Holy-Moly -- Femara/Letrozole costs a fortune!

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Yesterday I saw my oncologist for first time since my mastectomy (surgery Nov 6). I am 57 and thrilled with how well I feel, considering I am only 3 week post surgery. Great visit -- all happy, happy. She prescribed Femara (thinks it is more effective and WAY less side effects than Tamoxofin). So, I trotted to the pharmacy with my prescription for the first 90 days.

OMG!!!

The pharmascist asked if I wanted 'generic" (Letrozole) and I said "Sure -- let's save some cash."

I couldn't even hear what he said when he told me the price -- it was over $1000 for a 90-day prescription! I heard just the beginning... "One Thousand..." and FREAKED.

"Wait, wait ... I have the upgraded Sam's Club Membership -- with discounted prescriptions..." I fumbled for my card.

That took it down to $626 for 90 days.

He started explaining how Femara/Letrozole have way fewer side-effects than (CHEAP!) Tamoxofin-- and I choked out a laugh -- I asked him if experiencing a "heart-attack" (at hearing the price) could be considered a "side effect"!

HOLY-MOLY.

Why the heck didn't I choose health care with drug coverage 30 years ago?

So -- I am looking for help here!

Anyone know of programs or other resources to help with this staggering cost? Or a cheaper way to buy this stuff?

I sold my last business in the fall of 2010, spending the rest of 2010 and 2011 going back to college and caretaking my father, who eventually died of cancer in October. Then came the funeral arangements and helping my 83-year-old-breast-cancer-survivor-Mom adjust to being a widow, and finding herself anew after 61 years of marriage...

Then came my own diagnosis in May (2012), and a summer of several biopsies, a lumpectomy, then 3 weeks ago, my double mastectomy and stage 1 DIEP recon. 

I haven't had an income for the last 2 years, and now my savings are near gone from co-pays and deductibles, with January (meaning all new deductibles) just around the corner. I live on a ranch in the middle of nowhere, and any available jobs around here pay next to nothing... if I can even find one.

Five years of hormone therapy (plus all this travel for treatment, and two more surgeries coming) is going to cost a small fortune... despite what I thought was really good BCBS coverage.

My body is extremely sensitive to drugs (hives, rashes, hallicunations, jittery nerves) even from some 'benign' stuff like Benedryl (!) ... so going with Femara/Letrozole vs Tamoxofin is no doubt the best choice.

I am 100% ER and 100% PR positive, so skipping hormone treatment would be nuts.

Anyway, any ideas/suggestions to help offset these costs would sure be appreciated.

Thanks!

Linda

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  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited November 2012

    Linda...i know Femara was very costly...i was on it

    But the generic shouldn't be that high......?????????

    Good Luck.......

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2012

    Usually the choice is not between Tamoxifen and Femara - Tamoxifen is normally prescribed to pre-menopausal, Femara to post-menopausal.  The other two aromatase inhibitors are Arimidex and Aromasin.  You might want to check on the cost of those two drugs as they are more interchangeable with Femara.  You might also check the websites for the manufacturers to see if they have any programs that can help offset the cost.  Have you thought about purchasing a separate drug coverage plan?  It might be cheaper in the long run.  Here are a couple of links that explain the differences in hormonal therapy:

    http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/hormonal/serms

    http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/hormonal/aromatase_inhibitors

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited November 2012

    Hi Linda,

    The main Breastcancer.org site has a section on Paying for Your Care that features a page on Tips to Lower Medicine Costs -- with info on Patient Assistance Programs that can help!

    Hope this helps!

    --The Mods

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2012

    Check Costco.... they have far lower prices than this for the generic. No membership needed for RX.

    *susan*

  • Linda-Ranching-in-the-mTns
    Linda-Ranching-in-the-mTns Member Posts: 319
    edited November 2012

    Thanks for the info -- I have been up and down on this all day... got nothing else accomplished.

    Since I posted this morning, I called my oncologist's office -- and they said I probably qualify for FREE meds direct from the manufacturer, based on my (lack of) income -- then they emailed: "Sorry that free program no longer exists, but you can apply to RX Outreach for $30 for 90 days supply (Letrozole)..." and they emailed me a form.

    Yay. right?

    But I need to know my income for last year -- so I spent 2 hours searching (in vain) for my tax forms from 2011. I finally called my accountant and he reminded me that we didn't file because my income was below $8000. This means I now have nothing to prove that I made less than $8000 in 2011 -- so I need to recreate my 2011 income (it is all schedule C self-imployed). This way way way more work than I am up for right now. He said he can create the form (still not file with the IRS -- but it will work for this purpose). OH how I wish we had just completed the dummy form last March when all that paperwork was organized and laid out on my dining room table! Little value in hindsight.

    Depressed, I came back here and went to the site Shiela provided -- it shows 90  days of Letrozole selling at Sams for $46.60 "with coupon" (goodrx.com) -- so I called Sams Club back and said -- "Hey -- what about this coupon -- and I think that the price in your computer must have been entered too high in error... how can a coupon take the price from $626 to $46.60?"

    Sams told me that I would have had to bring the coupon in, and they won't do it in retrospect... but that they told me they would be willing to price-match Walgreens or some other local competitor (not an online company). So I called Walgreens in Santa Fe -- and they want $680 for 90 days of Letrozole!

    Then (after seeing Susan's post above) I called Costco (in Albuquerque, because there isn't one in Santa Fe) and Costco said 44 tablets (the half-precsciption I paid $301.00 for at Sams because I couldn't afford the full 90 days) would only be $12.26 (or about $25 for a 90-day supply)!!! 

    This is CRAZINESS.

    So I called Sams Club in Santa Fe back, and they won't match Costco's price because I bought at Sams in Santa Fe, and Albuquerque is 45 minutes away -- a different city. Sams will "only match Santa Fe competitors." The pharmacy manager said I can call corporate Walmart to see what they might do for me, but the $626 for 90 days is the (discounted) price in her computer, and unless I can find a Santa Fe competitor with a lower price, I am out of luck getting a refund. 

    Who has the strength to do all this?

    I feel incredibly ripped off. How can there possibly be this HUGE a discrepancy between prices? There must be INCREDIBLE PROFIT being made off this wild price variation... and it is us (the sick and physically exhausted) who pay the outrageous price. 

    Moderators -- I went to your mentioned resource earlier -- thanks... I spoke on phone to the folks at Partnership for Prescription Assistance much earlier today. They are sending me some snail mail info and gave me some phone numbers... MORE research. MORE hope... more potential, but more work and more energy/time.

    It's not that I don't appreciate the leads, because I can't afford to not follow up and ease this financial burden, and I am thankful for whatever help I can get. But frankly, I am exhausted. I only have so much energy and all this shopping and phoning and arguing price is teriffically draining. 

    What I need at this point is an advocate... perhaps a job I will create once I am well, to help others. Because this is just 'too much'. 

    I must say that this is all WAY more (probably intentionally) confusing than it seems it should be -- especially for people in our situation. It seems to me that this is all just more insurance/medical industry GAME that plays unnecessary ping-pong with patients who are too ill and/or distracted to fight them properly. The hospitals/doctors/drug companies over-charge because the insurance companies expect to negotiate lower prices... so the original price is over-inflated.

    "Let the buyer beware".

    Like my hospital bill for $24,000 -- BCBS says "Nope, you only get $17,000." And the hospital says OK. So why did they bill $7000 extra to begin with? And what about patients without BSBC to lobby for them... why should they pay $7000 more ... or why should (potentially) their (different) insurance company be able to negotiate an even lower price than I paid? It is NUTS... and I am beginning to feel very very screwed.

    And now the wildly varying prescription prices. 

    This means that I will spend the rest of my day attempting to recreate 2011 finances so I can fill out the Rx Outreach form, so that at least in the future I won't be so grossly overcharged (if I qualify). Now I don'[t trust that Costco's price will be tomorrow what it was today, because the Sams pharmacy manger said she was going to call them and have them double check THEIR price! Sounds a lot like 'price-fixing' to me.

    Maybe tomorrow I will have the strength to call every pharmacy in Santa Fe until I can find a reasonably priced Letrozole prescription and then try again to fight for a refund of the over-charge from Sams -- but I am 7 hours round trip from the Sams, and have to at some point cut my losses on this energy expenditure.

    Man -- is this how this is supposed to work? This makes me ANGRY. And very very tired. 

  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited November 2012

    I really sympathise with most of you ladies. I have read similar posts to yours on these boards and am always amazed at how you can afford your drugs/treatments and how conjure up the energy and will to deal with all the red tape and form filling etc. Lately i can't even be bothered to get dressed! Reading stories like this makes be even more thankful for the UK's NHS.



    I hope you manage to sort it out soon.

  • hbcheryl
    hbcheryl Member Posts: 5,113
    edited November 2012

    Linda - Costco has an online pharmacy if you don't live close to one so you could order from them BUT if you want to pick up from them call ahead because they sometimes run low, when I was first diagnosed there was no generic for Femara and that is when they had a program with a coupon where we could get it and if I remember it was $30 a month but as soon as generic became available that program ended, fyi if you take any medication that has a generic Costco has the best price and always ask your doc for a 90 day script then you don't have to keep running back every month.  Also if you go online to the Costco website they have all the drugs listed and the price, Letrozole has always been in the $40-$50 for a 3 month supply range.

  • Linda-Ranching-in-the-mTns
    Linda-Ranching-in-the-mTns Member Posts: 319
    edited November 2012

    Thanks a bunch for all the suggestions. I know that I will work this out -- but yesterday I got SO ANGRY at what appears to be blatant and horrendous price-gouging by companies (which I had always previously thougt kindly of). I was so convinced that my 'upgraded membership' for discount pharmacy at Sam's Club was a great deal... and thought myself 'cagey' for getting my (up-until-recent-cancer) extremely occasional pharmaseutical needs filled there.

    The last couple of days have been a harsh awakening to one of the huge flaws in a capitalist system.

    Dog eat dog. Buyer beware.

    After anger came depression... that 'reputable' companies would grab so much outrageous profit -- by squeezing the sick and dying -- counting on thier desperation and fogginess of mind -- to not fight back.

    Well, today I am feeling pragmatic. I will get the drugs I need and I will never assume anybody (especially any  company) has my best solutions in mind -- they are out to squeeze whatever they can out of me.

    Man -- I hate to have yet another item to add to my cynicism list ... 

    But besides pragmatic... I am also back to angry. I can normally be a pit-bull when needed... don't know that I have the resources/energy to tackle this immediately -- but I can at least write a letter to the editor of the Santa Fe newspaper, exposing the disparity between prices of Letrozole in Santa Fe ($625 to $1300) vs the price 45 minutes away in Albuquerque -- which they told me yesterday on the phone was $25.

    I also wrote to the "Patient Advocate" in my oncologist's office -- and told her about the disparity.

    However -- as hbcheryl suggested, I went to Costco.com -- and they don't show letrozole as an item -- just Femara at $1,593.21 for a 90-day supply.

    I am not a Costco member, but downloaded all the forms -- perhaps that price you mentioned is only for members... but perhaps this disparity of pricing is some bad news... that the price has just recently gone way up and some pharmacies just haven't become aware of the supplier's price increase... (?)

    Ping - Pong. Just like so many aspects of cancer, I feel strong one minute and just plain disgusted/tired the next.

    Time to shut down again for a while. Take a walk in the beautiful outdoors.

    Linda

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited November 2012

    Linda - if there's a health reporter at a local TV station, you may want to contact them as well.  Swipe the cancer card for all it's worth on this one.  Between caring for your parents and your own dx, you're exactly the kind of sympathetic person that they look for to highlight a story like this - you're not a deadbeat looking for a handout, but a hard working caring person who is just asking to be treated fairly at a time when she's battling for her very life.  I bet one simple 3-minute story on the local news will have Sam's Club rushing to sell you the meds at the cheaper price, and refund the excess you paid the first time, all while saying that it's all a terrible misunderstanding and OF COURSE that's not their policy.  After all, it's bad business to look like you go around bullying brave b/c survivors.

    You write well and seem organized, so my guess is that you'll make a good interview subject.  Put together your chronology of your conversations and exactly what happened so it's clear in your mind.  Contact the health reporter and offer to send him/her your summary, along with a brief explanation of why the meds are so vital to your fight against b/c.  Tell them all you want is for the Sam's Club near you to honor the price charged by the Sam's Club 45 minutes away and to refund the exorbitant excess you paid for the first prescription fill.  There's a good chance it'll get picked up by your local station and they'll run with it. 

    If you're comfortable with going public about this, you'd be doing a service not only for yourself, but for other b/c patients out there who are going through the same ping pong battle but who are too old, sick or otherwise are unable to fight for themselves.   

    Can you tell I did media for years?? Tongue Out

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2012

    Linda,

    Sam's Club is Walmart... I refuse to buy a thing from them. Costco pays a living wage, has full health benefits for any employee over 25 hrs a week, and they don't reduce hours to force their employees to buy their own health insurance. Costco has standards that surpass most for-profit companies. The 90 day supply is always the most cost-effective. If you can create a standing order with Costco so that it is mailed to you every 90 days, I think you would find that your stress level would be reduced dramatically.

    This is part of my normal. I price drugs before buying. Since I am in MA, I am required to have RX insurance. I have never used it since Costco's prices are much less than the required co-pay when I purchase through my insurance plan. It is nice to know that I have that coverage in case I am prescribed a named drug.

    Good luck.

    *susan*

  • hbcheryl
    hbcheryl Member Posts: 5,113
    edited December 2012

    Linda do you have health insurance?  I have Health Net with Rx coverage and Letrozole is $15.00 for 30 days at Walgreens at least that is so in California I wouldn't see why it would be different for you in NM

  • Ellen1955
    Ellen1955 Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2013

    I don't know if you have discovered it by now, but Sam's Club has Letrozole for $11.87 (30 days) on its Extra Value Drug List.  It requires Plus membership ($100/yr instead of the $35 I was paying) and cash purchase with no insurance involvement (What a TREAT to pay cash of only $11.87 instead of paying $250 myself, with my insurance paying $250 or so). 

    I could not believe it because I'd been getting my prescriptions filled at Walgreens, and I'd called everywhere including Costco and everywhere, it was $500 +/-.   Once I purchased the letrozole at Sam's for $11.87....well then I believed it.  

    Then one night I needed a refill and I was right by Walmart. So I went in and asked if I could get the rx there at the Sam's price on the value list.  They said they would transfer the prescription to there at Walmart, and then I got it there for the Sam's value list price.  This was nice too, b/c Walmart is open longer and there I can pick up the prescription at the drive thru.

    Here's the list, and letrozole is at the bottom of page 4:

    http://scene7.samsclub.com/is/content/samsclub/drugs-listpdf

  • Cif
    Cif Member Posts: 12
    edited August 2016

    I lost the energy to fight the system and figure things out in the middle of the one year of chemo, but someone gave me this link I have not read yet www.drugs.com/pro/femara.html that she said what I'm now doing by cutting 2.5mg femara in half when I'm able to get any is better than what I used to do skip every other month of taking the drug (which was nice because all the pain and issues would go away by the end of the month and I could start to focus on a task to declutter from time when on it). I hope your news paper runs with the article about drug profits preying on the sick and stealing energy and "life time" from them (yes, they also provide the drug that adds time, I realize this but moral limits on profit - but maybe $ are funding a cure, maybe, I hope).

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited August 2016

    If you are no Facebook, you could copy your above post and write it on their timeline for all to see, or you could write it on yours (or both), and tag them on the post (and make it a public post) and ask others to share. That can often get their attention.

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited August 2016

    This was a 2013 post that was "revived."

    Here is a list that has 9 or 10 pharmacies who carry Letrazole for $10 to around $20 dollars a month.


    http://www.goodrx.com/femara


  • cliff
    cliff Member Posts: 290
    edited February 2017

    ask your cancer doctor, mine helped me find a way to reduce the cost of my exgiva from $2500.00 per month copay to a lot less.

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