Searching for people with Invasive Lobular BC

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  • lukefrancis1
    lukefrancis1 Member Posts: 40
    edited October 2012

    hi been looking for sisters with this ILC just diagnosed 1.9 cm right breast really scared....mri showed other breast clear.  Dr said it is not common type of bc but has treated ,many women....I am happy (selfishly to have women to share with) and sad that we must deal with this....scheduled to see ps fri surgery 10/22 bi lateral mast.  any words of encouragement would be greatly appreciated! hugs to u all

    Barbara

  • TinaT
    TinaT Member Posts: 2,300
    edited October 2012

    Barbara - Hi, so sorry you're on this roller coaster ride, but glad you are reaching out.  I identify with your story...well, the scared and the bilateral surgery parts at least :).  I had very dense breasts and basically useless mammograms.  I fought for an MRI which showed 5 suspicious areas in the left breast - 3 benign fibroadenomas, 1 ILC, and 1 DCIS.  None of these showed on mammogram and only 3 could be seen on ultrasound.  Even the MRI report commented that dense breast tissue somewhat limited the exam (yikes!).  Despite the other breast looking clear I opted for bilateral over unilateral surgery.  This was after educating myself about lobular CA, having already had ADH excised from the "good" breast several years before, and knowing that I would always be wondering what was lurking after already having 3 cancerous/pre-cancerous masses found.  My breast surgeon was very supportive and thought it was a reasonable decision.

    The MX pathology showed that the right breast was indeed clear, but more early lobular and multiple areas of ADH were found sprinkled throughtout the left breast.  None of this showed on any of the images studies.  If I'd had any lingering doubts about choosing bilateral MX they were gone after hearing that report.

    I was able to have nipple-sparing MX and I chose tissue expander/silicone implant reconstruction.  Other than some healing issues after MX I have done really well.  I am fortunate to have the most wonderful surgeons and oncologist.  In retrospect, other than not having cancer :) I wouldn't do a single thing differently regarding my surgical, reconstruction, and treatment plans.

    Best of luck to you!

      

  • Paminarkansas
    Paminarkansas Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2012

    Hello everyone--I'm in the club now too, as of Nov 6. 

    Age 45, no history, ILC definitely in the left breast.  As I learn about this very very sneaky cancer, I am strongly considering double mastectomy with reconstruction.  I am not staged at this point, and I still have some lingering tests to tell me exactly how far this cancer has taken hold, but it is a comfort to have so many to share the journey and vent the fear and frustration.  Thanks to you all. 

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2012

    Pam, welcome and glad you found us. I was 47 at DX and had just sent my kid off to college. Cancer treatment was not exactly the kind of "me time" I had in mind for this time in my life. Oh well!

    I too, like many of the other ILC patients here, opted for bilateral. No regrets.

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited November 2012

    Surgeon refused bilateral to me, had MX in May this year, feel utterly mutilated, but am sadly in the

    ILC club........

    15% of all breast cancers are lobular so we are not that rare but we definitely fall in to a different category.....

  • Paminarkansas
    Paminarkansas Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2012

    Momine...my kids are in high school and within a year or two of empty nesting...so I agree totally about not the quality me time I was hoping for!



    I meet with breast cancer surgeon tomorrow to get a surgical game plan. She and I tend to think that "cleaning house".... My term....is best to avoid a lifetime of worry and the potential of a hidden cancer.



    I appreciate your sense of humor about this unexpected deal. Keep it coming!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2012

    I have to laugh, it makes it easier I think. Besides, laughter is supposed to be good for your health.

    I fired my first surgeon because he utterly refused to take both. This was before I knew it was ILC. The next surgeon was willing, and even more willing after we got the biopsy results showing ILC. The post-BMX path showed hyperplasia and in situ in the supposedly healthy breast. My onc thinks I go overboard on the treatment, BMX and a hyster to go on AIs and be rid of the estrogen engines, but for me this makes it easier for me to move on. 

    It is obviously not super-fun to find yourself tit-less all of a sudden, but I see the boobs as luxury parts and not essential, so it really doesn't bother me too much. 

  • TinaT
    TinaT Member Posts: 2,300
    edited November 2012

    Hi Pam,

    I'm sorry you are dealing with BC, but glad you found these forums.  You can research all you want and find the best docs you can, but it still helps so much to "talk" to other women who are going through it with you.  You can commiserate with those at the same stage as you and also find some comfort from those who are further along and can help with their experiences.  It's overwhelming, especially at first, but it really does get a bit easier mentally once you know what you're dealing with and have your team in place and a game plan.

    I had both ILC and DCIS in the left breast so lumpectomy wasn't an option.  I'd had a surgical biopsy of the right breast a year earlier with ADH so was already in breast cancer mode mentally.  I knew I wanted reconstruction and I decided I'd rather have a "matched set" and not always be waiting for the other shoe to drop so I chose bilateral surgery.  My breast surgeon actually looked relieved when I told her my decision (or else I was desperately looking for a sign from her that I'd made the right decision :)  ).  I had very dense breasts so mammograms were pretty useless (my masses were found by MRI).  Surgical pathology showed additional early lobular and multiple areas of ADH sprinkled throughout the left breast that hadn't shown up on any imaging modality.  Oddly, the right breast was totally clear.

    If you choose to have reconstruction, there are great plastic surgeons out there who can construct a pretty close match if you choose unilateral surgery.  I'm very happy that I chose bilateral surgery, it was the right decision for me.  Everyone has to play the "what if" game in their own head and decide what they're comfortable with.

    I wish you all the best - you can do this! 

  • Paminarkansas
    Paminarkansas Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2012

    Thank you, Tina.  It is truly a safe haven here.  It's nice too that ILC has its own forum because even though it's the second most "common," it's pretty far down on the second rung. 

    I finally decided as of yesterday to do the bilateral.  I reaaaally need this surgery to be done when I can take off work for the holidays (happy holidays!) for employment and emotional reasons.  Wish me luck that I can get the two docs who have to be present on schedule asap!

    Also learned that I'm HER2 negative--yay!  Still waiting on BRACA test results.  Won't know what chemical soup I'll be taking until after surgery.  I have heard from lots of you brave souls that once you actually know what you're up against, it's easier to handle it. 

    I am very fortunate to live and work within a ten minute drive of the medical center here that specializes in breast cancer treatment and research.  It's a respected institution and on the cutting edge (no pun intended) of all breast cancers.  

    Once you're in the cancer club, you never leave, but what a wonderful network of support.  Thanks to everyone here.  

  • TinaT
    TinaT Member Posts: 2,300
    edited November 2012

    Pam - I hope you'll also ask/research nipple sparing surgery if that's of any interest to you.  Not everyone is a candidate, but I credit it a great deal for how well I've done since surgery.  Just another thing to add to the list of questions.  Amazingly, some women still aren't being made aware that it's an option....

  • Paminarkansas
    Paminarkansas Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2012

    Yes, the plan is to save the nipples if at all possible. Every little bit helps, that's true.

    Set for surgery Dec. 21. Dbl. mastectomy and insertion of expanders under chest wall. Tons of fun for the holidays!! But I'm eager to get on with it.

    I Appreciate the upbeat "been there done that" from you ladies.

  • TinaT
    TinaT Member Posts: 2,300
    edited November 2012

    Pam - Of course, it's a very difficult thing to go through.  But, I was so lucky to have great docs who patiently answered my million questions.  I've done as well as I guess I could by educating myself and listening to that little voice inside.  There will be points along the way where there is no concrete right or wrong answer.  You'll wish someone would just tell you what to do, but you just have to crash course your way through, cross your fingers, and do what feels right for you.  I'm sorry to say there's no crystal ball so you just have to push through as best you can.

    Keep us posted!

  • wagirl
    wagirl Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2012

    Hello all! This is the first time I've seen this thread. I, too, have (had) ILC and am now done with 5 months of chemo (Oct 30th)  and just starting my 33 days of radiation (Nov 27th). It's been quite a month of recovering. Have had alot of pain and days of feeling pretty crappy. I'm battling numbness in my feet/toes/legs and hands/arms and fingers. Have had lots of issues with my gut as well as muscle and joint pain. And my left arm and hand is swollen from lymphodema. I have begun some physical therapy for my whole body and will start p/t for the lymphodema. Sounds like I'm whining alot and sometimes I do. Just wanted to know what you fabulous people did or are doing to help you thru this process. Can't seem to find much about this. I will be going to the local support group so I'm sure that will help.  My best wishes for everyone affected by these nasty cancer zombies--little beastiesYell

    PAM W.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited December 2012

    Hi Pam, and sorry for your troubles. I was not a very happy camper either in that treatment stage where you are now.

    For the gut: pro-biotics, I use acidophilus, 3X a day. Onc said it was fine. It helps against thrush, gut problems, yeast etc. Your system is completely wiped and some good bacteria will help recovery.

    For general crumminess, exercise. I know it is hard, but it really does help, even if all you can manage is a slow crawl around the block. Generally try to get OUT. Get some fresh air, go to a gallery or a cafe, see a friend, have a glass of wine, take in a movie. Try to find at least one thing to enjoy every day.

  • beachlovingmom
    beachlovingmom Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2012

    Hello fellow ILC women!  I was dx on 10/17/12 with what they thought was a 1.2 cm tumor.  Mammogram was clear that day but ultrasound followed by core biopsy showed ILC.  Even the MRI showed a small tumor.  I opted for a bilateral mastectomy because of family history and not wanting to wait for cancer to return in the other breast.  It was an easy decision for me and my onco supported it, esp when my BRAC 2 was positive. 

    My decision was the best one, as my tumor was actually all throughout my dense breast tissue and a whopping 6.5 cm.  I also has ductual cancer in my other breast...very small so stage zero but I am so eternally grateful that I made the right decision.

    Pam - I am almost five weeks post my bilateral mast with expanders.  I did not do nipple sparing and was not offered that choice.  The first week was tough but my DH took great care of me and friends/family helped with my boys (7 and 9).  By the second week I was back to walking 1.5 miles and feeling pretty decent.  By three weeks I was back to walking three miles.  My plastic surgeon told me that a bilateral mastectomy is 80% emotion and 20% physical.  I took that advice to heart.  I have been getting double fills and am already a small C cup (started as a B), so my outside appearance is normal.  The surgery is totally doable...my biggest advice is to get some pouches to hold your drains.  I got mine from a medical supply store for $6 each.  Good luck!

    Keep up the fight ladies!  I am off to get my port.

  • TinaT
    TinaT Member Posts: 2,300
    edited December 2012

    beachlovingmom - Sorry you have to be here, but welcome!  My mammogram was also "clear" due to very dense breast tissue.  I was tired of that report every year so finally fought to get an MRI just to ease my mind (no family history, no lumps felt).  Just a gut feeling... 

    I ended up having ILC, DCIS, more lobular neoplasia, and multiple areas of ADH "sprinkled throughout the mid breast".  All in the left breast, nothing abnormal in the right.  Only the ILC and DCIS showed up on MRI/ultrasound.  So, went into BMX thinking there were two cancers and it turned out there was much more going on.  Each of us has to make decisions based on the facts at hand and our own comfort level.  I'm also so glad I chose bilateral over unilateral MX, it was the right choice for me.

    My personal goal is to encourage women to push for MRI if they are told to watch and wait or if they have dense breast tissue.  I also like to spread the word about nipple-sparing MX.  Were you aware of NSM but just not a good candidate or were you not aware of it at all until after your MX? 

    Sounds like you are handling things well so far.  It's a roller coaster ride for sure so there will be extra-tough days mixed in there.  Best wishes!

  • Paminarkansas
    Paminarkansas Member Posts: 7
    edited January 2013

    Hello ladies!

    I am 2 wks post bilateral mastec with expanders and am so happy to be this far along. I had a whopping four drains and that was not fun.....just the logistics were a hassle....but am free of them now. Start saline fill in two weeks. Going back to work next week part time because I have a new boss.



    Is there any trick to getting a decent night's sleep? Tried ambien, heating pad, fan on for white noise, and I cannot get more than a few hours. Discomfort trumps it all. Advice?



    Otherwise, I am more sure of my decision to do a bilateral mastec because the tumor was 4.5 cm when it was thought to be about 1 cm. MRI with contrast could not see all of it. Gulp.



    Anyway, happy new year to all and here's to a happier healthier 2013!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2013

    Hi Pam, the discomfort drove me quite nuts too. What I found most helpful in the end was an anti-inflammatory before bed, but check with your doc that it is OK to take, what he/she prefers etc.

    it does get better, but it takes a while I am sorry to report.

  • noraLCIStoILC
    noraLCIStoILC Member Posts: 57
    edited January 2013

    Anti-inflammatory before going to bed - but I must confess that I was still using muscle relaxers and vicodin at 2 weeks postop (I also still had 2 of 4 drains).

    Also, I used a high bed wedge (12" high at back); got mine at amazon.com. I'm still using it b/c it's helping with back pain and snoring. Thinking about buying one for husband so that we're on the same level and so that his snoring is diminished.

    I thought that the TE's were pretty uncomfortable, the squishies are much more comfortable!

  • jillanne0306
    jillanne0306 Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2013

    I'm 10 years. Happy Happy. Plan on taking my little Femara pill for a long time. Hate side effects but I got to see both of my graduate college. Then my daughter's wedding, with my new hair cut. Last year I got to see my first grandbaby. Planning on dancing at my Grandaughter wedding.

  • andy7
    andy7 Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2013

    Absolutely right that an mri is critical for ILC-the mammagram didn't show anything. Insist on it-at the very least an ultrasound is necessary. God bless.

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