Winter RADS 2012 Club...Please come join the fun!
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Off to get my left foob deflated this morning. RO said it will be in the way for rads. I am so depressed about this. Tomorrow is the CT and mapping. It all sucks.
Loveofcritters- I totally understand the whole missing time from work thing. I either have to go early in the morning or late in the day. I can't afford to miss anymore work.
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Hi everyone..I will start my rads tomorrow.I will get 33 rounds.I know that this is much easier than the chemo!
My bosses are very kind and will let me go during my lunch hour.good luck to all
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Dianarose: I am sorry that you have to go through this. After all that you went through to now have it deflated has to be a real bad feeling. Post as soon as you can tomorrow and let us know how you did, ok? I think, though that today's ordeal will be the worst day of the two, emotionally.
deeteeone: I'm glad your employer is human. That is how we all should be treated! TLC never hurt anyone, and you need that don't you? Let us know how it went. The first day I was crying.
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Dianarose, How did your deflation go?
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Loveofcritters, I'm so sorry your boss is being such a jerk. It boggles my mind that people can be so un-understanding re: a cancer diagnosis. It's not like we all want to be going to radiation! I'm just sorry you have to deal with that, and I hope your radiation center understands that you don't have a lot of flexibility in your schedule.
2 treatments down...23 to go. Sigh. At least progress is being made! They are using something called a "bolus" with me - does anyone understand what that does? I don't really understand how it helps and if it means that my skin will react differently...
Hope all you ladies are feeling good!
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Dianarose, I'm so sorry you need to be deflated.
I had my CT today. I had the warm mold thing to lay on. Very interesting. I got three tattoos. One between my breasts, one on the outside of each breast. All three sort of on the bra band line. I didn't have a whole lot explained to me, just the basics. That's overwhelming enough for today. I get my X-ray next Wed, then start treatment Thurs. I'll find out then exactly how many (she told me 6weeks).
One thing that surprised me was that my clavicle needs treatment. It's just too risky for me not to have those nodes radiated. But that freaks me out because the radiation will be going through the back of my upper shoulder?? I'm really scared of all the potential side effects. She said something like 3 field treatment.
I'd say I was OK through my appt but as soon as I walked out the building the tears started rolling. And haven't stopped. I'm really angry about this.
My doctor doesn't recommend specific skin products. Just fragrance free and dye free. To start moisturizing right away. I'm glad to get more specific skin care advice from here. Nothing on skin for 4 hours before treatment. No aluminum deo; I already use something alum free from Alba Botanical. Electric razor to preserve skin.
I need to dig into a few more things, like steps to take to minimize lymphedema risk, PT for scar tissue. But no more for today. -
Dianarose-I hope everything goes well and I'm so sorry you have to be deflated.
loveofcritters-sorry you don't have an understanding boss. I hope your radiologist appointments aren't always backed up so you don't have problems like that anymore. I'm like deeteeone and have a boss that is really understanding. I plan on going during my lunch and I know they won't care if it goes over an hour. They have been really understanding as I have gone through chemo.
cider8-all I can say is hugs to you. I'm sorry it's all so overwhelming to you. I finally have my first consultation with the radiologist on 12/5 so all you guys will be ahead of me. I don't really know what all the side effects are yet except from what I read on these boards. All I've read is the skin irritations that everyone seems to get. The burns, the fatigue etc. I'm sure there's more to it...there always is more to it. I also get to start on the tamoxifen when I start radiation. I get to look forward to those side effects as well!
I'm so glad I can chat with you guys about all of this. Most of the time I feel so alone in all of this. I tell my friends about this and that I'm worried about this or about that and they just ignore what I say most of the time. I guess they don't know how to respond, but...they just totally ignore what I say. I guess also they are not up to date on any of the side effects of anything. They don't know the side effects of radiation or tamoxifen like you guys probably do. If you're like me you've read as much as you can on the subject. Or in the least you've read on these boards about what other women are going through. People who aren't going through all of this just can't understand, but it bothers me that they totally ignore what I say. As if my fears don't require mentioning.
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@terrikoala - How is your 3 week protocol coming along?. 3 down for me ... 12 more to go.. So far so good... been lubing the boob 2 x per day...no major irritations yeeetttt.. but have so many days left.
Hoping the fatigue is manageable. Guess if I got thru the chemo fatigue, I willl get thru this too
I walk from my office to center (15 minute walk). Today I left my office at 1:45 and was finished at RO at 2:15.. Back at work at 2:30 pm -- not alot of stress for me in this respect.
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My deflation was quick and it looks like a flat tire. I don't cry often, but had a bit of a melt down tonight. I am just tired of all of it. This started 14 months ago with a suspicious mammogram.Then 2 biopsies, a lumpectomy, and 3 weeks later a bmx followed by 5 months of chemo. It will be a long six weeks. I have to go for my scan and mapping tomorrow. I hope they can use the old tats. My PS promised she will inflate me the same day of my last rad. My MO was so nice today. All my counts were back to normal and he was surprized how well I did with the chemo. He even gave me a hug.
When I did the chemo I was so tired, but couldn't sleep. I know from round one that with radiation you can sleep. It didn't make me tired until about week three and then I was in be no later than 7. I was finished in March and by June I was back to my normal self as far as fatigue goes.
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Hi everyone. I will start my first treatment tomorrow. I went the other day for the planning. 5 tattoos which are smaller than a freckle so not sure why it bothers me so much.
I hope I don't have to wait long in the waiting room. I was upset the other day and it finally makes sense to me now. Everyone around me in the waiting room look so sick. I feel fine, look fine so why am I there? I think I have hit the angry phase as I know that I'm there so that I can be around for myself, kids and husband but I really don't want to be there. I need to put on my brave face and face it and somehow find a way to be in a better mood. My biggest fear is that my kids (age 7 and 9) will always remember this Christmas as the one that mommy was sick.
Fortunately, my work has been very understanding which eases my fears considerably. I know I will feel better tomorrow. I always have a hard time with the unknown. On a brighter note, I will finish 21/33 by month-end which is sweet considering I have hit the out of pocket deductible!!
Laura -
Loving: (I understand that out-of-pocket deductible so well! Even one day into next year would cost me a mere $5,000 to start the deductible all over again.) You may not have to wait in the waiting room...did they tell you to go right back after checking in and get changed? I am in such a rush when I hit the front door they probably feel a wind rushing through the room as I make for the changing room. Did you have your simulation yet? I think many of us have or are going through anger too. I am 56 yet even I feel young compared to the others there.
cider8: I had to learn a great deal from our sisters that have gone through this already. My doctor didn't recommend anything either. I understand those emotions so well, it seems that we feel so alone at least for the first couple of times. Is that what you were feeling? I am having the same treatment, today will be 15 of 31. So far so good, and the back of my shoulder and clavicle are getting the zaps too. I keep thinking how close that is to my lungs and heart, and hope to goodness that the machine is calibrated right and the nurses are lining me up right...worried about everyone doing their job right is what sucks me of peace.
fhny2012: I have never heard of a bolus. Let us know what that is! You're on the track now...it does get old.
dianarose: I am glad you got through yesterday with a hug. I was hoping that you would be able to have the inflation right away when finished but don't feel informed enough to say it. Your doctor gave you a collective hug from all of us! Please let that hug sustain you as you face off with this latest set back. Tell us how you do today with the first one. As far as sleep....I was in bed at around 6:30 last night. I think that the fatigue for me is really sleepiness, not tiredness if that makes any sense. But, like you, it feels good to sleep after the chemo nightly wakefulness. And with winter upon us, the bed is nice and warm....zzzzzzzz
Sonya: I know. It is good that we have each other. After just a little while no one really wants to hear about this. You start to see their eyes glass over. Is it the day and age we live in? where people won't listen and feel empathy for another's pain? I don't know. The advice here has really really helped me, I will tell you that. And to know that I can vent here is also great...so you just come on here and we will listen and also comfort you in place of your friends there where you live. We all need some TLC and empathy.
Gotta run and get ready for another day. Have a good one sisters!
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Fhny, I too, have the bolus treatment every other day. As it was explained by my RO, they use the bolus because the radiation generally penetrates the skin rather than hitting just the skin layer. When they want the whole dose to hit the skin surface, the bolus addsdepth so the surface is the target. That sucker gets heavy, doesnt it?
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I have been in Rads for two weeks and have already discovered that the 'start time' varies all over the place. I get there 15-20 minutes before my time and I know who goes just before and after me so I can kind of judge whats up by seeing them or not. I have been taken really early, early, on time, late and really late in just two weeks. I am not one to keep my mouth shut but have not questioned it yet and neither have they. I pretty much know what the answers will be: someone was late, the equipment was acting up, someone didn't show/cancelled. I am retired but I do have other appts or things to do after the Rads so when they are late it upsets my schedule. AND I want to get home before the maddening hoards get off the interstate coming home from DC.
I have an Ortho appt today 45 minutes before my Rads and 5 minutes away. Its almost an emergency appt so I took what they had. I will go early and hope I get taken a bit early. Figuring that today because I have this other appt the Rads center would take me early or on time so I told my primary Rads tech about the appt and she said to call her if it looks like I will be late and not to worry. Today is also doctor day . I just hope it works out. My Ortho is a sweetheart and I am the 2nd appt after lunch so it should be ok.
I can only imagine what it would like if I were still working. I worked 45-50 minutes away on a good day so having Rads at lunch would be out of the question. Having them first thing in the AM would have worked for me because alot of the Wash DC area rush would be outta here but not sure how it would have worked for my employer. I worked at home 3 days a week so that would have helped.
Terri
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Critters/cider8- I too worry about the techs and machines being accurate, etc. As I have gotten to know them better, they are easier to trust. I find the whole thing gets emotionally easier each time- maybe because now I have the friggin lymphedema to occupy my mind:) Critters, I hear you on the getting dressed and undressed ina hurry thing...... There should be some sort of olympics for bc treatment survivors. Timed competition going from hospital parking to radiation waiting area, fully gowned, could be one event.
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Dianarose, Your melt down is understandable. That is a long time to be in active treatment and it wears down even the strongest of the strong around here.
Loving, Yeah, a lot of times the B/C patients are the youngest in the room. I know what you mean. I feel sorry for those older people I see, because I think rads will be harder for them. I feel sorry for the younger people I see, that they shouldn't have to even go through this. Don't worry about Christmas. It will be the year "mom showed us how to get thru' something difficult." You don't have to be a superwoman, just a real person role model and believe me that is giving your kids something more precious than anything you can put under a tree.
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Dianarose, sorry you're getting deflated.
I don't really know about all the reconstruction stuff but the inflation has been to stretch out the skin, yes? so it has still served much of its purpose? I hope it's not too dificult to get reinflated later... I would have a meltdown too! Several meltdowns daily I think.
Good luck today deeteeone! I'm close behind you, starting next weds, the 5th.
Paula, ugh! you have already gone through so much! Effing Cancer! My RO said a lot of his patients use Vaseline lotion with Aloe and I was sitting there thinking, "yuck! that's probably got petroleum and parabens in it!" but I didn't say that.I'm going to start with CalBaby Sensitive skin - no fragrance, no dyes, no parabens, etc... and see how that goes. I also have some Weleda calendula ointment on the way. I have tolerated calendula before so I expect to be ok but it's probably a possible allergen.
sonson, you're funny! "I get to look forward to those side effects as well! " blurgh. I started my tamoxifen last night. I think I experienced a bit of a headache/head pressure from it but it's hard to sort since I am only 1 week 2 days out from final chemo... Like, my feet are killing me this morning and were last night. I think that's just chemo. I'm glad we are all here for each other too. I have some friends who have been great, my mother-in-law too but still, no one knows like we know when you get right down to it.
I got my CT and my tatts yesterday. I will have my port removed on the 3rd and start rads on Dec 5th, 2012 - 30 total, 25 + 5 "boosts". I felt close to crying when the nurse was asking me how chemo went and etc... it is tough not to have little pity parties for yourself sometimes, isn't it? but my husband showed up by the time the RO got there and I felt much better then. My husband has not been spectacular through chemo but he has been there for me and I was really happy that he made it yesterday on a very intense and busy day for him.
Loving, I don't like the tattoos either. I expect I'll want them removed later unless they fade on their own.To anyone I've missed - I hope things go well, smoothly, as happily as can be, with few to no side effects and no hassles from jerks!
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This might be a little late for some but if you really don't want tattoos, ask if they will just mark you with a Sharpie marker. I had that and the markings never rubbed/showered totally off. They could touch them up daily, and they gave me a marker to use over the weekends as needed. Other than getting a green marker stain on the one bra I wore during that time, there was no downside for me.
I did get three tatts this time. I told them to make them TINY, but mine are slightly larger than fine-line felt tip marker. Oh well, these are not on my chest so it's not like the world will ever se them.
What I want to stress is that you may not be given a choice, but if you ask you will probably find that they do have an alternative to the tattts.
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Got my tats and CT scan yesterday - so that's over. It was so weird as I was laying there I had this deja vu moment. 20+ years ago I went with my dad for radiation. Such a weird feeling - and it was his birthday yesterday too - so many coincidences - or not? I miss him so much. Thanks for listening. This road is such an education.
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I've not only met the deductible, but I've hit the maximum out of pocket for the year! Unfortunatley I won't be done with rads until the middle of January so it will all start over again in January. Wish I could have gotten this over with sooner! Maybe if I had found the lump sooner...but oh well.
Allyourbaddays...so I went snooping and looked at your blog. Those waffles you made looked so good and so healthy! But you haven't posted anything since chemo number 2. I guess you've been too busy posting on here instead! How did the fasting go for you? I had thought of doing that...pretty much ended up doing that anyway since I really didn't feel like eating, but the not eating seemed to make me feel more tired. Seemed like a catch 22.
dventi-I wish I could walk to my appointments! I'm not so lucky.
loveofcritters-thanks for listening! And someone said somewhere. I've been reading so many discussion boards today it may not have been on this one...but every now and then we all have pity parties. I guess I was feeling it yesterday!
And everyone, I hope you have a wonderful day! With appointments running on schedule and no burning peeling skin to deal with and most of all no melt downs for a day. We'll see what tomorrow brings, but today I hope today is a great day for all of you.
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I went today for my first session. So happy that the anticipation is over! This morning prior to the session was very emotional. As everyone has said, the session was so easy! I'm amazed how nice everyone is at the center. They truely are special angels for me as it makes a big difference in my day that they go out of their way to make me comfortable. I didn't realize how massive the machine would be (maybe it just felt like it). I laughed as they have spongebob stickers for you to look at during the session! I did find out that I need 35 treatments vs. 33 that I was told the other day.
But it is only 2 more sessions...
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Hi All... hope tx are going well,. anyone getting cat scans and/or xrays in between RADS.....Told I was getting a CT scan tomorrow -5th day of RADS -so far so good - no major issues - having the 15 day protocol..
hate all this radiation --- gets me down...
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Hi and welcome to everyone just starting! I have 8 more treatments to go. I am feeling pretty fatigued now. I even called out from work this morning. The past 2 days, my breast has been feeling rather warm. Today it is definitely feeling like I have a sunburn, but internally as well on the surface. I came home and slathered aloe vera gel all over it, which helped, but it's still feeling irritated. I hope it doesn't get any worse.
I've been very lucky that my center has never run late. I usually get there 15 minutes early, since I leave from work, and they usually get me in before I even sit down. I love that! I've seen a lot of people come and go now, and am looking forward to when I'm one of the ones who are through!
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Loviing, glad your first day went well. I had 14/33 today and am so used to it that i totally zoned out and was surprised to be finished. The techs scard the hell out of me when they came in the room. I like the spongebob stickers.
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cowpower: me too! #17 today, and this week I could just fall asleep on the table: it just feels good to lie down for a minute! Guess that's my body telling me to take it easy lady. Busy trying to get xmas and holiday vacation taken care of in the event I really run out of steam. It's going fast. My skin is pink. I pray it holds up. When I think about the early days when I had to play my soothing song playlist in my head so I wouldn't freak out, now I don't even notice what's going on. I do feel like changing my time just to change it up, but I might regret it. Basically just tired of the routine. All normal stuff I'm sure. Heading to early bed now, my body is telling me to and I am listening.
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Heidismom I guess I am getting tired too since I just woke up in my chair and read your post. My skin is also getting pink. The aloe felt good tonight. I have to find something to keep my compression bandaging from the lyphedema from rubbing around in armpit/chest area. I will have to get creative as the bandaging is quite thick. Oh well, its only for a few weeks more on both counts. Sleep well and knock another treatment off tomorrow. I cross mine off my calendar in black sharpie when I get home
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Hello:
I was glad to find this group of women going through or about to start radiation treatment during the Winter months. I just had my lumpectomy several weeks ago and based on my results, the internal (brachytherapy) radiation was recommended. I expect to be doing this right after the new year, and while I wait for my plan for this treatment, I am starting to plan for the next step in this journey.
I live in the Southwest and will be needing to go to a neighboring state (AZ) for this treatment (not offered in my city). They will use the catheters and everything will be done on an outpatient basis. I will need to be there several weeks to complete this treatment process.
I would love to hear from any women who may be going through this type of radiation, your experiences during and after. Any things you wished you had known before you started.Appreciate the collective wisdom of the women here!
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Jazzygirl: I don't have that kind of experience but just wanted to let you know our hearts go out to you! And I have the nerve to complain...it must be a heck of a problem to have to go out of state and worry about everything from lodging to work to the home front being taken care of. That is just a lot on someone's plate when they need to rest! I hope someone can help but I haven't heard of internal for breast cancer to this point.
dventi: They scan me once per week. I have 31 treatments. The other girls said it is normal.
loving: Glad your first day was good. Now it becomes a kind of rut after the first week. Next emotion to watch for on your radar is anger. I am mid way almost and that is how I feel. I remember reading the posts from the fall rads girls and several were extremely angry...cussing angry. It gets old. You get tired and cranky.
cvmarilyn: That must have been a sad treatment for you. How strange that it was on your dad's birthday too. I hope it made you feel less alone somehow, like your treatment was meant to be and your dad was there with you. Are you doing ok now?
Loving: I'm sorry but 2 xtra treatments IS a big deal. I would try to put a brave face on it too, because what else can you do except endure? I loved what elimar said on her post about your kids this Christmas, it was exactly what I wanted to say and tried but couldn't get the right words out. Perfect.
cowpower: I LOVED your idea of an olympics for rushing into treatment. I would probably get arrested for taking off my clothes in the car on the way there and running into the building with my bra half off!
That is what I feel like doing now!!! So many people have seen my breasts what does it matter if a few more get a peek?
Well ladies off of here to go and sit on the couch with a cup of coffee and try to face the day. Does anyone else feel like life is slipping between their fingers like water? The days turn into weeks that turn into months, etc. and I don't feel like I have ever lived. Just a to do list every day. Duty and responsibilites, and no joy.
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Critters- man you would be a fierce competitor in our olympics! I would never have thought of stripping on the way in, lol, but you are right- everybody has seen it all anyway....So sorry to hear you feeling a bit down today.I too remember reading the Fall Rads girls as they hit the middle, thinking they sounded angry and sad, and then being glad when they started to pick up again. I am not there yet,but I see it coming soon. We are continually forced to look for our own joy and find those elusive silver linings while on this seemingly endless and surreal grind- doing things on a daily basis that were unimaginable to us last year, and behaving as if it was normal. Sending gentle ((( hugs ))) your way and hoping you wont be practicing your olympic strip in the parking lot today!
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sonson, well I wasn't even posting much on here for the rest of AC because I felt pretty bad. I think I was more tired when I fasted before and after AC but I still don't think I'd change what I did. It was overall more comfortable for me to just sleep than to deal with the gut pain plus the Neulasta usually knocked me out too. I don't know how many people on chemo experience more gut pain than nausea - it may have something to do with my celiac but also as my MO reduced my steroids, that eased the pain a bit too. I should document up more of this info on that space I think before I forget it. I have made even better waffles since that recipe - I am SO hooked on buckwheat, it's maybe a little weird but then much of our country eats wheat every meal so I guess there's that comparison...
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Love of critters:
Thank you for your reponse to my post. I have been wrangling with this whole out of state treatment recommendation. What I was originally told about the time commitment there, etc. changed yesterday. So last night, I sat down and began thinking about finding a good Plan B.
I am going to seek another opinion about doing the external beam radiation, which is available in my city. It will allow me to work easier, and will be less of a financial hit too. I wrote out a pros and cons list with what I believe I know so far about both approaches including medical, financial, work, and support considerations. Once I get all the information, I can make a better informed decision about which plan is really do-able for me.And something to maybe help you as you feel no joy in your life (and I can relate to the feeling of duty and responsibilities). Find one thing every day that is JUST for you. Something that brings you joy, happiness, etc. Whether it is listening to some music you love, eating something you really enjoy, talking to a friend who understands, buying yourself some flowers. I have not been involved in this process as long as you and many others here, but have had a long and complicated year with many losses and problems. To get through this time in my life, I just try to take it each day at a time without stressing too much about the future. Peace sister!
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