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  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited October 2012

    I am so saddened to see so many newbies... but on the other hand, if you're dealt the TN card, this is the best place to be. I've been hanging around this board for over 3 years now, and though I'm long past treatment and am doing very well, I still like coming here and chatting with you ladies. 

    For many (perhaps most) of us, the cancer seemed to appear out of nowhere. I had a clean mammo 10 months earlier, and even the diagnostic mammo I had after feeling my lump did not clearly indicate any problem. It's appalling that some people might think we got cancer by being negligent with our bodies and/or failing to do our mammo scans. In some ways, this is the unintended harmful consequence of perennially preaching breast awareness and the benefits of mammograms. The truth is, this disease can descend on anyone at any time.

    The good news is, there are oodles of us who have got through treatment and come out the other side. You will too.    

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited October 2012

    Hopex3 - My tumor hurt also, even tho my BS said cancer doesn't hurt. HA! 

    5thsib - I also found my own lump, as well did my sister.   TN tumors come up fast, a lot of times between mammos.   My sister's lump was actually on her mammo but was given an all clear.   I guess mammos are only as good as the ones reading them.   She went back months later because the lump was getting bigger.  By that time, it was 5 cm!

    Jenndurk - I am unusual in that I had a hard time with taxol, not AC.   Taxol kicked my butt.  It gave me flu-like symptoms, pain and high fevers.  Horrible pain and vomitting the first week so was more proactive after that in taking my pain med's (oxycodone) and anti-nausea meds.  It also gave me neuropathy in my feet and hands that has not gone away (6 months later).   If you are getting Neulasta shot to bring blood counts up, you should take Claritin (the regular 24 hr type) for the day of the shot and I took it a week after the shot.   That helps with bone pain but I also took my narcotic pain meds for the rest of the aches and pain.

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited October 2012

    Luah you are so right in everything you say.  Yes cancer can appear from nowhere.  I had always kept up with my mammo's and  told my daughters that when its the age for them to have them they must  go.  My cancer was found on a routine mammo and was very nearly missed. It wasn't a lump.  It was tiny tiny minute little white specs that they had to give me a magnifying glass for so I could see it on the film.  The radiologist at first said no this ones fine, then hang on a minute, whats that.  So mammo saved my life.  Who would have thought those tiny white specs could turn out to be Stage 3a, Grade 3, TN. By then it was also coming out the sides of the nodes into no mans land.  All I could think of was 'my god how much longer do I have' but you and  other ladies were an inspiration to me. You gave me hope when I hardly had any. The thought of surgery and chemo scared me silly but I got through it with the help of yourself and I too came out the other side.  I didn't want to tell my family how bad I felt for fear of worrying them but you and this thread helped me through as we will help all the newbies and they too will come out the other side.

  • EnglishRose75
    EnglishRose75 Member Posts: 147
    edited October 2012

    Hello everyone,

    I was trying to think of some comforting words to say to some of the newcomers on this site who have expressed their feelings of sadness and anxiety recently.  I have an arsenal of tricks that I've developed which help me personally in terms of keeping these feelings in check.  I really try to think about the statistics in a glass half full type of way.  If you say that 55% of people with your stage survive for instance (and it's probably higher than that since all statistics are out-of-date), then focus on being in that 55%.  Focus on all the things that you can do to give you some feeling of control in a situation that is so scary and out of control.  Focus on a better diet and lifestyle.  I tell myself that I want to make sure that if it does come back, I will have done everything within my power to give me the best chances.  Ultimately of course it's down to our own unique biology and a whole lot of luck.  If you are someone who needs to look at the Internet (I know it's a bad idea, but I can't stop myself from doing it), bookmark all the sites that give you hope and comfort and refer back to them if you need to.  When I feel myself getting unhelpfully nervous, I literally go and shut myself in a quiet place in the house and talk myself out of it. There are loads of people, of all stages, with all tumour sizes and levels of lymph node involvement who survive this and live for many, many years.  Lots of them frequent this board, and there are also threads on this site devoted just to this (I have those bookmarked!)

    This all being said, I'm finding it difficult at the moment to practice what I preach.  I'm feeling less than enthused about my next round of Taxotere tomorrow and less than enthused with cancer full stop at the moment to be honest.  Three and a half months in to chemotherapy now, I'm just tired of arranging my whole life around the days when I may or may not feel good.  I'm tired of worrying, or of working hard not to worry. Even my retail therapy strategy and the purchase of two new particularly nice pairs of shoes this week hasn't done much to lift my spirits.  My closet is beginning to resemble that of Imelda Marcos.  And then I feel guilty about whining, because I know that there are many people in much more worrying situations than me, some on this thread even, and I tell myself to just get my act together and deal with it.

    Whine over.  I feel a bit better now.

  • ksmatthews
    ksmatthews Member Posts: 812
    edited October 2012

    I did Taxotere, Adriamycin, cytoxan all the same day.  I did 1 treatment every 3 weeks for 6 rounds.  I also had the neulasta shot the day of chemo after infusion.  I found the chemo was tolarable.  I also found that if you take a clariton and aleve the day of shot that helps with the pain.  Also make sure to drink plenty of fluids!!!  Staying hydrated helps with the pain.    good luck to all the newbies you will love this site!

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited October 2012

    Welcome to all the new ladies, sorry you have to be here, but this is a wonderful supportive group!

  • jcolford
    jcolford Member Posts: 120
    edited October 2012

    Hi all, I am new to this thread. I am 44 years old and was diagnosed in June 2012 with IDC stage 2b, grade 3. Triple Negative. I have completed my 3 of 8 dose dense treatments. I am having 4 treatments of AC and 4 of Taxol. My oncologist said that my chances for reoccurance was 50%. I don't know how they come up with their numbers but I am not letting these numbers determine my future.

    Thank you all for makeing this thread a welcoming place for us to find support.

    Cheers,

    Jo Anne

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2012

    Dear OBXK - started Carbo/Gem two weeks ago. I was so pleased that the side effects were nothing close to those of AC/Tax - Sadly, though, I could not have my infusion last Fri. as my blood counts "took a dive" as my Onc put it. I am supposed to have it two Fridays in a row, skip a Fri. and then start over again - prob. for six months. This is my "off" Fri., so I'm using it to have another port put it (had first one removed at lumpx time). So not looking forward to another port....Onc assures me that he has another "cocktail" in mind if my blood levels keep dropping so drastically - I advised him that at this point, I will try one more combo - If that does not work, then I plan to stop chemo. He just looked at me and patted me on the shoulder...

    I did the same thing you did - tossed out a lot, gave away a lot and started labeling things for children and grandchildren for departure time - sounds morbid - yes, but it was almost a freeing kind of exercise. I am giving my children and grandchildren individual photo books for Christmas. I plan to give away almost all the photos I have. I even tossed out my high school year book and many photos that will mean nothing to my children and grandchildren. I even registered my body for donation to Albany Med Center so my children will not have to be burdened with funeral and burial - also to try to help with research. My children are fine with my plan. They will receive my ashes a year after I pass-on. 

    Its difficult to see how my disease affects my children - My oldest son is always here when I need a ride or something done around the house, but he tries his best to ignore cancer and acts like I will be here forever - He wants to buy me a kyak - oh boy, that should be fun with a frozen shoulder (lol). My middle son, who lives in CO, cries and gets angry at siblings for what he feels is not enough to help me. My daughter - 32-gets very short and impatient with me - she treats me like a child and acts as though she is angry at me for having cancer. It was so different with my initial dx and treatment - so hopeful, noone was angry, now it's almost too much for my family to do again....

    Sherry

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited October 2012

    Jo Anne - great attitude! I had always figured I had a 50/50 chance, everyday I woke up :)



    English Rose - hugs to you dear one. Send us a pic of those new shoes! I'm thinking of getting myself a pair of red Mary Janes. I haven't had a pair of red shoes in years.



    My TN lump came up in three days. I had pain, then skin change and then lump.



    Starting gemzar/carbo tomorrow. Wondering if anyone that has had this, knows if they do the next day nuelasta shot?



    Wishing everyone a good tomorrow!

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2012

    My Onc did not plan to give me next day Neulasta - but with counts so low last Fri., he gave me an injection of Neulasta instead of doing chemo. 

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2012

    I was also infused with Decadron during my first and only infusion of Carbo/Gem. I guess they figured they better get it in me by IV this time as I cheated and did not always take the oral Decadron when I did AC/Tax - I hate steroids - I feel like a maniac. It did not seem as bad this time, though. I took Benadryl at home to bring me down.

  • browerl
    browerl Member Posts: 126
    edited October 2012

    Titan-I have always been very close with my son (21 yrs old) and not as close to my daughter (19 yrs old) however, since my dx the roles have switched my daughter is very much involved and my son is almost in denial.  Everyone dose handle it differently, not wrong, just different.

  • ksmatthews
    ksmatthews Member Posts: 812
    edited October 2012

    Cancer or no cancer we all have a 50/50 chance of waking up the next day!  I myself don't even read statistics, do not care what they say.  I live life one day at a time, and when the good Lord above calls me home I am gone.  Can't do anything about it.  Who knows?  People die everyday and not all is from cancer.  Keep positive ladies!

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited October 2012

    agree KS - I don't look at stats!

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited October 2012

    ksmatthews: ditto to that.

  • borntosurvive
    borntosurvive Member Posts: 213
    edited October 2012

    I am friends with Inmate on facebook and she had just posted on Oct. 25th.  Not sure about the others that we haven't heard from though.  Thinking of all of our sisters xo

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited October 2012

    Sherry - thanks for the heads up.

    My heart goes out to you and your family.

  • EnglishRose75
    EnglishRose75 Member Posts: 147
    edited October 2012

    Karen, I strongly endorse the purchase of the red mary janes--clearly an essential component of any woman's wardrobe.  And some purples ones too!  One of my new pairs is purple, and coincidentally matches the dark purple nail polish that I've been advised to wear to protext my nails during the Taxotere.  I enjoy pointing out this exceptional display of colour coordination to anyone who will listen when I'm wearing them!  I'll be thinking of you today as I get my chemo.

    I've gone a bit mad recently and given myself a complete wardrobe/image overhaul.  I've thrown out nearly all of my old clothes and decided to become a bit more trendy.  If I feel like crap, it helps me to know that I don't look like a sack of potatoes.  I go in to every chemo session, wig on, fully made up, wearing my best outfit. I find it easier to cope when I don't look ill. I must stop soon though because the bank balance is suffering and I'm trying to save for a decent family hoiday next summer.  By that time, we'll all need some proper time off, together, preferably on a Greek Island, the waves lapping on the beach and someone called Costas bringing me cocktails at the click of my fingers. That's a thought to hold on to.

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited October 2012

    To all you lovely ladies.  Our being strong and positive for our families and friens is one of the hardest parts of this battle.  For me the hardest was when my DH cried and then went immediately back into his soldier mode.  I am also bipolar so have to avoid negativity where I can.  

    One of the things I do, and it really helps me, is plan for the coming seasons.  So instead of being depressed about the winter I am looking forward to big roaring fires, all the beautiful autumn colours and the warm snuggly clothing.  That and the mulled wine.

    As I have said before, this thread is my lifeline.  Anything I have needed I have found here.

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2012

    Dear Bernie - yes - our lifeline - I totally agree. Whenever things go great, I can't wait to share with all of you. When things do not go well, I run to the shelter all of you provide. I love you guys, I truly do. 

    Sherry

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2012

    OBXX - The same to you and yours. I thought of you when I awoke this a.m. (Just tossed out more useless stuff - lol). I really do not think we are being morbid. I know I may think differently about this in the future, but I really do not think so -I have honestly accepted this horrid disease and actually am at peace with all of it. I truly feel free to live each day as I want to. I receive a very small teacher's pension each month and Aflac benefits. I have worked since I was 14, so I definitely qualify for Soc. Sec. Dis. I contacted them this week. They were so very, very nice to me, as mets are on their "rush-through" list. They prob. appreciate having a true claim to process instead of all the BS claims many people I know have tried to get approved. I have a lovely little cabin at the base of a small mountain and lower Saranac Lake right across the street from me! The best part is that my grandchildren live one mile away - in fact, a trail at the top of "my mountain" connects to their townhouse complex! 

    In addition, although I am not worth much money-wise while here, I have some great insurance policies in effect for my family. My children and d-iin-law have all worked very hard all their lives - no inheritances, or family money. I am so glad I will be able to provide a good financial jump-start for them when I pass on. 

    Ok - enough about passing-on. Its Halloween! It's pouring rain here, but not cold, not windy and no snow, so the celebration will go on. Trick or treating after school on Main St. with grandchildren. Its a lot of fun to see the looks on the faces of out-of-towners who do not understand why the heck our Main St. is closed for three hours on Halloween!

    Thanks for the great idea, Bernie. My D hates holidays - she is planning on moving out soon, so I will decorate the heck out of my cabin for the holidays - Even if she does not move out, too bad for her, I will decorate anyway. I will decorate so much that my cabin will be seen from space! Yep - that's the spirit! I have recently had no Christmas tree or tiny ones. My gchildren asked me to have a big tree this year - You bet I will - it will be huge - I can't wait. 

    Love you guys

    Sherry (have not completed my info profile yet - just to give everyone abit of info about me, I am a retired (was forced to retire six yrs early by obnoxious principal - did not feel like fighting it- Union encouraged me to - I wouldn't - Karma bit his a** - he was "forced" to retire by a nice new superintendent! Now he is selling used cars....). I am 58 - in great health besides the cancer crap. Have three adult children and three wonderful grandchildren - I live a very simple life and enjoy each and every day!

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited October 2012

    English Rose - I just painted my toes "Plumberry".

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 317
    edited October 2012

    Love to all you wonderful ladies. Welcome newbies...it is hard, it is he'll but you can do it.



    Haven't been on I awhile, needed to take a break then got a break with no power from Sandy....



    Wishing everyone a wonderful day and a super Halloween for those of you who celebrate. We carve wild pumpkins. May post later. Hope I can find our utube video to post...EI.d, short, crazy pumpkin carving.

  • JAN69
    JAN69 Member Posts: 947
    edited October 2012

    Good Morning Girl Friends - Love all the posts today. 

    Wondering if I can ask DH to get me some wild color nail polish.  Plumberry sounds perfect.  

    Thinking of the millions of people in the eastern third of US.  Wishing all the very best.  Jan 

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited October 2012
  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited October 2012

    Happy Halloween to everyone.  I got the "all-clear" on my PET/CT scan.   I am so happy.  I feel I can move on now that I know the treatments worked.

  • Tookybum
    Tookybum Member Posts: 38
    edited October 2012

    jenndurk; I wasn't sure if I should post.  I also had 4x AC DD and have one more (4x) DD Taxol.  Compared to the Taxol I breezed through the AC.  I have terrible body pain but the onc has given me a new drug which is a nerve blocker which seems to have helped.  Also my hemoglobin slipped below the 80 threshold and I had to have 2 units of blood yesterday.

  • DorMac
    DorMac Member Posts: 155
    edited October 2012

    Hi everyone. Wonderful posts today. Great news from CatWhispurrer and inspiring ideas for enjoying life from the other sisters. Clearing out our possessions MAY seem a bit negative and/or morbid but perhaps it's us just realizing that there are much more meaningful things to concentrate on, whether we have a year or 20 left - having fun with colour (plumberry nails), decorating (HUGE Christmas tree in the Adirondacks), spending time with family and friends (trick or treating with the grandchildren) and planning for the future (trips we plan to take, things we want to do). The main theme is ENJOY LIFE!!

    Doreen

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited October 2012

    Happy Halloween or Samhain as we old strange Celts would say.

    Like I said earlier i try to live in the positive ( I know it doesn't always work like that).

    An update for the new Ladies.

    I live in Southern Ireland, very rural.  Nearest neighbour quarter of a mile. Nearest little shop and pub three miles.   Kilkenny city 14 miles.

    Try to eat and drink healthily (doesn't always work like that).  I like the odd glass or bottle of red wine.  Will admit to the occasional cigarette (not proud of that).

    Have a small amount of land - keep chickens, guinea fowl, turkey (didn't have the nerve to eat him last christmas), goats, connemara pony, three mad dogs and hubby.

    Try to see the good in people and live a quiet life (doesn't always work like that).

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited October 2012

    Two nuns, Sister Mary Agnes and Sister Mary Vincent, are traveling through Europe in their car, sightseeing in Transylvania. As they are stopped at a traffic light, out of nowhere, a small vampire jumps onto the hood of the car and hisses at them through the windshield.

    "Quick, quick!" shouts Sister Mary Agnes, "What should we do?"

    "Turn the windshield wipers on. That will get rid of the abomination," says Sister Mary Vincent.

    Sister Mary Agnes switches on the wipers, which knock the mini-Dracula around. But, he hangs on and continues hissing at the nuns. "What shall I do now?" she shouts.

    "Try the windshield washer. I filled it with holy water before we left the Vatican," replies Sister Mary Vincent.

    Sister Mary Agnes turns on the windshield washer. The vampire screams as the water burns his skin, but he hangs on and continues hissing at the nuns.

    "Now what?" shouts Sister Mary Agnes.

    "Show him your cross," says Sister Mary Vincent.

    "Now you're talking," says Sister Mary Agnes. She then opens the window and shouts, "Get the f**cking hell off our car!"

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