Starting Chemo October 2012

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  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited November 2012

    sonson:

    you can get pickled ginger in the aisles at most grocery stores... try getting the white one, the pink is dyed.

    raw, is in the veggie/fruit section... look for a root that looks like a "man" 

    One more tip about pot... smoking with mout sores is near impossible for me... using a water based pipe is better.... or cooking with it.. that will definetly increase appetite.. 

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2012

    Thanks guys for pointing me in the right direction for ginger.  I'll have to go seek some out, but can't do it until after the luncheon unfortunately.  I'm hosting this thing and have to make sure everything goes off without a hitch.  It seems like the more chemo you have the more nausea you have...just something to look forward to I guess.  It wasn't so bad with number one and two.  Number three was a little worse and now number four has been really bad.  I even had them give me extra meds with chemo the other day because I've been nauseated just slightly the entire time since number three so I was really scared about this one.  But knock on wood so far no throwing up...hopefully that will not change.  Zofran is my friend!!

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited November 2012

    Hi all,

    Two days post chemo #3 and the main thing I'm noticing is trouble sleeping. Pretty much waking up at 1:45 AM and that's it for the night. Going to try some melatonin tonight to see if that helps.

    Won't be joining you on rads board - opted for BMX and DIEP reconstruction - 3 months ago today! A long haul - complete with some complications - DVT and infected hematoma that required readmission for 5 days of IV ABX  - but I couldn't be happier with the results.

    BTW - I have Reed's Ginger Candy Chews - think they work pretty well.

    Hoping for minimal SEs for all!

  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited November 2012

    Hmmm maybe that's why I've escaped nausea -- I've been eating ALOT of ginger chews (candy) and lozenges, etc. also there's ginger tea. My heartburn is also bad (for me) but tums alone seems to kick it but that may also be because of the ginger.



    Gotta go get my cream for my head (folliculitis) - its looking pretty awful -- pimple head is not a nickname I need to add to my already long list given (with affection and fun) by my teenaged kids...(baldy, sicky, sleepy, poopyhead, zombie etc.)

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited November 2012

    Here's a new one....my skin hurts. Thinking it's from the neulasta - only when I touch it - anyone else have this?

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited November 2012

    watch your fever... for me it sore skin is an indication i may have fever...

    hope everyone is well... today, day #10  after treatment #3... and i was able to spend most of the day out of my bed...

    ive been so weak

    hope all is well 

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited November 2012

    KRCornett:  I very much understand the fear of steroids, I hear of people ballooning up, eating everything in sight, unable to sleep, etc.  But I have to say I did not experience any of that.  I don't get any pills to take before or after, but they give me a dose of dexamethasone in the IV along with Benadryl and Zofram at the start of each treatment.  Two times so far and I had no side effects from the steroids whatsoever. And no weight gain.  So, everyone is different, just see how it goes, and if you have a problem with it the first time then ask them to reduce the dosage, I'm sure they will do that, as long as you weren't showing any sign of allergic reactions.

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited November 2012

    Caitgrace, I too have pimple head! It's mainly at the nape of my neck and its awful the first week and a half or so after treatment. It itches so bad and just looks awful. My dr far me Clindamycin for it...not sure if its working.



    Day 6 past chemo #3 and still no side effects other than fatigue (which hasn't been bad at all) and my tastebuds are gone. They usually come back by Monday or Tuesday of my 2nd week so I should be good for Thanksgiving! Yay!



    Love to all!!

  • LouBar
    LouBar Member Posts: 84
    edited November 2012

    Hair, or lack thereof.....

    I'm finding my hair situation quite fascinating, always touching my head!  My hair starting falling out the exact day "they" said it would on Day 12 after treatment #1 and although I had cut it short my hubby buzzed it off and slowly but surely it almost all fell out (albeit for these funny patches at the back of my head).  So here I am, Day 11 of treatment #2 and my previously bald top of head is sprouting new growth and doesn't come out when pulled! I expect that as scheduled tomorrow on Day 12 this new growth will fall out......but nonetheless, I find this element of chemo quite fascinating :) 

  • Toots
    Toots Member Posts: 104
    edited November 2012

    ...hair or lack of it

    ......it is definitely fascinating - I was told same things about fallout, but had it shaved a week before I started my treatment because I got it sponsored and managed to raise £1500 for cancer research by doing it, however at the time they had suggested, had no hair to fall out but had an awful 'crawling' under my scalp, only thing that made it feel better was a hot bath and lay back with my head in it.............and at the same time now after second treatment and suffering from a 'crawling' sensation again..............don't know quite how to describe it not an itch or irritation just something moving under the scalp!

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited November 2012

    I never lost all my hair on FEC but most is gone. I lost more after #2 so now at day 4 of #3 I suspect I will lose more again. Only really feel hair nubs in the back. But no crawling sensations.

    Cher- good to meet and chat at FGLB class and welcome!!! It was a busy class for sure.

    Going to curl up with a movie and hide for a few of the dark days ahead. Hugs to all.

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited November 2012

    The hair thing is so weird.....  do you all find yourselves noticing the hair of every person you see all day long?  I never was one to notice much about strangers, but now I see all this long, thick, beautiful hair everywhere I go.....  it makes me a bit sad.  I had mine cut real short the day before chemo started.  The head started itching after only a week or so, and on day 15 it started falling out like crazy.  I knew it would happen but nothing can quite prepare you for that.  It was everywhere!  After 3 days of that, couldn't take any more, so out came the clippers.  Scalp was getting very tender by that time, and it still is, a couple weeks later.  Didn't shave it right to the skin, just buzzed it really short.  So it's still falling out (takes awhile, doesn't it??) but just tiny little pieces.  The lint roller is my friend these days!  Eyebrows & eyelashes still holding on fine.  And the hair on my legs, where I'd be happy to see it gone?  Must be tough, because there's still quite a bit.  I would have to shave my legs if I wanted to wear a dress.  Go figure!

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited November 2012

    Hair...

    ok... well.. i shaved it on day 12 of the first treatment...

    so far... it is growing back slowly... but i have not lost ANY...

    kinda, pissed in a way... my hair was 25 inches long...

    Yes, i too play with my head... A LOT ... the fuzz is like velcro

    when i throw a scarf around my neck... it sticks to my head...

    i hate it...

    yes i notice hair on everybody..

    i miss my long locks caressing my face.. neck... back.. and breasts

    i get "ghost " hair feelings....sigh

    im so grateful to be going thru all of this with you all...

    everytime i come to read... you all are going thru/thinking what i am...

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2012

    Oh my, 25 inches :(

  • Toots
    Toots Member Posts: 104
    edited November 2012

    .........oh and it is so cold, glad it is winter and frosty so at least I can cover up with hats and scarves........and I do have a couple of wigs that are nothing like my hair used to be so I can have a change and they also keep your head and neck warm..........pubic hair all gone and underarms, eyelashes and brows thinned but not gone.......leg hair still growing but nothing on the arms..........strange but quite fascinating.............

    Minimal SEs wished for all and lots of hugs x

  • LouBar
    LouBar Member Posts: 84
    edited November 2012

    Today our local newspaper was a parenting article about guiding kids through mom's cancer.  The book is written by a breast cancer survivor and is called: The Kids' Guide to Mommy's Breast Cancer, by Karyn Stowe  the article states the book has chapters dedicated to the operation / chemo / radiation / finishing treatment.  For those of you with children, thought this may be of interest/help. 

  • Toots
    Toots Member Posts: 104
    edited November 2012

    .......that sounds really good, not that I have young children but my daughter-in-law struggled with trying to explain to the girls about grandma, having cancer - they are 7 and 5, the boys weeren't a problem they are 15 and 14 and a lot more understanding of what is happening...........

  • Noranelly
    Noranelly Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2012

    Hi everyone, how r u all getting on? I am due my 2nd chemo on 21st nov , my birthday week! Not looking forward to it. Have really started to lose my hair it is Falling out everywhere not yet noticeable but a pain as finding it every where. What did others do at this time? Trying to decide whether to just have it shaved? Struggling to accept it, no hair, a wig! Suddenly everything seems more real and scary again. Love noranelly

  • Toots
    Toots Member Posts: 104
    edited November 2012

    Noranelly - I had mine shaved a week before treatment started - just to lose it for a good cause rather than just lose it - had it sponsored.  I had it down a 'no 1' it was still awful when that fell out.......had just got used to having it real short but still get a shock when I look in the mirror - friend said to me - "you are still you hair or not" ........but it is the way you personally feel about it and I am still struggling to accept it - even worse it started growing back in between the first and second treatment and I had bristles there and even that fell out again at roughly the same time after the second treatment, bought a couple of wigs, but prefer my soft jersey turbans...........hair is crowning glory for any woman and it is so hard to accept.............hugs x

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited November 2012

    2 weeks post chemo #2 and I'm having such a bad time with my hands.  Anyone else have this issue?  Nurse warned me about possible "sore mouth and sore hands" and it didn't sound that bad but the reality is so much worse!  It feels like it was burned, like when you drink something too hot and burn your tongue, only all over.  The mouth part was bearable, just very tender for several days, no actual open sores or thrush, and it went away reasonably fast both times.  The hands, kinda the same first time, hurt like if I picked up something hot and burned the skin, only it wasn't really red (weird).  Tender for a week or so then the pain faded, but a few days later the skin started peeling in the places where the pain was worst.  Very odd but the peeling was painless.  But after #2 the hand thing was much worse, started hurting much sooner & much worse, and then fingertips got numb a few days ago, skin is sort of yellowish where the numbness is worst, and now today starting to crack really bad, it sure is painful!!!  Wonder if all that numb skin is going to peel right off?  That's gonna hurt...  Is there anything that can be done to help prevent this?  I have 4 more to go and am getting panicky at the thought that it might keep getting worse each time!

  • alcb70
    alcb70 Member Posts: 166
    edited November 2012

    Jennie- I would definitely let your MO know about your hands. Taxotere can cause neuropathy (numbness) & my hands peel as well. My nails are sore (feels bruised or swollen under the nail), and my fingertips are a bit numb....you're being so severe really should be reported....just so they can figure out whether it's just a severe side effect or an allergic reaction. :)   Hope you feel better!!    ~Andrea

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2012

    Jennie, 

    My hands didn't feel like they had been burned, but I developed an uncomfortable rash which concentrated around my knuckles and fingernails and then about 1-2 weeks later all of the skin on my fingers peeled. It was so annoying and I was so glad when it was finally over. I don't know if this helps make you feel better, but just wanted you to know you weren't alone. I also have numbness and tingling in my left hand. The peeling happened just once throughout my first cycle, and now has gone away, however my taxotere was switched for round #2 with abraxane due to other factors so that may or may not be the reason it stopped.

    xoxo

    Melissa

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2012

    I have another friend from high school (age 30!) diagnosed with a 6 cm lump and she's getting four rounds of AC (no T) and then surgery ... anyone else heard of this regimen? I read an article that said T was shown not to be that beneficial for people that aren't HER2+, but that was from 2007 and I don't know how relevant that is to current standards. Just wondered if anyone had heard of this. 

  • Noranelly
    Noranelly Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2012

    Hi toots thanks for your reply . Big day today had the rest of hair shaved of and my 2nd chemo,please to report all went ok and with no hair I look strange but not too bad! My wig fits better and looks ok with a hat onto. My baby phoebe has tried to pull it off and looks at me with a look that says something has changed. I completely understand how u feel about your hair it is a big part of your self image as a woman, goodness what we have to deal with hey some days i wonder what I did wrong love noranelly

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2012

    Happy Thanksgiving to you all! I am thankful for so much. 

    Love xoxo

  • Toots
    Toots Member Posts: 104
    edited November 2012

    Noranelly - my ministers wife when she found out about my diagnosis said 'God only does these things to people who are really strong because they are the ones that cope' must admit that has stuck with me - after nursing my mother through 3 lots of cancer then when she got the all clear I got my diagnosis, believe me I went through the 'what have I done to deserve all this?' 'Why me?' think we all do at some point....all part of the emotional rollercoaster..........

    The wig - I bought a reel of double sided surgical tape when I got my two from the same place I bought the wigs - when I put them on they are not going anywhere.......and the wind here is awful at the moment - definitely into winter but it will stop phoebe pulling it off............

    Hugs to all x

  • fight4two
    fight4two Member Posts: 146
    edited November 2012

    ughhh.... poke.... i can't believe BC is claiming another young one of us.  This stinks.  It scares me that it seems to be getting us younger and younger.

    Is there any chance your friend is having more chemo after surgery?  I think I've heard of some people doing AC, then surgery, then T.  Part of me wishes that people who were HER2- could stop after AC, since I am just that and just finished my fourth AC. In fact, now that you bring it up, I remember I was supposed to have an appointment with my surgeon midway through chemo.  I wonder if they evaluate midway if you should have the surgery before continuing more chemo?? I should give them a call! The other part of me hopes that T is not ineffective for HER2- folks as I'm about to embark on four rounds of it, and I really don't want to go through it for nothing.  The side effects and the horror that happened to you have really frightened me.

    Well, I guess in a couple of weeks I will be able to tell you if there is any effect on the beast in my breast from T.  Although I didn't notice much change on AC until the third round, so maybe it has a delayed effect.

    Anyhow, let us know if you find out anything about T and HER2- status.  I would love to be done with chemo!  Although I am pretty sure that even if your friend's doctor said it was completely useless, my doctor would not agree and still make me do it.  Unless I see no change from T, I kind of think your friend should push for it (even though more chemo is miserable).  I've been told that since we are so young, we should really be as aggressive as possible up front. Sorry for the diatribe! Lots of strength and well wishes for your friend.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    Poke -- They are having me do AC only, but for 6 dose-dense cycles.  I already had surgery.  For me, it is because of the liver tumors, and Taxol should not be taken with liver problems.  I was HER2-, but ER/PR+.   The MO could be basing it on some other medical history issues and whether or not it is worth the increased problems that the T causes, etc.   Of course, that won't really be the end of things for me as we will be doing hysterectomy & AI's as well.  

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2012

    Thanks for the replies! I haven't heard back from her about why she isn't getting it; I just hope they have a good reason. I can't for the life of me find that article I read yesterday, but of course unless it is the gold standard (which we all know it isn't) the docs will usually follow their own rules no matter what you request. 

    It's almost Thanksgiving, can't I take a break from thinking about cancer for like, just a day? :(

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2012

    P.S. nbnotes: What's an AI? And why do you need the hysterectomy? (I do because I'm BRCA2+, but I was just curious.)

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