Starting Chemo October 2012

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  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Omeggo, hang in there! I also spent day six in the hospital after severe abdominal cramping and nausea that lasted a week. You're not alone. I didn't feel better until about day 9. I'm at like day 11, and besides the rash on my fingers, one tiny mouth sore, a bit of tingling in my fingers, drippy nose and an overactive GI system, I practically feel normal. I just know that you will wake up soon and be like, "Oh, it's gone. I feel a little like me again." 

    At least we have the sunshine :) I even ventured all the way out to International Mall yesterday (before I lose my hair). Stay stong!

    A question for you all: I see some of you have been started on hormone therapy already. I am not due for this until after chemo which I thought was standard. Chemo is blowing out my overies anyways, I assume. Anyone?

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Schoolmom: I don't know what "if I can get in" means ... Are they too full or? I don't know that it will help but I would certainly try; My friend at Methodist gets home from vacation in Jamaica on Wednesday, so I assume he goes back to work the next day. Let me know if I can help.

  • schoolmom
    schoolmom Member Posts: 458
    edited October 2012

    Welcome Omeggo.....sorry you are here but in the past few weeks this has helped me tremendously in dealing with the unknown from these wonderful ladies.  I am scheduled to start the same chemo the beginning of Nov.  but trying to get all the details taken care of.  Take care and feel better. 

  • schoolmom
    schoolmom Member Posts: 458
    edited October 2012

    POKE - you are a doll!  I am going to call in the morning and try to go visit.  I have no idea if they book up....if need be, I will certainly PM you if I need help getting in.  ThanksUndecided

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    No problem, just let me know. My friend asked me repeatedly to go stay with him and his wife in Houston for treatment, but I just couldn't bring myself to be away from my own home that long. MD Anderson is a two-minute walk from his home. (Yes, he works at Methodist and loves them, but MDA is #1 of course.) Good luck with your visit tomorrow :)

  • Abby20
    Abby20 Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2012

    Woke up this morning with a bad skin rash, specially on my hands any thoughts? I am day 6 post 2nd infusion, haven't had something similar with the first one!

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Abby- I'm not sure. I know poke mentioned something similar, so maybe she knows. I haven't had 2nd infusion yet. This Friday is the day. Both dreading and looking forward to getting another done with. Maybe ask MO about rash too.

  • queeny209
    queeny209 Member Posts: 8
    edited October 2012

    hi there,

    i started chemo about two weeks ago and have my second on november 1st. I felt okay after the first one, but by day three i was exhausted and very achy. Recently i've started losing my hair. First a few strands, then clumps. I got my hair buzzed off and kept a little bit on top, but even that is staarting now to come out. My daughter helps me wash my head with a soft washcloth to get the loose pieces out. i have a pretty large bald spot in the back which is really disconcerting... The hair loss was probably the biggest worry for me. Seeing that there are others going through this at the same time is refreshing in a way, and i've used this thread to read everyones experiences :)

  • Omeggo
    Omeggo Member Posts: 275
    edited October 2012

    Thanks for your welcome.  Glad I'm NOT alone with the GI stuff.  Today has pretty much sucked but I don't have the fever anymore.  Of course, I'm taking Alleve.  Tomorrow I'll shoot for another kind of anti emetic.  The Zofran isn't working very well.  I look forward to feeling better, for sure!

    As far as HER2+ and HER2-, my DCIS was positive and the IDC tumor was negative.  That's all.  I'd read it was possible, and there it was, in my very own breast. 

    Stay safe those of you in the storm's path.  Thanks again!

    Oh, almost forgot:  As for AI therapy, at first I was not going to do chemo at all and just do AI therapy.  But then I got my Oncotype score (23).  Since I also have family history, I opted to do chemo after all.  My recurrance probability, if you do the numbers anyway, gets cut in half if I do chemo, so I changed my mind.  Since starting it (a little before) my MO said to stop the Arimidex and resume three weeks or so after my final infusion.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    queeny- I'm here with you. What chemo drugs are you getting? We are on the same cycle. My 2nd chemo is Nov 2nd. My friend/hairdresser was supposed to come over today and shave my head. But she is sick. So will get it done tomorrow. It's falling out. And I have mine just above my shoulders. I should have do e it sooner. Day 2 I felt flushed, but ok. Aches after Nuealastra shot, but ok still. Day3-4 were the worst. Bad headache. I just ordered a bunch of buffs. Yay! Easy to put on. Go to buffwear. There's also a tutorial on line if you type in buff wear how to. I think they may be my cover of choice. Glad you found this board. Welcome.

  • Marlene18
    Marlene18 Member Posts: 91
    edited October 2012

    I stressed about it all day yesterday and then got up today and just got it done. I still have a buzz cut since my hair just started coming out in handfuls yesterday but it was okay. I think the worrying and stressing beforehand makes it easier because it can't be as bad as my mind builds it up to be... My boyfriend got buzzed too and then we went and tried on Halloween wigs. It's the right time of year to go bald!

    Hang in there everyone.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Thanks Marlene. And I do love the picture. I just want to get it done. Tomorrow is the day regardless if my friend/hairdresser is able to. I too will try and post picture. I like how you split it. Too funny- it is a good time to go bald, Halloween wig shopping could be fun. :-) trying to stay positive.

  • Goldfinch
    Goldfinch Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2012

    Love the picture, Marlene18!

    My DH just shaved my head- my scalp was hurting so badly from the clumps falling out. It's cold, but overall feels better now. And my 4 yo DD has only said nice things to me about it, so I'm feeling okay.

  • LouBar
    LouBar Member Posts: 84
    edited October 2012

    Poke - my hormone therapy starts after chemo as well for 5 years.  I was told that if I wanted to have children that we would have to harvest my eggs before all of this.  I understood that this would be the only way, may also be related to my age (39)? Something you may want to inquire about before hormone therapy if you are looking to have children.  

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    Poke, I get 4 rounds of TC because my Onc said there's a study going on now concerning whether 6 is really more beneficial than 4. Originally she said she'd like me to do 6 rounds but she'd be happy with 4.



    On another note, am I the only one that constantly thinks of cancer being elsewhere in my body and I don't know about it? How will I ever know if I have ovarian, kidney, liver, etc cancer?!?!? I only had one lump that made me demand a MRI and that lump was high grade DCIS. It was another mass that had no lump and was against my chest muscle that wa full blown cancer. I would have never known it was there had I not investigated the DCIS lump. The waiting to have symptoms theory is really bothersome to me.



    Ok enough of the dreaded doom topic. So, I've had my head shaved (to the scalp) for 2 weeks now (first chemo was 31 days ago) and I still have plenty of stubble but also noticeable bare spots. I've been wiping it with a wet rag to get the rest if it off (since it won't grow) but it's not getting all of it. So I decided to take duct tape to it! It got so much more but I ran out of tape. Lol.



    Hope all of you in Sandys path are hunkering down ok. Been through hurricanes all my life so I'm thinking of you all!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Omeggo - Glad you are feeling a little bit better today!  Definitely talk to your MO about upping your nausea meds if that was an issue.  They gave me IV steroids & then more to take for 3 days/twice a day plus eMend by IV before the chemo along with Zofran to take every 12 hours and Ativan to take every 5-6 hours once home.  For the other side of GI issues from the anti-nausea, you might want to look into miralax and magnesium.  I took miralax in a drink 1x a day and magnesium both night & day.  Hope you are feeling much better soon! 

  • Omeggo
    Omeggo Member Posts: 275
    edited October 2012

    Thanks NBnotes!  Your cocktail there sounds pretty good. I hope that you have had a good day and are enjoying this COLD weather.  (Brrrr!)  I'll be calling my MO in the morning.  The stomach cramps finally stopped after having some probiotics but I've hardly eaten.  Seems to work better that way today but tomorrow I'll have to venture eating. 

    I'm going to bed really soon (it's only 7:30!).  I feel like such a wimp.  I'm not really beating myself up...but I'm definitely not very good at this.  Where is my Inner Xena when I need her!

  • RainMaze1962
    RainMaze1962 Member Posts: 23
    edited October 2012

    Tomorrow I start my steroid-taking. Chemo is Tuesday, neulasta on Halloween. Taxotere and cytoxan. Even though I know what to expect, I'm still a little terrified. I am so thankful for this discussion board! And good luck to everyone!

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited October 2012

    blow out our ovaries , poke?

    damn i thought so too... but my periode was on "steroids" ... bled after the first round.. and this time after the second round i bled for 10 days... like a tap!

    No one has spoken to me about hormone therapy yet...

    im a grandma ..cant they just take them out?

    good to read everyones news.. i dont have internet access much these days.. but its always heart warming to read this thread..

    love and purple bubbles to all

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited October 2012

    Buffs are awesome and I have been wearing them for years. I have the original one and one of the original winter ones which are half regular fabric and half polartec. They are seamless too. 

    For us Canadians here is the link: they are in Canmore and I called awhile back explaining my reason for new ones. But I ordered a lot stuff from Headcovers.com so have not done the Buff order yet. BTW, I did get to pay HST for the headcover order but it was easy as FedEx took payment.

    http://www.buyabuff.com/default.aspx?



  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    Marian, did you get a bill from Fed ex for the hst? I did plus a charge of $10 cause they paid it on my behalf and tax on the ten bucks too. Crazy.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited October 2012

    Yeah it was $20 and I did have a look at the bill and you are right, HST plus whatever! $20. For Buff, free shipping if over $50 I think and of course using the Canadian site, none of those extra charges. 

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited October 2012

    Off for blood work soon and then to see the MO and then to see our new GP - we hope she will take our whole family on. My daughter is coming for all appts. so nice to have a day with her. Chemo tomorrow if BW OK.

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    LouBar - Thanks ... I declined egg harvest. I am content without children and although I'm 29 I am adopted so I figure especially since I'm BRCA2+ I may as well adopt if I change my mind. (50% chance to pass it to my kids.) Thanks for the advice, though. A lot of my friends thought I was making the wrong decision and should do it just in case, but I couldn't put myself through that. 

    MrsCich - I'm totally worried about cancer somewhere else. I have had a lump on my forehead for as long as I can remember that hasn't changed and I'm already convinced it's a tumor. (Knock on wood, superstitious and paranoid, a fab combination.) I asked for a PET scan and they said my insurance won't pay without 4 positive nodes, but I emailed my insurance, and while the email was cryptic, it seems they will pay. (As a pharmacist I interact with insurance complanies every day and still can't always understand them.) I'm going to print the email and take it with me tomorrow when I go for my appt. The thought is terrifying for sure. The thing that I can't wrap my head around is that there are people with tumors smaller than mine that have mets ... cancer is such an ugly beast. I know that I am going to feel this way for the rest of my life. This is also why I never for one second thought twice about BMX. There's no way I could live my life after this with breasts. I wish they could scoop out all the tissue under my arms as well, and since I'm BRCA they're taking my ovaries at some point and I also get to worry about increased risk of colon and pancreatic cancer. Stupid genes. 

    I'm done complaining for now. I am feeling good today and to whomever had the hand rash (I forgot who): Mine worsens and gets better randomly. Mine is like tiny, hard, bumps on my fingers. Mostly on the tops of my hands, but sporadically on my palms. It seems worse around my knuckles. I hope it's not the Herceptin since I'll be on that awhile. It doesn't itch or look red and when I point it out to my MO tomorrow, I doubt she will even see it. It does seem to swell or worsen when I do things like wash and rub them on a towel (gently) to dry or today when I carried the laundry basket to the bedroom. It's annoying, but not as annoying as the numbness in my hands. I think that is also the Herceptin. I have gluatmine powder but I'm waiting to ask again about it. I asked at my last appt (before I had the symtpoms) and they sort of blew the idea off ... we'll see if it is taken more seriously now that it has developed.

    Ordered some satin scarves on Etsy. I have a few here plus two hats I bought. Luckily it is cooling down here in Florida. I hope everyone is safe from the hurricane up North. I have also been shopping for earrings ... My mantra of the day is: Lose hair, buy earrings. 

    Love to all. xoxo

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    P.S. MrsCich - if the IDC was against your chest wall, do you need radiation?? Also, great idea on the packing tape ... maybe a lint roller? I'm already using one on my pillow :(

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    Poke, I do not need radiation.  The cancer wasn't part of the chest wall that's just how I word it so everyone knows location.  It was towards the center of my chest, where cleavage would and I guess was NEXT to the muscle.

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    I know this doesn't apply to anyone but just sharing some thoughts. The Cleveland Clinic does something called preimplantation genetic diagnosis for embryos - if I would have harvested. When the embyro is 8 cells old, they can tell if it has received my BRCA gene. This is before implantation, obviously, and is a little too sci-fi even for someone with a doctorate. Makes sense though, I suppose. Until I was reading an article or something and the girl said, "If this had been around in the past, I wouldn't be here." Just something that really made me think about making the best of your life and what you are given and the hand you are dealt and all the other cliches. Yeah, I'm here and I have piss poor genes, but I have had an awesome life and I hope to continue to do so. 

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    MrsCich - I'm so glad you don't need radiation!

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    Just wanted to share a few photos. The first one is the fun my girls had when they were able to shave my head a few weeks ago. 

    This second one is my youngest, 4, who wanted to look like Mommy.

  • Omeggo
    Omeggo Member Posts: 275
    edited October 2012

    Hi POKE.  I'm just up the road from you in St. Pete.  I used to live in Sarasota (10 years ago), before moving to NM and CA and now back to FL. I like the 'lose hair, buy earrings' mantra too.  I did that as well.  Quite the new look. :))

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