Starting chemo November 2012

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  • Sfrey
    Sfrey Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2012

    Good morning ladies! It is still early but I think I feel pretty good today :-) the biggest SE I have had us horrible stomach acid and esophageal spasms that feel like I'm having a heart attack...change in meds and sticking to a bland diet (lots of plain Greek yogurt) seems to have helped. I lost 6 lbs in one week so next treatment I will try to be more proactive with fluids and diet!



    I took Claritin to try and ward off the bone pain caused by Neulasta, had some aches but not horrible.



    My 1 week (after chemo) labs revealed that my WBC 800 and Neutrophils zero which freaked me out. I'm currently on an antibiotic to try and keep me infection free!



    Last Sunday I had a shaving party with close friends, my Mom and my young adult Daughters. They ate and had adult beverages, my tummy wouldn't allow me to. It was a wonderful experience, we laughed and cried together and I felt in control of the situation! I'm starting to get used to my GI Jane cut but I will probably wear wigs or head covers in public!



    Tonight I am meeting some girlfriends out for some food ( if I can tolerate) and lots of love and support.



    Remember you can't always control what you loose but you can control how you loose it!!

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited November 2012

    Sfrey - wonderful news that you're feeling good today.  Laughing

    We have hit our maximum out of pocket for the year.  Good news half the treatments are zero cost to me!!  But my insurance plan starts over again on January 1.  Called to see if they could give me estimate on my portion for treatments when the new year starts.  The Neulasta shot alone was quoted at $9,200!!!  HOLY COW!!!!!  Guess we'll hit max out of pocket again before January is out!  I knew that stuff was expensive but geez!!!!!!

    Makes me wonder how anyone without insurance could afford treatment. 

  • Dakota212
    Dakota212 Member Posts: 1,153
    edited November 2012

    Txjunrbug-



    That's crazy and unfair. My insurance covered my shot and I had a $10 copay. It seems illegal to charge someone that.



    Sfrey-



    So glad ur feeling better!!!

    Hope ur party was fun!!

    Tricia -



    Thanks for thinking of everyone



    Hi nancy !!



    Can't wait to try ginger snaps haven't had them in years!!!



  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited November 2012

    junebug - We are on the same chemo but you have me confused with all these abbreviations (where do I find them)

     we have the same type, size, stage, grade, etc tumor - my exception is that I am postmenopausal (if I were older I wouldn't need all this treatment) and my ONCOtype DX score was 34!  Think Dakota is very similar

     This is what my treatment is to be:

    Begin Nov 6 End January 7 :  4 chemo treatments @ every 21 days: 60 minutes of Taxotere & 60 minutes of Cytoxan;

    Neulesta shot 24 hours later.     Then 3 weeks off then 6 weeks radiation 5 days a week, then Arimidex for 5 years!!!!!  Don't want it!!! 

    I'm not  a young chick like you girls (although I think I am Laughing) but I am going to listen to my Doc - he is the Med Onc director and was a an assistant professor at Fox Chase in Philadelphia. Guess  I have to trust him but I don't like meds!!!!!!

  • Dakota212
    Dakota212 Member Posts: 1,153
    edited November 2012

    Tricia -



    We are similar also but I am on the adriamtcin cytocin taxol cocktail. My onco type was 32.... I am pre menopausal.

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited November 2012

    This may sound stupid but what is an Onco type score??  Oncologist hasn't mentioned it.  Just gave me 20% chance coming back without chemo and a less than 5% chance of reoccurance with chemo.  Seemed like a no brainer.   Chemo here I come.  Sorry if I'm not using the right abbreviations those were the ones I got from the doctor. 

    Mine is triple negative so no 5 year pill is currently available to me. 

    Tricia - I'm having 6 rounds of Cytoxan & Taxtore.  One treatment every 3 weeks.  Theory on the study is giving it longer will increase the the cure rate.  Also will have radiation once chemo is done. 

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited November 2012

    txjunebug - your onc probably didn't mention it because you are triple negative and the test was initially developed to determine the likelihood of recurrence in ER+ node-negative women with early stage BC.  There more info on this website about it.

  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited November 2012

    I got up at 8am today and took a sleeping tablet so I could sleep more. I've just got up at 4pm and feel better for it. Must try and do something normal now.



    I seem to have developed allergies to dressings. I have one covering both the entry and exit sites of my Hickman line and they itch like mad. Around my neck is itchy, red and bumpy - same on my arm where I had a needle in last week and they secured gauze on with tape after. What is happening to me?!!

  • Thankful4mylife
    Thankful4mylife Member Posts: 56
    edited November 2012

    Okay, it's still early (8:30AM in SoCal), but, could it be that I am actually on the "up"? 6 days post treatment and I feel completely different than yesterday. I'm still dealing with heartburn, and I did run to the bathroom once in the middle of the night, but yesterday was spent in tears wondering how I'm gonna do this....today, I'm thinking I *might* be able to do this! I'm still very tired but plan on taking it easy today anyway....maybe I'll go for a walk or something.



    Ohhhhhh how I hope I'm on the "up"!



    I hope everyone has a wonderful day today:)

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited November 2012

    Michelle - I'm having the same problem.  Two surgeries no reaction.  Port implanted and all the sudden I break out in a rash.  Same facility same type bandage but this time.  Itch, Itch, Itches like poison ivy!!!  Nurse said Hydrocortisone cream and it has helped some.

    Hope your day continues to improve!Laughing

    Guess I better get back to work.  Anyone else having motivation issues today????

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited November 2012

    Junebug & Michelle  You may be Allergic to Bandages and PENICILLIN!

    I had the same problems with the bandage from the port cath.  I developed a red rash from my breast all the way up to the middle of my neck!!! Itched like crazy and worse than that was I thought my throat was closing.   The day after insertion, the Dr. checked and changed the tape to paper tape..Days later still going crazy, went back 2 more times until about day 10 or 11 it's back to normal.  In my opinion, besides the tape, I was highly allergic to the penicilin IV they gave me.  JUst drink lots of fluid

    Junebug are you kidding about the 9,200 for the neulesta shots!!!!  Unblievable!!!!  Wonder what all these treatments are costing..maybe thats why "they" want us to get them....All about the money!!!!

    Cool Everyone  have a great day and if you feel lousy today remember tomorrow will be better - think of it as only 4 bad days out of 21

  • Dakota212
    Dakota212 Member Posts: 1,153
    edited November 2012

    Tricia-



    Good point!!! Especially about the bad days!!! Love it!!! We got this girls !!!

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited November 2012

    I wish I was kidding Tricia!  I'm so thankful we have good insurance.  I don't see how anyone can afford to pay for this out of pocket. 

    Also a little perturbed because my boss has a cold but is still coming into the office.  If I catch this I'm going to scream.  Such a germaphobe now!  LOL!!!

  • ltmguy
    ltmguy Member Posts: 49
    edited November 2012

    Good morning,

    I braved it and went to my children's school for lunch with a loved one and even ate Mcd Fry's Undecided.... 

    sickofpink I bought my Brian Joesph eyebrow cream at a wig shop in birmingham they will mail it or just google it and you can go direct and order it. 

    TriciaM I am a bit crazy and yes I have all so been to a nutritionist.  I juice fruit and veggies onice a day. I take calcium 2 times a day I take vits and iron I drink a protain drink if I can't eat ( at least try)  I eat all green wise items... I have been doing this expect juicing for a while but I was a vegatrain for 11 years and still eat very little meat mostly fish that we catch and is fresh.  I make my foods at home I don't eat processed cookies and bread If I don't make it  I buy from the bakery.  I have changed something up like I don't buy milk in the glass bottles with the cream on top and I am not using honey and am not eat raw fish/sushi.  I asked about all the food stuff from The ACC and they said not unless my WBC gets really low and they but me on a no VEGGI and FRUIT Diet.  I can even do Sushi and oysters 3 days before to 3 days after chemo.  Just as if I can have my fills then for my TE. or dental work.  They have said that as along as the doseing is done right and with pre chemo meds the side effects should be small.  I must say I have had very little side effects.  I have been really tired one day but I was still able to go to a all day birthday/football party.  I have not been eating my normal amount and some days really did not eat.  But I have been up everyday makeup on dressed and going.  I am a very busy person though.  I pass kideny stones don't take pain meds and keep going.  So as I said I am a bit crazy.  I don't pretend to be normal.  I live with a kideny issue called RTA and I have had a stone all ready with my first dose of treatment.  I am sure I will have one with every dose,, I pass 2 or 3 stones a month.  I have Great local docs that are friends.  Great local hospitals that husband/friends run and work all through (navy and civilian).  I will say my husband is having a really hard time I am the one that is all ways on top of things. I always have everything under control and no mader how bad the stones get I always make sure  it fits into the families schedule. This has to be about the cancer I can't hide anything and he knows how bad it really is.  He does this for a living.  He knows what it means when they say a lymph node lite up or it is this close to the muscle and skin, there is a leason on the liver and it is ok for now.  The tumor is growing at 1 CM a week.  It looks like your family history is...Syndrome and we need more info.   I had a bad infection/rejection of a TE and had to go back into surgery and was in the hospital for over a week at UAB(5 hours a way from home) this set me back 3 weeks on chemo.  I think we all have hard times.  Times we can't get out of bed times we can't eat, when we think we can't go on.  I know I have never been as sick as I was as when I had the infection I was sleeping 18 + hours a day not eatting and hurt so bad that clothes/sheets wind hurt.  At first my husband blew it off and said I was fine I must of cought something.  So please know we are all different no one is the same the way my body reacts is different then anyone elses.  When it comes to radation I am not getting it because the my cancer protacal does not call for it at this point I was schedule for it but I do not have it in my skin muscle or lymph nodes and it was less than 5 CM and I am Pre menapause.  and I am ER and PR + my ONC is one of the top research doc for susan g we really looked to find my team of docs.  I drive 5 hours by choice.

    I have to run back to school then meeting for work I hope if you are having a rough day you can find something that makes you feel better I take lots of warm baths with obus oil ( from the health food store) first learned about yes in England.  I wish We could get the Migrane med here in the statesFoot in Mouth  That would sure help with the aches....

  • ltmguy
    ltmguy Member Posts: 49
    edited November 2012

    Junebug....

    If you can Go home sick..... Please you dont need a cold What about a mask may be he would get the point.  I have teachers that want me to wear one at school when I come in.  I say no I am the fool go IN it is my own fault.

  • michellej1980
    michellej1980 Member Posts: 342
    edited November 2012

    Junebug- I'm still itching like mad wherever I've had either tape or dressing on my skin in the past week. The chemo must have made my skin hypersensitive as I've never had reactions like this before. Have been applying hydrocortisone so will see how it goes.



    Still feeling generally shitty but think I might be getting better. Fed up with going to the toilet 6 times a day but better than being bunged up I suppose. Need to see my GP for a sick note so that should force me out of the house tomorrow. I wish so much I could sleep till this is all over. I am being a wimp because I could feel 100 times worse, in fact I HAVE felt 100 times worse. Someone slap me!

  • Dakota212
    Dakota212 Member Posts: 1,153
    edited November 2012

    Michelle -

    With any anesthesia I get itchy all over. With both kids, c sections, and with my BMX, I had Benadryl push every 3 hours until they finally have me hydroxyzine. Wish I were close enough to give it to u cuz by the time I came home from the hospital I only needed it for a day. I am sorry I hated that feeling. Hand it there. 😁😁😁

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited November 2012

    Michelle - Slap, slap - do you feel better now?Yell Also, did you read my post about the penicillen reaction - maybe that was it

    ltmguy - wow you sure do go through a lot to keep yourself healthy = keep up the good workInnocent but are you really "allowed" to take all those supplements with the chemo?  PS, my dad was a Navy Seabee in the '40's

    Thankful4 - so did you go for that walk and do you feel better? Smile

    Junebug - tell your boss to send you home with pay or go home her sick self - if that doesn't work you just might be in the unemployment line Embarassed

    All of you Girl Fighters: Got to tell you - this is day 10 for me and I feel better than I have in months!!  So much energy, feel too good to be sick...

    I think I love that $9,000 Neulesta!!! Cool  

    Have a great night tonite and a better day tomorrow...

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited November 2012

    sickofpink tell me about this Brian Joseph eyecream

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2012

    It seems that almost everyone on here doing chemo has a port! I am starting chemo on November 20th. and I talked to my oncologist this morning about having the AC/T every 2 weeks without a port, and she said that it should be fine. I am a bit concerned about using one single vein on my good arm for everything from chemo, scans, lab work. Anybody else out there who is not having a port for their chemo. I am feeling like the odd one out here!!

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2012

    It seems that almost everyone on here doing chemo has a port! I am starting chemo on November 20th. and I talked to my oncologist this morning about having the AC/T every 2 weeks without a port, and she said that it should be fine. I am a bit concerned about using one single vein on my good arm for everything from chemo, scans, lab work. Anybody else out there who is not having a port for their chemo. I am feeling like the odd one out here!!

  • Dakota212
    Dakota212 Member Posts: 1,153
    edited November 2012

    Adagio-



    Nope not alone at all. I am here. No port, 4 A/C, every other week, 4 taxol every other week My MO said its 8 IV's total, if u have good veins no port needed. Good luck. We r are here for u!!

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited November 2012

    Adagio-

    The only reason I chose to have a port was because I fly frequently on business, which puts me at a risk for lymphedema.  I was going to go with the IV because I have really good veins, but don't want to add any other risks to the mix, so after consulting with my MO, we decided on a port.

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited November 2012

    I didn't want a port but the doc said I only had 2 good veins and he wanted 4; 1 for each treatment.. I don't like the port but it's here and not much I can do about it (looks like a big old tumor on my bone).I always thought I had good veins but they can't use my right arm because of the lymph node removal...I'm sure your doc would have insisted on it if she thought you needed it.  You will do fine....

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited November 2012

    I didn't even question why I needed the port.  Most people I know who have had chemo got a port.  Will say the past two days have been better but I swear I've never had heart burn this much until I got the port. Also wondering if I am allergic to the sonogram gel.  Seems my skin is hypersensitive these days too.  Hope it goes away soon!!!

    Boss stayed in her office with the door shut the rest of the afternoon.   I will be having a talk with the HR Director about how they plan to handle my not being able to stay in the office if someone is up there sick.  I shouldn't have to use my sick time because someone else is inconsiderate and spreading germs.  

    On a happier note, I finished decorating one of the Christmas trees this evening.  Yes I know it's not even Thanksgiving but it takes my mind off of the Friday and my first chemo treatment .  Now I only have 3 more trees to go.   LaughingLaughing  As I tell my DH, there are worse things to be addicted to than Christmas decorations!!!!!!

    Hope everyone has a good night.

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2012

    Dakota - have you had any chemo yet? I am glad to know that I am not totally alone without a port!! My oncologist didn't even look at my veins - but she said that having a port is like having a foreign object in the body and sometimes the body tries to reject it. I feel that way about the chemo drugs - they are a foreign substance to our body and that is why we get so sick because our body is trying to reject them.  I am so glad I found this site and the wealth of information from women who have travelled the road that I am just about to embark on. 

    txjunebug - wow, a christmas tree decorated already!! I haven't even thought about christmas yet, but I definitely should. Good luck for the first chemo - let us know how it goes!!

    TriciaM - do you know why they don't use the arm on the side of the surgery? 

    Maryah - the port definitely would be convenient for you with travelling - am impressed that you can still travel while having chemo!!

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2012

    TriciaM - I asked my oncologist this morning why I needed to follow my chemo with radiation and she said that the chemo attacked the systemic cancer cells and the radiation is specifically for the breast area where the cancer originated. I am going to be having 35 rounds of radiation after my chemo - yikes!! This is going to be a long arduous journey.

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited November 2012

    I don't have a port.  My doc never even suggested it.  I have pretty good veins, even though we can only use one arm, so I guess they figured they would just see how it goes.  2 of 6 done and no problems so far.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    My oncologist told me that I have great veins, but that chemo is really hard on veins, so yes, I get a port.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited November 2012

    Adiago, As far as I know, once you have lymph nodes removed from an arm, you are not suppose to have your blood pressure taken from that arm or any blood drawn from or injections into that arm because you can get lymphedema, check with your doc. 

    As far as the Port, I think my doc just wants all his patients to have one.. he likes 4 good veins if your having 4 treatments - I have 2 (in the one arm)

    Also, it looks like we will both be having 35 radiations after this chemo is finished.

    Good luckWink with your first treatment and remember to drink lots of water for at least 2 days....and stay away from germs!!Sealed

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