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  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited December 2012

    cowpower, when someone says "At least it was caught early and you're not like in stage 3 or anything" it is almost always awkward except when I heard it from one friend who lost her mother to ovarian cancer a couple of years ago - and she was saying it in the nicest, most sincere open-faced way - it was ok because I knew she meant, "What a relief for you and your loved ones." you know?

    sonson, I was scheduled for PT even though I only had one node removed. It's apparently common practice at our center for BC patients to get PT consults. (we don't have cookies or fleecy gowns but there are other good practices...) I actually tried to get out of it but got a reschedule. Can you ask for PT if you're not getting it?

    LifeOnItsSide, Crap. I hope you get an answer swiftly and that it's a good one. I will keep my fingers crossed.

    momtopiglet, I homeschool also but only have one student. You have quite a handful there and I know it's a full-time job. You are holding down a job during treatment. (My husband said to me a couple weeks ago, "At least you haven't had to work." <- yeah, planning out and supervising and teaching isn't any work, honey... but I know he was trying to help me count my blessings.)  I quit some high stress, nearly volunteer activities I had immediately after diagnosis or within a month or so after. Those I don't feel guilty about. Some "mom" things I feel guilty about sometimes and that my homeschooling hasn't been too much other than straight outta the box stuff all fall. If "mom" guilt kicks in, I usually call in a friend or two to help me out by including my son in something that I usually would do but am not up to these days. I really HATED requesting help and then subsequently letting some people know about my diagnosis - I've generally kept it on a need-to-know basis. My homeschooling group here mostly knows even though I'm not close to many of them but I showed up much thinner and with a bandana on my head and no eyebrows. :/  feel free to message me.

    3 down, 27 to go, Rightie is warmer than leftie but so far she's not pink. My nipple's a little tender but it has been since lumpectomy so it's only slightly worse.

  • momtopiglet
    momtopiglet Member Posts: 28
    edited December 2012

    Hahaha.  You guys are pretty funny.  Okay, so I'm going to stop feeling guilty. Tongue Out

    So y'all got me thinking about the music situation at my office, and I noticed they have satellite radio there, on some jazz station.  It's nice, actually.  I've noticed it before.  Not sure what station (aren't there, like, a billion or something?) but now it's mixing in Christmas music with smooth jazz.

    I also asked the doctor a couple of weeks ago about whether wearing antipersperants was okay.  At this practice, at least, he said go for it. Surprised He said they felt like the latest research showed it made no real difference in the outcome one way or another, and unless I had some issues with irritation, to go ahead and use it.  So....um...I use it.  So far, so good.

    And while I'm on the subject of underarms......I actually use an epilator there; I haven't bought or used a razor in years.  Remember the 'epilady' back in the 80's? Well, I use her great-great-grand-daughter:  a Braun Epilator. (You can check them out on Amazon.)  It's awesome, actually.  Pretty much like waxing.  No hair, and it lasts for weeks.  Anyhooo.....on the radiated side, while the hair hasn't exactly 'fallen' out due to the radiation, it does come out MUCH easier than normal.  Usually it takes several passes with the epilator to remove all of the hair, but since starting radiation, it takes maybe TWO passes to remove all of the hair.  So clearly the radiation is doing a number on the hair......Cool  I highly recommend an epilator or waxing, if shaving is out.

    mom24boyz:  REALLY??!! A pillowcase??!!  NOT COOL! I might consider purchasing a gown and bringing it with me in my purse.......Wink

    Cypher:  speaking of wigs....one of the rads techs complimented me on my haircut the other day...she told me it looked really cute, and wanted to know if it was real or if it was a wig. Embarassed I told her it was real......

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited December 2012

    Guess I should put my two cents in about the whole gown/cover up issue.  Back when I had my breast rads, I changed into a gown for the sim but after that I just wanted to get in and out of there QUICK, and wanted to just hop on the table topless and get it over with.  The techs gave me some towel to cover up while I walked the five steps from the clothes hooks to the table, o.k. whatever; and they put a washcloth-sized thing on my non-treatment side during the rads.  My rads only took about five minutes, so top or no top, fine with me.

    Fast forward to now, my rads are on the other end (colorectal cancer) and, again, no gown.  It is now basically a drop your drawers procedure (which they somehow find a way to screen some of me chastely with a towel, so I do not feel so "exposed."  It is pretty weird, but again I don't want to bother with a gown for what is now a less than ten minute procedure, besides the exams I've had to endure already "exposed" me plenty.  Upon completion of this series of rads, I will be ready to embark on a new career as a pole dancer, as I will have no modesty at all left.

    Well, maybe instead of my two cents, I gave a nickel's worth.  Keep the change.  Wink

  • aliyahgirl
    aliyahgirl Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2012

    Hi everyone.

    I love catching up on everyone since I haven't been in since page 3.  Welcome to everyone new and i'm so glad for everyone seeing light at the end of the tunnel.  And Happy Birthday Heidismom.  I just finished 16/30 and can't believe I'm beyond the halfway mark.  It seems like day to day the time creeps and then at the end of the week I can't believe I'm 5 further than I was last week.   So far so good, though I'm starting to get that suntan glow around the periphery and more pink on the breast itself - thank goodness not hurting yet.  Calendula rocks!! - hope I can say the same thing next week!Wink

    The techs are really nice - they just don't believe me when I say that I'm not getting the same # of zaps from the right and left.  They tell me it's the exact same for both sides and that the RO programmed it and that they couldn't change it even if they wanted to.  But I could swear that I always get 4 zaps coming from the left side and three (sometimes 4) coming from the right.  I have to ask the RO - it's really creeping me out a bit.  I agree with whoever said when you lying there on the table you're super aware of expecting the same pattern day in and day out. 

    I always wear an underwire and the RO told me to keep on wearing it b/c she wants me to have the support.  I found this cotton bra liner and I double it over lengthwise and put it right up under my babes to avoid the skin on skin rubbing.  Then I lay a second one just under the wires.  So far it's a great system.  Here's the link for the liner.  www.harrietcarter.com and put 'cotton bra liners' into the searchbox.  They come three to a box and are totally worth it. 

    Allurbad - Someone a while back had mentioned looking at Lane Bryant for bras and I found on a chatroom there a lady who did such a clever thing!  I tried it and it worked - I use it at night.  She just made a small slit in her bra at the top of where the wire is, and pulled out the wire.  So voila - you have a bra that's build like fort knox to accomodate the wire and it's good enough to hold 'em up at night without that awful feeling (like being squeezed) all night.  Hope this helps.

    Short6 - good luck on Tuesday and I hope the time will pass quickly and uneventfully!

    Funny about the itch, andrea, I get it too - every time she finishes with getting me in place!

    Take care, lovely ladies, and have a wonderful Sunday.  Back to the salt mines on Monday!  Wishing everyone a week of cool babes...


  • aliyahgirl
    aliyahgirl Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2012

    Has anyone heard about not using any products with parabens in them? I think they are preservatives used in alot of health and beauty products like shampoos, etc.

  • cvmarilyn
    cvmarilyn Member Posts: 179
    edited December 2012

    Dear Life - I hope you are doing OK.... please keep us posted. Sending you a hug,

    Marilyn

  • cypher
    cypher Member Posts: 508
    edited December 2012

    allyahgirl, I have heard from a very reputable source that parabens are a bad idea and you should try to avoid them.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited December 2012

    Thanks for the good thoughts, everyone. I had the CT scan today since my RO absolutely insisted, down to calling me several times yesterday to make sure it got scheduled for today. His insistence is freaking me out a bit. They scanned my chest and neck area, especially focusing on the area where they swelling is. I won't have an answer until Monday, I'm sure. What also concerns me is that my jaw is also starting to ache just above where the swelling is. Hopefully, it's nothing serious but I will let you all know when I hear something. So no rads until they figure it out. Ugh.

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited December 2012

    aliyahgirl, thanks for the tip on the underwires. I may have to do that for the day-use ones too. The sports bras I have for night are not too serious - not that smooshy - so they are so far so good but I very much aprecciate the tip and am also looking at harrietcarter.com.       Which calendula cream or ointment are you using? I started some itching under my right boob last night and so I used some Weleda calendula cream I bought for this experience. It helped, definitely. I'm just curious about other brands in case something about this one doesn't work for the whole rads.        and Yes, I avoid parabens but since they are ubiquitous I think I still have some conditioner around (not that I need it yet) that has some in it. I started avoiding them though because of sensitive skin, it seemed like they contributed to my eczema and dermatitis. The wikipedia article on parabens lists studies that say they're nothing conclusive at this time to think that parabens contribute to breast cancer or "A 2005 safety assessment of parabens concluded that cosmetics containing parabens do not, on the basis of currently available evidence, pose a health risk; because of the low doses involved and the low probability that parabens will penetrate into the tissue, remain intact, and accumulate there."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraben#Breast_cancer

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited December 2012

    Lifeonitsside, I would be concerned too. Heck, I freak out over any new pain now. I hope you hear something soon! I've got my fingers crossed for you!



    Should I worry about parabens if I no longer have breasts?

  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited December 2012

    Lifeonitside, prayers and good thoughts for you. Please keep us posted when you're able.

  • aliyahgirl
    aliyahgirl Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2012

    Lifeonitsside, wishing you all the best with the reports on the scan. 

  • cypher
    cypher Member Posts: 508
    edited December 2012

    Lifeonittsside, you must be going nuts waiting!  Yes, sending good thoughts your way and please let us know when you find out.

    Re the parabens, I figure, better to avoid them.  There are lots of great products now that don't have them, aveda, the body shop, st. ives- -which is an excellent drugstore brand.  I'm not as worried about it for hair products -- right now I need stuff that REALLY helps detangle and one of the products I have for that does have parabens (I did the cold caps so I have hair but I have to be really gentle with it, but it's still curly and prone to tangling so ....)

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited December 2012

    Lifeonitsside, THIS SUCKS GOLF BALLS! So sorry you have to put up with this crap during treatment, to boot. I will be thinking of you, please keep us posted. ((((Hugs))))

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited December 2012

    Loneskier, best of luck tomorrow. I found the first few times q bit more intimidatingthan I expected. Now I listen to music and nap! It will go by fast, cant believe Tomorrow is 22/33 for me already.





    Loveofcritters, are you out there? How are you doing?

  • momtopiglet
    momtopiglet Member Posts: 28
    edited December 2012

    Life- I would be totally stressing.  Hang in there! Hugs and hoping it's a whole lot of nuthin'! 

    I just remembered another thing I do to pass the time when I go to rads- I downloaded a bunch of books onto my phone to read. It's pretty engrossing and gives me something to look forward to, especially since I rarely have time to sit down and read a book in my 'real life'.  Just another thought to make the time in the waiting room pass......

  • jennsmc
    jennsmc Member Posts: 15
    edited December 2012

    Lifeonitsside - So sorry you have to wait for answers.  This stuff is really a test of patience isn't it?  Sending hugs your way!

    Momtopiglet - It was definitely weird to tell everyone at my work about my BC.  I work in construction and I really didn't feel like broadcasting it.  I only told my boss and a few close co-workers at first.  Then I had to tell everyone in my department to explain why I'm gone so much.  I didn't want them mad at me for dumping so much of my workload on them.  The weird thing is that the guys have been much more supportive than the few ladies that work for us.

    I'm on 9/35 tomorrow.  The SE's I'm having are pinkness, soreness, swelling, and heaviness.  No fatigue yet.  I started using the aloe juice from one of my aloe plants last Tuesday, and it seems to be taking away the pinkness.  However, the nipple soreness has been getting worse.  I see my MO on Mondays so I will ask her about it tomorrow.

    On the gown issue, ours aren't too bad.  They tie in the back and go down to our upper thighs.  I feel really bad for the man that goes in right after me.  He has to completely undress and he's stuck trying to cover up his backside and pulling it down as much as possible.  Surprised

  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited December 2012

    Jennsmc: a product called udder balm is very good for nipple tenderness, I recommend you use whatever moisturizer your RO recommends, or what the ladies on this forum swear by, on the whole breast and use it at least 3 x day. Plus, whenever you possibly can, give the area some air. Definitely not recommended at work! Lol. I'm heading into the homestretch and have done fairly well with that method. My skin is pink, breast a bit swollen, definitely dark in one area in the underarm, but no blistering or peeling. Some itchiness but overall Holding up ok. Fatigue not a big issue for me, just listen to your body and get to bed early. I did not have chemo, but those who did are feeling fatigued more easily it appears, quite understandably. Good luck!

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2012

    Man, I take a break for the  weekend and you guys are just posting like crazy!

    Lifeonitsside-I'm thinking of you today.  Sending hugs your way and hope you get a good report today.  Maybe his hmmm's are just trying to decide how to better position you so it doesn't effect you in this way.  Think positive...I know it's hard, but think positive.

    I wish someone would offer PT for me.  I keep asking if I need some PT and my MO and my RO keep saying nah, I don't think you need it.  I'm thinking I may need it and I'm thinking I may start demanding that I want it.  My RO keeps blowing me off about it, and he's about to find out that you can't blow me off about things.

    So someone posted somewhere about shaving the under arms and I wasn't really aware that you couldn't shave your under arms during rads, but I guess that's where us girls that have been through chemo have one up on you girls that haven't been through chemo.  We don't have any hair...any where!  So shaving isn't a problem.  I guess that's one advantage to having chemo...although I would have to say I would still like to have your problem of not being able to shave.  In other words I would still like to have hair on my head.  My last chemo treatment was 11/14 and today I noticed for the very first time that my eyes didn't tear up when I went outside in the cold like they normally did all throughout treatment.  Hopefully that means that the chemo is slowly coming out of my body!  Now if only my hair would grow!

    Tomorrow morning is my first radiation treatment of 33.  It's going to be a long ride.

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2012

    Oh btw, thanks fgm for the youtube video link that was very informative and useful!  I appreciate it very much.

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited December 2012

    LifeOnItsSide - Good luck today! My fingers are crossed and thoughts are with you too. I'm voting for sonson's hypothesis about the RO's "hmmm"s.

  • PKateb
    PKateb Member Posts: 9
    edited December 2012

    I am looking forward to raditation therapy this winter - hah!  I am looking for the best place to go - can anyone provide tips for how to select the best radiation oncologist?

  • fgm
    fgm Member Posts: 831
    edited December 2012

    Sonson-you're welcome.  I think I found it on the lymphedema thread.  Good luck tomorrow.  I just did #3.  It's definitely not as bad a chemo.  Just lay there and think happy thoughts. Then go home and lube the boob.

    PK- I asked my MO for a recommendation.  She gave me 3 ROs and told me which one she thought I would like and  she was right.  You can google the recommendations and a lot of times people have reviewed them.  Good luck.

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2012

    Elimar-sorry I was rereading everyone's posts because I didn't look at anything over the weekend...anyway thanks for responding.  I actually haven't even started rads yet (I start tomorrow) and that was one of my concerns.  But I get what you are saying.  That there will be some swelling and I guess I just never noticed that before although I don't know how I over looked that.  But in any case...if some swelling is normal I guess I just have to live with it.  But it's tight on my right side which is also my lumpectomy/node removal side.  I will ask again maybe not about LE because maybe it's not that YET, but maybe just about getting some PT, because as I understand it the radiation isn't going to make this any better.  I am right about this aren't I?  As I read all of your posts and the wonderful women who are ahead of me this kind of messes with your arm in many ways not just the skin around the area that is getting zapped, right?  I want to take care of a small problem that I'm currently having before it becomes a huge problem.  And maybe that's why my RO is blowing me off because it's not a lymphedema problem that I'm having and that's what I'm asking him...rather I should be asking about general physical therapy instead.

  • jennsmc
    jennsmc Member Posts: 15
    edited December 2012

    Sonson - Neither my MO or my RO recommended PT at first.  However, I started getting cording in my armpit and couldn't raise my arm up into the radiation cuff.  I had two sessions of PT and the cording is completely gone.  The PT office told me I needed to come in twice a week for 4-6 weeks.  I think that is way-way overkill.  All they did in my sessions was massage my arm and armpit for about 25 minutes and then send me to the gym to do arm stretches.  It definitely worked, but it wasn't anything that I couldn't do on my own so I stopped going after the second treatment.  If you aren't seeing improvement in your range of motion, then I would definitely make it clear you want PT.  In my experience, it didn't take long to see improvement and it was well worth it just to see what exercises you should be doing at home.

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited December 2012

    Sonson, I agree staying on top of possible LE is important during rads. I noticed swelling like you before I started, but when the LE actually hit, it was evident. I noticed a size change over a two day period and was referred to an LE specialist that day. I am currently wearing compression bandages until I get that arm down to its "smallest" and then will be fitted with a sleeve. I think my problem was because I have so many risk factors for LE (overweight, 23 nodes removed) and am having heavy rads to my axila because one node was very nasty. So, I guess what I can say is prepare for the worst, but you may hopefully have no problem and can get help if you do.

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited December 2012

    sonson, I forgot to add good luck tomorrow with first "zap."  I found out today that what I thought was 11 more treatments and 1 "boost" to the mx scar area, is actually 6 more treatments and 6"boosts."  My axila rejoices! I hope you and others do as well with the rads as I have so far.  My skin is so sensitive that I thought I would be in big trouble by now and it's just red and hot. The RO on my team was even joking that I am much less "high Maintenance" on his watch than back with the MO.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited December 2012

    Well, talked to the RO. No new evidence of disease showed up on the CT scan but he said he's "very concerned" that the swelling is early evidence of new disease. I won't have rads today or tomorrow but will see him on Wed. He's going to remap so the radiation hits that same spot where the swelling is. Needless to say, I'm very freaked out. I just finished five months of chemo and there might be evidence of new disease? Really? What the f**k was the chemo for?! So I hope to get more info on Wed when I actually see the RO. I was a bit shell-shocked when I talked to him on the phone. He did say early on that the clavicle area is where the cancer can spread and that my cells were aggressive. He was going to treat that area initially but decided not to. Figures. I got through chemo rather easily. And now this should be the "easy" stuff and now this.... Ugh.

  • Bookwormtoo
    Bookwormtoo Member Posts: 22
    edited December 2012

    New to the forum but have been lurking since dx of stage 1 grade2 lobular. Lumpectomy 6 weeks ago nodes negative but a few isolated cells. Oncotype came back today low risk so rads. No chemo. I'm more concerned abokut the Femara than rads. Has anyone just decided against the meds?

  • Loneskier
    Loneskier Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2012

    Just came from my first zap of 35.  Even though I have a 5:45 pm appt everyday they have told me that if there is a large gap between the previous appt and mine I can expect a call to come in early.  Turns out they actually close at 5pm but stay open for exceptions.  I am sure it will all work out at the end.  I can get there 20 minutes from work.

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