taxotere side effects
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jeanieb - you are not a wimp!!!! As some of the others have said - chemo has a different affect on different people. One of the ladies on another thread I am on seems to have very little SE's fron Taxol/ Taxotere. The first one I had, I ended up in hospital, and really thought I was having a heart attack the pain was so bad. I also felt wimpy, but the throb of pain was literally lifting me off the bed.Two hourly morphine did not help. I felt so inadequate. Now I am a bit better I realise I have never been a wimp! I never take any painkillers - they don't agree with me, and I have only ever had about 2 weeks sick leave in about 30 years. I go to work if I can get out of bed. Some people are just hyper sensitive to the drugs.
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Nobody here is a wimp, or she wouldnt be here at all! We are here bec we chose to deal with cancer head on! We are all fighting this the best we can.
Having said that, i accepted the fact that i couldnt eat after chemo. Everything was awful, so i stopped trying. Just bought cans of Ensure to see me thru. Forced water and gatorade, then just made up on the lost nutrients on the third week when i can semi eat again. I was lucky, hemoglobin remained stable, no iv fluids needed. Just kept reminding myself to drink, drink, drink.
Jeannieb, how many more tx left for you? Sending you my hugs, too.
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bcbarbie10 - I guess you are right, if we were wimps we would not be here, I had not thought of it that way. I have 3 or 4 more treatments. I have scans on Wednesday, November 7 and will find out on Thursday, November 8, if it is working. The last time I saw my onco I asked if I was done with Taxotere and he said he would feel more comfortable doing another 3 or 4 treatments, unless he changes his mind between now and then. I did have to agree with him about doing 3 or 4 more, I would rather do enough now just to be sure and maybe not have to do them again to soon. I have only had 3 so far. Today I have actually felt like eating, but I want to eat everything I can get my hands on. I have not felt like eating like this for quite some time. I figure after Thursday I will not want to eat again anyway, in fact when I take the Decadron on Wednesday I do not feel like eating with that stuff either so I will just stock up this weekend
. I am going to go to the store and get some Ensure and Boost for the week after treatment. I do have Gatorade on hand, I will drink lots of water, along with the Ensure and am going to get my favorite ice cream and see if I can eat that during that time also. I do know that when I do eat I feel much better but we all know how hard that is when it tastes so awful or are so nauseated.
Thanks to all of you for the support, hugs and words of encouragement. I felt so good yesterday I painted Christmas ornaments all day long and today I went to a Craft show, if I could just remember that I will have these good days during the week of bad days. I will do my best to remember them this next time. I hope you all have had a good weekend. I will let you know what I find out on scans on Thursday.
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Good luck with your scans jeanie! Keep us posted.
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Been reading all the very informative posts here, and I think I have enough info to start a shopping list! I will be starting TCH on November 12. Trying to not assume I will have the bad SE's while being prepared if I do. I am very honored to be among you ladies as you battle through this journey; inspired by your strength.
Here's my list, anything to add?
- imodium
- Miralax (it's what I have on hand, sufficient?)
- anti-gas tablets
- aquaphor
- A&D (or is there another "diaper rash" ointment that's better?)
- real fruit posicles to eat during chemo
- ice water/ice during chemo
- bland foods to munch on when I don't feel like eating much
- smoothie ingredients - use yogurt to add protein
- generic Claritin
Any other triple-positives with ILC that I haven't noticed on this thread? Actually my ILC is gone after surgery!!
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powermom - you should also consider icing your finger and toes during the Taxotere portion of your chemo. I used 4 bags of frozen peas that I brought in a cooler. Check with your onc about this but nail lifting and nail loss are bad news and definitely a potential side effect of Taxotere. I would also recommend applying aquaphor to hands and feet at night and covering with cotton gloves (you can find them at Walgreens or CVS, or online) and cotton socks. I started to have some cracking and roughness and the moisturizing helps with cracking around the edges of your nails. I brought crushed ice in a Tervis tumbler, but you can use any insulated cup. I tried to hold ice in my mouth during the Taxotere portion of the infusion. Also you can swish and spit a baking soda/water combo after each tx to try to ward off mouth sores. My BIL is a gastroenterologist - Miralax is what he recommends so you are good there. Don't medicate the Big C or the Big D until you figure out which one you may have. Good luck!
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Thank you SpecialK. I am off for a shopping trip this afternoon.
BTW, I think your ID is very fitting --- you are definitely "Special."
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Ahhh, thanks!
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I got my scan results today and the bone scan stayed the same, no new spots, the CT scan showed some thinning of the omentum, he said it is hard to tell how much with this type because it is a layer and not like a tumor that can be measured, but it had thinned from the last time and my markers were down to 90 from 107. I know those are low markers but when they get to 100 it bothers me. I asked if the CT scan should have showed more thinning than it did and he said no that for only 3 treatments it is right on track and he was happy with it so that makes me happy. I took my 4th treatment today, I asked how many more and he said 3 more then we would re-evaluate and go from there. I have the feeling it will be 3 more after that but we shall see. I also wanted to know what my markers should get to and he said "my answer is kind of dumb, but as low as we can get them", he went on to say everyone is different and when they reach a point that they neither go up or down then that is where they should be for me. He has also told me, and I knew this, but the markers are just one of the indicators they look at. He wants me to come back next Thursday for counts and just scheduled me to get fluids since I have had them 2 out of 3 times and he knows I feel much better after I get them because I have gotten dehydrated and run a low grade temp, along with diarrhea, and not eating. This way if I need a Neulasta shot I can get it at the same time. Last Thursday when I went for counts the white count was at 14 up from .62 the week before and today, two weeks after the shot they were at 6.35, but I just finished a week of Xeloda, but I did not realize they could jump around that much.
Overall I feel pretty good about the results and hope and pray Taxotere continues to work for me. I hope it can get me to the point to be able to take a chemo break for 6 months or more. I have kept a journal this last month on how I felt everyday after treatment, so when I think I am at my low point I can look at it and see how many days until I am feeling good again. I thought I could remember the first times but I didn't so decided to keep the journal. I am thankful for this site, it has helped me so much and I have to agree with Powermom, Special K is very special along with PAeagleFan and bcbarbie10, and lots of others that have helped me get through this and sending me hugs, they really do help, the cyber hugs work wonders. Sending cyber hugs to you all.
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Prevacid is my friend! TC #2 yesterday afternoon and none of that horrid "chemical belching" that plagued me for three days last time. The chemo nurse recommended Prevacid OTC for day before, of and several days after treatment. It worked! I didn't even need the Atavan last night, I did take one anti-nausea pill before bed and almost took another at 3 AM but was able to go without. Very tired today but that's the worst of it. Sunday will be the true test, though!
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Hugs to you, Jeanieb!
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Thanks bcbarbie10..
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You have been thru so much already Jeanie and you are keeping such a good attitude. Prayers that the chemo is doing its job and you can have a break soon.
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PAeaglesFan - Thank you, I do try my hardest to keep that positive attitude, and for the most part I can do it. It just seems like the low points of the Tax, you know the time, things creep into my mind that should not be there, but just for a little while, then I just brush them right on out of there. I think this time may be a little better, maybe just knowing what is going to happen, or adjusting to it or both. I thank you for the prayers, they are certainly welcome and that is what gets me through this. I am on Xeloda this week along with the Tax so am curious what my counts will be on Thursday. It just makes me wonder if it even affects it. I have never had a problem with the Xeloda causing very low counts, but maybe the two together could have some effect, we shall see. Hope all is well with you.
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Jeannie - still thinking of you and still sending you ((((hugs))))
The taxotere really does mess with your head. I have always been positive - but T does make that really hard. There were times on it I wished I could just die and have the whole thing over with. That's the only time I've ever had those sorts of thoughts, but I was so sick I just wanted it over.Hang in there sweetie, you'll get through this, we are all holding your hand and holding you up.
Trish
xoxo
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Trisha-Anne - Thanks so much for the hugs, hand holding and helping me through this. I am glad to hear that you had some of the same thoughts. I thought it was me feeling sorry for myself and that is not the kind of person I am. When people have asked if I don't wonder "why me", my response is "why not me, what makes me so special it should not happen to me", so when I was thinking some of these things I was beginning to wonder about myself. Now I know it may be a common thing so I just won"t let it bother me anymore. It will be a week ago tomorrow that I had treatment, so I will go tomorrow for fluids, that usually perks me up and then I should be over the hump and half way to normal, whatever normal is anymore
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i too have taxatere and have many of the same se i fet my tx on mondays and all shit hits the fan on wed every time so wed thurs fri i say thats itvi quit id rsther die than do this then it starts to ease well for next tx that sat i have my work xmas party so am really trying to make it i was told by mo that the fatique will not go away by sleeping and to walk as much as possible to get blood to the muscles and get lots of proteins so my husband says he will drag me up to go for lots of walks snd i have all my ensures ready that metal taste is pretty overwelming also black licorice helps
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This thread has grown quiet. I hope everyone is doing well and looking forward to the holidays.
I finished my chemo almost 3 months ago already and now I look back and wonder "Did that really happen to me?" Of course I get that answer when I look in the mirror lol Hair is coming back but not as fast as I'd like it too! -
Hello ladies - sorry I have been missing but have been up to Washington, D.C. for my last vaccine trial visit, now just have skin testing to do - will be leaving Sunday for that trip, then I am done and don't have to go back for 6 months. I am having a PET scan and hopefully the last of reconstructoin surgeries the second week of December, so I hope all of that goes well. Trying to get my Christmas stuff done since I don't know how I will be feeling in the 10 days between the surgery and Christmas so I have been busy and not online as much!
Hope all of you that are in treatment now are hanging in there!
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To Beth BV: Prevacid is a Godsend. My problem was awful stomach and gut pain for a week, after the first chemo. Couldn't eat hardly anything. Before the second round I too started Prevacid, 2 days before and several days beyond that - and very little stomach ache! Like a miracle. The onco said she thought it was a reaction to the steroids. Oh, and the chemo nurses also approved reducing the day-before and day-after steroid tablets. Instead of 2 tabs morning and night day before and day after, I take only one tab the night before and 1 tab the morning and evening the day after. Doc approved, and no ill effects.
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Also keep in mind that chemo can have a deleterious effect on all soft tissue - so digestive system from top to bottom - can be affected. I had the first three tx only having steroids in my day-of tx pre-meds. I had a UTI (soft tissue irritation) and was prescribed antibiotics, then developed a rash. I was sure it was from the abx because I am allergic to many of them, but because the doc could not guarantee it, I then received the before/during/after dosing of steroids just in case the rash was caused by Taxotere. I suffered from the crushing fatigue and upper GI SE that would start after that last steroid dose, so I started halving the after tx dosing and stretching it out for two more days and did a lot better with those SE.
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I went on Tax in August after being on Gemzar and it not working....and the end of the August I was admitted to the hospital with an abcess surrounding the spleen (sepetic). I had spend months after chemo for 5 - 6 days, lost 35 lbs to get up and do it all over again. I went off of chemo for 2 months and recently went back on of Taxotere 2 weeks on a 1 off, but will go back to 3 weeks on and 1 weeks off maybe tomorrow, depending on what the dr. says today.... I thought initially that me being sick was a result of the chemo but it wasn't. I haven't had any side effects since I started again but it was only 1 round...Unfortunately, you wait for the other shoe to drop, cause you never know what will happen...
Sandy
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Hi ladies
So glad I found this thread.
I am on day 8 post 2nd chemo ...1more Tax to go thank goodness.
Not only does this mess with your head but does horrible things on the outside to you, Im over going out so people dont look at me like I am a snake shedding skin (mu hands were terribely peeling) noe on the thumb joints both sides it looks like I have been burnt no blisters..just reddy/purply colour!
The balls of my feet are killing me...was suppose to go out with friends today for our kids to have a play though unlike me..will be giving that a miss...i almost just fell out getting out of bed! Anyone else have or had this and if so us there ANYTHING that can be done to eleviate pain???
Thanks for listening...next tax 12th dec bring it on then CMF x3! -
Hi everybody, I have just been busy during treatment cycles trying to get all of my Christmas things out along with getting the tree up. I felt pretty good last week so started last Monday getting everything out, finally finished today. I had a good Thanksgiving, finally ate a good meal because everything tasted so good, even had a second helping of a few things. I go again Thursday to get my next Tax treatment and started Xeloda yesterday so last week was a good week for Thanksgiving. Xeloda makes me a little nauseated also so when the Tax and X are in the same week that always helps, I figure that way I won't ruin 2 weeks
. I will have my 6th Tax treatment on December 20th and then will scan the first part of January to see if I have to continue or not. I keep telling my sister to call me next Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday to remind me that I will feel better. I always think the 3rd thru the 10th day that I will never feel good again, I forget how good I feel today and that I will be better by the 12th or 13th day, depending on how low my white count gets.
Traii - I have not had the problem with my feet like you have. I do have the really red, burning feet and numb finger tips but I think that is from the Xeloda I am taking along with the Tax. I know hand and foot syndrome go along with Xeloda, but maybe someone else can tell you if this is also from the Tax. I never asked my onco, since I have had the hand and foot stuff for a year due to X. I hope you can find some relief from it.
I was wondering if anyone had their hair grow back while taking Tax? Mine is growing, but I know it also falls out some after each treatment. Did you just keep shaving your head or did you just let it grow back and when it got long enough have it trimmed up to even it or did it stay so thin you continued to wear a wig? Just wondering what to do, let it just grow or shave it again one more time. I know I have at least 2 more treatments and maybe 3 more after that, don't have the answer to that yet.
I hope everyone is doing well and can enjoy the holidays. I also hope 2013 holds good and exciting things for all of us. I am looking forward to being done with Tax. When I started the onco told me that it was a well tolerated chemo, now I wonder who in the world he was talking about, guess I will have to ask him. Oh, I really can not complain if it is doing its job, I can tolerate being out of it for 12 days out of 21, it could always be worse.
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Xeloda was horrible for me, sick all the time, peeling feet and hands, fingernails, lifting hair didn't fall out....and bathed in udderly smooth, which I still use.....tomorrow tax and then to the drs. again (after going today) cause the abcess that is back and the pain is still there, he wants to see if it has gone away.....messing with your head, can you explain? I have chemo brain all the time, wonder what you all are seeing.....I love this site....
Sandy
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I haven't had the peeling skin (knock on wood!). That is one SE I do NOT want.
As for the hair, my daughter came up to my just the other day, patted my head and said, "Mom! You're growing some hair!" I had thought so but wasn't positive. But yes, yes, my hair is growing. I love my wig, though, and my hair is very sparse so I think I'll just keep it covered.
I go for round #3 on Thursday. I still don't know if I'm doing 4 rounds or 6. Maybe we'll have a better idea after seeing the doctor on Thursday.
I do love the Prevacid. Now I just have to figure out how to keep my mouth happy and my taste buds alive!
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Trail, the balls of my feet are burning, too, not red though, just the sensation. And i didnt have Xeloda.
Jeanieb, you are so right, lets all hope for a better, healthier, happier 2013. PLEASE!!! -
Amen to that ladies! I will be more than happy to close the book on 2012. But I will always remember and be thankful for the support that got me thru the year...family, friends, Dr's, nurses and the friends I have found thru these boards.
It was such a comfort to me when I was having my bad chemo days that I could log into these boards and share my experiences with someone else who totally understood what I felt like. There were times I would log in at some crazy hour of the morning just to read what others had posted and knowing I wasn't alone was so uplifting. Family and friends were wonderful but they had NO IDEA what coping with the Big D or the Big C, the loss of tastebuds, and the just plain miserableness of chemo.
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