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  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2012

    Gee when you put it that way Soltantio it does seem daunting.  I work full time also and I've warned everyone about having a doctor appointment every single day.  I wonder if  it will get old by the time six weeks is up.  I know it's going to get old for me.  I know my sick leave is dwindling down to nothing and soon I'll have to start using my vacation time which I really hate, but at least I have a lot of that left.

    I'm also glad that some of you are ahead of us and can give us some pointers and tips of what to expect.  Aliyahgirl, sorry I can't give tips for a great nonunderwire bra.  I did buy a genie bra recently from Bed Bath and Beyond that fit pretty well, but I'm not a big gal.  I'm a 36C...I wouldn't call that big.  They are comfortable and I'm pretty sure they come in larger sizes, just not sure how large they come.  I think you could also google that and see how large it goes.  I'm sure Amazon carries it as well.  What I like best about it is that they have these little pads in them that keep your nipples from showing...my nipples are extremely sensitive to cold temperatures so that was an important feature to me.  Maybe TMI, but there you have it. 

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited November 2012

    Hydration, nutrition, exercise, sleep. A great reminder, as I slack on something at any given time.

  • terrikoala
    terrikoala Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    I started the 3 week protocol Sunday 11/18 and was on the Fall Rads thread so I overlap into December so here I am!!!

    After two treatments I  must be official now because they gave me my swipe card to use when I get there everyday that signals their computer that I am there!


    Terri

  • terrikoala
    terrikoala Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    RO office patient consultant told me at my first session not to take any antioxidants (Especially Selenium) or mega doses of any vitamins/supplements because they can interfere with the radation effectiveness.  Selenium is in my multi vitamins so I guess I will stop them completely until the RADS are over. They want us to stay healthy and eat well so not taking vitamins seems counter intuitive to me. I also read that antioxidants can HELP with RADS side effects.  What have you ladies been told?

    Terri

  • terrikoala
    terrikoala Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    Sonya,

    Bless your heart for having to go thru the chemo but happy its over for you. Radiation should be much easier on you after enduring chemo. Thanks for starting this thread.

    Terri

  • terrikoala
    terrikoala Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    Aliyahgirl,

    Try Bramates.com. I have always been well endowed too and now am a DDD and cannot imagine not having underwires. I got these wonderful pads for the sweating and rashes I got under the girls and now they will serve double duty. I will keep wearing my industrial strength undewires and use the pads if I have any rubbing/irritation. I showed the pads to the RO staff and  I made copy of pertinent info and they are going to share the info with patients. Check them out! They come in all sizes and prices are good and free shipping.

    Terri

  • loveofcritters
    loveofcritters Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2012

    Loneskier: I hope you can get that early slot...but if not and have to start off with another time, you can tell them about your wishes and when it frees up they will move you to it if they can. They were trying to accomodate me at my center but they start at 8:00 and the last one is 4:00. And welcome! I am a morning person too. I will keep my fingers crossed for all of us that the snow holds off for a while.

    Heidismom: You are 1/3 of the way through. I just had 9/31 and picked up some literature from the nurse about lymphedema. I didn't know you could get that if they nuke the underarm where nodes were removed.

    While I was there the machine crashed. We all had to wait for the repair. When I passed the monitor/camera there were about 6 guys in suits standing there and the nurse said they are getting a new machine since the one I am using has been there since they opened. Ummmmm....please tell me the machine is in good working order...Please? I hope to goodness they looked away when I had my treatment!Embarassed When I passed them on the way out I saluted them and said, "hello boys!" My bad.

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited November 2012

    I've got my appt with RO on Wed Nov 28. Not sure if they are doing the simulation the same day. I will be going over my treatment plan and discuss all the side effects. Got to work on my list of questions! My topics will include scatter, lymphedema, lung and muscle issues/damage, supplements.

  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2012

    Loveof......you're funny, but when you're at your most vulnerable, (i.e. exposed in front of strangers!) it's best to become a comedian and put everyone at ease.    I'm sure your machine was fine, they must just go and go until they break down.  Lots of use I'd say.

    And don't think I'm not aware that I'm 1/3 way thru, always counting and calculating!  After tomorrow, #13, that is half of the whole breast radiation completed.  Asked my husband last night if he could see the pink skin, and he was so funny, said I don't know, I never get to SEE them!  True, like that commercial for Directv.  I've become a closet dresser in my menopausal chubby 50's.

    I didn't have lymph nodes removed since I was diagnosed with DCIS and it's not the protocol.  Once the pathology from lumpectomy showed a micro-invasion the docs discussed me at their weekly conference call and decided it was so tiny the odds were miniscule that lymph nodes involved and no need for more surgery.  They also said "maybe" to the question of whether I'll need hormone therapy.  I have to be mighty convinced to go in that direction.  Meeting with MO next week and I know he's ready to hand me a prescription for after rads and I want to TALK.  I'm just reaching the far side of menopause right now, so no to Tamoxifan.  Will peruse the threads on this topic.  I'm not young and I'm not old.  Almost 53.  So back to the lymphodema, hope you don't have an issue.  I think I've read here somewhere about massaging the area. 

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited November 2012

    Paula, I know you were concerned before about how it would affect your diep reconstruction. I gather there won't be any problems with it? I had TEs placed after my bmx, but now I'm considering getting a second opinion about flaps. I honestly don't know if I have enough fat on my stomach for a diep; maybe a igap or sgap? My PS does't like flaps, probably cause he doesn't do them. But I hate my TEs, and don't know if I want more foreign objects stuck in me. I know rads can make reconstruction with implants difficult, and I just want things over and done with, and not have to worry about it years down the line.

    Had tx 11 of 25 today. My breast is pink, and the skin feels slightly irritated. Slathering on the Miaderm! The RO said to not wear a bra, but with these TEs, I wasn't wearing one anyway. I picked up some Jockey Luxe camosoles and they are smooth and comfy against my skin. 

  • Aruba
    Aruba Member Posts: 543
    edited November 2012

    Hi ladies,

    I was in the fall gang and ended rads on 10/31.  I happened to check in back there and saw a request for someone "well endowed" to come on over so thought I would hop over here and see where I can help.   Looks like you were discussing bras.  I too was in predicament of trying to figure out a decent non underwire to wear during rads and after.  Someone suggested I try out Lane Bryant (I had never stepped foot in one before) but that was the place I found good support non underwire bras.  I bought a few.  As Rads progressed, I dropped the bra all together so that I could let air get to the underboob as much as possible.  I even bought a tall fan so that I could lie down and let the air hit that area.  I bought some mens tank top undershirts and wore those to treatment so I could put on the gel right after and not ruin any bra or shirt from the markers.  Figure I could just toss the men's shirts away if they got marker on them and they did.

      Remember to keep loobin the boob, get air to that underboob and ask your center for mepilex, I think it was called.  A foam that could be cut into strips and placed on underboob or underarm area to avoid rubbing.  I had 25 rads and 6 boosts and my skin held up good until the last week when I had peeling on the underboob and underarm area by SNB scar.    The saline solution from Tazzy also brought great relief..just felt so cool on the warm skin.  I also used aloe from trader joe's as well as radiagel supplied from my center.  Hope this helps!!  You will get through this!!!!!

  • Loving
    Loving Member Posts: 37
    edited November 2012

    Hi everyone! I have been lurking since before my biopsy in September and have decided to join. I have my planning session on Monday and will start the treatments a few days later. I met with the RO today and absolutely fell in love with her! I was so relieved as my appointment with the oncologist didn't go well last week and seeing someone else in a few weeks. The RO even left my appointment to find the new oncologist to make sure he was ok moving forward with rads (no chemo woohoo). My oncotype score was 16 so wasn't sure which way it would go. Since I had no lymph node involvement, it was ruled out. I'm not sure how many treatments I will have but they told me it would be ~7 weeks since there are holidays.



    I'm nervous but the RO shared so much information today that it relieved some of my anxiety! I'm so thankful for so many compassionate individuals during this great adventure that we are all experiencing.



  • Outdamnedspot
    Outdamnedspot Member Posts: 297
    edited November 2012

    Anyone getting a flu shot before starting rads?  My family doctor called and thinks I should have one prior.  Never had one before, but I guess there are some confirmed cases of influenza in my area.

  • cvmarilyn
    cvmarilyn Member Posts: 179
    edited November 2012

    Hi ~  I recognize lots of you from other threads. I go next Wednesday for my tats and stiff. How did that go for you all? I finished chemo 3 weeks ago today but have to do Herceptin and what I call "The P drug" 'til next July :(  I was soooo hoping to not feel a thing after my first one yesterday - but have felt a bit queezy - anyway here we go another chapter in this journey. Happy Thanksgiving!!!

  • fhny2012
    fhny2012 Member Posts: 41
    edited November 2012

    Hi ladies!  I'm joining in as my first rads is this coming Monday, Nov. 26th.  I had a BMX but an involved lymp node and am triple negative, so here I am.  I've stockpiled Calendula and Biafine, and am hoping for the best!

    Regarding the importance of nutrition, does anyone have any insight into what, exactly, we're supposed to be eating?  My physical therapist said a lot of protein was good, but I haven't heard any other specifics.  Also, I've read that a glass of red wine a day helps with radiation, but I know it's contraindicated for BC...any thoughts?

    So nervous re: rads but I figure it's got to be easier than chemo!

    Wishing you all a great day and a happy Thanksgiving!

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited November 2012

    Andrea, I do have a shrinkage risk with my flap reconstruction; 15% is a number that's been thrown around. If I end up lopsided I've decided that I will adjust the 'good' side instead of messing with radiated skin. Then there is the aspect of the radiated side firming up, sort of lifting. Nothing that can't be fixed, so I'm not too worried about it anymore. PM me if you have questions about flaps. I love mine. Poke around breastcenter.com for some overall details. The good surgeons can find fat anywhere!



    Regarding nutrition I think it's generally about not filling up on the simple carbs (breads, sugars, junk food) and focusing on lean protein, fruits & vegetables, and also avoiding processed foods. There's a ton of different directions to go with that general info.

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited November 2012

    Thanks, Cider! There is a PS in our area, Dr. Robert Ferguson, who does flaps. My PS does not, so after I'm done with rads, I'm going to schedule a consultation with him. From what I've read so far, I think a sgap might work best for me, but we'll see what he says. I'm not sure how to let my PS know I want a second opinion though. My RO suggested Dr. Ferguson, and I've heard some good thing about him.

    Have a Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! Enjoy your day off rads!

  • momtopiglet
    momtopiglet Member Posts: 28
    edited November 2012

    Hi everyone- I just thought I would jump in and join the winter group too.  

    I've just finished my second week of treatments.  I haven't had any skin issues yet, knock on wood, but I'm totally exhausted, and I thought that wasn't supposed to happen until the last week or so. *insert not impressed face*  I'm trying to rest, but I have four kiddos, so it's tough. Anyhow, other than that, it's been going smoothly.  I'm hoping to be done  right before Christmas or so.  

    Also, my radiologist practice uses the 'Accuboost' machine, and does the 'boost' at the beginning of the 6 weeks instead of the end. Just wondering if anyone else has been treated with Accuboost and what their experience was like?

  • loveofcritters
    loveofcritters Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2012

    Hi momtopiglet: I just finished #10 of 31 and also have no skin issues, just a bit pink. I don't have fatigue like I expected (so far) probably because I have been tired all of my life (anemic) and it feels normal. I haven't heard about Accuboost before. I hope you can get someone to make the Thanksgiving feast today! It must be a challenge to get any rest with 4 kids. Good luck!

    fhny2012: Welcome! And happy Thanksgiving to you too. I hope that your rads go nice and smooth. It seems that you are prepared to "loob the boob" with your products. Good! Yes, it is definitely easier than chemo. However, root canal in a back alley is easier than chemo. I am 1/3 of the way through my rads, but it is the after effects of chemo that bother me more than the rads. My nails are falling off from the Taxotere 3 months after the last treatment! grrrr. I digress....anyway about the nutrition...are you a healthy eater now? It is always good to attempt to make right choices like fruit and veggies and protein (I choose peanut butter) while keeping the bad stuff to a minimum. MODERATION is the key. I haven't heard that about wine and rads....you're not making that up are you? Innocent Personnally I think Sam Adams Boston Lager helps with rads!!! But I am conducting that little study all on my own!

    Loving and cvmarilyn: Welcome to you too! Lots of helpful information here to get you over your fears. The doctor just can't cover everything and there are personal things that we need answers to and you will be able to ask anything and everything here. It is scary and the emotions go haywire the first couple of days, but after that you will talk with the nurses and other patients and it is not scary at all. I hope your treatments go well too!

    Outdamnedspot: (Just love that name) My husband and I got the flu shot this year for the first time. We volunteer at a hospital with our therapy dogs and this year that hospital was very serious about everyone getting it if they volunteer. If you don't you have to wear a surgical mask when visiting. We kind of felt maybe they know something we don't since they are so urgent about it. I think that you should ask your Radiation Oncologist though because I saw mine for the first time a week after I had the shot and he said after being on chemo he would not have advised it so soon. I told him (with a twinkle in my eye and a cocky smile) "I didn't ASK YOU!" He just laughed. My last chemo was August for crying out loud.

    Aruba: How are you doing now? Thanks for coming back to check in on us!!!! That is how we all are getting through this...with the help of our sisters that went before us. Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

  • loveofcritters
    loveofcritters Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2012

    Just wanted to tell everyone I went bra-less for the first time at work, wearing the shelf bra cami instead under my blouse. It felt great. I am 36B-C cup and was afraid that it would not be enough support but it was fine. So comfortable. I don't have skin issues yet but wanted to try to head any off.

  • bexH
    bexH Member Posts: 49
    edited November 2012

    Hey all!  I'm here too.  I start on December 3.  I already have my tattoos have one more simulation to complete.  Just a heads up to those who haven't had their simulation yet...be mentally prepared to be photographed and tattoed.  I wasn't and it bothered me a lot.  I have peach fuzz!  My autistic 9 year old has taken to kissing my head.  It's very sweet and makes me happy.  I had been trying to hide my hair growth to surprise them at Christmas.  But, I think this is better.  My daughter is excited too.  The toddler has been rubbing my head all along Laughing.    I'm going to have 33 treatments.  I am also trying to keep my nails on my fingers due to Taxol.  Any advice on that??

    solatino...even Target has sports bras.  You shouldn't have much trouble I would think.  Have a good Thanksgiving!

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited November 2012

    Regarding keeping nails, a friend who has gone through this before told me to wear black nail polish during treatment to keep light off your nails, as many of the drugs are light sensitive and that can cause nail loss. I did it throughout my chemo and other than aching under my nails, all mine are fine. A bit brittle and they break easily but they're all in place. A friend bought me black polish and fun sparkly polish to wear on top and I get so many compliments on my spangly nails! Try it. If nothing else, you'll be fashionable.

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited November 2012

    Welcome, BexH! I think it's really cute how your children are reacting to your peach fuzz. Very heartwarming indeed!

    I think I've been on Facebook too much. I keep wanting to "like" posts!

  • internutz1
    internutz1 Member Posts: 33
    edited November 2012

    I'm in! Finished chemo 3 days ago and had my last Neulast shot yesterday. They want me to take 3 weeks off before seeing the MO again for review of blood work and hopefully start rads 2nd or 3rd week of Dec. I have met my RO way back prior to surgery.

    Since I had no SEs from chemo (used cold caps but haven't lost eyebrows or many lashes - could happen later maybe), I hope to sail through rads - but who knows? I like to think the worst and then I am really happy with anything less than horrible.

    Within a couple of weeks after rads finishes, we go to Kuaui so I am super psyhched to get this done with.

    Now I will go read the radiation thread.

  • Outdamnedspot
    Outdamnedspot Member Posts: 297
    edited November 2012

    Just got back from the sims appointment.  Lots of Sharpie and three tiny dots.  D-Day December 5!

    Good thing I am past being embarrassed.  It was a tech in training, a young guy, who I'm sure was about 20,  doing the positioning and marking.  Double checked by the other staff.  Geesh!  

    I started Tamoxifen on November 13 and no side effects...yet.  RO wants me to discontinue it so if there are any SEs it can be determined whether it is the med or the rads.  I'm worried about not taking it as it feels like a safety net.

    Any thoughts?

  • Aruba
    Aruba Member Posts: 543
    edited November 2012

    Loveofcritters, I am doing great..thanks for asking.  In fact overstuffed from the stuffing at the moment with pie and cheesecake waiting till laterLaughing!  You all will do fine too...it will feel like groundhogs day going day after day...but the end will come and you will have this in your rearview mirror.  I will check in here to see if I can help you all out along the way!  Hugs!

  • loveofcritters
    loveofcritters Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2012

    Welcome internutz1. I hope it goes as smoothly as your chemo. Lucky girl! My chemo almost took me under. I go for 11 of 31 today. I am "loobing the boob" 2 times per day with Alra. Also, I am meeting with the lymphedema nurse next week since I had nodes removed during surgery.

    Stay safe everyone during the Black Friday madness. I am not going to hunt for bargains this year.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited November 2012

    Just finished up my chemo also. Mapping is Friday and should start rads the 1st week of December. I have to do 28. I am not looking forward to it as I had rads 8 yrs ago on the other side. I have to get my left TE deflated the day before. It bums me out Frown. No cute holiday dress for me this yr.

  • Aruba
    Aruba Member Posts: 543
    edited November 2012

    Loveofcritters, Where did you find LE speciailist?  I don't have LE at presentbut once checked and did not find many in this area?

  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2012

    Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving! Starting rads 11/26... Is there any preference with Miaderm or Calendula cream for lubing? 

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