Triple Negative - QUESTION
I would like to know if anyone else had a silver/mercury filling replaced recently before diagnosis of triple negative. I had 1 filling replaced a year before I was diagnosed and have been reading up on effects of mercury poisioning. I have been going crazy trying to figure out what caused my breast cancer as I am 40 with no history, my BRCA mutation gene is negative, never smoked, eat well, exercise. Other than perhaps stress, this is the only thing I can link it to and wondering if anyone else can too? Thanks!
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Deniset717,
You may never know what, if anything, caused your breast cancer. I had all my old fillings replaced, as did my three sisters, but only I got sick, and that was years later. One mercury amalgam filling won't take the blame for this. I had no family history of breast cancer either. Sometimes, shit just happens and you are the one in eight who gets breast cancer with no warning. There is no obvious link between anything and breast cancer unless you have a family history. The thing to do is to do your research and get the right treatment and look forward because you CAN live beyond this. That should be your focus. Looking inward to blame yourself is not productive because you are not to blame. Not one of us asked for this, and you did not either.
Good luck to you. Get out there and kick some butt on this thing. I am just now four years out and life is good.
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Thank you very much and I am very pleased to hear that you are 4 years now. I start chemo this Wednesday. Can I ask, do you know if you had "lymphvacscular" invasion on your pathology report? Thanks!!!
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Deniset717
I don't know that term, but I lost four of fourteen axillary lymph nodes taken. I also lost my sentinel node, or the dissection of the axillary nodes would never have happened.
I also have had a bit of lymphedema after. But I was told that would be 50/50 after taking so many lymph nodes. When I noticed it, I got on it, as anyone should. I was told I didn't get there quite fast enough. It was not reversible. But I got checked out and wrapped up and taught what to do. I've worn my sleeve for a few years while going about my business. And the swelling has actually disappeared. I wear my sleeve at work and at home and everytime on a plane, and nothing else is necessary just now. If it isn't an issue that is great in my mind. I still see my lymphedema therapist twice a year for measurements and such, but I don't need to do exercizes every day to keep the swelling down.
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I had lymphovascular invasion - it is to be expected, my BS said, if nodes are involved - and I did have micromets in one node....
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Hi Deniset717,
I was diagnosed at 39 with TNBC. No family history, BRCA neg, no smoking, mostly healthy diet, etc. No dental filling replacements, no root canals.
Don't go crazy asking why. Bottom line is, nobody knows exactly why (yet). I've done a lot of reading and research since I was diagnosed, and have never found any legitimate evidence that dental issues or stress have any causal relationship to breast cancer, but if you have, can you please share your source?
ETA - I forgot to add, I did have LVI (lymphovascular invasion) and 9 nodes removed (suspicious looking, matted and tangled but considered negative).
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Deniset717,
Hope the first chemo visit went well. It is the most frightening by far because everything is unknown. Most people handle chemo fairly well. Not to say any of us would recommend it for a good time, but it's an investment in your future, literally.
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DeniseT717:
First and foremost, remember that you can survive TNBC. I've come across a 29 year survivor on here, and another lady who is at 27 years and her daughter is at 8 years.
When I found out that the bc was TNBC, I also wanted to hear from others on what they thought had caused it. I was hoping for a common theme amongst us. I'm very similar to you and some others that have posted here; no family history of it, weight regarded as normal, etc. I was 43 at DX, and all family members are healthy and my great grandma lived to be 91 -- and that is considered a very long life expectancy in those days!
I was suspicious of everything after my TNBC diagnosis. I have considered having my old silver filings replaced. I had some silver fillings replaced over 20 years ago. I have only 2 small ones left, but I can't remember why the dentist decided to leave them.
Here is a very interesting link regarding Cancer Genetics. http://www.wdv.com/Cancer/Research/index.html
To understand it fully, click inside each icon to see what examples it gives. These researchers believe it takes 5-10 different instances to develop a cancer cell line, so any one thing shouldn't do it, but a nubmer of things over time, according to this. You can read it and see what you think. I believe you can click into each area 2 times to keep extracting more info.
Have you thought about cleaning chemicals? I used to clean like crazy, and that is absorbed through the skin. So I thought of that, since my bc was on the right, and I am right handed. To be safe, I switched to all chemical friendlier cleaners. I switched deodorant and toothpaste, and I switched shampoo, lotion and shaving cream to all organic. I changed old teflon coated pots and pans to stainless steel. I stopped using the microwave, I stopped Diet Coke and Coffee, and switched to a 100% organic diet. Then I added in 90 minutes of exercise a day. Whew! I'm exhausted just thinking about all this.
) I got rid of my laptop and went to a Desktop Computer. And I stopped talking on the cell phone at home, with a Panasonic Link2Cell phone. It works via bluetooth technology, so when someone calls the cell phone, I use a regular phone to talk to them. Here is the link to them on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-KX-TG7622B-Bluetooth-Cordless-Handsets/dp/B004NBZDTA
But much like you, I ask people what they think caused theirs. Some people could be reluctant to say or they might appear defensive and say "it's nothing we did", and I don't mean to imply it's something we caused, because nobody wants to feel that way. I certainly don't want to think I caused this nightmare. But the fact is, many of us are searching for answers. Especially in the beginning as we move from denial to acceptance. It's a natural process to want to know "how did I get this" and also in part, because we want to avoid anything we think could have caused this.
I do know many TNBC survivors who feel it is one thing or another and now take measures to not interract with what things they think caused it. I read an article that stated Robin Roberts, Anchor for Good Morning America thinks hers was induced by eating too much red meat and soup from cans. I am glad she mentioned that, as I started researching canned foods, and found out that items in cans contain not only excessive amounts of sodium, but also chemicals from the can. So thanks to Robin, I no longer eat anything at all that comes in a can. I'm glad she went public and made a statement on what she felt happened.
For me, I think it was excessive stress the previous 3 years, plus Diet Coke, plus Coffee, plus sweets and maybe a bunch of chemicals from the cleaners. So I 100% eliminated Diet Coke and Coffee. Coffee also is on California's Prop 65 notification list of known carcinogenics. Which I did not know until I started researching it.
Also some Oncologists ran their own studies of women with TNBC and Vitamin D3 deficiency, and discovered an that the majority of their TNBC patients were deficient in vitamin D3. I read that and had mine checked in August, and I was at 12. Normal is 30-100 and my doctor wants me to be at 67. There is a trend now with primary care physicians checking vitamin D levels, and now there are more studies to suggest a link between that and breast cancer.
Have a great day!
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Thanks so much Debra for your long reply, it makes a lot of sense. I know what you mean about people getting defensive about what caused it and I also in no way implying that we did anything wrong in any means, but it is definitely something in our environment and I had hoped like many of us I am sure, to try to narrow it down for our kids and everyone else. I don't drink pop (hope that helps to ease your mind so you can have some again), I drink 1 -2 coffees at day, always just my morning coffee, that's it. What is interesting is that just the other day I mentioned the can concern to my husband as last year I ate SO MUCH tomato soup to help ward off colds. The year before my son and I had caught a bad one that kept me home for a solid week, followed by months of the lingering cough and I was so determined to not have that happen to us again, so every time I felt a sniffle coming on, I opened a can. So I think you may be onto something there. Also, with the cleaners, I was bad for often doing a quick clean, wiping down counters without grabbing the gloves and what's interesting is that mine, like yours, was on my right side. After my lumpectomy, they did an MRI because they there were a few bad cells outside of the clear margin and they thought there was a mass in my left breast, so I then had a double mastetomy. Turned out both were clear but I was positive for lymphovacular invasion...... Now my husband steams everything so I don't use any any chemicals, I clean with good old fashioned vinegar & lemon juice. 2 years ago, I started using aluminum free deodorant (not antipersperant), how ironic that I get BC now right! Geez, how I wish I read more or more notice about these other things years ago (cleaners, bpa in cans and vit D deficiency) This added with a huge amount of stress that I have had over the past 10 years (more than most but I won't go into that) and I don't drink a lot of wine, but used to be a few glasses a week, so there is my 5 things. I will certainly pass this info on to everyone I can. I wanted to tell you that I have heard from numerous sources that dandelion roots are super high in antioxidants, so I will look into that come March when I am through this. When are you finished your treatment? I have recently starting taking a vitamin D supplement, and I am going to ask the oncolgist next week if they will check my level. Thanks so much for all of your great advice!
Denise
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THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR YOUR REPLIES! I appreciate everyone answering my questions. I have my 2nd treatment next week. 1st went well but with the "Red Devil", I anticipate and hear that it will now get more FUN! I got a blood clot this week from the pick so I get to have a needle in the gut each day now for the rest of treatment. My poor husband gets to it. I hope everyone has a great support person - he makes this all bearable for me and keeps me laughing which is vital.
1 more question re radiation: With negative nodes, has anyone here had radiation or going to have it after chemo? They are waiting to see with me, but I am wondering what they base their decision on. I know someone who went through this 4 years ago, and she said no to radiation. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Best wishes to everyone for a full recovery. I hope that everyone is pounding back their vitamin D (and looks into dandelion roots if finished their treatment). I am now staying away from canned goods whenever possible as Debra had some great info on her post above. Happy holidays (is it too soon to say that) and my motto is: LIVE well, LAUGH OFTEN, LOVE always!
Denise
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