Should my TN friend have chemo No 6?

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jackboo09
jackboo09 Member Posts: 920

Hi to everyone on this thread. I am trying to help a fellow BC patient whom I have become friends with. We met during my final few Herceptin infusions at the clinic. One week ago she had chemo No 5 and Ive just heard that she is in hospital following an infection. This has happened before and previously she developed pneumonia. Her doctors are now questioning whether to proceed with her final chemo treatment. She has asked for my advice but Im a bit in the dark about TN. How aggresive is it? Did any of you face a similar dilemma and what did you decide. If you can help I would be very grateful.

Best wishes

Liz

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  • sylviaexmouthuk
    sylviaexmouthuk Member Posts: 7,847
    edited May 2012

    Hello jackboo2009,

    I was interested to read your post about your TNBC friend.

    Patients do have ups and downs on chemotherapy, get infections due to low white blood cell or red blood cell counts and sometimes have to go into hospital to have things put right. Your friend should go by the advice of her oncologist.

    If that were me, I think I would give myself time to recover and then have the final dose of chemotherapy.

    I noticed you are from the UK. You and your friend are welcome to join us on Calling all Triple Negatives in the UK. You will find ladies who had the same problems as your friend and some who are having them now.

    Warm thought to fellow Brits.

    Sylvia.

  • jackboo09
    jackboo09 Member Posts: 920
    edited May 2012

    Hi Sylvia

    Thank you for replying. My friend has 2 weeks to make a very difficult decision. We share the same onco. He wants to see her before the next chemo to discuss possibly calling it a day. Emma is diabetic also and mum to two young children. At just 32 with a two year old I suppose she is more likely to pick up infections as her son attends a nursery and coughs and colds are always abound! She is node negative and had a mx. Its a dilemma.

    Thank you for your invitation to join the thread and your reply. Im going to visit E next week and introduce her to BCO.

    Liz 

  • epgnyc
    epgnyc Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2012

    Liz,

    What a good friend you are!  Last year I had my 2nd bout with TNBC and chemo this time was much tougher for me.  During the course of my 8 chemo treatments (4 AC + 4 Taxol) I ended up in the hospital 4 different times because of infections.  The first hospitalization was after my very first AC treatment and I was in the hospital for 4 days.  They had to cut the dose of my AC treatments from that point on since I had a "0" white blood count.  I also had trouble with Taxol.  They thought I was allergic and wanted to stop treatment after the 1st one, but I insisted to my oncologist that he send me to see an allergy specialist.  I did see someone and they said I could continue -- this despite a horrendous skin rash I'd developed.  I was supposed to be on Dose Dense (chemo every 2 weeks) but because of all the adverse effects and hospitalizations, half of my treatments had 3 weeks in between.

    Given that your friend is so young with young children, if I were her I'd want to do everything possible in the way of chemo....which is our only defense against this awful disease.  Of course she needs to listen to her oncologist but I too would recommend that she take an extra week or two between treatments and try to finish up with the 6th treatment.  Maybe she could think about wearing a face mask and gloves at home after her treatment because of her small children?  I live in NYC and I wore white gloves between treatments because of all my infections and the City being what it is.

    Best of luck to the both of you, 

    Ellen

  • jackboo09
    jackboo09 Member Posts: 920
    edited May 2012

    Hi Ellen

    Thank you for responding. Very sorry to hear that you have had to face this nightmare again. Bc truly sucks. I will pass on your comments to Emma. I cant visit her just now as I have a cold. Over the last few days I have been thinking about her decision and I think if it was me I would want to finish up chemo. Wouldn't it be better for her if she was hospitalised for this last one, or am I being too cautious?

    Best wishes from the sunny UK (yipee it hasnt been good here for months)

    Liz 

  • yellowdoglady
    yellowdoglady Member Posts: 349
    edited May 2012

    I too believe that finishing treatment is best if possible.

    I had six rounds myself.  On the fifth, the needle slipped and burned my hand badly, from the inside out.  I'd refused a port, so that arm was off bounds and the other where I'd had nodes removed was off bounds as well.  We tried the ankles, but I'd had a potato chip feeding frenzy the day before and they were too swollen to get a needle in.  I was intent on getting done on schedule, so there was a call to the nearest hospital, and I drove over to receive a PIIC line, then back to get the appointed dose.  Those potato chips cost me over $900 but I finished my treatment, and on schedule.

    My point is that if the patient wants to get it all done, every effort will be made to see it is.  Your friend may need a couple or few days away from the little ones or a boost to the blood to make that happen, but those things can be arranged if she wants to finish.  The last dose may be monitored from start to finish or she may need observation after.  Or antibiotics after.  Anything is possible.  I haven't heard a doctor yet who will say no if there are options to assure a patient's safety.  

  • jackboo09
    jackboo09 Member Posts: 920
    edited May 2012

    Hi Yellowdoglady (great name!)

    Thank you. I now think it would be better for Emma to try and complete treatment. However, it appears her home situation is tricky with young children. Only this week her 5 year old was off school with tonsillitis.

    She seems to have been told that the chemo is only precautionary and that the cancer has gone. I am Her2+ and know lots about this type of bC, but not as much about TN. So forgive me if I get this wrong, but I was under the impression that TN is also (like Her2+) an aggressive form of this horrible disease?

    Best wishes to you 

    Liz

  • netty46
    netty46 Member Posts: 296
    edited November 2012

    Hi Ellen



    . How are you doing now ? Did they ever tell you that it might be a new primary? Did you finally have a double Masectomy? I'm going thru your exact situation right now. I was treated at Sloan Kettering in ny first time 12 yrs back. They gave me CMF chemo and radiation back then. How often do you have to be scanned now? How do they follow up?

  • marywh
    marywh Member Posts: 2,280
    edited November 2012

    My advise to your friend is to finish up her chemo if she can. TN is extremely sneaky. I went three years and then it came back with a vengence. The only thing we have to rely on is chemo. I missed a couple of doses last feb. when my mom died and was dx again this last aug. I dont think it ever really went away. This is really not meant to scare anyone, you just have to be very very diligent in your treatment.

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