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  • cvmarilyn
    cvmarilyn Member Posts: 179
    edited November 2012

    Hi All - I am new to this group :) Just finished Chemo about 2 weeks ago and had my first appt with the radiologist yesterday, and will go on the 28th for tats etc... happy, happy, joy, joy. So.... as people that have been there I would LOVE to know anything and everything about rads. Anything that you wish you'd known? THANK you so much in advance.

    Marilyn

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012

    Thanks everyone - I am so excited.   Hard to believe that after a year (almost) it will be over.  Hang in there everyone... it really does end - woo hoo !!!

  • Junif
    Junif Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2012

    Congrats Tazzy!  PAEagles I found the last half of Rads really difficult to get through! 

    The last week of Rads and now the week after, my underboob has really been sensitive (and peeling) so I purchased some men's white T-shirts 2 sizes too small and where one with my bra on top.  Not something you will find on the runway of Victoria Secrets, but it means I go through the day more comfortable! 

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2012

    Thinking of you today Tazzy!  Are you planning to do anything special to celebrate?  If it hadn't been for Sandy, tomorrow would have been my last treatment.  This is the first time I can remember wanting Monday to hurry and get here! lol
    Junif, that is a great idea!  I can't stand to wear a bra now and I can't go without one.  I think that might work for me and I can wear it to work underneath my sweaters.  We are stopping a W*mart on the way home so I'm going to grab a pack of them and get them washed tonight.  

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited November 2012

    Welcome cvmarilyn. I started rads last week and its not bad. The only thing so far that I wish I had known going in was that it is a much more solitary experience than chemo. The staff is wonderful, but they leave during treatments, so now I bring a podcast to listen to so I can ignore the equipment. It has made a big difference. So far, no SEs and the treatments only take ten minutes.

  • Moonwillow1010
    Moonwillow1010 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2012

    Doesn't anyone else seem to be bothered with the fact that this sympton and that sympton are always "normal"! Normal? Seriously? But I guess it's better to know it's part of the journey.

    cvmarilyn...things I wish I'd known. Please know that I have completed 15/33. Almost half way. I wish I would have known HOW tired they meant I will be. I started getting wiped out after the 3rd treatment. So tired. On a bit of a funny things I wish I had known...how many cute men there are as radiation techs! Nothing like going in and coming out to a very attractive male offering his assistance to get you off the table! SurprisedWink

    Good luck and have no fear. Just take it one day at a time.

  • Moonwillow1010
    Moonwillow1010 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2012

    Doesn't anyone else seem to be bothered with the fact that this side effect and that side effect are always "normal"! Normal? Seriously? But I guess it's better to know it's part of the journey.

    cvmarilyn...things I wish I'd known. Please know that I have completed 15/33. Almost half way. I wish I would have known HOW tired they meant I will be. I started getting wiped out after the 3rd treatment. So tired. On a bit of a funny things I wish I had known...how many cute men there are as radiation techs! Nothing like going in and coming out to a very attractive male offering his assistance to get you off the table! SurprisedWink

    Good luck and have no fear. Just take it one day at a time.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012

    paeagles... I can only imagine how infuriating it would be to have tx delayed... boy I would be pissed off at that one.

    moonwillow:  funny you mention that about good looking male techs.   I had to be 'adopted' by another rad unit for the last week of rads and one of the techs was a guy - pretty cute.   Was funny as I walked into the centre the other day, fully clothed and he walked out.  All I could think was he'd seen me in all my glory the day before with nothing on top... weird.  Should say I am old enough to be his mother too Wink

    I feel like a kid at Christmas this morning. Meeting a friend for lunch, then off to see some work colleagues before nuking.  Me and DH are going out for a meal tonight to celebrate.

    gentle healing hugs to all xxx

  • loveofcritters
    loveofcritters Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2012

    Hey Tazzy- Just wanted to congratulate you too...and wish you the best as you move forward. I have loved your avatar and can picture you saying the things that you do with a twinkle in your eye. Celebrate! I sure need that gentle, healing hug....right back at you, love.

    cvmarilyn- It goes quick. The nurses are with you for just a few seconds each day getting the machine aligned with the marks/tats so that isn't a problem. But the travel time to and fro is tedious. And of course undressing, locking it up, dressing back in record time (I go on my lunch...like a speed demon). I wish I had known that the treatment times at most facilities have banker's hours and it is difficult to do with a job. You also have to see the doctor once per week and that is additional time away from work, and your job may not be understanding. So far I had 5/31 treatments and little side effects. We will link arms with you and all get through it together, ok? Did you read the suggested salt water soak for down the road from Tazzy? If not I have a copy here I will post for you.

  • nancedawg
    nancedawg Member Posts: 81
    edited November 2012

    Moonwillow, I do think while I am in the middle of my 8 zaps each day that they are surely dammaging as much as they are curing, but the options are minimal, so this is what we do.  My last day is tomorrow and I am crispy, itchy and rashy.  I am just glad it is done.  On with life.

  • patti3796
    patti3796 Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2012

    Tazzy =  CONGRATS on finishing !!!

    Cowpower ==   I had asked about why they did not have music in the radiation room where I go and they said everything they bring in breaks in less than a month as a result of the radiation.   So you may want to check at your site...as I would hate to see the unit you are using ruined.   I do agree about it being a solitary experience.    That word really hit home with me...as it is solitary when having it.    Also with chemo there are so many outward signs...with the radiation there is not so at least for me the support from family/friends is not as great.

    Have a good evening    Patti

  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2012

    I have had 7/28, no fatigue so far beyond the usual midday slump, lol, but I didn't go thru chemo either. Skin is holding up fine, lotioning 3x day and giving the area air when I can. No male techs at my place, darn. they do have music in the room, not loud. But I have a calming go-to playlist in my head. But honestly it's such a short time the girls are out of the room. My center is close to home so I feel fortunate that its not a big bite of time. Imagine a long commute would contribute to fatigue. Word is getting around about my situation and I find myself downplaying it and reassuring everyone. Just want to feel and be treated normally, except at home of course, where a little TLC is welcome!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited November 2012

    Tazzy, congrats on getting to PFR! I had 21 of 25 today. Can't believe how fast it has gone. Not too burned at this point. The reddest parts are a spot on my sternum right where my tattoo is, and a spot on my underarm that must be under the corner of the bolus. The worst is the rash and itchiness, but it's liveable, and I've been told it will all clear up. And my chest and shoulder muscles have gotten pretty tight and sore, so I am stretching whenever I remember to. No underboob to worry about, anyway. I am using Miaderm and Cortaid in the morning after treatment, and adding Aquaphor at bedtime. Someone mentioned that compared to the knocked-out feeling from chemo fatigue, rads fatigue is more sleepiness. That is true for me.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited November 2012

    Soltanio - sounds like you and I are gonna go through this at the same time. Just met my RO this week and will start beginning of December. I'm lucky - the hospital is close to me and they have a van that will pick me up. And I'm not working so I don't have that issue. Good luck!

  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2012

    Soltantio, can't help you with bustiness or commute questions, but as far as meeting the RO, mine discussed length of treatment, risks (low), statistics, side effects. Nice guy and I like him. Every tues is dr visit day right after treatment, short visit to discuss any concerns and he looks at the area. Next appt was for tattoos and fitting for "shell", and tattoos felt like less than a tiny prick, expected more, they're tiny and sorta blue. Next appt was for simulation and that was fine, and then a sitdown with nurse...she went over scans and showed me exactly what and where all was happening, skin care prescribed and an afternoon nap encouraged. They do like appts to be same time every day, but mine has been moved at my request when an earlier time opened. Very kind and capable people, and fun too. Course I've got many left in front of me, but busy time of year will help make time fly, I should be done on 12/21. Oh and The time actually on the table alone getting the zap is very short. First couple times I needed to calm myself just a little, but no longer. And techs are in next room watching on camera if you need them. Good luck to you!

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2012

    soltantio--You ask great questions!  Yes, I go the same time every day.  Those poor ladies (no guys in my center except the Docs) start at 6 am everyday and the last appointment is scheduled for 7 and we all know how scheduled times never work out right.  Let them know what time works best for you.  The first couple of appointments I had were just when they could fit me in.  Then they were able to give me a time in the morning so I could go before I start work.
    Music in the room seems to be whatever the center you're going to does.  My girls have a nice boom box with an iPod dock with a good mix of music on it.  They also let me dock my iPhone if I want to "rock out" while I'm in there.  A usual treatment day goes pretty fast.  They get quick at setting you up and then leave the room and go to their control center which is just outside of the treatment room.  There is a camera on you and you can talk to them if you need to so I never felt too abandoned. I generally hear 2 full songs while they are taking pictures to make sure they have me lined up right and then doing the treatment.  

    34/36, I'm in the homestretch now!!!

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited November 2012

    Patti-  Thanks for the warning on the ipod at rads.  Think I will stick to the "oldies" they pipe in (or maybe use my husband's ipod?Smile). Off to session 6/33.  Hope everybody has a good day.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012

    YIPPEE… YIPPEE….YIPPEE – Officially I am done.   I don’t have to drive anywhere today and do not intend to either.   They did tell me for the next few weeks to keep treating my skin as though I am in tx.   So keeping on with the saline soaks, moisturising and more moisturising.  

    Nancedawg:   Yay… you are finished today… it’s a great feeling. 

    Heidismom:   You are so right, we are on our own for such a short time – I used to close my eyes and transport myself to a hammock on a beach in Panama we visited a few years ago.   Did that keep me calm. 

    Indigo:  After surgery and before rads my mobility was pretty much back to normal.   Now not so much and I still do my stretching exercises.   When I explained that tightness feeling to my RO he said that it is normal and likely a little swollen inside from rads.   But like all this crap it goes !

    Soltanio: welcome.   Dunno about other facilities but my appts were different times every day.  I was fortunate that I didn’t have far to travel.  Good luck.   Just moisturise and use the saline soaks.   Those soaks really soothe it.   And moisturise some more !

    Lifeonisside:  Good luck.  And remember moisturise Wink

    Gentle healing hugs to all xx

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2012

    I've just been told that I'm now done with chemo treatment and it's on to radiation I go.  I haven't gotten an appointment yet so I don't know when I will start with radiation, but am assuming that it will be within the next three weeks which puts me around 12/5 for my first appointment or treatment.  Any one have any suggestions on what to ask, what kind of creams to use, what to wear for my first appointment, any special types of bras that work best once the skin starts getting a little sore?  Anything types of information like that would be very helpful for a newbie like me!

    I feel like we may need a new winter thread because all you ladies are finishing up, but at the same time I feel like we could use all of your wisdom also since all you guys are just now finishing up.  If someone started a winter thread would you guys wander over there to help us newbies out?  Or should we just stick here?  What are your thoughts on this?  I'm asking all the gals who are finishing up and all the newcomers as well. -- Sonya

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2012

    Oh also Tazzy could you explain what are the saline soaks?  What goes in it?  I'm assuming salt, but how much salt vs. water, what kind of salt?  Or is it really not that scientific?

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012

    sonson:  saline soaks.   Boil 1 litre of water, put in bowl with 2tsps of salt.  Allow to come to room temperature. Soak a face cloth or something similar and place on nuked area for 10-15 mins.  Resoak if necessary.  It really does help soothe the area.  I just used normal table salt.   

    If you want to start a winter thread or if there is one I am more than happy to hop over and help out anyway I can.  Good luck. Remember moisturise and moisturise some more.  

    hugs to all xxxx

  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited November 2012

    Life--

    They send a van?? How cool is that! My center said that is I had transportation problems, they would hook me up with their social worker and the local cancer society, but a VAN! Very cool. Extremely helpful. I have the car and don't need that service, but yours is the first place that I have heard of that has transportation available. Very nice.

    New folks--

    Welcome. Your RO or nurse will tell you what they like you to use on your skin, so I'd avoid stocking up on what any of us are using, as doctor preferences seem to vary from place to place. Don't hesitate to buy what they recommend; a little extra cash on that stuff can save you a lot of trouble down the road. The stuff me doc recommended, Radiagel, was available at the hospital pharmacy for about $35 a tube. I bought my first one there, but I just ordered the second one (which will probably be all I need) through Amazon for about $20 plus $5 shipping.

    I have found that most of the esoteric medical supplies, like radiation creams or gels, silicone wound dressings, etc can be found and bought at better prices by using the internet. If I can get a package of the stuff (even empty), I use the product code as well as it's name in my search.

  • loveofcritters
    loveofcritters Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2012

    I was late getting back to work today from lunch. They had to readjust and take some "pictures" with the same machine that does the zapping. I don't know why so soon they changed the beams by 1/2 centemeter. Anyone else hear of that? I just had 6/31. If the cancer doesn't get me and the radiation spares my life...I will probably meet my maker in an auto accident flying there and back on my lunch! Yell

  • heidismom
    heidismom Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2012

    Loveofcritt....two days ago on my day 6 they did same thing, said they do it every week to make sure all ok. Didn't take long. Be careful out there driving; you've been thru so much and don't want to mess up now! This is the homestretch!

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012

    Love:  as heidi said they take x-rays every week for any tweaking.   You know it was funny you said that about the crash.  Driving home yesterday from my last one, smile on my face, I passed a semi and thought wouldn't that be ironic that I was killed in a crash... weird thoughts eh?   I didn't dwell on it.   Is your company sympathetic to what you are doing - will they understand being a little late now and again?  Can you make the time up?   (((hugs))))

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2012

    Yes Love.  I think it's because as we get nuked, they want to make sure swelling or shrinkage doesn't throw off your numbers/markers.
    They had to adjust my sticker for my boost because certain parts are healing and there is less swelling but OTHER parts are still swollen and rock hard.
    Rad discomfort reminds me of breastfeeding.  It's been a LONG TIME since those days but some things you never forget!
    There goes another theory... I was young when I had my kids and I breastfed, those are things that are suppose to help keep BC at bay Undecided

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited November 2012

    Congratulations on finishing Tazzy! It'll be so nice not having to drive to appointments everyday! Hope you have a wonderful evening celebrating!

    Had 8 of 25 today. I told them my skin and muscles feel tight, and was told it was too early for any SEs. Is that true? They thought it was related to my TEs, oh hated things.

    And DH sometimes drives like a maniac to get me to my appointment after work. I always tell him I am not going through all the surgeries and discomfort of BC to die in an automobile accident!

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012

    Andrea: I had tightness and tenderness within a week of rads.  When I asked my MO he said that it was quite normal - I dont have TE's though.   He said that the rads can make the inside of our chest swollen, hence the tightness.   That was his opinion for my case. 

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited November 2012

    Thanks for letting me know that. I felt brushed off when I asked. Having TEs would make it feel even tighter, I would think, and it would have been nice if they had at least acknowledged that some people have SEs before 3 weeks. They acted like the 3 weeks was set in stone! 

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited November 2012

    Dont you hate being brushed off like that.  I mean we know our bodies better than anyone.   Hang in there.   I have carried on with my after surgery exercises, but have certainly lost some mobility since rads. 

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