Starting Chemo October 2012
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Just home from chemo session #3 and finishing up last 1.5 hours of cold caps. They had trouble with my IV again and had to restart it. Turns out that the best vein every single time is the big one in my elbow. So I'll be hot packing the blown site farther down in my wrist.
Feeling fine. Will take compaine before I got to bed and take it prophylactically for three days. Hope for same results as previously. Fingers crossed!
Hugs to all. Hope for sweet dreams and minimal SEs.
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halfcan great that they managed LGFB and chemo schedules. I had my LGFB book out on how to put on makeup before the concert Monday night. I am not used to wearing anything but mascara and blush a couple of times a year!
Feeling good today, day 2 post chemo though who knows about tomorrow!
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BethBV - we must be on the same schedule chemo 2 day 7 but woke up feeling much better - not sick and shaking like I was yesterday.........even managed breakfast at 05:30! It gets better honey.........and diabetes will sort after everything else...........do so hope you start feeling better soon and the 6 nibbles a day instead of three meals does work to level things off...........but it is so difficult trying a balancing act between the two.........
............hope you find some silver linings in those clouds soon.........hugs x
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Thanks all for the feedback. I am/feel too young to be taking steriods and I just don't want to! I'm delighted that all of you have had minimal/manageable side effects. Having said that, has anyone heard of any alternatives? I want to do/take everything they say to fight the cancer but I guess I'm leery of taking a raft of ancillary drugs. Thanks all. Best wishes to you.
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i smoke pot...helps A LOT
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Hello Everyone,
Sorry I haven't checked in for a while - had my third FEC chemo today, so half way! Glad to hear that most people are getting through this without too many problems.
It's funny - I checked in because I am getting so frustrated by weight gain - and am (sorry to say) glad to hear that I'm not the only one. I find it really frustrating, as I'm not overeating (compared to previously anyway), and am making a conscious effort to go for lower calorie options (skim milk etc) and to try and go for a walk most days. It's like a slap in the face, on top of the whole cancer, surgery, chemo, hairloss onslaught, I feel, and it's making me feel uncomfortable all the time.
Any suggestions welcome, and hugs to all,
Ali xx
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mumtothree - really trying to watch my weight, but I normally go swimming any day been told I am not allowed to use the pool due to risk of infection............what are the alternatives? No I don't want to go walking fine in the summer but here it is wet, snowy and cold..............hubby recently bought me a WII great alternative maybe...........when I am well enough........trying the yoga - gentle but still exercise.............hoping it will keep things under control a little............
celine - hubby keeps suggesting it - but not tried YET!
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its not for everyone... but it is a useful herb in many forms
i feared my past use would mean it wouldnt work as well...
but nope
nausea hits... i take one tiny toke.. and pooof, it takes the edge off.
hard to smoke with mouth sores tho ... i may try cooking with it soon
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Celine - used to love hash brownies when a lot younger - cure the craving for chocolate at the same time hahahaha
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KR-I think the steroids are to help with any possible allergic reactions to the chemo. I know they also give Benadryl, but it also depends on the type of chem that you are given. Not everyone gets the benadryl too. So I'm not sure what kind of alternative they could give for allergic reactions. I was really nervous about the steroids too. I thought I would want to eat everything in site like some of the women are saying on here. Everyone is different, they truly are. Maybe you should wait to see how you react and if you are one of the ones that want to just eat the entire refrigerator then next round ask your onc for an alternative. Don't just assume that you are going to eat everything in site. You are already very conscious of your food intake so that will help you as well. Plus your taste buds will most likely change. Very few people have been lucky enough to not have them change. Those things that you used to call your comfort food will no longer hold any appeal. They will taste like cardboard or bleach and you'll just look at them and say to yourself why even bother putting it in your mouth when you know it won't taste good. Then when you really get hungry you will finally seek something out. So after the nausea wears off you have that to look forward to.
Celine-I have thought of using pot...does it help with the cardboard taste? I know it will help with the nausea, but after about 10 days I'm no longer nauseated, but I just can't taste anything so I don't really eat much knowing that it's not really going to taste good. If I knew that it was going to taste good that would change my mind. So just wondering. I'm not against the idea, I'm just wondering how much it will help before I go buying something illegal!!
Toots-Man, I wished I craved chocolate! I used to love that stuff. Used to call myself a chocoholic even, and right now I can't really stand it. It has a really weird taste and I'm always so disappointed when I do have some because I know it won't taste good. So I've given it up for now. I hate to be disappointed. It's like that with many foods right now. I've stopped buying many things that I used to love just so I won't be disappointed in the taste. I hate that.
On a good note, my doctor has decided to stop my chemo at treatment number four which I had yesterday! Yippee! I can't say how excited I am about this. So in about three weeks or so I will be headed to the radiation part of my therapy. Which I'm also nervous about. I've been reading the rad boards and some of the horror stories over there. I know everyone is different and I won't know how my body will react until I get into it, but it still sounds scary. For now I just have to get through the next 10 days with minimal side effects. I hope you guys will do the same. My muscles have been aching a lot more lately than they did with number two. I'm sure this nuelesta shot that I will have today will not help any either, but I keep telling myself this is the last round. This is my last time and that should start getting better. Keep the faith and keep looking for those silver linings. Hugs to all. -- Sonya
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Sonya - the last chemo is a great bit of news thanks for sharing your silver linings - hadn't had chocolate in 7 1/2 years of diabetes, plagued with constipation after the first chemo, remembered mother-in-law - used to buy her diabetic chocolate and if I shared a bit used to get anything but constipated took a reaction to the sorbitol they use as a sugar substutitute........hubby went to local store and bought me some...........it tasted so good after that amount of time....but even better had the desired effect made sure I had some prior to the second shot...............ones I used to love real dark chocolate! Not as nice a taste as it used to be but so so good............
......coffee definitely tastes like bleach with a little dishwater on the side - everything so bland although my tastebuds for it came back quicker than they did the first time.............
......been eating everything fresh lots of herbs and spices and stir-frys.............anything so long as I can taste it..........homemade soups better with sore mouth but been adding garlic and things to them for the tastebuds.......
.....know some of the horror stories with rads been there with my mom, seen the burns and blisters and she was bad, so I will only wish you all the luck in the world and hope it is so much better for you than it was with her.......dreading that part but still wishing I could through with the chemo bit, one more FEC then the T to go - back into the unknown again.............
.........does anyone ever go into this lot without being scared? Sorry girls mind keeps wandering..........
Here is to minimal SEs and lots of silver linings.........hugs x
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celine are you getting it through the legal channels? Some members of my family think I should get some prescribed even if I don't want it they feel it would help them support me! LOL!
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I too agree that the steroids must affect everyone differently. For me, when I get nausea my stomach feels kinda hungry so I nibble and it helps. I don't attack the fridge or anything as I'm generally not hungry for a major meal although I do eat them especially when my loved ones put the plate in front of me. haha. Also the steroids have no affect on my sleeping habits at all so lucky there!
KR - The steroids may not be a problem for you at all. The allergic reactions to the chemo would most likely be worse tenfold.
Marian - Same here with the makeup. Don't wear it as a rule but there was some interesting info and some good cleansers and creams in the package.
Yesterday was the last FEC treatment for me .... yea! Next 3 rounds are Taxotere and new SE's to figure out. But, at least nausea isn't usually a problem with it so will be happy about that. Woke up this morning post chemo and the sun is shining and so far I feel not too bad. Enjoying the good moments when I get them.
Hugs to all.
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I don't think anyone ever goes through this without being scared. Each phase brings about new fears because each phase brings about the unknown. Because everyone is different and you don't know what your side effects will be. You can read about everyone elses, but that doesn't mean that they will happen to you. I can tell you that on taxotere that my eyes water a lot, that for the mouth sores I chew on ice chips to help counteract that problem, that I have muscle aches all the time now...happened after number three treatment and I've had some neuropathy in my toes...nothing very severe as of yet. And it did go away, but is slowly coming back after treatment number four...will have to see if it goes away again towards the end again. Other than that those have been my only SE's for taxotere. Although the cytoxan I've heard is the one that messes with your sinuses so maybe that's the one that is messing with my eyes more than the taxotere. Who knows??? Good luck Toots and Halfcan on the taxotere...it's a beast!
What I have found, and maybe this is true of all chemo in general, is that my once oily skin is now dry. That's been a big change for me. So I wish I had known about some of those feel good classes I've heard you guys talk about especially if they give you some really good creams! Bummer!
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....due to experiences with my mom and she swears by it Biooil is great stuff - good moisteriser and leaves everything soft and not in the least dry.......best thing discovered and reasonable price cause you can pick up in supermarket........ great for fading scars fast too but needs massaged 2-3 times daily............
hugs x
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The Feel Good, Look Better (FGLB) class recommends using Extra Virgin Olive oil on your scalp. Says it works great and may already have it in your kitchen.
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Just wanted to say hello ... I am doing well still, stuff tastes ok, my fingers seem to have stopped peeling, and my labs were good - Still so happy that I haven't needed any Neulasta! My ANC was 2 and my platelets were low but not terribly low - so I left with no further treatment yesterday
Hope everyone is feeling ok.
xoxo Melissa
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halfcan.........that sounds great! Thank you x
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So glad everything is going well for you Melissa. That's great that you don't need the Neulesta...that shot isn't fun. I won't say it's horrible because it isn't it's very manageable, but it's not really fun either. I'm glad this new chemo is working out better for you. I sure envy you having your taste buds and all, but you very much deserve some good things...some silver linings...so I hope that keeps being the case for you.
Thanks for the olive oil suggestion Halfcan! I indeed have some of that!
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Feeling better overall 7th day after 2nd treatment.
Suffering from head rash red bumps and super sore, have a call into my onco. Nurse...
This time I drank a kefir / probiotic drink day before chemo and it seemed to help with diarrhea (but I wasn't taking additional anti nausea pills ).
I'm on taxotere and cytoxin and only experience nausea in the middle of intestinal problems. They give me dex just before and for two days after.
Body aches better with Naproxin (prescription strength ) this time. Day 7 seems to be when my skin gets funky and my feet are super cold. Alaffia makes a lotion with neem in it my friend sent to me that isn't greasy but seems to keep skin happy.
I haven't gained weight during chemo but did prior to so happy there's not additional changes (emotional donut eating was my downfall).
Taste definitely effected week two after treatment ... No sweet taste and dulled everything but it did come back in week three last time so hoping it does it again.
I have "baby cancer" and "baby chemo" though. I'm amazed at what you all are going through and how strong women are (and their families). Walking helps and I walk even on the bad days when I move slow and sway... But definitely helps with spirit and fatigue.
Remember to find gratitude -- laugh-- and realize now is the time to learn to accept help, to receive rather than give, to be pampered and feel all the love you can find. -
Hi all,
I had treatment number #3 yesterday - taxotere and cytoxan. Only one more to go! Got my neulasta today. Feeling fine so far but headed for a nap:-)
Hugs to all!
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Sonson - congratulations on your last round, how fantastic for you. Hope you will stick around on this discussion board as I presume we will all be going through radiation as well post-chemo?
Halfcan - congratulations to you too, halfway there!!!
I received my buffs today - thanks Marianelizabeth, love them....alternating between wearing them as a hat or a scarf.
Re. the weight gain, fitness information. Pre-diagnosis I was at the gym at least 3 times a week but I don't want to go during treatment as my stamina comes and goes with chemo and I want to return healthy. BUT, we did get a Wii as well, my intention was to fully use the Wii fit, but instead I am hooked on the "just dance" it is loads of fun, warms you up, burns come calories and gives you a laugh....highly recommended
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Loubar I got mine too and my red merino one is my fave. I mostly use it by turning it inside out, pulling it on, then one twist at the top and pull the rest over. Comfy and looks good. I wore it to the Leonard Cohen concert that way. I bought a "original" on sale skull and crossbones one and kind of like that for my walks in a morbid sort of way!
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Hi gals Cher here...happy to have found this forum thanks to halfcan! So nice to meet you & had s so much dim the other day!
Chemo started October 1st.am 1/2 way there! Next one next Thursday.SE's right on track...sick for about 2 weeks but is doable! Had a pretty nightmarish time with surgery then infections got healed just in the nick of tinge for chemo...so as sick as I've gotten it's nothing compared to what u went threw
Happily this year will end & start fresh although Femara will start.
Wishing you all pain free-low SE's day -
sonson: It helps keep appetite open... it doesnt alter the taste completly, cookies still taste like cardboard sadly..but it cuts the nausea so im able to eat and it numbs the heartburn so when i do eat, its not as painful
anyone else with horrible heartburn?
i have GERD already and chemo has made it soooo much worse
scared? oh yes...im petrified... fear is a general on the other side of this war. Fear feeds my "evil little shit" (tumor)....its always present...
marian: No i buy it illegaly. Have for years... i have no fear of being arrested to be honest. My brother is a cop... he knows i toke... hell our father toked the whole time we grew up! The illegality of pot comes from the lumber industry trying to shut down the hemp industry when production of boats with sails went obselete and the steam engine was introduced...
think about it.... how many die from smoking pot a year? compared to alchool and cigarettes... pot being illegal is a political game and quite frankly i dont do politics...
perscriptions can be a "bitch" ... their restrictions are ridiculous...i choose not to have a perscription because i can use better pot... meaning organic pot.
Toots: olive oil is great for everything! skin... nails... hair..i love the stuff! and olive leaf ( in pill form from a health food store) cures (yes i said cures) warts and herpes ..
Oh marian... im sooo envious of you for going to see Cohen! Did he sing so long Marianne ?
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Hi everyone! I've been checking in and reading posts. My mom is visiting, and I'm finally coming out of round #3 funk. I'm day 9. I am grateful that my "good" week is Thanksgiving week. My daughter is coming on Tues. and I am SO excited! I am still a bit nauseated here and there, but better. On the peeling hands someone mentioned: I use Neutragena Swiss Formula hand cream (it's really thick), and at night I put it on with some light cotton gloves. I wear the gloves as long as I can (hopefully overnight)...but even if I wear them for an hour or so, it really seems to help.
I hope everyone is doing well today! ~Andrea
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Celine - thanks for the tip I will remember that never cook with anything else so there is always some in the kitchen............
Cookies - I have rotten indegestion and heartburn but the ginger cookies actually cure it!!!
Cait - baby cancer and baby chemo - honestly - NO they are all as bad as each other when they get out of hand honey..........what did someone else say 'evil little shit' is about right
.........one of my friends likened it too 'Osama Bin Ladin' needs all those soldiers to go in and kick it out..................
Hope everyone having a good day, not too many clouds and lots of silver linings, off to bed for afternoon nap - why am I so tired????/
Hugs x
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celine, he did Marianne near the end of the 45 minute encores. That song took me right back to when I was 19 when that album came out. He was 33 then!
Chemo day 4 and .5 mg of Ativan got me 7 hours of sleep. I managed to go out last night to a great vegetarian restaurant with DH and all 3 kids for our daughter's 27th and then to a film (part of Mountain Film Festival) called Gates to Phu, a remote village in Nepal. It was in part a fundraiser for a school we sponsor a child at in Kathmandu so old friends and trekkers we knew too. I faded at the end so missed the Nepali food and wine at a art show for the fund raiser but was so happy to have had the evening out with my whole family.
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Celine-my heartburn is off the charts. I have to take two Prevacid every morning and still that's not enough to help. I don't know what else to do. They give you pepcid when you get the chemo too, but it's horrible. I had problems before the chemo ever started so maybe that's why it's worse. But after ten days it sort of calms down and I can go back to taking just the one heartburn medicine like I used to, but for ten days it's horrendous. Sure doesn't help with the nausea that's for sure. I'm thinking that maybe we need to get some pure ginger to help with that. I know when I've gone to eat sushi it has really helped, but since I can't have sushi right now I've not had a chance to eat any. Where can you get the raw ginger...anyone know? Not sure that ginger cookies will be enough for this monster heart burn I have!!
Thanks Loubar-I'll stick around and I can't wait for you all to join me in the radiation discussion boards! Although I guess some of you may not be going that route. I keep thinking to myself now that if I had had a masectomy that I could be done with the therapy and on to reconstruction now, but I didn't choose that path so more meds and more therapy. Oh well...hindsight being what it is and all maybe I would have done it differently. I just want to be done with all of this and have it all behind me now.
We have a luncheon today at work. It couldn't come at the worst possible time. Two days after chemo and I'm so nauseated that I could barely get banana bread down this morning and that's one of the few things I'm loving right now. Hoping this Zofran will hurry up and kick in, but I'm really not looking forward to smelling all that food all day long. Food is the last thing I want right now...yuck! It's like your damned if you do and damned if you don't. You have no energy when you don't eat and yet you feel so sick when you do...what can you do? Maybe I need that mary j!
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Sonson, just buy fresh ginger and slice it thin and simmer it on the stove. My daughter does it for all things esp. coldsu but my husband swears by it for seasickness. You can drink it plain or add honey.
Gravol now puts out a seasickness product that is just ginger, no drugs! Friends tested it summer before last while sailing with us and we could find no bad stuff in it online or on the packaging and no nausea for our non sailing friends at all. Ginger is good!
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