Femara, Blood Calcium, Bones

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lightandwind
lightandwind Member Posts: 754

Has anyone experienced problems with Femara and blood calcium problems? I was taking at least 6,000 IUs sometimes 8,000 daily of Vita D, for my bones, cancer recurrence prevention (stage IIIa) and to improve joint pain from Femara. So i guess it could be why my blood Calcium has gone up. It's gone up consistently but gradually since starting the femara, now at 10.1.  I have read in a couple of articles that femara can cause metabolic problems w/ blood calcium,  leading to hypercalcemia (high blood calcium) I am worried about  the blood calcium being caused by bone mets. Does anyone else have this problem w/ blood calcium? I have learned about the hyperparathryoid issue, so I will be sure to ask my onc to check about this. Also, I've only been on femara for 5 1/2 months and can already tell the difference in my bone density. I really wanted to take my vita d and Garden of life -Grow Bone. It's supposedly been clinically tested to increase bone density. but now too worried now about making  my blood calcium go up further, so I'm not taking either. I really don't want to take the biophosphonates, but am worried about my bones holding up if I don't. Any experience on the biophos meds I should know about? Any guidance on any of this would be appreciated. Thanks!

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  • luckypenny
    luckypenny Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    Hello lightandwind

    My blood calcium kept rising on the femara.  During chemo, my calcium was always in the mid 9's.  After starting femara , every three months they would rise just a little, until this august , I was at a 10.3.  I was taking lots of vitamin d3- 4000 iu etc.  My onc advised me to stop taking the d3 and we retested.  It came down to 10.  Then in September, I switched to Arimidex.  It rose again to 10.2 - still in the normal range.  I do have joint pain not as bad on arimidex as on femara.  I just recently had a ct scan and no bone mets or areas of concern.  So we chalk it all up to arthritis ..

    I do get zometa, a bisphosphonate every 6 months.   After my last infusion October 22nd, my calcium is a 9.6.   I take zometa to hopefully prevent bone mets.  The side effects a couple of days after are pretty nasty for me.  Nausea, really really sleepy and I did have a decently high fever last time that lasted over a day.  However, its only every 6 months.  

    I am sure others who take bisphos monthly can weigh in and tell their experience/  I do stress about my calcium levels and my liver panel as well. I can certainly relate

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited November 2012

    Thank you lucky Penny. Do biophos prevent bone mets? or help to prevent it? I need to learn more about them. Seems I've read about some  other bad side effects to them too, can't remember what they are,but i do remember that dental issues were a concern. Wonder what the long term effects are. If they can prevent bone mets, seems it would be worth it to go on them.I would certainly rather build my bones naturally.

  • luckypenny
    luckypenny Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2012

    There are several clinical trials in phase 3 , that propose that taking zometa every 6 months for 2 or 3 years can prevent bone mets.   Some of the early data from these trials were flip flopped between promising and not so promising.   The latest info I saw back in december 2011 , it looked more promising.  My Onc feels pretty decent about the possibility that it could help.

    Yes, osteonecrosis of the jaw is the one big bad side effect that occurs rarely in folks.  But it is a very bad side effect.  The other short lived side effects , that I get, sick, tired, fever, etc.. go away after a few days..

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited November 2012

    Are there any that don't have the bad side effects. Are the side effects enough to keep me home in bed? Would it be possible to work w/ the side effects?

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited November 2012

    Anyone else got any input for me?

  • Hwaz911
    Hwaz911 Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2019

    Dear Lightandwind,


    Just wondering how you made out? I have hypercalcemia from Letrozole and my bone density has gotten worse every two years. My new endocrinologist wants me on Fosamax or Actonel. With only one year left of the letrozole, I’m trying some homeopathy and exercise. She said it won’t help repair the bones after I stop and have osteoporosis in my hips now. I’m 53 years old and suggested that I nit wait too long.


    Hwa

  • LizM
    LizM Member Posts: 963
    edited January 2019

    I'll share my story in hopes that any of you with high calcium make sure you don't have hyperparathyroidism, and just blame Femara for raising your blood calcium levels. I was on femara for 10 years, from 2006 to 2016. I was diagnosed with osteoporosis in 2016. I reviewed my bloodwork and my calcium was in the low 10's consistently from 2011 to 2018. It wasn't until it was 10.7 in January 2018 that my endo who treats my osteoporosis suggested to do a PTH (parathyroid hormone level) blood test to rule out hyperparathyroidism. Bone mets was never suspected because with bone mets your calcium is usually above 11 and you usually know you have bone mets when it starts affecting your calcium level. My PTH level came back high and I was diagnosed with hyperparathyroidism. I was referred to a surgeon and had surgery in May 2018, where they removed one enlarged parathyroid gland. Since then my calcium is in the mid 9's. One thing I learned during this time is that it is not normal for an adult over the age of 35 to have blood calcium levels in the 10's and that high calcium over many years can cause all sorts of problems in your body, including heart disease, and definately osteoporosis. I thought my bone loss was from taking Femara for 10 years but now my doctors think it was from hyperparathyroidism. I have also been taking bisphosphanates since 2007. I read the studies about these drugs possibly preventing bone mets so welcomed them. I took Fosomax from 2007 to 2014, RECLAST from 2014 to 2016, and Prolia from 2016 to present. The reason the drugs didn't help with my osteoporosis was because of my hyperparathyroidism. I am still taking Prolia and probably will continue for some time.

  • tracy2327
    tracy2327 Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2019

    Hi, I'm on Letrozole also. I started 5 months ago. I noticed my calcium has increased since then. 10.7, 10.8, 10.1, 10.3, 10.6......My doctor said to cut out diary and vitamin D, and it went down. I read if it was bone mets it would be above 13. Is hypercalcemia common with letrozole??

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2019

    Hi there, Tracy2327, welcome to BCO! We hope you find this community to be a supportive place. We're sorry to hear of the issue you're having with your calcium levels. Hypercalcemia is listed as a possible, albeit uncommon, side effect of the medication. Hopefully your continued monitoring keeps your calcium at good levels!

    The Mods

  • LizM
    LizM Member Posts: 963
    edited January 2019

    Tracy, your calcium levels are not normal. I thought my calcium numbers similar to yours were from Femara and they weren't . Most doctors are ignorant when it comes to hyperparathyrodism. You may want to consult with an endocronogist to rule out a benign parathyroid tumor causing your high calcium levels. They can check for this disease with a simple blood test called PTH. There are quite a few breast cancer survivors who end up with this disease for some reason. It can be cured with a simple surgery. I ended up with severe osteoporosis after 10 years on Femara and also having hyperparathyroidism. I will possibly be on some type of bone medicine for life. Dairy intake should have no affect on your blood calcium level and only high levels of D3 could affect it. How much D3 are you taking. My endo wants my vitamin d levels to stay around 50 and wants me to only take 1,000D3 daily. She said too much D3 is bad for the heart.

  • tracy2327
    tracy2327 Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2019

    Ts tge truhanks for your reply. My PTH was 44. Normal range. My IONIZED calcium was normal too. I was old ionized calcium is the true indicator of hypercalcemia. I see docto rmonday

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