Starting chemo November 2012

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  • Tlym
    Tlym Member Posts: 115
    edited December 2012

    Hi Ladies, sorry to hear of rough side effects after tx #2. I have actually had a much easier time.

    Tx #1: I was reluctant to take meds and decided to wait until I had symptoms-bad move. Once the stomach cramps started, the only thing that helped a little was Ativan, which basically knocked me out for the whole day. Despite taking Claritin, I also had body aches, chills, and night sweats. Got a yeast infection and thrush as well.

    Tx #2: Hoping to get ahead of the symptoms, I took a zofran before bed on day 1 and continually every 12 hours (along with colace) for the next two days. I started Claritin and neupogen shots on day 2. I had NO side effects-I couldn't believe my luck! I started getting a little constipated and stopped taking zofran on night of day 3, took a senna,  and was nauseous for all of day 4 and slept the whole day away, but I did get a BM! Rebounded on day 5 and have only had a little numbing and bitterness on the tongue which is gradually subsiding. No yeast or thrush and have no aches from neupogen this round. I am day 8 now and feel great.

    Tx #3 is on 12/14. My plan is to take zofran for an extra day and hoping my SE's will be mild again. We have booked a little road trip to Carmel and Big Sur starting on day 8, so chemo better be kind to me!

    Hoping this week will be gentle on all the ladies receiving treatment and wishing away all the crap everyone else is experiencing! With every passing day, you are that much closer to the end of treatment!

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited December 2012

    Good luck with the port today Paula!!  Will be thinking about you Friday.

  • Eleni
    Eleni Member Posts: 130
    edited December 2012

    Junebug, great news about your professor and the test!

    Paula, good luck with the port.

    Day 2 after the 2nd chemo, I stayed most of the day in bed. I was feeling generally blah.

  • politicomama
    politicomama Member Posts: 187
    edited December 2012

    Well, I think I am finally starting to rebound after AC 2.  I went from one servere extreme to the other.  I tried working this morning, lasted four hours and took the afternoon off.  I did get in a small nap at the end of the baby's nap.   I was able to eat some noodle soup and toast this afternoon.  Who would have thought number 2 problems can zap you.  I had been using stool softners, then I switched to MOM yesterday.   I have never used senna..... 

    Wore the wig to get my big girl from school and got lots of compliments.  

    Paula, how you doing?

  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited December 2012

    I'm sick of the taste change. I don't have the bitter taste from thrush like last cycle but I think it's the dex affecting me. It's like my whole mouth is coated in something and my taste buds are inactive. So frustrating. I only seem to like milky or salty things. Pringles are my fave atm!



    Been up for 4 hours and ready for bed again. No steroids tomorrow so hope I don't get depressed. Maybe will get my taste buds back though. Still got mildly achy legs but nothing seems to help. Just worried it will get worse each cycle so want to find something that works. It's very tolerable at the moment.

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited December 2012

    adagio - I got itchy red bumps on the back of my neck about 10 days after chemo #2.  No idea if that's to blame, or what.  But it was sure annoying.  Lasted about a week.  So far it has not come back or anything.  (chemo #3 was one week ago.)

    michelle - I have the same mouth thing.  Feels like a furry coating no matter how much you rinse and brush, and nothing tastes good.  Blech!  Everyone says it will eventually go back to normal once chemo is over.  I sure hope so!!!

  • lesleyag
    lesleyag Member Posts: 10
    edited December 2012

    I started chemo Oct 31, and was supposed to get an infusion of Herceptin, Taxotere and Carboplatin. However I had a bad infusion reaction to both Herceptin and Taxotere so the 1 day infusion stretched to 3 days.  The Taxotere was switched to Abraxane which I seem to be able to tolerate okay. I have a year of weekly Herceptin to go so hopefully the intial reaction I had will not be repeated.

    The taste thing is most annoying to be sure! Nothing tastes good at all, can't wait for it all to be over with so things taste normal again. The hair loss does not bother me at all :-)

  • pands
    pands Member Posts: 80
    edited December 2012

    my first chemo..(nov26) took away my tastebuds in 3 days...i did have a thick coating on my tongue..(thrush??) that seemed to mostly go away with the use of peroxyl...right now my only problem seems to be heartburn..and the fact that i need a nap around dr phil time...lol...and scalp is getting itchy ..hubby keeps telling me to keep hands off head but i dont even know im doing it...best wishes for everyone to have less se this next few weeks of treament...

  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited December 2012

    It's amazing how sometimes the smallest SEs are the most bothersome. You forget what a simple pleasure tasting food is!



    By the way, just had a proper BM! Such a relief! Right, time for bed I think...



    Sorry about your reaction Lesley. Hopefully you'll be able to tolerate the Herceptin with no problems from now on.

  • powermom
    powermom Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2012

    Hey everybody.  Hope those who are having D/C problems are feeling better.  Starting countdown to my first chemo on Friday at 9:15., along with you Paula.  I think I am most nervous about the constipation and/or diahrrea.  I already have been taking Miralax for the past several days; trying to eat more fiber - steel-cut oatmeal, prunes.  I hope to have things moving before Friday!  Like you, Paula, I have bought all those supplies to try to be ready.  I also went to a LGFB class yesterday!  Cool makeup and a nice group of ladies.  The cosmetologist volunteer was very sweet and enthusiastic.  Then I was able to pick up a wig at the American Cancer Society office.  Went just a little wild and chose a very red one, not my natural color!

    Thanks to everyone here for being here!  Who could we talk to about all of this TMI stuff otherwise?

    Martha

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited December 2012

    Sorry to hear some are having tastebud issues.  Sometimes it's the small things that drive us the most crazy. 

    5Luvbugs - how you doing tonight????

    Anyone else's head tender from wearing the wig?  Think I might stay home tomorrow and let the head have a rest. 

  • Avrenim156513
    Avrenim156513 Member Posts: 47
    edited December 2012

    Ended dehydrated and at the hospital. Dreading a second chemo. I have an appointment with the oncologist tomorrow. I still have nausea but now it is manageable. Today I was able to have breakfast and lunch. I have lost 2 precious pounds in 6 days. Also I feel exhausted and my mind is not clear.



    Anyone else on FEC? Does it get any better? I do not think I can continue with chem and these side effects.

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited December 2012

    Jennie 93 - thanks for sharing about your red itchy bumps on the back of the neck. I was going to phone my MO today if they kept me awake last night - but I slept well and today it is not quite so itchy - so who knows? Congrats on getting to chemo #3 - my 2nd round has been postponed due to low white cell count - we are hoping for Thursday if blood levels are OK.

  • manksy
    manksy Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2012

    Hi all! I'm a Nov 2012 surgery/Dec 2012 chemo gal and I thought some of you might be able to answer a question for me. My BS highly recommended that I get an IV port (picc?) for chemo in my arm rather than in my chest. I had a BMX with immediate implants and he really didn't want a chest port potentially messing with my implants. Do any of you have thoughts or suggestions about the arm port? I would love to get back to running once I'm long enough post-op and if I feel strong enough while I'm on chemo. Did anyone find the arm port bothersome while exercising?

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited December 2012

    Oat bran works wonders for bowel movements and it tastes delicious!! Just cook about one third of a cup and double the amount of water in a small pot on top of the stove - takes only a few minutes. Add a dollop of honey and a little bit of cream and enjoy. Makes a great snack and definitely does the job. I wanted to avoid the constipation at all costs, so this and drinking ginger/lemon tea with honey in it worked well for me.  I saved the remainder of the oatbran in the fridge and then just heated it up in the microwave when I next used it. It is definitely worth a try. 

  • mafe
    mafe Member Posts: 34
    edited December 2012

    I started chemo on Nov. 20. On day 14, my hair started to fall. Although I knew this was coming any day now, I still panicked a little bit when I was in the shower and saw so many strands of hair in my hands and in the bath tub. Worst was when I patted my hair dry with the towel, there were just hair everywhere on the bathroom floor. My second chemo is on Dec. 6, planning on shaving my head the day after.



    Any suggestions on what toothpaste and mouthwash to use. I'm using my son's toddler toothpaste because it hurts using a regular one.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Mafe~My oncology nurse said to use Biotene products. They have dry mouth gum too.

    A good way to care for your mouth though, is to mix 1TBS salt with 1TBS baking soda in a quart of tepid water. You can brush your teeth with it, but also be sure to rinse your mouth with it at least 4 times daily.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Do you all eat breakfast before your treatment? Is that better? Or is it better to go on an empty stomach?



    Blessings

    Paula

  • politicomama
    politicomama Member Posts: 187
    edited December 2012

    Eat, eat! And then let them feed you! I was in a hurry the first time, and was starving. The little sandwich shop on the first floor is actually good:)

  • Megan2
    Megan2 Member Posts: 70
    edited December 2012

    Wow - so much has happened since I last had time to read. The best part is that as you go through the posts, so many problems are reported and then resolved, which made me feel so happy and optimistic.

    I had the longest chemo session today - not hard, just ridiculously long because of starting and stopping due to reactions from to the Taxotere. I had no issues last time, so wonder if only doing 4mg of the dex on day before and day of isn't enough... But getting through the wall of singaporean ladies in blue blazers to talk to me doctor is quite a feat:)

    I am so happy to be here - the food is amazing (even if i am not hungy) and being away from the three kids and work is like permission to lie in bed, watch tv, be waited on by my sister and mom who has just arrived, and be a cancer princess:) It's fantastic. I am going to stick around a little longer this time - no day 2 or 3 flight for this gal. I am going to max out on the excuse to lie about, and head back a bit later after some xmas shopping in the 100s of malls. And after eating as many dumplings as I can stuff in:)

    I hope all the stones and pellets (Michele, you made me think of a goat and I laughed out loud) and constipation and rings of fire and belly cramps and all the other issues like thrush and so on are behind people for a bit.

    On the wig topic, I have mentioned before I have a weirdly tiny head, so my petit wig is too big. There I was on the red eye flight, in my wig, asleep with it all askew:) I wish I could have seen the faces of people walking by!! i have no choice but to yank it back into place every couple of minutes, so the wig tape I found should make me slightly more "discrete". I will go look for a spandex headband... sounds like a great idea. But I definitely prefer the hats and soft scarf. I went out in Singapore today in the scarf and it definitely takes some getting used to the stares of pity.

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited December 2012

    In chemo class they told us to eat breakfast before chemo.  Nothing greasy or too heavy but definitely eat something. 

    I took the day off to give the scalp a break from the wig.  Megan I have the opposite problem.  I'm 5ft8in and big boned so I have a large sized head.  My wig leaves indentions on my head after wearing it all day at work.  Still moves around some.  I'm beginning to wonder if it is more trouble than it's worth.  I found several cute hats that although they scream "she's a chemo patient" they are extremely comfortable.  I will give the wig another week or so and if it continues to be this way then I think I will switch to the hats.

    where is my 5Luvbugs ???  I hope you're doing okay!!  Miss you!!!  Sending you hugs!!!!!

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited December 2012

    So, I've been reading all the wig issues/comments here and on other threads and I had also made the decision to go flat. I have a wig and prosthetic as options in case on this lovely emotional rollercoaster I can be on lately dictates otherwise. 

    I decided I don't have the time or tolerance to deal with any issues or being uncomfortable, especially during travel.  I've been going au nautural around the house and neighborhood, but this was my first foray in "public" so to speak.  I flew to a site yesterday, shaved and flat! I got the most genuine complements on how great I look with a shaved from the staff at the research site.  I do need to remember hats though, cold Seattle rain and bald heads just don't cut it...

    My 3 year old grandson saw me shaved for the first time on Tuesday and told me I looked silly, but he wanted to look like me and Poppy and get his head shaved.

    Question: Does anyone have zits?  I have always had good skin, but my face now looks like a pubescent teenager?

  • Sickofpink
    Sickofpink Member Posts: 190
    edited December 2012

    Ugh. Day 6 of Round 2 TCH.

    Thank goodnesss my onc gave me cell phone #! When i was in distress yesterday morning after a rough night, he called specialists while i was on hold to get me better meds that wouldn't affect liver like the last ones - evidently my GI.heartburn issues are not acid reflux but a direct SE of chemo that hits on day 4/5 - just when i'm starting to feel better, ha.

    Just say yes to drugs



    Tonight ill get a ride and wear blonde wig to teach novel class - then back to bed!



    But now i have a sore throat - just lozenges ? Or is it a precursor to getting sick? Suggestions?



    Hang in there Avrenim! Hope it went ok Megan! You are brave Eleni! Oh - Singapore sounds swanky! And Carmel on day 8?!

    You gals are awesome!

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited December 2012

    I too had a mild sore throat that last round, but I never got sick.  I did have thrush, but unsure if that caused the sore throat.

  • milkyway2
    milkyway2 Member Posts: 259
    edited December 2012

    I had my surgery on 8 november started chemo on 29 nov texotere first 2 days was ok 3rd day i started with body aches i was taking advil and lorezipam to sleep i m having severe diohrea after 4 day of chemo. Immodium is not working at all anybody can give any idea how to cope with 7 visists of washroom and cramps. I dont know how i m gonna tolerate 5 more cycles of texotere

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited December 2012

    Milkyway - Talk to your MO.  Immodium didn't really work for me, she said there were other meds we could try for the next round (Dec 14).  The stomach cramps were unbearable and the diarrhea only went from watery to "regular" diarrhea. It started Day 4 after chemo.  Constipation on Day 2-4.  Also, i was told that the Senna I took (Colace didn't work) for the constipation could have contributed.  Do not use toilet paper, get baby wipes instead.  I had to take pain meds for the stomach cramping since they were so bad.  I think that did help wih the diarrhea, but barely.  Finally stopped on Day 9. DO NOT get dehydrated, call your MO.

  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited December 2012

    Day 6 after chemo #2. Have had proper BMs but they're getting looser and more frequent, with the odd tummy ache. Mouth tasting gross still and am going out for my favourite meal tomorrow so hope it's not ruined. Have started taking my thrush med as I've a feeling the good old fungus might be making a reappearance.



    I've spent the last 3 days doing nothing but trying to sleep the time away. Today I did some vacuuming and was completely wiped out! Spent a long time in the bath soaking afterwards.



    What do you ladies take for any bone pains? I have it this time very mildly but the strong painkillers I was given don't touch it. I'm worried it'll get worse each cycle and I'll be in agony. Need to find the magic bullet now! Obviously can't be sure if pain is from the Tax or Neulasta, but loratadine doesn't work either.



  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited December 2012

    Anyone whose hair is falling out having problems with your scalp itching???  Wig is driving me crazy so I wore hat all day but head is still itchy.  No redness no bumps just itching. 

  • politicomama
    politicomama Member Posts: 187
    edited December 2012

    Yes, my scalp is itchy tender.  I had a #1 buzz done on Saturday and it was the right choice for me.  My sweet 15 month old rubs my head and giggles.  

    Still having tummy yuck, but it has improved today.  I was able to get the dishes done (we don't have a dishwasher :() and make dinner.  I feel like I am functioning on 60% if that makes sense.  I can do everything I need to it just takes longer and I am tired. 

    I'm not sure if I said it before but I am very thankful that I can come here and everyone gets it. 

    And I just need to toot my horn for a minute.  The today show and American girl ran a special this morning and I got two dolls for my beautiful nine year old girl for Christmas for less than the price of one.  She has been an avid little collector since she was four and I have never ever seen them put dolls on special.  My me feel a little of the Christmas spirit!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    banksy I have an arm port. My surgery was at a different location than my current MO, and MO stated they prefer the chest port. Not sure why. My surgeon stated the same as yours . . . don't want more scars on the chest than needed. I have extenders, not immediate recon, so maybe that has some to do with it. Once in a while it is bothersome when I'm carrying my purse . . . kinda knocks it.  But otherwise, probably wouldn't even know it was there now. Doesn't bother me at all when walking, so I would suspect the same with running.  Would just suggest you wear sleeves as to avoid having the skin get irritated.

    One week and counting to C-day. And of course, today I get a fever and feel like crap. Timing sucks! My last good week/end and I'm going into it sick. Also have odd little water blisters showing up on my chest, arm, shoulder, and face the past couple of days. I don't know if that is related or has anything to do with the lymph removal. Anyone experience anything like that? Called MO and they just said to see my PCP tomorrow. 

    Ladies with tummy yucks here is a tip that was shared with me. My co-workers brother is fighting a very rare, unidentifiable cancer. Long story short, he had a lot of vomiting. The triage nurse told them to place his feet in warm water - think maybe like 30 minutes, but maybe not that long - and then cover the feet.  That took care of his vomiting. Although I haven't read anyone having much of the serious issue and more just tummy ick's, it still might be worth a try.

    Anyone doing acupuncture for SE's?

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