For those starting TAC in March/April 2006....
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i was told my neulasta shots cost $3,500. it's amazing. but god bless the researchers who are responsible for its development.
i joined my insurance company in january and found my lump in february. i bet they're real happy to have me on board. -
Hi Fellow TAC Gals,
I'm 67 and was diagnosed at 64 with Stage 2B BC. Three small tumors and 5 out of 13 lymph nodes. Started TAC January 04 and rarely found anyone else on the regimen. My onc here At Scripps Breast Center in San Diego felt it was (and still is) the best treatment. He said I was fit and healthy for my age and could take it so we might as well hit hard. There were times I felt maybe I wasn't as strong as he thought but I got through it and so will all of you. I learned to just give in to the fatigue. Spent days 4 and 5 on the couch when I finally managed to get out of bed then gradually got stronger until I felt pretty good the last three or four days before the next hit. My eyes and nose ran constantly, I was always constipated and lived on prunes, carrots, apples, peanut butter and creme caramel. Probably not an ideal diet, but it's only temporary.
The nose was a particular problem as I had no nose hair and wasn't always aware right away. Don't forget, you lose every hair on your body. I used to get in the shower and just stand there--no hair to wash, no legs to shave, what in the world does my husband do in there every day for such a long time?
Our son does Ironmen Triathlons and I always wondered why he put himself through such a grueling event. The day I walked out after TAC #6 I knew! I was bald, eyes streaming, stomach upset, terrible constipation, mouth sore but I felt like I had won Olympic Gold. I made it!
Best of all, I'm going in this month for my 2-1/2 year check up. I am nervous, can't help it and think I'll be nervous at every check up forever but I'm still here and life has never been better.
Hang in there, it will soon be over.
JulieS -
Julie, Thank you for sharing your story. You are right on mark about the side effects and how TAC makes you feel. Congratulations on completing your TAC. Some of us including myslef need the motivation now it seems. I hope you will live a very long long and healthy life. And I hope you never have to deal with cancer again.
Take care and good luck.
Marcia -
I hope nobody is superstitious over today's date- 6/6/06 - I Guess we are already fighting the beast(BC)!
Kburns- How are you doing after #4? Are you still having chest pressure?
Paula- Ready for the next round? I will be thinking of you this week.
Leigh - I hope you are enjoying your time on the boat.
Mindy, Let us know how your therapy goes on your lymphadema.
Karen in Denver - How are you doing? Feeling better now?
Jeannette, Molly, Terry and everyone else ready for the next round?
I am enjoying my good days for now but I sure get tired easy. Everyone take care and check in when you can.
MarciaA. -
Well, guess what today is?! My TAC day LOL What better way to enjoy 6/6/06 than lounging in a recliner getting pumped full of nasty drugs? Ah well, could be worse. #5 is alive! hehe anyone remember that movie? "Short Circuit"
Marcia, I'm so glad you're feeling better than your first treatment! I hope that last one I had was the worst for me. This time I am getting a neulasta shot, and a shot for rbc's. That should help with my fatigue and all that.
Good grief what a trip this has been so far. I didnt' sleep for more than 2 hours last night. (normal for me before treatment) Right now I'm downing juice and water as I get ready to go in about 90 minutes. Will check in with y'all later tonight I hope!
Paula -
Well, I never slept last night lol. But I did make it thru everything ok. That Emla cream really helped the pain in my port when they plugged me in. So far I just feel a little quesy and tired. My husband and daughter are home, so I am going to go up to bed now. If the nap turns into bedtime, who cares?! I deserve some rest. More later.
Paula -
Paula, That is great...one more treatment done! hurray. One more closer to being done. I always feel such a sense of acomplishment when i finish one even though I know the sickness and fatigue follow. Hope you are resting well.
My 4th one isn't until June 16th. So I've got a few good days ahead of me as long as I can get rid of this cold and cough that I've developed. Can't seem to shake it.
It is so beautiful outside...I live only a couple miles from the ocean. Wish I felt good enough to go to the beach.
Let me know how you guys are all doing?
Molly -
Leigh here -
Molly, sorry you're not feeling better - maybe just open a window and smell the salt air?
Paula - glad to hear another one down! Enjoy that nap/sleep!
Marcia - thanks for checking in. We had a great weekend on the boat, looking forward to many more over the summer. Decided to take a vacation weeks between chemo and radiation, week of 24 July. Trying to reach the radiation guy, no success today (scheduler out).
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HI Marcia,
Its Karen in Denver - thanks for asking. Yes, finally I am feeling decent - it seems to take a good 10 days to feel decent after chemo. The horrid taste is gone and I have an appetite. It seems that I start to feel a little better about day 4 or 5, but then one week later, I take a down turn for a couple days then rebound again. It is very hard to eat or drink the first several days after chemo, so that is why I go for IV hydrations. By day 9 or 10 I can eat and drink adeqate amounts. I am on the count down to chemo #5 - 9 days - its 6/15. Each one has been worse, so I am just expecting it to be lousy. This is a busy month for appts - breast surgeon (3 months follow up), see gyn to talk about ooph, plastic surgeon and consult with radiation oncologist plus chemo - plus trying to work in between. I am done work for the summer 6/23 -have about 6-7 weeks off - too bad, part of the time is taken up with chemo #7 and starting rads. Hope everyone else is doing well. Karen -
Yep, I spent today down at the treatment center, also. This was #3 for me. I'm half way. This sure felt like a "hump day". You're right. There is a feeling of accomplishment when you get another treatment finished. I'm feeling better tonight than last time. I usually sleep all week. So far I had some kind of infection with each of the first two treatments. I'm hoping this one will go better. I'll just have to wait and see.
Jackie
Marcia - I remember "Short Circuit". -
Dear ladies,
I started in May but you ladies have a much more active site and I wondered if I could join and chat. Had my second TAC last week and really appreciated reading Julie's thread; feeling wiped out is such a challenge for me .. and despite feeling tired, I feel like I barely slept last night. Am going back to work today and hope I can do four hours without conking out at my desk. Jackie, God bless you, you are half way done. Thanks for letting me share.
Brigitte -
Welcome Brigitte, We'd love you to join this TAC thread. This is a great place to share your thoughts. Two down is great!
Molly -
Yesterday was chemo #4. Hopefuly it won't be to bad. I have heard that #4 is the worst, but I keep telling myself that it will be a good one for me. Please let me know how you did on #4. So far, just tired. I have been takind my nausea meds just to try to keep the nausea away. I go back today for therapy for my lumphadema. I had my blood drawn on Monday and my wbc was 7 so that is good. Still have to go for the neulasta shot today.
Hope everyone is doing ok.
Take care,
Mindy
P.S. I will be walking in the Relay for Life on the 23rd of June. I also wanted to share that they also have lumminary lights that you can make for bc survivors and people going through bc. I will be making on with all of our names on it. -
Hi everyone...Marcia, thanks for checking in. I am one week after chemo #4 and doing really well. My onc lowered my dosage 20% after the fever, hospital and exhaustion last time. She also increased my steroids. I can not tell you how much better I feel this time!!!! OH MY GOSH! It is so weird having a little energy. I don't know what to do with myself.
So far, a little shortness of breath, but no chest pains. A little more nausea, but nothing big. Am have some leg pain today from the Neulasta shot.
I do worry a bit about the reduced dosage. Guess I feel like this is the big shot to get rid of anything that may be lingering and is it really worth it to feel better for a few weeks if I really NEEDED that extra 20%.
I am going to talk to my Dr. Friday about it, but has anyone else had the discussion about lowered dosage?
Take care everyone!! We are on the count down now....!
Karen -
Kburns, Because of the neuropathy in my hands feet and face my dosage of Taxotere was reduced by 15% for chemo #4 and 25% for chemo #5. I had a reaction with the pressure and flushing during administration at my #5 chemo. My Doc said that if the side effects were getting severe that lowering my dosage would not decrease survival stats. The reasoning is that some people get allergic reactions and it is better to get smaller dosages that the body can tolerate than no dosage to work with the other drugs that kill the cells. I asked him since some people get AC then T if I should get the percentage I decreased it by at a supplemental dosage at the end of the treatments. They said no that it wasn't necessary. That TAC was a strong protocol in itself.AC is divided up into 6 doses because the Taxotere was so strong and toxic that it takes 6 treatments to get the dosage in. But that 25% was the maximum dosage to reduce it by. I am supposed to get additional hydration with it next time to help offset the reaction.
Brigitte, You are more than welcome to join in with us. TAC is like a roller coaster that none of us like riding. With the good days and bad days throughout the cycle it is good to have each other her to pick us up when the down times come. As for sleeping, I haven't had a decent night of sleep since I started chemo. Anybody out there have wierd dreams since the chemo?
Karen in Denver, Your experiences with chemo sound a lot like my days. My family expects me to be better a few days after chemo then whammo I am hit with fatigue! My Gosh you need a personal assistant to keep up with your appointments. 6 to 7 weeks off? Sounds like you will be busier that ever. Let us know how things go. As we all finish chemo in the next months or so it will be interesting to see what tests we have to see if the chemo worked and what radiation we all are offered. Thanks for the update.
Jackie, congrats on #3, Half way is always good. Usually by this time you can master the worst of the side effects. Jackie I loved Raggedy Ann much better than Barbie.
Mindy, I have had 5 chemos and the 4th was the easiest so far. I take neulasta shots the day after. The shots work but each one is a little less effective. My wbc count was normal this last time as opposed to slightly elevated like in earlier checks. And my RBC count (hemoglobin) is dropping every time I get it checked. Started out as 12.8...now 11.4 as of last week and I know it is even lower. The oncologist won't give me procrit until I bottom out to 10 or less. But I can relate to the tiredness. Thank you for participating in the Relay for life and thinking of us with the luminaries .I hope all of us will be survivors one day.
Good to hear everyone is doing ok. Paula check in and let us know how you are doing when your rough days are over.
Take Care!
MarciaA. -
Brigitte - Just wanted to say welcome...this thread has been so helpful for those of us on TAC, you'll find a lot of good posts and see the variety of experience, and we'll be happy to lift you up on your journey...Leigh
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Welcome brigitte to the wonderful world of TAC!
Last night was a horror for me lol. I can take either a headache OR nausea but putting both together is unfair IMO. I also sweated heavily all night! I noticed that bloating in the abdomen on tac 4 and had mentioned it to the nurse, and she told me to take, of all things, a gasX if it happened again! So I did, and the nausea went away. I bet it was just from the tummy being pushed on. ANyway, I went to sleep and did my usual waking up every 2 hours or so, but I did get some sleep. Feel lots better today, no headache or nausea, just tireds. My hubby stayed home, so I'm going to go back to bed. I actually had enough energy to change my sheets, and take a shower lol. Can't say I didn't do anything today.
only 1 more only 1 more only 1 more only 1 more....
Paula -
Well, there was something else I wanted to put in my last post, but now I can't remember what it was!! And all I did was go out and come back in. Chemo Brain strikes again!!
Aww crap, if I remember I'll be back later LOL
Paula -
I am so thankful to be welcomed! today was a rough day at work; I felt like I could not focus on anything, and my eyes felt blurry. Finally went home and took a nap around 2. IT seems like the second treatment has pushed everything ahead by one day; last time, I felt much better by the following Wednesday. This time, I am hoping I feel better by tomorrow. The sleeping in small doses is such a pain! As are the night sweats ... the doc told me I'd go thru menopause but I didn't expect it quite so quickly!
Here's hoping everyone has a restful night. I'm trying a cup of chamomile tea to get me settled .. ice cream is making me nauseaus at this point...
Hugs, Brigitte -
Hey Ladies, thank you all for being so open with your experiences. I just started TAC, and go for round 2 on Monday. I've seen many of you post about feeling worse with each round. Do you feel worse longer, like for more days? In other words, do you have more bad days with each round? I'm in grad school and wondering if I should count on missing more days as time goes on. I had 3.5 bad days with round one. Will I have more bad days, or just feel worse on my bad days? What do you think?
Luckysmom---I too had a few night sweats, and was surprised at how soon they came on.
Peejay---I had bad headaches, and only one day did I have both. What is that all about?
I could sure use some on-line hugs, too. Anyone have any? I am working evening shift so don't get to attend support group meeting. I guess I'm whining because I know next week is THE week. -
Hey crazy, at the risk of cursing myself.. My first 2 Tac's were not bad at all, then 3 and 4 sucked, this one seems to be going a lot like my first one did. Last night was terrible, then today was ok, just tired. I think the headache was more from heat here and anxiety. I did have a night sweat last night too! And here's a ton of online hugs for you!! {{HUGS!!!}}
Anyway I'm heading for beddy now. Hopefully more sleep than peeing tonight! And I pray that I keep having an easier time this time!
Paula -
My treatments have been getting easier. (all 3) I don't expect that to be a guarantee for next time. It might be because I know better what to expect and have some ideas how to deal with it all. I don't think there is any one way for this all to work. There are just too many factors. Try not to overdo it right before you go in so you're rested and drink, drink, drink (water ;-)
{{HUGS!!!}}
We all need extra hugs through this "adventure"
Jackie -
Even being on the light end of side effects, I would say the duration has gotten marginally longer (from say Days 2-5 now more like Day 1.5 to 6) and I'm more tired. Conversely, some side effects don't appear at all in some cycles but do in others with no apparent progression. It's so variable for all of us - I have traveled on Day 6 and gone back to work on Day 7 each time (4 so far), so that was an adequate "window" for me. HUGS!!! Leigh
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Hi everyone!
I went away for 3 days and came back to this incredibly long set of posts. Wow!
Last week was chemo 3 for me. At the end of the week I went to a sweat lodge and lasted 3 rounds, which was great. Felt so good that I convinced the DH to go to our near-mountain retreat for a few days. We have no phone, electric, tv, etc down there so it is a real retreat and very peaceful. It's a good healing spot.
So now I am back and trying to do some work. This round hasn't been too bad - but seems to go up and down as far as my energy and physical comfort are concerned. (lots of intertinal rumblings, but no "major action"). Considering what you are all saying, I am taking things one day at a time.
Jeannette -
morningskywoman, I bought Amgen stock after getting "involved" in breast cancer.
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Here I am on day three. I can't sleep, can't eat, can't think. I'm just a staring mushy lump. Blech! Maybe I'll change my hat. Then I'll look different.
Jackie -
Hi Jackie--When I felt like that I took my Ativan---did you get some prescribed? I just slept through it in a pharmacological fog. I'm in school to become an Anesthetist, so I'm pretty much all about what drugs can do to help! Even Tylenol PM is good!
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Thanks everyone for the feedback! Leigh, I've been reading your threads for over a week, and you have really lifted me.Something about you, your strength and candidness. I'm not very good at that, but would like to be more like that.
Anyway, I'm doing the Race for the Cure this Saturday in Raleigh, NC, and since it is right before my next treatment (#2, so it's still early for me), I may actually be able to run it. I just started being able to run since my surgery, so I'm pretty excited. My grad school class registered a team in my name which I thought was incredibly thoughtful, and we've raised almost $3,000. Alot of my friends responded very generously, and I raised almost $2000 of that myself. It makes ya feel like you did something good in the face of something aweful. I'm glad you got to do yours. -
crazy2kayak,
Thanks for the suggestions. I don't have any Ativan but the Tylenol sounds good.
Jackie -
I love reading how all of you are feeling, both mentally and physically. Even though it has been a week since chemo dose two, I still find my tummy getting upset at the idea of certain foods and smells. It's not nearly as bad as right after treatment, which reminded me of pregnancy (no cooking red meat please!). Other than that, I had an incredible hot flash at my office desk yesterday and wished I could take a shower immediately! My doc told me that the chemo would push me into menopause because I was on the verge of it anyway (I'm 47) but really, having to go thru something in a few weeks that most ladies drag out for five years (such as my mother!) is a bit much!
Last night, I taped off my head. Before you wonder what the heck I'm talking about, I'm afraid of cutting my head shaving so I took some painters tape and used it on my stubble ... it worked great and pulled out all my little hairs painlessly and easily.
My organization's annual fundraiser is tomorrow and I'm so excited and happy to have something positive to focus on .. I work at our local humane society ..
One more thing, as I ramble on, my doc prescribed Ambien for my sleep problems but I keep reading more and more scarey stuff about side effects. Should I try Ativan instead, or maybe just Tylenol PM?
Have a wonderful day,
Hugs to all, Brigitte
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