How many of you do yoga?
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This is such a great thread! I've been practicing Bikram for about 3 years now; I find it to be the perfect balance for my long distance running. Since my bmx w/ TEs on Apr 30th, and now that I JUST had my exchange, (yay!), I'm looking forward to getting back to that hot room in the next few weeks. I was exercising regularly with my TEs, but yoga never felt right, so I avoided it completely and I miss it so much.
For those of you that are familiar with Bikram, what do you predict will be the most uncomfortable/challenging poses once I do go back? I'm totally fine with sitting out many of the poses as I return; I just feel like the breathing and sweating will be so good for me. Thanks for any input...namaste!
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I was hoping to find a thread for this here! I tried hot yoga before and didn't like it. I mostly didn't like it because the teacher was an ass and didn't really help the students. I was in good shape when I did it although not a size zero the teacher made a comment to me that i was probably having problems because of my size. I was a fit size ten at the time! I stopped going. Well then cancer comes along, see my sig line for all my surgeries. I've gained so much weight during this time. Before my last surgery I had a few months to get back with my trainer. I'm not going to be able to get back with him for awhile. I had to have complete revision in July. It was like having a BMX all over again. I was done with fills 3 weeks ago and ready to get back to some exercise. Well my TE ruptured a few days ago. MY PS is going to keep filling up my TE until my surgery (Oct 16th - hoping to get an earlier date). I forgot to ask her when I saw her a couple days ago if hot yoga would be a good idea. My girlfriend has been going to a class for the past month and just raves about it. The teachers really sound like they are very helpful and not elitist like my last experience. I'm flexible and my trainer incorporated lots of yoga moves in my workout. I have had LE back in the beginning of the year. It was mild.
Does it sound like a good idea to get back into this? I will call my doctor office later. Just wondering if anyone here had similar issues as me and went through with it.
Michelle
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I've recently returned to regular yoga practice with at least one studio class per week. I have found it helpful for my problems with chronic low back pain (have arthritis and some disc problems). As a bonus I think it may be helping my lymphedema as well as the bit of tightness I have from the lat flap reconstruction. The mental benefits are huge as well.
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Love, love, love yoga, it has brought such a calm and serenity to my life.I'm pretty athletic and started yoga about 4 months before my bc treatment .( free tram flap) I now do it up to 4 to 5 times a week.
I even set up a small studio area in my master bedroom, when I can't get to the gym.
OMMMMMMMMMMMMM
I still want to run away from home and emerged myself in a yoga retreat, maybe in a faraway land to become certified
Just breathe! Cobra flow downward dog!
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I started doing yoga in 1992, during chemo. I found it helped relax me after infusions.
I took yoga back up for a few months in 2007. Shortly after I was diagnosed with cancer again in 2008 I used restorative yoga to help me recover from BMX and tram flap surgery. Since then I have incorporated yoga into my life with a weekly class. I cannot do most inversions or backbends, but I adapt the classes I take, and find hatha vinyasa or anusara classes the most beneficial.
I also practice other forms of exercise, including pilates, gyrotonics, and trx.
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Is here anybody on here who has done yoga with a TE, and then had a DIEP flap done? Did it make a difference as far as flexibility in the axilla and shoulder after TE was gone? I have good range of motion, but have difficulty to fully extend the arm on the TE side over my head because of tightness in the axilla/TE area, and I can feel the TE pulling and moving a little when I stretch the arm. I also had rads earlier this year, and had been doing exercises to stretch and loosen up the area. Will it get better after the TE is gone?
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Hi everyone,
I had a double mastectomy 11/6/12. I practiced Ashtanga yoga for 4 yrs before that 1-3 times/wk plus I am a runner too. I am in my 40s and chose no reconstruction as I did not like the idea of implant going under my pectoral muscle. I am now 11 days postop and my drains are out since Monday. My surgeon told me to wait at least 3 wks before running but I tried short intervals mixed with walking (total of 3-4 miles) and I feel fine. She also told me to hold off any weight bearing on my arms until my range of motion is full and comfortable, which it almost is now on my right side, but my left feels tighter and more painful. Today, i did for the first time since surgery, a few modified sun salutations (no chaturangas yet) and I did parts of the standing sequence. I only did a few short, modified downward dogs. I did most of the standing sequence modifying as I went along and I feel great. I feel encouraged to keep doing short modified segments of my former 1 hr+ practice gradually increasing as tolerated and listening to my body. -
Joanna,
Be very careful with the yoga. Lymphedema is always a risk, for life. I can do downward dog, but I have to get out of it quickly, I can't hang out in it. If I do too much weigh bearhing arm poses, my LE arm starts swelling.
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Hi Joanna - re the running, I did the same thing. I had tram flap reconstruction (left breast) in July and 4 weeks later while on vacation I started throwing in a few (slow) running intervals into my walks. I would make them very short intervals because I was afraid of interfering with the reconstruction so thinking back I should have been more patient and given myself more time, but I had NO ILL EFFECTS and now am back pretty much to my full workout routines - just a few yoga poses I can't get into yet, mainly anything to do with back extensions, and there are some ab exercises I can't do.
We seem to get impatient with ourselves . . .be sure to really listen to your body. I was rarin' to go before my doctor was ready to let me, and I would sneak in a few things just to "test" my body. Luckily, everything healed - and is continuing to heal - just fine, but be careful.
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I have been easing back into the hot yoga again. I had te's put in in October. I waited about 3 weeks to go back, then stayed out of cobra, etc. I had to come down to the mat once from being a little woozy. I got another fill on Friday. I got the giggles going into flying lotus. I was wondering if I could rest my whole body on the te's and not use any strength. Kinda like my own little supports : D
I just got scheduled for exchange in the middle of December, so I guess the holidays will need to be yoga free. I am looking forward to starting the new year being able to get back to my practice.
In last night's class there was a young guy who came in limping on a cane. He was unable to do quite a few of the poses, but sat meditating with such grace and peace. It was quite inspiring.
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It is great that forums like this exist for us to exchange experiences and learn from one another. Doctors, while well intentioned, not always have first hand knowledge of yoga and exercise and it's healing power and err on the side of caution when recommending return to activities. Most athletes and yogis know their bodies enough to listen and not push beyond the limits.
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Joanna, I see that you did ashtanga! I just did my first class yesterday. OUCH!! The instructor is very hands on, which is great. Its nice to set up a solid base so I am not learning bad habits. But eeessshhh! Lots of things sore today! I consider myself to be fairly fit and my legs were shaking like jello. He even made a comment to the class after walking by me, "And if your muscles start shaking know you are exploring your edge".
Well, call me Christoper Columbus. Today, I can barely walk! I really enjoyed it though. It is so different than the fast rigorous pace of hot yoga. I loved the chanting, although I have clue what they were saying. -
Hi Geewhiz,
I am glad you enjoyed ashtanga. I had tried different kinds of yoga in the past including bikram but once i tried ashtanga i was hooked. It has been 4 years now. I credit ashtanga with making my recovery a relatively smooth process so far. I am not doing the full primary yet, but i am up to about 45-50 min. Today i willgive it another shot and see if i can do the whole sequence. I am back to being able to do downward facing dog but i still have some pulling in the armpit and the sides of my ribs are sore afterwards, which is weird. You can find the words and translation of the ashtanga chant on many ashtanga sites. It is sort of a prayer to Patanjali, the guru who started ashtanga. -
Joanna, I am thinking we are the same age ...1966? I didnt realize you JUST had your mx. Wow girl. You are doing great to be back at it so soon.
I had mine 3 years ago and have been battling reconstructions. I still cannot chaturanga. Not sure if its lack of strength or skill. I guess it just takes practice. I found a bunch of ashtanga on youtube. You can even find whole classes to flow along with! I went to another ashtanga tonight. I need a stickier mat. I am tall, and I need a really wide stance for many of the poses but my feet were sliding a bit tonight. Scary when you are new.
I was thinking of making up a series of asanas friendly for post surgery. Nothing to strain arms, chest, shoulders. I have implants put in Dec 13. hopefully, that is my final surgery EVER!! But, I was miserable not doing anything last time. I need to stay out of the hot room several weeks, but perhaps I can do some select and modified poses.
My husband is trying to get me to calendar a marathon next November. The Rock and Roll Marathon in Savannah. I am not a distance runner at all. But perhaps it might be a goal to shoot for. I bought a book that talks about the run- walk method, and I did build miles with that previously, thought nothing remotely close ro a marathon! -
Oh...with the ribs - any axillary nodes removed, or drains placed there? Might explain the soreness!
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Hi Geewhiz,
We are the same age. Thanks for replying. I had sentinel nodes removed on both sides since my cancer was bilateral, and i did have drains in for a week. They were the worst part of the whole experience. The pulling i read is also from the node removal. I still have swelling around my ribs. I wasn't able to do the full primary. I petered out after the bhujapidasana and called it a day. Chaturangas are hard and took me at least a hundred sessions to do comfortably. But i can do them now and they helped relieve the pulling. I only do 3 of each sun salutations instead of 5, but after the last one the pulling was gone. The vinyasas between the poses in the seated sequence are killing me. But i thing they also helped with the pulling because it is almost gone. -
I hear ya on the drains. Yowee. They were miserable to deal with, and have removed. I am sure I will have them after surgery next week. Ugh. At my bmx, I about fell off the table as they were yanking out one on the cancer side. That area has remained tight. I do half moon several times a day to lengthen the area.
Do you do a straight leg jump through, or a crossed? I see both being taught. I would like to get the mechanics down. -
Namaste ladies! This topic fell off my favorites. Good to be back.
I am missing yoga due to exercise restriction from ooph a week ago. Will be released just in time for Christmas vacation in Florida, visiting my mom. Thinking of teaching her chair yoga. Anyone have a recommendation for a good DVD?
geewhiz, good luck next week! There are several people on the "Let's Post our Daily Exercise" who are doing the C25K program, which stands for couch to 5K. I'm not a runner but thought I'd pass it along as a good way to work up to running.
p.s. re: drains, make sure they open the bulb cap to release the suction before they pull it out. Soooo much easier and way less painful!
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Geewhiz, as to your jumpthrough question, I still do the crosslegged, which is less advanced than the straight leg. You need to have really stretched hamstrings, strong abs, shoulders, chest, and lower back. And wrists too as your shoulders come forward of your wrists when your hips are up before you fly the legs through. You will also need to feel your balance point so you jump your hips high enough without tipping forward before you cross your legs underneath. It takes years of practice to master the mechanics of the jump through. So start with the crosslegged version and practice. David Swenson, who studied with Sri K Pattabhi Jois, has a great manual and DVDs in which he explains the mechanics and gives modifications. Also, check out Kino Mac gregor, also certified by Pattabhi Jois. Kino has great tutorials on youtube. she has a couple of good ones on jump through as well as jump back. But patience is the key. Practice, and all is coming! Good luck with your surgery. Also, check with your doctor if these transitions are OK with implants.
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After I finished all treatment I started back with private yoga classes once a week, doing very gentle, restorative yoga. I have the weekly class and do an hour at home most days. It really helps me with my anxiety, it calms me and makes me feel restored and positive.
I've also just started swimming again and can only manage 300m so far, but it feels good. I find it is like a moving meditation, just focusing on the breath, lovely!
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I used to practice yoga with a teacher that I really liked. She went to a retreat for a month and came back packed her bags and moved to New Mexico to live a more spiritual life. I miss her and the class. I keep thinking I need to return to yoga. I know it makes me feel better. I used to practice at home, but I have moved and do not have the space where I am now. I have looked around and the yoga studios near me are very expensive! Also, I am kinda scared to start practicing because I am not sure which poses to do and which ones to avoid. I have not been dx w/ lymphedema, but I think that I teeter right on the edge. I don't want to do anything that would push me over the edge. I have had cording that resolved and I get slight swelling/puffiness at the bra band on mx side.
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FLWarrior, I started doing yoga after a "yoga for BC survivors" session put on by Breast Cancer Recovery in Madison. They were very respectful of people's physical limitations. It got me hooked on yoga. Do you have a resource like that near you? Restorative yoga is another good place to start. It's been two years now and I'm strong enough to do down dogs and plank poses but I started very slowly and built up. Good luck and Namaste!
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Thanks badger. Is Breast Cancer Recovery an organization? I am not familiar with it. I'll check around to see if I can find anything similar. The only bc survivor class I have heard of here occurs in the middle of the afternoon when I am at work. Do you still go there, or to a studio or practice in your home? That is great that you have worked up to down dogs and planks!
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hi FLWarrior, yes Breast Cancer Recovery is an organization. http://www.bcrecovery.org/
They mostly run retreats for women with metastatic BC but offer other activities from time to time. With a grant from Komen of South Central WI, they brought in a yoga teacher from NYC - Tari Prinster. Here's her website (yoga for cancer). http://y4c.com/ It was on a Saturday so I could attend, it was an hour's drive from my home here in Podunk. It was GREAT. Changed my life. We ended with Warrior III in a big circle, supporting one another as we tipped forward into the pose. I will never ever forget that moment.
At that time, there were no yoga classes in the area so I bought a DVD called "Yoga for Breast Cancer: From Surviving to Thriving" and learned my way around in the privacy of my own home. Here's their website. http://www.yogaforcancer.com/
That fall, the wellness program at work offered an 8-week lunchtime yoga series for $25 so I signed up. The instructor came to us, and we had class in an empty conference room. They offered it twice more then had to stop because they needed the space. There was a different teacher each session and I learned a lot from those three yogis. Sunflowers & Moonflowers!
Near work is a gorgeous fitness club with a brand-new yoga studio but couldn't afford the $500 a year membership. So I bought a couple of Rodney Yee DVD's and practiced at home but that next spring, two new opportunities arose. One was a 6-week evening class at a local church that was only $30 for the series. The other was an 8-week evening class at the local senior center. Since I'm over 50, I got a discount to $60 for the series woo hoo! Both classes were taught by certified yoga teachers and they were both great. They offer these classes a few times a year and I sign up for them.
I do a home practice and have a basic routine and add things as I feel in the moment. But I still sign up for class whenever I can because I love the feeling of the group movement & meditation. And I can always learn something new!
Namaste!
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Hi badger. Thank you for taking the time to share all of the great information. It is encouraging. I will look at the links and ask Santa for the DVD "Yoga for Breast Cancer: From Surviving to Thriving".
I start a new job on the 17th, so I am off next week. I am planning to go to the cancer pt/survivor, restorative, (free) mid-day class on Monday and Friday next week. I hope to get some guidance and maybe they will know of some other resources for me that are offered after work hours or on weekends...that are affordable. The studio has regular classes, but they are 16.00 a class and 1/2 hour drive from my house. That is out of my budget for sure.
Namaste
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I am signed up for my first try at yoga. It's a community class in restorative yoga. It starts in January. I'm hoping this will lead to more. There are a few yoga studios in my town but I have no idea what is the best fit for me.
I am hoping that yoga, along with mindfull meditation, will help me move forward after BC and not to keep dwelling on the what ifs in life.
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I really need to join a yoga class. I've been doing a home practice on My Yoga Online, but I have problems staying disciplined, like not finishing the video. A yogi has to be disciplined to get the full benefits from a yoga practice.
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FLWarrior, congrats on starting a new job and having a free week to yourself, enjoy class!
jwilco, for me a bonus of yoga & meditation is mindfulness-based stress reduction (MBSR). It's an actual science and you can learn more by googling the term. In my hippie days we called it "Be Here Now" but these days it's MBSR. At the risk of sounding flip, I will share a quote from a BCO sister: "Treat every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away." LOL!
nibbana, I love the slow start (wake up the chakras) and end (shavasana) to my routine.
Shavasana is the "pay off" when you lay there and feel energy coursing through your body.
If you have 20 minutes, I recommend the AM portion of Rodney Yee's AM/PM yoga.
You can find it other places but here's a link from Amazon so you can see it.
http://www.amazon.com/A-M-P-M-Yoga-Rodney-Yee/dp/B00007JME6
I've done the PM portion with Patricia Walden and that's good too.
Namaste!
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Ladies- it is so nice to see this thread here!
As an avid yogi, I can honestly say my practice changed my recovery significantly, for the better, from my bc experience. I was lucky enough to have two teachers prior to my diagnosis who embraced me during treatment, who alternated during my eight treatments and made sure one of them was always there for part of my chemo, doing guided meditation and breathing with me, to help with anxiety. They made me realize your practice is not in the poses, but accepting where you are in your life and adapting your practice to meet yourself there. Once I recovered for about a month, I went back to my beloved hot yoga class with my bald head and I have never looked back. I am doing poses my BS and PS told me I would never do again. I have never been so physically strong in my life. It's truly been a lifesaver for me. I practice an average of 5 days a week, 3 in classes and 2 at home. I like Yogaglo.com, which has great classes for all levels!
Good for all of you ladies for incorporating yoga! Namaste! If
i can ever answer any questions, please don't hesitate to ask!
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Missswim, I have heard awesome things about yogaglo. I logged on awhile ago. They have lots of variety! Thanks for mentioning it, I will look again.
Hot yoga is one of those things that just gets into your blood I think. It either becomes part of you, or it doesnt.
With the lymphedema risk question, well...I had major cording too. After an annoying surgerry where I was cut in the axillary region, I got diagnosed with mild LE. I personally, have found that my body has responded quite favorably to the yoga. My range of motion is better, no swelling etc. I am thin, so there is not major strain on my joints etc. i listen to my body though...if your arms, trunk, shoulders...or anything feel stressed- well, listen to the wisdom of your body.
JoAnn, thanks for the jumpthrough advice. i cant wait to log off here and hit youtube. one of my instructors is a big ashtanga fan. He places lots of emphasis on the strength in control. Slow movements to find that point of balance you mention. It is frustrating to me sometimes. I want to be able to jump through NOW. I mean, it looks easy enough. *cough* Right now I am convinced either my arms are too short or my butt is too saggy, lol. My crossed ankles seem to hit a major roadblock.
I cant scroll back for some reason to see who wrote about swimming as meditation, but that is SO beautiful to me. I take a kickbox class, and there is a girl in there who makes it gorgeous. So unbelieveably fluid. She is in her own little world and is so much fun to watch. I asked her one day if she was a dancer. She laughed and said no but she believed that all of our bodies had a natural rhythm, and she had finally learned to tap into hers. Loved that! I think perhaps you found your rhythm in that pool!
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