I Want More than 5 years Is There a Chance?

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  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited December 2010
    Have you seen this thread? :
    Seventeen years with stage 4 today
    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topic/746840?page=6#idx_156
  • IronJawedBCAngel
    IronJawedBCAngel Member Posts: 470
    edited December 2010

    I'm not stage 3, but I have a Komen sister who is a 23 year survivor of Stage 3 breast cancer, and she was hormone negative with something like 21 positive nodes.  Diagnosed in her early 30's with a very young daughter at home.  She lives a great life and inspires all of us at Komen.

    I have another friend, diagnosed 55 years ago at the age of 25 with breast cancer, not sure what stage, but she has lived a wonderful life and is a hero to me.  She volunteers with me on some of our local advocacy committees and she is a force of nature!  There are no guarantees to any of us living in this world. I have a friend who lost her 21 year old son two years ago to a skydiving accident.  We are only guaranteed this moment.  Enjoy your life, live it large, and make a huge footprint on this world!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2010

    I love hearing all these success stories.  I'm not focusing on numbers but it's always in the back of my mind.

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    Barb

  • redhead54
    redhead54 Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2010

    I am 4 1/2 years past my last diagnoses...skin mets.  Almost eleven years survival total.  My son was four when first diagnosed and is now almost 15!!  Somthing to celebrate!

  • ellamilana
    ellamilana Member Posts: 76
    edited October 2012
  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2012

    Shana, I think it is completely normal to worry and think about this once in a while. I know I certainly have bouts of it, especially at testing time. At the same time, even at stage III, the stats show me that ten years out I still have a better than 50/50 chance of being around. So I do all the treatment, as imperfect as it still is, watch my diet, do my exercise and hope for the best. I figure the longer I can hold on, the better the chance of better treatment down the pike.

  • lkc
    lkc Member Posts: 1,203
    edited October 2012

    Hi Barb, I really do understand . Anniversaries can bring all those fears back, and the Holidays can be stressful even for those without BC. It's all normal, especially since your relatively " new" to this. Everyone goes to the " dark side" sometimes.

    However, I promise you with the passage of time it gets easier. Focus on the realities not skewed stats which don't trauly amount to squat (in my humble opnion)

    I have no doubt that  you will grow old with all of us.

     Feel better!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Thanks so much lkc!  I already feel like I'm growing oldUndecidedWink

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    Barb

  • karody
    karody Member Posts: 89
    edited October 2012
    I feel the same way every time I cough or have a headache....not yet, not yet!  I want to be around to take my 8 and 9 year old children to college.  I never feared death before I was a mother.  In fact, I did some really reckless things.  But now I am so afraid of leaving my children motherless.  So my mantra ever since chemo 2 1/2 years ago is, "I am raising those kids."  So far it is working Smile.
  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2012

    Karody, that reminds me of my mom. When I was a kid, she had an extreme fear of flying. To the point that she had to take valium to get on a plane. She and my dad traveled a lot, including to exotic, out of the way places (Afghanistan in the 60s, for example). 

    Years later I noticed that she was fine flying and I asked what happened. "You guys grew up," she said. Her own mother was a "Mommy Dearest" type mother and while we were small, my mother was terrified that the plane would crash, leaving us orphaned and raised by her mother. 

  • Keena208
    Keena208 Member Posts: 17
    edited October 2012

    Hi, Barb.

    Thank you for starting this thread. I love reading successful stories. As a mother of 2 small kids, I feel the same way as you do. Five years is nothing!!!!

    I want to see my kids graduate from college, have rewarding career, fall in love, wed, and have a lot of babies!  Then I want to travel around the world with my husband.

    When I was diagnosed, I asked if I have 5 years to live. My oncologist said many oncologists look at 10 year span, even patients with stage III BC!

    I plan to be an happy old ladies with wrinkles and bad joints in 90s!!

     

     

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited October 2012

    Hey Barb,

    Haven't been around much lately, been too scared to stay close.   I get you.  I have a 16 yo daughter (almost) and a 13 yo son and I just PRAY I can be there for them in the future.  I truly remeber before my dx ( and I SWEAR I KNEW SOMEHTING was wrong) and while I was rocking her that Please let me be there to walk her down the isle.  So weird as this was MANY years before my dx

     Love,

    Sharon

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited October 2012

    i have to chime in here.  check out the 5 years out postings; there are lots of stage III past 5 years.  i was 10 and half years out; that is a long time.  i met a woman who was stage IV in 1998.  she went into remission until 2010. she is still alive and doing well.  there are so many treatments and options for us.  my radiation now is sooo better then it was 10 years ago. they are targeting the cancer in my spine.  it will be gone in no time.  the hormone drugs for those of us who are estrogen pos and hercepton for those who benefit from that treatment.  i think you have to deal with the reality of being a cancer patient but above and beyond that you are a human being with a life.  don't let cancer take that from you.  i am doing well. i expect to be NED in three months. hang in there stage III sisters. don't give up.  keep on keeping on.  the struggle to hang in there is almost more difficult then the disease itself. 

    hugs

    diana

  • Sue2690
    Sue2690 Member Posts: 43
    edited October 2012

    I'm on the "50 year plan."

    When I first saw my surgeon, two weeks after DX, he first said the tumor was too big for surgery.  And my lymph nodes were matted.  This of course scared the crap out of us.  Then he said we'd do chemo first, hoping to shrink the tumor and nodes so surgery could be done successfully.  Then, almost as an aside, he said we're on the "50 year plan."

    That was the single best thing I heard from any of my mainstream docs.  Yes, the odds of surviving were not as good for me as they would be for someone with a tiny little stage 1A tumor with no node involvement, but it's still certainly possible to live 50 years from a stage III dx.  Unless, I suppose, you're 80 when you get the dx!  I was 45 at dx and plan to die of a relatively rare condition known as "almost a hundred." 

    Remember 2 things:

    1)  The "5 year survival rate" is how many are still alive after 5 years.  It doesn't say anything about how long they live past that time.  As someone else said, that's just a common reference point used by researchers.

    2)  Those stats are old!  They are usually based on people diagnosed 12-15 years ago!  We have better meds now than then, better support to help us stay healthy through treatment.  Heck - for those of us her2+++ many of those stats don't include use of herceptin!

  • CherylinOhio
    CherylinOhio Member Posts: 623
    edited October 2012

    I too fall to the darkside more often than I care to.  Several good points have been made in this discussion. 1) Stats are based on bc patients from many years ago; 2) the treatments today are better than they were many, even 5 years ago; 3) women who are past 5 years are out living life and not thinking of bc, I am glad some of them choose to come back here and give us all hope and inspiration!! 

    I hate thinking of not being here to get my degree and take my horse to championship shows.  Stay focused on what you love, your passion, your family, it will keep you going and keep you strong physically and mentally!!  I am glad to have all of you ladies here for support and encouragement!!  We will beat this and grow old and be fiesty like Betty White!! 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    Sue:  I like your philosophy that you'll die of the rare condition "almost a hundred" !!  That's a great idea isn't it?  Do any of you know just how 'new' the chemo regimen is?  I was told that nothing has changed in the last 15-20 years and that Tamoxifen has also not changed in that long.  Of course, this was from someone other than oncologist. Can anyone verify what their oncs have said on this issue?

  • TectonicShift
    TectonicShift Member Posts: 752
    edited May 2014

    Sometime in the last five or so years I think (not sure exactly when) third-generation AC+T chemo was instituted across the board as standard of care. It's typically every two weeks now instead of every three weeks. They did clinical trials and figured out that AC+T every two weeks (rather than every three weeks) reduces recurrences. So yes, things have changed from ten years ago.

    I'm not sure about FEC and FAC+T - I didn't have that so I don't know the schedule.

  • weesa
    weesa Member Posts: 707
    edited November 2012

    Actually, I did AC and T dose dense, every two weeks back in January of 2003, and the T in my case was TAXOTERE. I was the first patient my onc had who did this. Glad to know it is now the standard of care.

  • jennyboog
    jennyboog Member Posts: 1,322
    edited November 2012

    Great I did it every 3 weeks...just my luck :(

  • CherylinOhio
    CherylinOhio Member Posts: 623
    edited November 2012

    I also did chemo every 3 weeks.  My onc says he gave me the most aggressive treatment available to him so .... hope that was good enough. One thing I do not know and am afraid to ask is whether I am IBC, IDC, DCIS? I am not sure I want to know the answer. Maybe being in the dark is better that way I don't dwell on the odds for each. Is there some criteria for each? I see my onc in January and will break down and ask him.  I asked once about my reoccurence rate, 52%, and after that I didn't want to know anything else.

  • TectonicShift
    TectonicShift Member Posts: 752
    edited May 2014

    I looked at the study and if I remember correctly the dose dense ended up being better but not alot better. Enough that they changed protocol -- but I think just several percentage points better. But remember, it was better just ON AVERAGE. For some women every three weeks might actually be better.

    The thing is, you want chemo to hit the cancer cells when they are dividing. You could have done every three weeks and that could have been better for YOUR particular cancer. Maybe chemo hit your cancer cells at just the right time. Two weeks or three weeks, there is no way of knowing. It's all a crap shoot.

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