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  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2012

    Andrea: Well that timing for fatigue is what I was told to expect, and we started on the same day. And you've also had major surgery in the recent past, so give in to it and be glad you are able to! I'm still plugging along, I'm alone this weekend while hubby and son are away and loving the quiet break. Helped with bush trimming at church early and sorta working on Christmas, getting organized with lists and gathering what I've already bought. It's my favorite season and I don't want to be too tired as we get closer and cause myself stress. Have to be ready a couple weeks early since we are taking a ski trip and we ship some gifts and ski clothing ahead. Finish boosts on 12/21 and we leave 12/22! Trip was booked the week before the @#%! hit the fan on my health....drs know my plans and were great about moving things along without delay. RO mentioned the possibility of skipping the boosts but they are included in my schedule, we'll see. Don't care if I'm up to skiing or not, it'll be fantastic to be done with daily rads and get away. Ok now I'm sleepy now that I've sat down for a break!

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited November 2012

    heidismom, my RO keeps saying no SEs till the third week! Ha, whatever.

    I'm looking a little pink now too, but have my fingers crossed that it won't get any worse. I hope we're both one of the lucky ones who sail through rads! Your ski trip sounds wonderful. Where are you going? We have great skiing here in Utah, but I have to admit, I've never done it, cause I have a paralyzing fear of heights. My husband loves it though!

    My daughter is hosting the Thanksgiving dinner this year, to give me a rest. I've done it for so many years, it'll be strange not having it here, but I'm not complaining. I don't think I could handle the cooking right now anyway. I'd probably lie down for a nap, and burn everything! 

  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2012

    Andrea,

    My family has started a new Christmas tradition, a ski trip, now that our children are 20 and 17 and we live away from family.  We spent last Christmas at Deer Valley, it was perfection.  My brother lives in Park City.  Utah is gorgeous, you're very fortunate.

    This year we're trying Whistler.  Non-refundable at this point, so I'm nervous about having any issues to jeapordize this.  Sanitizing like crazy and browbeating my husband to be a better germaphobe.   Taking care of my skin.   My RO said not to indulge in the hot tub after skiing.  I'm sure I wouldn't go near it with a ten foot pole!  Even keeping my showers cooler now to prevent irritation.

    Thanksgiving will be at my home, and my mother will be here to help.   I'm not a great cook (neither is Mom truthfully), so we have no problem taking shortcuts.  We have Trader Joe's and they have everything I need.    I'd rather watch football and take a walk than be in the kitchen.

    I have radiation at 10 am tomorrow, so weird!  They tried to get me to take one of the appointments in the 7:00 hour that nobody wanted, but I didn't take the bait.  What else do you have per chance?  OH, 10:00, thank you!   I don't know how they'll get everyone in and out by noon, and same thing on Wed.   They'll be hustling us.  Worth it for everyone to have 4 days off though.  Heavenly.





  • aliyahgirl
    aliyahgirl Member Posts: 23
    edited November 2012

    Hi all - I'm so happy for all of you that have finished or are near done. 

    Yay!  I finally started rads on thurs after a two-week delay due to scheduling.  So far so good re: the fatigue.  However, I noticed swelling on the lumpectomy side of my breast.  The Nurse told me there's "a little" lymphedema there and told me to massage upwards towards my armpit to get the lymph moving.  Also to wear a very supportive bra (at night also).  Has anyone had this?  Does it stay to the end of rads?  Does it get worse?  I'm full size to say the least and can't imagine getting bigger!  Hope to see the RO on tomorrow.

    Junif, thanks for the suggestion about the tshirt under your bra.  It would be lovely to hope that I won't need it but I'm surely filing it away just in case...  Also the salt soak from Tazzy. 

    The RO dept scheduling so messed up and one woman told me she's been seen on time twice in two weeks.  Each of the two times I've gone they've been late - day one they couldn't find my chart, had three people looking for it and found it an hour after my appointment time - was not a happy camper.  Day 2 was 35 minutes late.  Does this happen to anyone else or is it just my not-good fortune? 

    The dept is closed Thurs/Fri.  On one hand I'm happy to have four days off till next Monday but on the other hand, I keep wondering if any little bad cells are just as happy for the opportunity to get a little frisky (G-d forbid)...

    Have a great rest of the weekend and don't get wiped out with all the advanced cooking!  I say we should all be told by our ROs that in their best med judement, Thanksgiving is a time to put our feet up, eat bonbons, and just be pampered. 

  • loveofcritters
    loveofcritters Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2012

    I haven't had the fatigue set in yet in any major way. Just finished 7/31 but I have this kind of joylessness and lack of motivation that may be what it is. I just don't care a bit about Thanksgiving, Christmas, shopping or cooking. That is not like me in the past at least. This year changed so many relationships that I thought were good and turned out not-so-good, so this may be because of the whole cancer episode. Anyone else feeling this way?

    aliyahgirl: I have some swelling too that I read is lymphedema and I am going to talk to the doctor tomorrow. The doctor said last Monday he would get me in touch with the lymphedema nurse who would tell me what to do, but I waited all week and no one called. Since I go on my lunch break I would be so put out if that happened at my center like you experienced with the late appts. I did have one that was really late so I know how you feel. Are you trying to fit it around a job too?

    heidsmom and aliyahgirl: Did I hear the nurse right and have off only Thanksgiving and not the day after? I am going to ask again about that...but I am sure she told me I have to come in on Friday.

    Anyone else get the insurance bill and find out the center charged them for a radiation treatment at over $25,000 on a day 2 weeks before you even started rads? Yep, I will have to go to battle tomorrow right when I need some TLC.

  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2012

    love:  I have Thurs and Fri off, but have to go in today, Sunday, so will have 4 days on and 4 days off.   Every center is different of course, but worth checking.

    I completely understand the lack of motivation feeling, I am up and down.  It's all natural, we've had some shocking news and our body isn't really our own right now, and friends react differently than we'd imagine.  I've had way too many people turn it into something about themselves...most saying it's past time for their own mammos.  

    Hang in there.

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited November 2012

    Loveofcritters, I only have Thanksgiving day off too. I go back in Friday morning for a treatment, but that's okay with me. I don't want to drag this out any longer, even by a single day!



    I'm feeling quite tired, that same feeling as when you know you're coming down with something. Sure hope it's the rads SE, and that I'm not catching a bug!





  • patti3796
    patti3796 Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2012

    Good Morning Ladies. Back from my Sunday appt....I took the 8 am appt When i was getting up i wish i had said later ( heidismom 10 sounded much better) But it worked well as I hit the grocery store after and picked up the turkey and fixings and no crowd!!



    Andrea I had some fatigue early...a couple days of exhaustion....after resting felt better and the fatigue has not hit again....I think the big thing is for us to listen to our bodies and rest when we need.



    The site I go to is excellent in terms of timing. When I walk in I sign in on the computer. Go and change. And I am normally called within 5 minutes. I had asked as many times there are people waiting and they take me....the technicians said some arrive up to a half hour early...but they take you based on your appt time not when you arrive.





    Have a good Sunday

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited November 2012

    sonson, I'm glad you mentioned your thread because my chemo brain was *not* seeing it this AM. I was just about to create a new one and probably cause confusion.

    xtina, what's the name of the bamboo bra? I've heard nice things about bamboo fabrics' breathability and stuff so I'd be interested. I start rads sometime in December.

    Deoderant?  I found Lafe's - https://www.lafes.com/all_products.php?osCsid=6s6t9hhmhgprp7iqn02pminkk4 - If I recall my research, they got the safest or one of the safest ratings in Environmental Working Groups beauty products database. No parabens, no aluminum, etc... I got the solid stick and it works well, not great but well, and seems almost unscented to my nose. 1% of their profits go to support breast cancer prevention. I get mine at vitacost.com

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012
  • Summer_Girl
    Summer_Girl Member Posts: 69
    edited November 2012

    Hi All and congrats to Tazzy for finishing.  I finished treatment three weeks ago, pretty much signed off and stepped forward in life.  I consider breast cancer in my past, however, I did want to provide an update.

    The fatigue never hit during my four weeks of radiation, it did hit at the very end.  The good news was that I was done and I knew it would get better.  Post raditation three weeks, I went high energy Jitterbug dancing Friday and Saturday night, but I spent all day Saturday and Sunday (today) lounging around tired.   So the good news is that I definitely have some good energy, but when I expend it all, it takes a day to re-energize.   I was hoping the tired would be gone by now, but I'll allow myself a little longer.  

    The skin is completely healed.  My scar is about three inches long, but it's really not noticeable from a distance.  I did start going to an acupuncturist 10 ten days after I was done with radiation and wow, I had great results (he is very good, some aren't).  He did say the surgeon did a perfect job on the suture.  The first morning after the first treatment, all swelling in my breast was gone, and I mean gone.  I am continuing the treatments to reduce any scar tissue so that I can have my implant replaced (so that's it's the same size as my other breast).  I know many women have a problem with scar tissue and replaced implants, so I am doing what I can to prevent the scar tissue.  The acupuncturist is giving me great results and when I saw my RO last week, she thought I shouldn't have problems (this may be part of the benefit of the four week radiation protocol).  However, the acupuncturist did say, that he usually doesn't see such dramatic results so quickly; he commented it's my positive attitude (really) that is helping.  Hey, that made me feel even better! 

    So, on that note, I am signing off the boards again.  I am happiest when I put this behind me and focus on my good life.  I don't think about cancer much anymore (thank goodness), but I will get the semi-annual mammograms, so I guess I'll have to think about this twice a year.  That is two times too many for me.

    DX 6/11/12 “Stage 0-1” 3.2 cm PLCIS(90%) + DCIS (10%) Grade 3 Comedo with Mircroinvasion (Right Breast)

    Surgery 7/20/12 Segmental Masectomy , 3.2cm, sentinal node biopsy, clear margins, clear nodes

    Radiation (European/Canadian protocol 20 treatments)

    Hormone Therapy I will forego any Tamoxifen/Hormone Therapy

  • llr010200
    llr010200 Member Posts: 67
    edited November 2012

    Heidismom, The 2weeks in 2weeks out rule is about right for the timing of my fatigue...maybe just a tad sooner. I started rads 4 months after ending chemo/2 months after bmx so that may have contributed.



    Andrea, I worked full time during rads but about 1-1/2 hours after treatment I wanted a nap as well. As some have said listen to your body moreso than the RO and respond accordingly.

  • terrikoala
    terrikoala Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    Just started my 3 week Canadian protocol yesterday (Sunday) due to Thanksgiving holiday. After the treatment they went over a great book they gave me with all the info I would ever need and a journal and lots of other great stuff.  It will be very useful. Everyone is so nice and helpful at the Rads center and they take really good care of their patients and that is a blessing.

    I was originally supposed to get the full 6 weeks but when I finished the simulation and they gave me my calendar of appts I was pleasantly surprised to see the shortened rads schedule. I had asked my RO if I would qualify but I never really got an answer so this was great news


    They talked to me about the  swelling, fatigue and irritation  and I wonder how much less of this I will have due to the shortened treatment. One thing was the underwire issue. I have always been DD and am now DDD and  I always wear very good industrial strength underwire bras to keep the girls UP.  With the shortened schedule  I just wonder if I really need to go to another kind of bra unless I really get irritated.  I really cannot afford a new wardrobe of bras for short time use and looking for advice.  Underwires have come a long way and have a lot more padding around them. Most of mine do not press under the breast. I already use corn starch and/or Zeasorb  AF under my breasts to keep from getting a rash especially in the warmer months. Its always 'wet' under there. She said to keep using that daily but still said I should not wear underwires. ADVICE???

    Thanks


    Terri

  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2012

    Hi terrikoala! I am scheduled to start the Canadian protocol on 11/26. Will be nice to share our experience with each other. My biggest concern is fatigue.

    What moisturizer are you using?  The Rads center provided me with Calendula.

    Diane

  • xtina
    xtina Member Posts: 60
    edited November 2012

    Allurbadday  - The bamboo sports bras were made by Bally's (like the fitness place Bally's) and I just found them at our Meijer - it's a regional Target type of store.  They were seriously like my best purchase thus far through this whole thing!

  • terrikoala
    terrikoala Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    Hey Diane,

    Glad to see we are almost on same schedule! They were going to give me a sample of Aquaphor but when I told her I already use Eucerin dry skin cream  on my neck and chest area  she said to use that and if it did not do the job to try Aquaphor. I had already gotten info on several creams including the one you got and there are many choices. Seems each RO has their own favorite.  I am not sure how much we will need  with the shortened process but its  good to be prepared and moisturizing the chest/breasts is always a benefit even when  not dealing with cancer/rads. I tend to cream my body all over after showering more and more as I age so now I will just pay more attention to the left 'girl'. Lets keep in touch with our progress ok?

    Terri

  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2012

    @ terrikoala - Terri, def keep in touch with progress....seems like we have alot in common... see you are retired from telecom biz... thats the industry Im in for 35 years.    FYI a Winter 2012 rads thread has started... we can start posting there... Diane

  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2012

    Terri,  my RO gave me a prescription for Radiaplex gel for 3x day , main ingredient is aloe, but he also mentioned Aquaphor for exercise when I mentioned the bra rubbed a little.  Messy greasy stuff so I'd only want to use that when I had to, not constantly.  Keep up the moisturizing!

  • Aruba
    Aruba Member Posts: 543
    edited November 2012

    Fall rad grads...starting on Arimidex?  Come join in the Newbie to Arimidex thread http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/78/topic/796582

    Good luck to those finishing up rads...keep mositurizing!!

  • terrikoala
    terrikoala Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    I was with AT&T for 30 years  at Eastern Region HQ in Wash, DC and then we moved to Oakton, Va. 

    I will go to the winter 2012 thread.

    Terri

  • Outdamnedspot
    Outdamnedspot Member Posts: 297
    edited November 2012

    Finally, got my simulation appoijntment...Thursday.  Can't wait to get this going.  Will have 16 (Canadian Protocol) treatments.  Apparently my RO was involved with that study, so feel reassured that 16 will be enough to nuke 'em good.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited November 2012

    I have my planning meeting on Monday and will get my tattoos and a CT scan and who knows what else. It'll be six and a half week, which I'm not looking forward to. I've hit the "I'm ready for this to be all over" stage. But six weeks is better than the length of timefor chemo. Hopefully it'll go quickly!

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012

    lifeonitsside:  You are so right when you said you've hit the "I'm ready for this to be over" stage.  I was exactly the same.   You  can see the end but it seems such a long way away.   But before you know it, it will be over and you can start healing and looking forward to getting on with life. 

    Well I am off tomorrow to fly to England and see my family - I need their hugs.

    Wishing all of you minimal SE's and some happy and sunshine in your days.

    Love & hugs xxx

  • naddine2u
    naddine2u Member Posts: 9
    edited November 2012

    Today was 22/36 and I have been hit by the fatigue bus...actually, I believe it even backed up and ran over me again!  Not enough time in the day with a 5 hour commute, work and 3 kids.  Skin still in good shape, so that's something.  Anyone out there make it all the way through with little to no skin breakdown? 

  • Nanka
    Nanka Member Posts: 97
    edited November 2012

    I also had a sunburn but my breast tissue was also very sensitive. Did anyone have this, please, anyone? :)

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012

    nanka:   I had surgery - mx - 2 months before rads and got very burnt... now the skin is peeling.  They said that because I had chemo and surgery my skin was more sensitive and more likely to react.   My incision is very tender and where the nerves have been torn I get sharp shooting pains along it.   My RO wasn't at all surprised at this so can only go with what he says ?!

  • Junif
    Junif Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2012

    Nanka--I finished radiation a little over a week ago and my breast is very sensitive.  I am peeling what looks more like brown sludge (toxic waste perhaps!) and what remains underneath we are now referring to as BC Pink (it would make a good crayola color!). 

    Naddine--I so admire you're stamina for making that commute..you are amazing!!

    Tazzy--you so deserve a very special trip to your family--have a great flight and revel in all the love coming your way!

    Happy Thanksgiving!

  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited November 2012

    I'm halfway through my 36 radiation treatments, 8 weeks post final chemo. After chemo my sense of taste returned to normal but now it has wandered off again--not to that terrible chemo taste in everytning, but there is a more subtle off-taste to everything. My significant other suggested it had to do with a cold I had been having, but the effect is hanging on so that the cold theory seems less and less likely.

    Did anyone else have taste distortion during radiation?

  • terrikoala
    terrikoala Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    Outdamnedspot,

    So happy to hear you have joined those of us fortunate enough to qualify for the shortened therapy but I still am not really sure why I qualified and will ask RO next time I see her. She sees patients once a week after a Rads session but this is a short week so may not see her until next week. Last time I saw her was at second simulation session and I was still scheduled for 6 weeks so was quite surprised when my schedule showed 3 weeks.

    I wish more could have the Canadian. I think more and more  USA RO's are getting on the Canadian bus thankfully.

    I was surprised  that you are taking Tamox before you have your Rads. I was told by RO and MO that it is done after Rads. I am 66 and very post menopausal so not sure I can handle the effects of the Tamox and may not do it. I can't take any more sweating/flashing. Can you tell me why they have you on it now?

    Terri

  • terrikoala
    terrikoala Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    Soltantio,

    I posted this either here or on Winter (brain cramp). Bra mate pads are soft and keep underwire away from skin and I will use for Rads irritation as I have no intention of giving up underwires.  I have used the pads for years for sweating/rashes and the Rads techs are going to share the documentation I gave them on the pads.  Check them out on Bramates.com.

    I also read that mini pads work too.

    Terri

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