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  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited November 2012

    Thanks so much, Luvmygoats. I truly am proud of him and love him more than I can ever express.

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited November 2012

    barbe - I bet your kids do remember, barbe and I bet they are so very thankful to have you in their lives. I am!

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited November 2012

    I agree with native on the rads issue. I did lump and rads with lots if damage. Ended up having a BMX and they made me wait one year post rads befor I could move forward. I had 3 PS opinions all said the same thing. I know many have rads with no problems but many have long lasting problems. Good to have all your info going into this
    Sherry what a sweet caring son you have
    Diana I use the date my cancer was removed

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited November 2012

    I think I am going to go with the BMX date. The day I got rid of the beasts. Also all the other dates are pretty much a blur now. Chemo brain is so real for me. I am hoping I will be able to sleep again once all the poison has left my system. I have had 3 ocular migraines in the past month and I know it is from lack of sleep.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited November 2012

    Getting your B/C diagnosis is like the day a hurricane makes landfall, and it takes a long time to rebuild after that and get to your "new normal," which is never quite the same as before the B/C storm hit. 

    That's my analogy for today.

    Bobbisil, Good Luck with the pros and cons on choosing a surgery.  The ladies here are so right that you don't want to make a short term decision that will compromise your long term goal.

    Reality, What a loving gesture from your son AND good role-modelling for the grandkids too!

  • justmejanis
    justmejanis Member Posts: 1,847
    edited November 2012

    Reality your post really touched me.  My oldest son is also 36.  He will likely be here for Thanksgiving.  I haven't seen him in almost three years!  Be thankful your son is near you.  We are in an extreme economic depression so for us, travel is simply not possible.  I can't wait to hug my son!  Being so far away I think this was hard for him to deal with.  Your son sounds wonderful, you are truly blessed. 

    I know radiation is tough, and a hard decision to make.  I burned pretty badly and that was miserable for a few weeks until I finally healed.  I have no clue what kind of shape my lungs and heart are in.  Hopefully nothing serious.  I think I would know by now.

    Eph I am sorry you have to make these trips alone.  I was not fortunate to live near my mom.  My first husband was a geologist and we moved a lot.  I left the city my parents lived in when I was 19, never went back.  We only got to see one another about once a year or so.  I cherished her visits.  I lost her to lung cancer almost 13 years ago.  I can't believe she has been gone so long.  My heart goes out to you.  All of the 'first' milestones are so difficult.  The raw pain does get easier but you never stop missing your mom.  Hugs to you!

    I am with Barbe on the date.  I was told I had breast cancer on July st.  So for me, that is my date.

    Eli I like your analogy.  It sure is true!

  • marlegal
    marlegal Member Posts: 2,264
    edited November 2012

    Answering as I read ... Barbe - storm proofing - cutting the branches back and down so less sway in the wind. If a tree is old and water-logged, nothing will save it but for healthy trees, keeping them from being too top heavy and growing out  too far goes a longggg way! And the bay didn't save us, but we have several hundred feet of wetlands and reeds between the back of the campground and where the bay actually starts. That area absorbed most of the water from the bay that "surged" during the storm, so what made it into the campground wasn't catastrophic.

  • marlegal
    marlegal Member Posts: 2,264
    edited November 2012

    Sherry, what a moment you will always remember. Definitely a tear jerker read for me :)

    Native...you shared important information - no way should anyone be offended by that. Like barsco said, everyone needs to know the good the bad and the ugly. I for one always seem to learn something from your posts and enjoy them immensely.

    Diana - for me I use the date I got my results because it's the one I remember most clearly. I had my surgery within two weeks, so small time frame between dx and getting my cancer out.  I saw my chemo and radiation as backup protection, I believe in my heart that my surgery rid me of cancer.

  • marlegal
    marlegal Member Posts: 2,264
    edited November 2012

    Joni, big hugs to you hon. I hope the day worked out for you. Those "firsts" suck. My mom died in 1989 and I swear, I can still remember that whole year of firsts after she died.

    Diana, I suffered from ocular migraines for years. They thought it hormonal - started with first pregnancy, then eased for a while (meaning only a few a year) then beefed up when I was pre-men and hormones were raging - had several a month during that time period - then a lot during stress of the whole cancer year. Luckily, I can now state that I've had maybe a total of 10 in the last 7 yrs - and those have been nowhere near as severe as they used to be. So hang in there - hope sleep comes to you one way or another - and I hope you follow my same path that once you're through this, they almost go away. Hugs sweetie.

  • JRyan
    JRyan Member Posts: 178
    edited November 2012

    Does anyone have any suggestions on how to manage hot flashes? I was handling them ok during chemopause but since ovary removal last week, they have really gotten bad, especially at night. I really hate this crap. I am 43 yo. Any help would be appreciated.

  • Catnz
    Catnz Member Posts: 20
    edited November 2012

    Hi JRyan, something that I use for hot flushes is evening primrose oil capsules three times a day. I checked with my pharmacist and they are safe to use with Tamoxifen. I still get the occasional one every now and then but it has helped immensely. Hope this helps as they can really get you down at times, Cath

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited November 2012

    I survived.  It was touch & go at one bazaar when a vendor asked "where Mom & Rachel" are; I got it out & she came around & gave me a big ole hug & I lost it right there, but was able to hide in her hug for an extra minute to get it together.  Mind you this is a woman I see once a year, but we've been buying from her for years.  So, anyway, that "1st" is done...the rest of them should be easier---it says here!

  • Beckers
    Beckers Member Posts: 1,883
    edited November 2012

    Reality - What a touching moment with your son. I am so glad he was able to express his emotions and love like that. (Gave me goose bumps imagining it.) I have 2 sons, 25 and 20.



    I had bilat cancer and lumpectomies last spring and when I met with radiation oncologist, who was very honest about potential SE's, i decided no way with so much area being radiated. Breast cancer was bad enough. So decision made for BMX and I haven't looked back!



    JRyan - I take 75 mg of Effexor, take Tamoxifen.... and very few hot flashes. I did have bilat ooph in '08 though, but suffered from hot flashes all over again, as they took me off Estriadol when I was diagnosed last Mar. I also use what's called a Chillow Pillow at night when I have a hot flash. You can find online.



    Nausea seems to be escalating and I started Tamoxifen on 10/13 ???? Not sure if that is normal. It's tolerable though. I had Annie (3 HR old GD) for 2 days and boy am I tired! My poor Mom is still struggling with lightheadedness, so I was busy helping her and my brother all last week. Cardiologist says she's been in a-fib since 30th, but said meds can be more damaging. Also, turns out her autonomic nervous system is not regulating

    BP on standing causing orthostatic hypotension. It's a worry. It's been hard on her since my Father passed 7 months ago. Does it ever sink in when a parent dies? We feel such a loss still. Easier to some extent.... but sure miss having him around.



    Hope everyone else is doing well. Thanks for listening. Gnite.

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited November 2012

    Dear justmejanis - Thank you for your response to my post about my son. I am so glad you will be seeing your son soon. I know how very fortunate I am to have mine near by. He only lives 10 mins. from my home. I am having dinner at his house tonight and will spend the night - we are planning to have a "jammie party" with my grandchildren and grand-dog (Titus - a four-year-old big baby English bulldog, who loves to sleep with me!)

    My younger son, 32, lives in CO. We email or text every day. I am not dishonest with him about my BC, but I do not share all the details with him as it is so hard on him being so far from NYS. He visited this past summer, but I will not see him until next summer as he is in college and our family funds are also quite limited. 

    Best wishes to you for a great holiday with family - You will be in my thoughts. 

    Sherry

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited November 2012

    Thanks, also, to all who were touched by my post about my son - Hugs to all!

    Janis - ...forgot to mention - did not really forget, just avoiding topic...My youngest child, my daughter, 31, has not remained as close to me during BC as my sons have. She has been living with me this year, but plans to move 10 mins. away next week. We both know that it is time for her to move. We love each other dearly, but I believe she just cannot handle seeing me with BC every day (bald, sunken eyes, etc...) I try my best to always be upbeat around her, but she sees through me. For example, I had my port put in this past Fri. - let's face it, I am in pain - I do not, however, tell her that, but she knows. It's almost as those she is angry at me for having BC. I just do not know - she has always been my most challenging child....She works hard as a CNA at a local nursing home - she is compassionate and caring all day - I believe she just cannot handle is at home, too. 

    Thanks for listening and caring, 

    Sherry

  • mumito
    mumito Member Posts: 4,562
    edited November 2012

    For me it was the day I was DXed Never forget it.I felt like I had been run over by a Mack Truck.Even worse I was alone with no one to turn to that day.CryBut that was 4 years ago and I am going on strong and so far NEDLaughing

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited November 2012

    Sherry, it seems unfornuate timing with your daughter moving out. Will that leave you all alone???

    JRyan, my trick for night flashes is lying on a bath sheet (towel) over my pillow and down my whole body length and naked if you can handle it. NO sheets with polyester in them!!! Most of them DO have man-made fibres so be careful. The towel is the best as it soaks up any sweat before you realize that you are soaked! I also only use a top sheet to cover myself and keep my feet exposed. 

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited November 2012

    I am using my BMX date, as that is when they told me I was officially 'in remission'.  I was DX on 12/27/2012 and I had a BMX on 1/4/2012.

    NativeMainer has a good point for her date.  

    It depends on how you look at it and what you want your date to be a symbol of.  I'm choosing my date to be a symbol of having cancer out of my body and having a joyous reason to celebrate.

    It will be nice to enjoy this Christmas.  Last Christmas we were waiting on biopsy results, which took longer due to the holidays.  My biopsy was on 12/22/11 and results on 12/27/11.  I call it "Christmas Interrupted".  We are calling this Christmas "A Do-Over".  LOL  :)

  • marlegal
    marlegal Member Posts: 2,264
    edited November 2012

    Beckers - are you thinking your nausea is from the Tamoxifen? I'd talk to onco to see if that's expected. Not sure I'd heard of that particular side effect from Tamox. I'd hope they could give you something to combat that too. If they do think it's from the tamox, maybe you could take half a pill in AM and the other half in PM, I've heard of others doing that.

    Reality - I hope things work out with your daughter and for your daughter. Maybe she'll actually have a better perspective if she's removed from the day-to-day living with you and wind up helping more. Hugs.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited November 2012

    Waht an awesome fall photo E!  Love it.  Great representation of my favorite time of year. 

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited November 2012

    Jryan my hot flashes finally became unbearable and Onco put me on 37.5mg if Effexor. Very few hot flashes since then.

    Backers I also got very neauseated with tamox but mine was at the very beginning. I am now on Prilosec to combat the neausea

  • Beckers
    Beckers Member Posts: 1,883
    edited November 2012

    Thank you Marlegal and Sherry for suggestions to help with nausea. It seems to be worse since first started 3 weeks ago. :-/



    Mumito, so sorry you were alone with no one to turn to. :-( I was in my car driving when I got "the call" and pulled over. The radiologist was so nice to call. Even though I was birad5, it was still a shock.



    Hope everyone is doing well and feeling rested.

  • Valjean
    Valjean Member Posts: 1,898
    edited November 2012

    Sort of on topic, I am four years out today. The day the it was removed from my body. My anniversary date. { According to Merriam Webster: anniversary: The annual recurrence of a date marking a notable event. } Notable event, damn tootin' it was!  

    Four years.....where did it go?

    That time in my life. I have lived that four years as a different person. Born as one, now another. Sometimes I feel like I am looking down from above seeing someone I don't even know doing "life" like I used to do, but yet....different.... I am not the same me anymore. Sort of sad in a small way.

    But, I am still here. Just a new me.

    I do want to thank all my dear sisters for being here day & night, when I need you and when I think I'm doing okay. It means more than you realize.

    ♥♥♥♥

    Val

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited November 2012

    JRyan- I have between 25-30 flashes a day. They suck. I use a satin pillow case at night as it is my head that feels like it is going to come right off. The pillow case stays cool and when I have a flash I flip it over to the colder side and it helps.

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited November 2012

    Neurontin (Gabapentin) in small doses works well for hot flashes, at least it did for me.  Easy to wean off when the arimidex was done, too.

    When I wrote that rads was a piece of cake for most women I was reacting to the comment I got over and over again from medical people--"Wow, that reaction to rads is really unusual!"  It made me feel like I was the only woman who ever had trouble with rads.  I know that isn't the case, that most women have some discomfort and some side effects.  I didn't mean to imply that rads was easy for anyone or minimize any one else's pain and discomfort.  I just wish I had been told that the rad onc's definition of "sunburn like rash" meant all the skin peeling off my breast, huge amounts of smelly drainage, constant burning pain, dressing changes every hour or two around the clock from half way through rads to 3 months after.  That "fatigue" meant that I would not be able to do anything, not even cook meals or clean house for the entire time plus 3 months.  I wish he had told me I could stop whenever I wanted to. 

    My apologies again, I have got to get off this memory.  I just cringe when I think of any woman going into rads without knowing what it really means. 

  • iatigger
    iatigger Member Posts: 447
    edited November 2012

    Congrats Val, great to hear of people who are way past the stage where we are currently and are living life to it's fullest.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited November 2012

    Dianarose, a satin pillowcase may be adding to your heat!!! Satin sheets are notoriously HOT!! I sweat right through pillowcases and rot the guts of the pillow. When you take off the case you can see exactly where I sweated! Gross!!

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited November 2012

    Native - Rads IS a piece of cake.  It's just that the cake is burnt, fallen and lumpy. Frown

    The "process" was a piece of cake for me.  I live just 5 minutes from the rads center, undressing and getting dressed again was a pain. But the after effects, which for me have been mild still linger 6 months later.  I had awful skill burns, just finished a course of pt for the muscle tightness and on and on... 

    I think I'd rather have a piece of any of these cakes.

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited November 2012

    Sherry: I was so touched by your son's demonstration of his love for you.  You raised him to be a good man!

    All, I'm one of the lucky ones who had no problems with rads.  My skin turned red and felt warm to the touch, but it never felt painful like a sun burn.  Then it faded to a blotchy tan, and it's mostly back to normal now.  I did have a bit of cracking around the nipple (my apologies if that's too much info), but it didn't hurt and healed quickly.  I didn't have fatigue, and kept up with my 5x a week workout schedule.  I think these things helped me: 

    1. I appled aloe generously twice a day.
    2. I ate huge amounts of protein (~90 gm) daily to help my cells heal.
    3. I'm half Mexican, so I tan easily.
    4. I did upper body stretches every day.

    Having said all that, I agree with others who suggested that rads aren't needed if you're having a mastectomy.  I knew I had to have them with a lumpectomy, and I accepted that to keep my breast.  I wouldn't have had them if I was having a mastectomy.

    Usual disclaimer: This is my opinion, and everyone is different.  We all make the best decision we can for our own treatment.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited November 2012

    NativeMainer, No apologies needed.  You have to write what happened to you, not to scare others away but just because it is your true story.  Some don't suffer thru chemo that much, others really get laid low by it.  The whole spectrum of reactions are out there.  The trouble is, someone has convinced the docs NOT to realistically tell us the severity we MIGHT go thru, then for those who do have the bad reactions, they are even more frightened thinking it does not happen to others.  So sorry you were made to feel you were some kind of anomaly, but you were on the far end of the S/E spectrum for sure.

    Valjean!  Woo-woo-woo to the hoo-hoo-hoo!   Keep marking those cancer-free days off!

                                                                             

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