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  • bgirl
    bgirl Member Posts: 538
    edited November 2012

    Hope everyone is feeling better this morning and got some rest.

    I was out last night too and yesterday afternoon.  My daughter's high school commencement was last night.  I am so proud of her!  Considering how crazy her senior year was, she did really well.  Along with her diploma she got School Honour Role, Ontario Scholar, certificates in the Arts & French (had to take 10 credits with French as language of instruction) and the Vocal Music award for the highest mark.   We went out and found a dress that looked beautiful on her.  She is a little conservative and not one to wear super short of super tight.  It was gorgeous, but expensive, but she loved it on sight.  I decided the heck with it, I think she earned that dress going through my diagnosis and treatment last year.    Okay ... mom is done bragging!

    Will check in later ... happy hermitting weekend.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited November 2012

    Jane I'm sorry, u can't brag enought to us---OMG how wonderful for her and u--Yea this isyear had to be tough on her and she still accomplished all that. Jane I always forget u'r in Canada, that why when I read French I was oh yeah. Good for her and she certsinky deserved any dress she wanted--Can u put a pic. of her up---what a hppy rime for u and really makin u proud. She sounds so sweet.

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited January 2013

    bgirl,

    Brag on!!Wink   I love seeing my daughter in a dress.Kiss

  • journey4life
    journey4life Member Posts: 517
    edited November 2012

    Chey - I agree with the others - your job sounds both exciting and exhausting. Be sure to reserve some of that energy for yourself!

    Jane - You have every right to brag on your DD. Sounds like she is a smart, talented and sensible young woman. Give yourself an "atta-boy" for how you raised her!

    Fl - what a great opportunity to meet BCO sisters! Be sure to fill us in.

    kltb - the visit with the MO was an emotionally exhausting one. When I went for my 3-month check up a couple of weeks ago, I intended to present my case on why I should get a scan. I had it all worked out (in my head)...well, I didn't do it. I basically imploded, got emotional and wouldn't talk at all. I think it was a breaking point for me. A few days after the appt, in a more rational state, I made an appt with MO and my chemo nurse (for support) so that I could get everything out that I've been holding since my diagnosis. Does anyone else have a public and a private face? I do - at work, I try to have a good attitude, say "I'm doing well, thanks for asking" and hide my fears, frustrations, and fright about BC. At home, its a different story...thus, my hermitude.

    At the second appt, I let it all out...how I feel about losing my breasts, how I'm facing another surgery to take out my ovaries, how I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop, how I hate when other ppl think that now that treatment is over, I'm "cured" so life should return to normal...how chemobrain has seriously affected my job performance...how for the first time in 14 years, I got a "meets expectations" on my annual performance review when I've always gotten "exceeds"...how little energy I have and little interest in doing anything...how cancer has robbed me of laughter, joy and thankfulness...how I wish I could say I'm thankful for being alive...for being a survivor...for fighting bc and winning...but I can't.  (I'm posting this so I don't lose it! will continue in next post)

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited January 2013

    FLwarrior,

    Have a fun lunch!

  • journey4life
    journey4life Member Posts: 517
    edited November 2012

    (con't) - how my daily thoughts are about cancer...how little patience I have for those people who complain about minor ailments as though its a big deal. I'm stuck in this place that I don't want to be in and don't know how to move forward.

    At the previous visit, my MO talked about guarantees and there aren't any. He used the "I could get hit by a truck tomorrow" line. I responded to that at this appt - yeah, we all could be hit by a truck...but you have a choice...you can look both ways to make sure the truck isnt coming...you can decide to go another route. The truck has already hit me...wham...and it backed over me and is just waiting to hit me again.

    I said that I want to know that all the sacrifices I've made, all the doctors visits, time missed from work, chemobrain, radiation, these hateful TEs and everything I've endured have been worth it. That at a point in time, I want to hear "Right now, we see NED!" I want them to help me move past this place I'm stuck in...that I was sure they had resources that would help me...

    We met for more than an hour and I was emotionally drained. But, it must have made an impression...the next day, I got calls that a CT scan was scheduled, was given options for some support groups and counseling...I feel there may be some positive things that will happen...at least I feel like they're fighting for me and now looking at me as a patient, not as a statistic that gets XX treatment because that is what the protocols are.

    P.S. My PCP increased the Zoloft she prescribed while I've been on this damn roller coaster. I hope it'll work!

    Thanks for "listening" - it helps to get it out here too. Now maybe I can start to move on...

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited November 2012

    Jane I'm sorry, u can't brag enought to us---OMG how wonderful for her and u--Yea this isyear had to be tough on her and she still accomplished all that. Jane I always forget u'r in Canada, that why when I read French I was oh yeah. Good for her and she certsinky deserved any dress she wanted--Can u put a pic. of her up---what a hppy rime for u and really makin u proud. She sounds so sweet.

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited January 2013

    journey4life,

    Sadly, no matter where on our BC journey, we can never completely stop the overwhelming feeling of helplessness.   Good medical team!!!Cool

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited November 2012

    There are loads of hurdles along the way and some we knock over cuz they're harder to do but u keep on trying --that's what we can do.

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited November 2012

    Skittle- I bet parents can be crazy! We live in what is considered to be an urban district but the elementarys are districted in to neighborhood schools then they all dump together into the same middle and HS. We bought our house in the highest tax neighborhood and best elementary school area hoping it would be a better education for the girls. Well, they recently redistricted and everything is going to hell. Grrr... They are still doing well and I still think the MS and HS will work out. They have more programs and opportunities than the private schools, and well...we just don't have the money! Woulda, shoulda, couldas about buying here...but it is what it is.

    I'm probably a nightmare for teachersFoot in Mouth  I'm an email'er. My friend that teaches at my girls' school called me after conference night and said "what did you say to Mrs. X. She thinks you hate her". Well, I simply wanted answers to why Katie was doing so poorly on testing and why she needed tutoring. Apparently I was a little grumpy and said "I know what non-sense words are" in a shitty tone, lol. I love teachers, and think that they are amazing! I hate that all the beuracratic crap takes teachers out of the classrooms at least once a week for meetings and continuing ed. Oh well, I wrote a novel...sorry!

    Journey- I'm so glad you got it all out. I had an appointment like that before my BMX. I cried the whole time and kept dribbling, "I just need to be able to take care of my kids". She understood. We have to be honest. I think I would lose it if she ever used the truck or bus reference. Like FIRE her. There are really too many options around me. I love her, but seriously. I'm glad they are scanning! It will make you feel better.

    Jane- congrats to your daughter! That is awesome! Milestones!!

    Oops FL- have a great time! Love the cheesecake Factory!

  • whaevah
    whaevah Member Posts: 354
    edited November 2012

    Just checking in to say HI to my fellow hermits Kiss so much reading !

    Brag on Jane , you have a lot to be proud of! Your dd sounds lovely:)

    journey, thanks for sharing and I hope the next steps are easier for you, and all of us

    camillegal..thanks for the laughs, need that

    markat...your girls are lucky to have such a concerned and attentive mom, we need more moms like you

    chemobrain is getting the better of me lately, zero concentration and lttle memory retention. Only 2 more Taxol , am really looking forward to a break before rads

    staying in the cave this weekend, good thing Wink

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited November 2012

    Markat--everytime u write hahahahahahaha--U sound like a tough marshmellow hahahahaha

    Whaeva -- I think I've lost my mind completely and what makes it worse is that I haven't been out of the house in over (I think) 2 weeks except to go to ER. I told u I was the QUEEN of hermits--Oh wait I let the dog out last night and stood outside on the deck--OK that's out of the house, I didn't leave the door cuz I watch to many scary movies so I went in right away LOL and our dog came back when she was done. Our yard is fenced. Everyone around here has dogs and cats and fences and some nice neighbor leaft us a couple of books about how to train and take care of dogs. My SIL is a wonder with all pets so he doesn't need them, but my randson is reading them so that's good, he can learn. Well give me a gold star--I helped my grandson with his math the other night and when he came home he said he got them all wrong. Hey I knew this stuff in 3rd grad I don't need it anymore. So I'm not allowed to help him with math anymore he said.

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited November 2012

    Hey Whaevah! Anne Hathaway is on SNL tonight. I'm so jealous of her delicate pixie-looking features with her cute pixie hair. We could seriously be twins if she'd gain around 100lbs. That's all I'll be able to think about while I watch...drinking a milkshake and pouting.



    Chemo brain sucks. My MO kept forgetting stuff at my appointment last week and I told her she was getting too close to the chemo bags. She laughed.



    Camille- 3rd grade math is impossible now. They aren't 'allowed' to just know the answer. They have to know why it's the answer. 13+13 is 5+5+3+5+5+3. Or a number line. Drives me crazy!!

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited November 2012

    Markat again hahahahaha

  • CindyLooWho
    CindyLooWho Member Posts: 417
    edited November 2012

    I'm glad I found this thread. I'm 3 weeks post BMX on Monday and some days I just want to be left alone. I took a ride today to see a friends new house and I'm exhausted. I had to admit I was not ready for driving.



    My DH told everyone not to call me to talk about cancer because I wasn't having it. They were also told not to share because I am a private person. Well yesterday I got a card from a cousin on my dads side that I haven't seen since I was 9, I'm 49 now! It was very nice but I am so angry with my father. Why was it necessary to share MY health issue with someone I haven't seen in 40 years??? And then I feel bad because he says that his wife has battled ovarian cancer....well I do not need rads or chemo or hormone therapy...so now I feel guilty and like a cancer imposter.



    I still can not believe how angry I am at my father.



    Thanks for letting me vent.

  • Skittle
    Skittle Member Posts: 400
    edited November 2012

    Fl--hope the cheesecake was wonderful and the company enlightening.  Sharing a laugh or a woe is a blessing.

    bgirl--congrats on wonderful young scholar.  Talking about my daughters is a weakness of mine, too.  :-)   So happy you bought the dress.  No regrets there.

    journey--i hope time can give back some of what bc has robbed.  I lose confidence and comfort and normalcy... and try to fake it through.  With support from all the loving, lovely hermits, perhaps a little laughter and joy can sneak back in.

    Teka--you hit the target.  It is a deep helplessness, when we all want, seemingly, a fierce independence.

    markat--you don't sound like a nightmare at all.  Teachers (should) welcome questions and concerns.  If your Katie is weak in testing, her teachers should guide you as to why so she can gain back whatever might have been left out.  If she needs tutoring, ask if her teachers scaffold with small groups or peer support within the time they have her in class.  (and if you really want help, ask about an IEP--individualized education plan, or a 504--which, by law, requires her needs be met.)  I know at middle school, we are required to differentiate--meaning our tests and teaching must meet all students where they are... not a cookie-cutter approach demanding kids meet a standard if they're not ready.  ~~so sorry to go off the deep end talking shop.  All students deserve the best environment for their learning.  I'll hush.

    Queen camille--I love that you're willing to help your grandson!  He's so lucky!  Most of our district kids go home to no support at all, unless it's a way to a football practice.  Anyway...  lucky boy.  Yes, math has really changed.

    whaevah--hugs to you in your cave.  It feels cave-ish now that it gets dark so early.  I wish you well with your last 2, and hope the break brings peace from the storm.

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited November 2012

    Oh look it's cute Anne Hathaway (eastern time). I think she looks fat(not really).



    Thanks skittle. Of course I think she's a genius, because she's just like me. No problem with the shop talk.



    Welcome Cindyloo. It's tough dealing with other people and their intentions.

  • Skittle
    Skittle Member Posts: 400
    edited November 2012

    CindyLooWho...  Glad you're here.  Took me a while to stumble across, but everyone here is welcoming, sympathetic and genuine.  I've shared your angry spot.  I, too, am a private person and asked a small circle not to share.  I didn't want a pity party, and I didn't want false faces.  It makes me sound unkind, but it took me 9 months to get over and forgive the one who betrayed my confidence.  (I'll admit an angry inner flare up now and then, but I'm over it if you look at the big picture.)  It'll take time, but you'll get there.  Imposter?  No, not at all.  When the c card is dealt you, your world changes.  The solid foundation of our day to day turns to quicksand.  Our struggles are individual and personal and we each are alone in our coping... which is why a band of hermits can be so comforting.  Cling to the positive ones around you, and try to distance yourself from anything that doesn't feel right or good to you.  For once in your life, it's time to be a little selfish.  It's ok to ask others to protect you.  You don't have to answer every phone call or reply to every comment.  Save your energy.  And know there's a little band of kindred spirits who care and are here for you.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited November 2012

    Oh Cindyloowho--Welcome to our little crazy world here--I say crazy cuz we are what we are and let everything out how we feel--of course we veer off the subject and that's fine-But skittle said it best to u and I ditto her. BTW the word cancer when it is said with u or about u is horrendous enough so never feel like an imposter it can be very scary for so many. I'm sorry u have to face all this, but 40 yrs. u haven't heard from someone and now she's showing up.? I think I would tend to ignore what she says, don't plant things in u'r mind that u don't have to. Use u'r energy for just YOU and feel free to vent, rant and laugh here--it's good for you

    Markat if u'r DD is like u she is very intelligent and testing is a problem for alot of kids and grown-ups, so I would just state that too. U'r a great Mom.

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited January 2013

    CindyLooWho,

    I started BC journey with only husband, son, and daughter knowing until I told extended family by phone, then lastly a distant female relative by way of a long informative written letter.   The distant female relative, who continues to never be at a loss for words when writing yearly X-mas letters, suddenly one of few words.SurprisedTongue Out   She popped my bubble!!!!Yell

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited November 2012

    Trying to get caught up. :)

    Omeggo - I have always had a hate/hate relationship with my hair - I always tried to make it what it wasn't (curly when it was straight; big when it was fine, etc...) but I guess 'you don't know what you got til it's gone' - lol.  I didn't wear my wig all summer because it was hot and uncomfortable.  Wearing it some now but still mostly hats unless I am "dressing up" 

    Camille - I agree, big ole sparkly earrings are a must!  My favorite pair actually came from the $1 jewlery store and are big silver hoops with rhinestones.  Sarah keeps stealing them and I have to steal them back.

    FL - hope you had a great time with the friends at the Cheescake Factory - we had never been to one until the last time we went to St. Louis (don't have them around here) - we loved it!

    Jane - congrats on your daughter!  You have every right to be proud! I am sure she looked beautiful too!

    Lisa - I totally have a public and a private face. So glad you were able to get it all out and get some affirmation for all you have been through.  And the scans - are they scheduled yet?

    markat - that was the first thing I told the mammogram tech after the radiologist told me it was likely cancer "I have kids, I have to be able to take care of my kids"  As far as the bureau crap, I agree and I have a real problem with how our district does things.  If a teacher has to be out for a workshop or meeting, they will contact parents to see if they will volunteer to sub.  I do not agree with that at all.  As a former sub, I KNOW it is a lot of babysitting but I think they at least need to hire someone who has been background checked, etc...but anyway, I digress.

    RE: SNL, I am watching right now, I never can stay up late enough to watch it at night.  Anne Hathaway is just adorable...I could just break her in two.  Skinny bitch.  Lol...

    whaevah - I was just reading an article about chemobrain and it was trying to explain the hows and whys of it.  Even nearly 3 months out, I still have concentration issues.

    CindyLooWho- it is totally your perogative who you tell when and no one has the right to share that information without your permission; I don't blame you for being upset.

    Skittle - very well put.

    Teva - I told most people by email...I don't mind talking about it that way but I don't do well with phone calls or face to face for that matter.  I tend to get tongue tied and just say everything is fine.

    As for me, I am in all day today.  It is raining - yay - and going to get cooler again.  Yesterday I let my nieces and nephews come over to play so the kids stayed busy. They wanted to spend the night but no one sleeps when they do (there are 3 of them) and so they went home around dinnertime.  Friday night I took Abby to a movie because Sarah went to the playoff game and spent the night with a friend. So at least I have been getting out some.  We are planning to go to Branson next weekend for our "pre-Christmas" trip.  It will probably rain.

    Start rads Tuesday.  Had my for real planning and simulation yesterday so I am marked up all over.  I am not exactly looking forward to it but not dreading it either.  Fills are on hold for now so my PS is not happy but he can deal.  TE's still as uncomfortable as ever, I have my hospital bed for an undetermined period of time so I am back to sleeping in it so I can cocoon up and nest with pillows all around.

    Have a good Sunday all.

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited November 2012

    K- ugh I'm so sorry about the pain! I hope you breeze through rads. That's crazy about the subs! Here, a sub can have a bachelors in anything and still sub. Why should someone with a 4 year degree in History be allowed to long term sub in elementary? Now HS, I can understand.



    I have a soft spot in my heart for scared fathers. They get a free pass in my book for everything. My MIL actually called me from her vacation in Hawaii to tell me what an Ob/gyn that she met in a restaurant had told her about breast cancer...bless her heart. I'm sure I was in her Christmas Letter, I never asked. I wish I would have been a little more private but I had to explain why my life had changed so much!

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited November 2012

    Oh and if you're Catholic and prayed for a Mary from Ohio, it was probably me, lol. I'm pretty sure I was on every prayer list from here to China.

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited January 2013

    My distant female relative only goes on and on and on and on about her family in yearly X-mas letters.   Brag! Brag! Brag! Brag!Sealed

  • whaevah
    whaevah Member Posts: 354
    edited November 2012

    I will take some time today and catch up but have to quickly say;

    markat...you are killing me, really I laugh out loud at/with you...missed SNL last night as the Big Cat (DH) was snoring so loudly in front of the TV we went to bed at 8:30. Wow, can't believe I admitted that, and the truth is I slept through the night so really need it. Oh, and since you will be finished your pole dancin' gig around the same time as me, I thought you should consider changing jobs again...try Stand-Up...let me know where you are and I'll be there..oh and see if you can get camillegal to be your side kick, take turns...I'll be the white haired woman with the face paint and the martini, can't miss me I will be laughing the loudest, probably snorting too EmbarassedLaughing

  • Skittle
    Skittle Member Posts: 400
    edited November 2012

    markat--Long live genius moms!  I'm sure you've shared your wealth of humor with her, too.  (I love it when students get jokes.  Some sit like, whaaa?  and others are rolling in the aisles.)  True tale from class--one of the characters in our book study was thrilled by having seniority in the office.  Can anyone explain seniority?  Eager hand shoots up--I know!!  I know!!  Seniority is a polite name for a little bitty Spanish lady. 

    k--odd sub system.  You can't even volunteer in our schools w/o a background check.  Hope rads go well for you... and quickly fly by.

    Gotta love Christmas news letters.  The facebook of long ago and once upon a time.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited November 2012

    RE: subs - it is weird - to be a paid sub, you do have to do the application/interview/background check and to be long term, you have to be certified in something (not necessarily in the subject you are subbing for) - but these volunteer emails seem to be coming more and more often - like, we don't have enough subs and don't want to pay anyone, so can you just volunteer.  Makes me mad as a parent not knowing who may be in my child's class.

    Skittle - LMAO at the seniority comment!

    whaevah - I beat you by only a couple hours last night - esp when I take my restoril, I am out by 10.

    markat - my dad has taken this very hard...and right after I was dx, he was talking to someone (not a friend, just a casual conversation) and the first thing this man said was how his wife had died from BC - he started crying as soon as he told my mom about it :(  LOL on the prayer list - now we know you're name is Mary I guess that explains the "mar" - whenever I see your screen name I actually read it as "meerkat" - ala Timon from Lion King.

    Got a lot done today, ironing (yes, I iron), laundry caught up, now I am just sitting watching TV and listening to the rain.

  • Omeggo
    Omeggo Member Posts: 275
    edited November 2012

    I'm working today but I sure like you all!  I'd chime in about EVERYTHING but I just don't have time.  Dern.  Hey look!  I didn't swear!  Progress.

    The seniority thing is hilarious.  But I love ALL your posts, everyone. Just can't keep up at the moment.

    Big hugs!

  • Omeggo
    Omeggo Member Posts: 275
    edited November 2012

    P.S.  I shaved my head today.  Now it no longer looks like that of a little old man but I still look like an alien.  I have a very long neck.

    Everyone (generically) should shave their head once in their adult life.  It's a trip and carries with it its own little brand of adventure. Just wish it weren't "C" .

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited November 2012

    Omeggo - congrats?  I guess on the head shaving!  I tell you, I had threatened my whole life that I hate my hair so bad I just needed to shave it and start over - never thought I would actually go through with it.  Boo on working today...

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