Out of lurking with mets diagnosis
I posted a little about this on the Stage IV questions thread and realized later it probably wasn't the best choice of where to put the original question (sorry!!).
At any rate, finally had my brain and lumbar spine MRIs this week and saw my MO today. Brain is fine (yay) but cancer was definitively found in my L1 vertebrae with some possibility of a couple of smaller spots in L2 and L3. They will do a biopsy on Monday for the receptor status (and grade) confirmation and a PET scan next Friday to see if (a) my bones show up better with a PET than a bone scan (I guess it's a kind of individual thing as to which scan works better for folks...whatever one works best on showing my bones will be what they order to keep an eye on them in the future) and (b) to make sure it hasn't spread outside the bone.
At this point, the plan is to continue on with the Femara for the time being. We are wondering if maybe the mets was there the whole time (in which case the Femara has already worked some magic in the 6 months I've been taking it). Of course, we'll never know for sure. They have drawn blood to start looking at tumor markers and try to get a read on whether they will be reliable for me. She's pulled me off weekly Fosamax tablets and plans to start me on Zometa (I think that's right) infusions, as well as IV iron infusions because I've been anemic now since March. At some point after the biopsy and PET, the plan is to radiate my T11 to L3 or L4 area to zap away the pain and the lesion(s).
While I'm a little shaken and suffering from some shock at going from Stage I to Stage IV in less than a year, it's the amazing folks on these boards who so graciously and generously share their stories and their caring that has kept me from freaking out. My MO was kind of amazed that I knew as much as I did about metastasis and bone mets and I told her about BCO (and my tendency to lurk a lot). I know I have many, many good years in front of me and plan on doing my best to LIVE them.
Fair warning, I lurk more than I post as I am actually fairly shy but do hope to find a "home" here for those days when only those who are "there" will truly understand. And if I can help, if only by a virtual hug or some small amount of "I know that answer!", please be assured that I will do so.
Hugs to all....(back to breathing and thank goodness that I started knitting again...it's the only thing that kept me from jumping out of my skin in the waiting room today!)
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Hi Ysa! So sorry that the mets have been confirmed but you know we are all here for you whenever you need us......(even if its just for a ((((((hug))))).
Sure hope the change to Zometa does wonders for you as well as the rads to your spine. You can lurk if that's what helps you or not as the case may be but just know as I'm sure you do that you are not alone.
Love n hugs. Chrissy -
Welcome Ysa. I'm sorry you have had to join us in Stage IV. Please come on over though. We're a good group. By the way, I love Albuquerque!
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Thank you!
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Welcom, Ysa -
Sounds like you have a good plan in place! So sorry that you have this dx, but you will find lots of support here. I've only been here 3 weeks, and I already feel that I am getting to know the wonderful people here.
These boards are fantastic, and I'm so glad you found this place!
Hugs,
LL -
In the "are you KIDDING me?" dept....
At my biopsy yesterday it was discovered that the tumor on my spine is actually NOT malignant. It is a benign, although an unusually aggressive and large-for-its-type, vertebral hermangioma. It has grown to take up most of my L1 vertebrae and has fractured what’s left of the bone (I’ll need treatment to keep it from completely shattering and paralyzing my legs permanently [seriously, that's how they put it]…but, since IT’S NOT CANCER, that news still seems good by comparison) So, while I’m restricted to doing things that are low impact until the treatment is done (i.e. guess I’ll have to give up jogging and car accidents for the near future), this is extremely good news.
Apparently, because of its size and density, the team of radiologists (who took a CT scan to help guide the biopsy) looked at all the tests while I was still there said there was literally no way any doctor could have told it apart from a malignant tumor and that’s why everyone was convinced it was malignant and, thus, gave me the worst news. No one’s fault but thank goodness my oncologist wanted a biopsy.
I still have some other issues that need to be resolved (like why I’ve been anemic for the last 9 months…that will be treated with IV iron infusions and checked regularly…they are now wondering if I Celiac's and that’s causing the anemia…so that’s the first thing they’ll test for). I also have a severe vitamin D3 deficiency but can hopefully treat that with supplements. Other than the iron issue and the vit. D3 issue, my other labs came back looking good so I'm back to the Stage 1b diagnosis with 3 month check ups and the garden variety aromatase inhibitor complaints. Even those don't seem so bad any more.
So…HOORAY (HOORAY) for not having metastatic cancer! Right now I’m feeling totally drained from this emotional rollercoaster ride I’ve been on, but YAY!
Thank you all for your warm thoughts and support. I'll be back on the boards lurking and sending Light and virtual hugs to all. Elisabeth
EDIT TO ADD: I am removing the Stage IV/mets diagnosis on my signature line right now.. forgot to do it before submitting the post...sorry!
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That is fantastic news Ysa! Sorry you had to go through such a rollercoaster of emotions before finding that out. Take it one day at a time and be gentle with yourself. Rest up and hope you are able to get back to normal activity soon.
Hugs,
Diane
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Wow Ysa!!! That's fabulous news!!! Well you know what I mean, fabulous about it being benign but yuk about the damage it has done. Overall a worthwhile biopsy.......thank goodness for your onc!
Love n hugs. Chrissy -
What great news! I'm so sorry for the mental anguish you must have been in before getting these results. But - I'm so very happy that your onc wanted a biopsy.
Wishing you all the best and continued health,
LL -
And I'm back. Oncologist appt. today and it turns out that I do, in fact, have a hemangioma only it's two vertebrae lower (on L3) than what they are now sure is bone metastasis (on L1). The radiologist who did the MRI w/contrast (and found both the L1 tumor and the L3 hemangioma) has asked to see the CT scan that the radiologist at the imaging center took when telling me it was only a hemangioma. At this point, the treatment is going to be staying on Femara, 10 courses of radiation (in January as I'm going away for three weeks over the holiday), and monthly Xgeva shots. They hope that this will keep the L1 vertebrae from continuing to fracture (which it apparently is already doing) and allow it to heal. I'm not a candidate for any type of stabilization/repair using cement, unfortunately (there's a nice medical word for that but I'm too tired to look it up...).
When all this transpired, the MO who initially sent me for the biopsy that was never done (to rule out myeloma) was in the process of leaving the center to move to another state. I get the impression from some comments made today that she was so busy with last minute care transfer that not enough questioning may have been done, yadda yadda. My new MO (in the same center) seems great and I've heard good things about him (especially that he is VERY thorough) so I'm satisfied. He feels that my tumor markers aren't reliable but that it appears that my anemia may be caused by the bone/bone marrow metastasis. I had two weekly infusions of Feraheme that put me back up to low normal in today's labs so he is going to keep an eye on that, along with my low D3 levels. He's not going to order a biopsy at this point because he feels that I am so highly ER/PR positive that it's unlikely any receptor status would have changed with only the one spot. A biopsy will be saved for a later date if we start to see significant progression. He may have another scan ordered in January, too.
The insurance had no issues with agreeing to the Xgeva treatment (although the center told me that they might want me to do Zometa first) so was able to get my first shot today. See my MO again on 1/10 when we'll set up the radiation tx. Have had to move my next phase of reconstruction surgery back from 1/18 to after 2/1 but that's okay.
Other than feeling a bit like a yo-yo, I still feel incredibly fortunate to have doctors on top of this and to have caught the mets so early (despite all the confusion)...and that it appears that Femara jumped right in and started doing its thing.
Thank you all for your kind words before, by the way! I continue to lurk continuously and send Light and hugs to all. Elisabeth
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Hi there. I too am a lurker- recently diagnosed stage IV with similar story as its only 18 months since my stage II diagnoses (small tumour but 1 positive lymph node) and now have bone mets. I was grade 1 tumour and er+. Am glad to see your treatment is showing signs of control. I get my CT and bone scan results on Monday so will know more then. Good to see someone with similar story as I was told right from the start my "low grade" tumour was unlikely to spread. Big hugs x
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Hi there. I too am a lurker- recently diagnosed stage IV with similar story as its only 18 months since my stage II diagnoses (small tumour but 1 positive lymph node) and now have bone mets. I was grade 1 tumour and er+. Am glad to see your treatment is showing signs of control. I get my CT and bone scan results on Monday so will know more then. Good to see someone with similar story as I was told right from the start my "low grade" tumour was unlikely to spread. Big hugs x
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Come join us in the Stage 4 forum. Hell of an entry price, but a great club full of wise ladies. My head would have popped without them when I was first diagnosed.
Jennifer
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Was typing "so sorry," then "yay," then "so sorry." What a roller coaster!! What made them do scans? Scary because I have never " felt good" since diagnosis. You are the 3rd person I know who went from stage 1 to IV. My onc says no scans for stage 1.
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Sorry for the delay in responding. Was out of town for most of December and am just now catching up.
Lou-sorry to hear that you have had to join this club. How did your scans turn out?
Blaine - thank you for the invitation. I lurk in that forum a lot but haven't really felt ready to join the marvelous folks who call it home. Maybe because I only have the one small met and they were so up in the air about it at first.
Beckers - they scanned me because I reported long term, constant back and hip pain. The first was the bone scan and its results led to the lumbar MRI. It's my understanding that they usually do not order scans for stages I or II unless the patient is symptomatic over a period of time. Even now, my new MO wants to hold off doing a PET because most of my labs are fine and he wants to minimize my radiation exposure and save those scans for times when they have reason to be concerned about other areas. I will have another lumbar MRI in April to check on the existing met.
Light and hugs to you all. Elisabeth -
Thank you for sharing how it all works. Makes sense about the scans. I guess we just have to hope for the best. Makes me want to write down exactly how I feel in every area in case something changes. Don't want to miss it. Heavy sigh. Hope things go well for you!!!
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