafred - you have pretty much the same diagnosis as me. If it wasn't for that damn smidgeon in my lymph node I may have been able to avoid chemo. Oh well, just letting the little warrier chemo drugs work their magic on my bod. I'm slated to follow up with radiation and tamoxifen. Talk about doing everything you can! Had a double mastectomy too!

    Beachlovingmom - Yeah, this hair thing is a challenge. My hair was shoulder lenth and quite thick. I cut it into a pixie on Saturday and really like it. I know it's fleeting but I figured baby steps would be a little easier. Judging by what the board is saying my hair will start falling out on Thursday so I may shave it this weekend. I'm wearing my wig at work and am happy to have it although will go for scarves and buffs at home.

    I've had sniffles for the last couple of days and am a bit sneezy. A cold or side effects? I feel fine otherwise. Hoping it's SEs. Happy Tuesday everyone!

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2012

    Paula - I completely agree about a merry heart! I chose to be happy and so I am. It's pretty cool. I also allow myself to watch funny things on television and have found I will belly laugh at slapstick like I never used to do. I also have a friend who posts stunninly beautiful pictures of nature on facebook every morning and it brings me such joy! And snuggling with my fat cat or old dog makes me merry!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    FriendGwen~Is there a video or site that shows you how to wear the buffs? I think they look great, but I don't have a clue how to do them. I have several scarves, 3 hats and a wig. I don't work outside the home, so I'll probably only wear my wig to church on Sundays. I'll even wear scarves to Wednsday night Bible study.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Runnergirl2013
    Runnergirl2013 Member Posts: 83
    edited December 2012

    Hi Friendgwen - we have a lot in common relative to our diagnosis - i had a micro-met in 1 lymph node too and thus chemo for me....we are on the same regimen too.  I am just two days ahead of you.  I also see that you ran this weekend and you are inspiring me to try it today. I have been lifting weights and walking but I am going to try to run walk today. Thanks for the inspiration.  My little girl loved seeing the hospital and now she can visualize what it's all about.  I didn't get my blood work results - waiting on that.

    Bren58 - let us know how it goes - positive vibes and hugs sent your way.

    Dawn1008 - keep your chin up and know that we will all perserve through this - we are strong!

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2012

    Runnergirl - Uh oh.. now that I've inspired you you've inspired me to keep with it. I'm sitting at my desk with my tennis shoes next to me and a great walking path out my door. Okay, okay... I'll go walk.

    Paula - there is a youtube video. Google "how to wear a buff" and you'll find a cute outdoorsy dude explaining on the ways he wears it.

  • dcsandpiper
    dcsandpiper Member Posts: 26
    edited December 2012

    Hi Paula,

    I got the buff tip from my pal over there in Germany, Chrisvel (who looks GREAT in her wig btw).

    It's "buyabuff.com"... they have a video with instructions how to use it. I just got mine yesterday (just in time!).  My favorite way to wear it is just put one end over your head and let the other end flop behind or on the side. It kind of mimics the look of hair.  They are thin and very comfortable. I ordered the women's slim fit, but I think I should have ordered regular. Flipping it into a hat makes it too tight to fit on my head (with hair, might be different after the hair falls out)

    Good luck!

    BTW, how do you upload a photo? I wanted to upload one and it seems the only option is avatars?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Runnergirl~I envy you and other runners/walkers. My doctor told me to give it up as every time I jogged my thighs rubbed together so much my underwear caught on fire!

    Actually, I have degenerative joint disease in my spine & knee, and I walk with a cane. I'd love to be able to be more active.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • chrisvel
    chrisvel Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2012

    dcsandpiper - Thank you! I don't wear the wig all the time, it still feels a little strange but, yes I like the look. My sister and a friend said the style is a lot better than my own before Smile

    As for uploading a photo, I think the avatars are the only way or does anyone know different?

    The video that shows "how to wear the buff" is the one that FriendGwen described. I think I found it simply by putting in "buffs".

    For mouth wash - my doc recced me tea made from sage ... and for me it works quite well. Did anyone else try this or do you all use the salt/baking soda mix?

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2012

    Steiner - Yeah, I'm taking that mega dose 50,000 of Vitamin D. What were the SEs your friend had? I've taken it twice and haven't noticed anything.

  • sophiafred78
    sophiafred78 Member Posts: 91
    edited December 2012

    FriendGwen - yes, we have a very similar diagnosis. I can't avoid noticing that you had a prophylactic mastectomy that my doctors seem to be very sure I don't need (I'm not so sure myself, I'll probably go for a second one, haven't decided) and once again, I find someone who has one node positive and didn't have to take them all. For my BS, taking ALL the nodes was mandatory (and I also had just a smidgeon) and now I'm stuck with lymphedema (I just came from physical therapy). How many different treatments can we find for the same diagnosis? And we have something more in common: I have, not one, but two fat cats and an old dog Laughing 

  • MTJulie
    MTJulie Member Posts: 63
    edited December 2012

    Sophia and Friendgwen-my diagnosis is similar to both of yours and my breast surgeon said there was the same prognosis for a lumpectomy vs. a mastectomy and said there was no better outcome from taking all the lymph nodes than to take one. I was glad she felt that way because my dearest friend, a 10 year survivor of bc, has terrible problems with lymphadema, and I wanted to avoid that if I could. At this point, I am glad I still have my boobs, but I don't know if I will feel like that a year from now. I might still get a bmx.

    Gwen, your cheerful attitude just cheers me up! I find myself looking for comedies to watch on tv, and find a reason to laugh ou loud every day. It seems to help. I have been having a hard time getting out to walk. I live where the wind never seems to stop blowing in the winter. It's a challenge for me to make myself go out in it even when I am feeling good. It really does improve how I am feeling when I do get out.

  • Dawn1008
    Dawn1008 Member Posts: 31
    edited December 2012

    Steiner and FriendGwen,

    I am also on the mega doses of vitamin D. I took my first one on Thurs. I haven't noticed anything, but I'm under the weather with a sinus/virus thing (unrelated). I'm determined to be well by Christmas! I have my next AC on Christmas Eve. Anyway, I'd like to know about those SE from the D too. Thanks! Have a peaceful evening.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited December 2012

    Sophia - glad you have a workable plan! It is always good to know what the next steps are. Keep in contact with the other girls with the same dx/tx. They will be a great support.

    Dawn - so sorry about you and your son being sick. Seems just not fair with everything else!

    Beach - glad you are doing well so far. The hair thing is a big deal, but you might feel better if you take control of when it goes even though you can't control that it is inevitably going.

    I am back from round #2. The day went well but was long as usual. Got there at 8:30am and didn't leave until 4:30pm. I guess I have one more day of feeling ok before the inevitable steroid crash and fatigue. At least this time around I know more of what to expect and have all the meds, etc to counter the SE's. I am taking my stool softeners and fiber so I don't wind up with the big C this around!

    I love have all you girls and your support and encouragement!

  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited December 2012

    1 round done.  I couldn't sleep last night, woke up at 3,4,5 then just got up.  Steroids jack me up so this morning I was hyped up on the steroids and treament was about 5 hours.  Tired today.  Ready to go to bed for sure.  Will catch up with others tomorrow.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited December 2012

    Jenjen - glad you got round #1 over with! Hope you can get some sleep tonight.

  • volleymom77
    volleymom77 Member Posts: 92
    edited December 2012

    Hey my head or hair hurts too, sleeping tough my scalp itches and hurts, in the shower when the water hit the back of my head ouch. I took benadryl but it still itches, hope goes away when hair falls out. I also have very thick hair, had it cut super short to help with fall out. Hey Dawn my name is Dawn too. Hang in there guys my SE have been tough but my main tumour is shrinking. Does any one have any advice for my sore head, if it doesn't get better calling doc tomorrow, need my sleep spent half the night rubbing my sore itchy head last night.

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