MIDDLE-AGED WOMEN 40-60ish

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2012

    TAB, sometimes rads are needed even after a BMX. My cancer was advanced, and the onc was concerned about the nodes in the clavicle as well as the remaining nodes in the axilla. They were also concerned about recurrence in the scar line.

    Native, I am sorry you had so much trouble with the stupid rads. For me it certainly was not a piece of cake. I got very tired during and after for quite a while, but it was nowhere near as bad as what you had to suffer through.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited November 2012

    This is way off topic AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO INTO IT ON THIS THREAD which I would like to remain focused on Breast Cancer, and our middle-aged lives without becoming a catch-all for every possible middle-aged horror out there.  Please do not write to me in a sympathetic way, but if you are one who has experience and knowledge about this, then post or PM and I may like to get info. from you at some point, if you don't mind.

    I have colon cancer.  Oh, by the way, much like my mammogram and B/C, the colonoscopy I had 1 & 1/2 years ago missed the C/C too.  That's two strikes against those well touted screening tools, IMO.  I don't know anything yet (and you won't read the blow-by-blow here either.)  I'm already bored with it.  Upset too, of course, but B/C has taught me that I know how to "put the big girl panties on" one leg at a time.  I know how to "just show up."  Did I mention being really, really angry?  Because I AM!

  • justmejanis
    justmejanis Member Posts: 1,847
    edited November 2012

    Reality my youngest son is 33 and lives in CO also.  He has remained pretty distant from my cancer.  Basically just wanted to know what it was and the treatment.  But he remained fairly distant.  Maybe your daughter has a difficult time living there and seeing the day to day grind of your treatments. 

    Barbe I sweat terribly at night.  I keep extra clean tee-shirts near the bed, and fresh pillows.

    Eli........:(

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited November 2012

    Elimar: All I can offer is {{{{hugs}}}} to you.  And, I'd be furious too!

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited November 2012

    Was your first thought. "Well, she shouldn't have snacked on all those Cheetos?"  Don't feel bad if it was. 

    Was your second thought, "The aliens could have inplanted it, when they did the probe on her?"  If so, you should scold yourself on that one.

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    Next week, Tues., is my 6 mo. appt. with the MO.  It will be interesting to see if the routine bloodwork comes back normal.  My MO never did TMs,  If he did, I wonder if they would have registered as high, but aren't the TMs usually checked the ones that are specific to B/C? 

    Does anyone know about this:  Would I have less of a risk for bloodclots (relating to surgery) if I come off the Tamox. now?  I think a few of you take Tamox. & have had surgeries.  Was it an issue?  I'll be checking with the MO, and will try to remember to post his answer, since something like this might come up for someone else too.

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited November 2012

    Nah.  My first thought with colon cancer is "What a shitty disease!"  Sorry...

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited November 2012

    Snort, snort!  ALL those puns will be intended from now on.  I was like, "Oh, is that a brown ribbon?"  (I should check.  It probably is!)

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited November 2012

    It would pretty much have to be a brown ribbon!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2012

    You people! :D Still, elimar, that sucks and I am sorry, even if you issued strict orders to lay off that kind of thing. Brown ribbon, tsk, tsk.

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited November 2012

    Elimar...♥ 

    Hugs

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited November 2012

    Elimar: You called it; brown ribbon it is.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited November 2012

    Barbe 1958- I don't sweat with these hot flashes. Just feel like I am in an oven and turn red, especially my ears. I have never had enough sweat to even need deodorant unless it is like 100 degree's out. Just weird I guess. It is actually a pillow case that is designed for chemo patients.  It says for Natural hair care while you sleep. It came with other stuff from an organization that gives out bags full of stuff that come in handy while going through chemo.

    Today at work the kitchen crew and I did a toast while I took the last of the chemo pills. Done with that !!!!! Next hurdle is boob deflation Cry and on to rads.

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited November 2012

    CONGRATS VAL on 4 YEARS OUT!!!! That is wonderful to hear.  I can relate to the old me vs new me.  So much has changed, even though I've tried to keep things as consistest and seamless as possible.  I'm very fortunate to have all the blessings I do have, so I'm not at all complaining .... but there is obviously a part of me that wishes I would wake up from a deep sleep and that none of this had happened. Sometimes when I take a nap, I try to live that ... I think I can go to sleep, and maybe it really is not reality, but invariably I wake up from my nap and find that it is reality. I do try to dream this into a dream, but it hasn't worked yet, so I've decided to move forward and start living again. 

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited November 2012

    So long to chemo...Happy Dance for you Dianarose!

    With the hot flashes, I always described it as my "head being trapped in a sauna," but actually there is not much sweating for me either.  (Note to some of you who take Effexor for the Flashes.  Effexor can have excessive sweating as a side effect.  I noticed a lot more sweating the first two weeks I went on Effexor, then it settled down.  I am not taking it currently.)

    Welcome, InspiredbyDolce!  We have to be content that we are still able to dream.  Forward is a good direction.  Smile

  • JRyan
    JRyan Member Posts: 178
    edited November 2012

    Thanks for all the hot flash tips! Today was a bit better.

    Elimar, You can do this. My heart goes out to you.Obviously your head is in the right place, especially if you can find humor in the brown ribbon! Good for you, kick this s$#t!

    Dianarose, Yah! Done with chemo! On to the next step. It feels good to complete a step in this journey.



    As I crawled in bed last night, I decided that I needed to start 'living' again. I've been moping about, having a really difficult time pulling myself out of this sadness. I just finished the hardest fight of my life, thus far, and came through with a great life in front of me. Enough already! I did great until my drive home from work... the car in front of me had a sticker that said f%*k cancer, and i started crying. Ugh. Maybe tomorrow ... ;)

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited November 2012

    Valjean woohoo on 4 years

    Diana good ad to chemo happy dance

    Eli I really hate hearing the news. I know you have had so many problems here lately in that area. Couldn't Colin cancer have a prettier ribbon? Really brown. You asked about tamox and surgery. For my BMX I was off 2 weeks before and after surgery. For exchange I was off 1 week before and after. I have heard other docs don't take you off at all but I always go with caution and my MO said long term would not matter that I was off of it like I was. Oh and I would be down right pissed. Please keep us posted

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited November 2012

    Sherryc,  That was my common sense reasoning about going off the Tamox. before a surgery since, as you pointed out, taking an interval break from the Tamox. for a good reason like that is not a big deal in the 5-year scheme of things.  O.K., it seems at least some docs think along those lines too.

  • Paula66
    Paula66 Member Posts: 1,728
    edited November 2012

    Eli :-(

    Valgean 4 years congrats to you!

  • Valjean
    Valjean Member Posts: 1,898
    edited November 2012

    Thank you, everyone, for the congratulations!

    My hot flashes have finally lessened since I have been on the second-time-around Aromasin, thank goodness. (was off for three months on a different manufacturer & when I returned to the manuf. I wanted, the hot flashes returned tenfold!!)  I always felt like I was going to implode - the heat was all within me & I didn't (don't) sweat. Just get HOT!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    Eli...(hugs).....I'm having my DIEP on Friday. My instructions at the pre-op were to take my Tamoxifen the day of surgery with just a sip of water.....only stopped the LD aspirin and multi-vitamin (due to the vitamin E) for the two weeks prior.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2012

    JRyan, I had a similar funk after finishing treatment. I think it is pretty normal. You have just lost all your estrogen, quite brutally, and the adrenalin from being in fight-mode has run out. If it does not lift soon, do talk to your doc. No reason to be a hero about it. I do find that exercise and eating properly help. Hope you feel better soon.

    A brown ribbon? Really??? ROFL, that is just so, so bad.

  • iatigger
    iatigger Member Posts: 447
    edited November 2012

    Going to get my first fill today since surgery. Not sure what to expect. I am just getting comfortable in the stretched skin so hoping it doesn't take that away too much. My exercise coach was happy with my range of motion so maybe it won't be so bad.



    Still waiting my Oncotype score to see if chemo is in my future or not. Hoping NOT! Didn't think I would still be playing the waiting game post surgery.



    A happy note for today, this is the last day of those annoying election commercials and phone calls!



    Happy Tuesday everyone!

  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited November 2012

    Eli - :( sorry to hear of your dx. Thinking of you and sending ((hugs)) your way.

    Diana - congrats on your last chemo!

    Valjean - 4yrs is wonderful! Here's to many, many more. 

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited November 2012

    Elimar- I don't blame you for being angry. Enough is Enough for all of us. Question, can the colon cancer be related to the breast cancer? I am not sure of all the dam places our breast cancer can travel to.

    Hugs to you my friend.......

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited November 2012

    Dianarose, No.  I may be wrong, but I believe the most likely sites for metastasis are, in order of liklihood:  Bones, Liver, Lungs, Brain.  (Other places are possible, but those are the top four.)

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited November 2012

    Oh CRAP elimar!! That is just so SHITTY!!! What a BUMMER!! You must feel so angry! I know I would. Like, we've already done this God... Hugs to you, sweetie, do keep us posted here as this is your thread and we DO care!!! ( capitalized DO as in DO-DO)...hehehhehe

  • Dakota212
    Dakota212 Member Posts: 1,153
    edited November 2012

    Hi ladies,

    If I just had the sentinel node removed/ biopsied can I have blood pressures on that arm?

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited November 2012

    Hey Dakota.  Generally, it's advised not to have bp or any needle sticks in the snb arm.

    Which Dakota are you? North or South?

  • Dakota212
    Dakota212 Member Posts: 1,153
    edited November 2012

    Cindy-



    Funny I am in MA!!! My dog is Dakota ;)

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited November 2012

    Dakota212,  I don't think having the blood pressure cuff squeezing you on that side is a good idea.  Go with your other arm.

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