Starting Chemo October 2012

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  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    Home from #2 in the BGC this afternoon. I've changed into comfys and visiting with my sis who just drove up from the states to stay with me this week and help out. :-). Did a few things different at chemo today. This nurse slowed down one of them and this time I didn't get an immediate headache! Also chewed on ice during a different one as instructed by the nurse since I still have sore gums she was worried about me getting mouth sores in the next few days. We will see how this all goes soon enough. :-). Nuepogen on Friday for the first time too. Have the best possible evening ladies. Hugs to all ... I am so glad we have this place!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    MsTori - What a small world! The middle school that I taught at for 11 years got a lot of students from the old Carrollwood area.   Do you like St Augustine so far? Is it pretty much the same temperature and weather wise?

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited October 2012

    people dont stare as much as i thought they would

    sadly... its part of the norm to see women in cancer scarves...

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    301724-I agree, I couldn't do both Peguin caps and ice other area. I would need a team of people at chemo with me. Lol! But chewing on ice prob wouldn't be to hard during the taxotere.



    Half an- yes! During the taxotere. Mouth may still be a little sore, but not near as bad. Glad your center knows about this. :-)



    Nbnotes- St. Augustine is beautiful. I'm staying with my parents. My lease ended July 31st in Tampa. Right after my diagnosis. Had my surgery in Tampa, but then came up here for chemo, so my parents could help take care of me. I miss the convenience of everything in Tampa, and of course my friends. But it's good staying here, and be near my family again. The weather is a little cooler than Tampa. And we're near the water beach. So it's beautiful. But in winter, the northern winds really whip and can get pretty chilly. I used to live here before from 2003-2007. When we are done with all this chemo cancer stuff, you should come up with your family. Also- there is a Tampa group that meets down there every once in awhile. I know a couple of the ladies. Let me know if your interested. :-)







  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Icing my head sounds worse than losing my hair. 

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Icing my head sounds worse than losing my hair. 

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited October 2012
  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2012

    I also agree Poke and I hope you are feeling so much better.  It's hard enough to eat ice while getting treatment.  I bring a blanket for myself and still freeze to death eating on the ice.  And all the while I hope that while I'm sticking my fingers in the ice to eat the ice that I'm also helping my fingernails out along the way with the neuropathy.  So far it's not been a problem either.  And I have found that eating the ice has not caused any mouth sores or sore gums which I got the first go round with the chemo.  But I also follow up with gargling with warm salt water both morning and night for the next 10 days.  I wasn't sure which was helping with the mouth sores so I'm just going to keep up the same routine since it all seemed to work during chemo number 2.  I figure it can't hurt. 

    Sorry you guys are now losing your hair.  I think mine has been gone for more than three weeks now so I'm used to it.  I either wear my wig or scarves.  I have to admit that the scarves feel much better, but I get less looks when I wear the wig.  I do get questions when I wear the wig only because it doesn't quite look like my hair.  I had such curly hair and the wig is so straight.  I figured I've lived with curly hair for so long that I wanted to go with straight while I could with no fuss.  The picture I have on this web site I have actually tried to straighten my hair for that picture and you see how well that turned out.  Even when I try to straighten my hair when I had hair it never really was straight, but now with the wig it is truly straight!  But every time I look in the mirror at my bald head it's still shocking.  I doubt you ever really get used to that.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Poke- all depends on the person. Breast cancer takes so much from us. Maybe for some, keeping their hair helps them to retain a piece of themselves. Hope your feeling better.



    Celine- how true! So many more breast cancer women! And the age is getting younger and younger. To think they wanted to raise the age for mammo's and tell us monthly self exams are not necessary! Frustrates me! We need to get the word out. Also, we are discussing on another board about BC and dense breasts. Scientists are looking and mapping genes on women with dense breasts, with and without hormone therapy. Women with dense breast tissue are at increased risk for BC.

  • Fastforward14
    Fastforward14 Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2012

    K - first round of AC done!  Little worried though - got back from infusion around 6PM and nausea kicked in and tossed me around like a rollercoaster - Zofran.....no help, Ativan......no help.  Surprisingly, the Compazine allowed me to uncurl from my fetal position and get about 4 hours of sleep.  New day feeling a little better - able to drag myself to work and will stay as long as I am possibly able.  My chemo nurse is a breast cancer survivor also and was a gem. She told me she thought my worst would be day of infusion and next day.  I kind of thought those would be my good days.  So I'm hankering down and hoping she was right and that I don't get run over for the weekend - oh well, can't do much about it now.  Anyone feel like crap day 1 and 2 and then a little better?  Thinking I might see if I get can the big gun - Emend prescription - all I can do is ask.  Nice to see you back, Poke!  Hopefully all of you great ladies are hanging in!

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    Fastforward, I get Emend and Zofran and no puking for me. Stomach gets funny sometimes and munching fixes that. Since you got sick they should have no problem getting you on Emend. Sorry, I haven't heard anyone feeling all better after the first two days. Maybe you will be one of the lucky ones....crossing my fingers! I was in the BGC yesterday and feeling ok this morning other than a small headache.

    Poke, are you doing better now? I was worried about you!

    I'm curious about the dense breast mapping as my mammo didn't show my 4cm tumor. The mammo did show I had dense breasts. Duh! Glad I found the thing myself!!

    I'm going to settle into this post chemo day and see how she rides. The sun is trying to shine out here in the valley. Going to be a nice day. :-). Hugs to all my friends here. Let's hope we all have a decent day with little SE's.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Fastforward- my SE didn't start big time till day 3. But everyone is different. It's a wait and see.. Then next time, kind of know what to expect. Stay on top of your nausea meds. And drink drink drink! Also- my MO told me he gave me a 3 day IV Emmend. Guess it works and stays in system over the first 3 days, and I was also taking phenergan, then switched to Zofran, and took Ativan on top of it. I felt a little nausea, but could deal with it. But used all together. Emmend does come in a tablet too. It's given day before, day of and day after. .?? Don't know much about that one. Hang in there.

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    I take the Emend tablets. One before chemo and one each for the next two mornings.

  • PatinMN
    PatinMN Member Posts: 920
    edited October 2012

    Poke et al., believe it or not the cold caps aren't that bad! The first few minutes of the first couple caps are painfully cold, but after that your scalp is pretty much frozen and you don't notice it that much. I dress warmly, have an electric blanket and the heated chair. People who have done both cold caps and icing fingers and toes have said that icing fingers and toes is much harder. I have #6 of 12 treatments tomorrow and haven't lost any hair at all. looking forward to being half done!

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    I wasn't judging anyone that chooses to ice, I was just speaking personally.

    Thanks for the thoughts everyone - I am doing better. Feels good to be home from the hospital. I was even able to do a little housework and eat some applesauce. Baby steps ... I sure feel like a baby.

    This is day seven and my nose is starting to feel dry, I have some random patchy rash on my hands, my face is subtly breaking out, and my mouth cells are starting to go. I got my wig in the mail sometime while I was in the hospital, and while it is the same designer as the one I tried on at that awful shop, it doesn't look nearly as natural or good. It's the same color and everything, I don't get it. Now I have to a.) pay restock fee and b.) (the worst part) face that terrible woman at the wig shop who "wears them all the time and never cries" (thanks). She was so pushy and rude I just can't even bear the thought of going back. She incessantly kept pushing me to try her prosthetic breast forms after I told her I wasn't interested and she also kept threatening that if I didn't buy her wig that day (I said I was going to call my insurance company since it was over $400), someone else would surely buy it and it's discontinued so good luck finding it again. I realized I never told this story to you guys because I was still so angry. I looked online and she is the owner of the shop, of course.

    Anyways, back to doing something useful, I hope. I would really like to go wander a shop or something but I'm such a germ freak I might as well just buy a bubble online and jump into it for the next four months. 

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Has anyone heard from MrsCich lately? I hope she didn't have any complications from her surgery or anything ... 

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    <---- This is my dog, Kona :)

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    I'm here Poke. Just lurking rather than posting. Monday was a bad day for me and I laid around all day fighting with myself because I felt lazy and useless. It was day 3 after chemo #2 so I'm guessing it was just my worst day. Hoping so at least.



    Yesterday I went into work and got cleared to work at least 16 hours a week just to keep myself sane. I'm a Safety Specialist at a NASA site so I'm pretty limited to what I can do because I investigate mishaps and sometimes have to get on the test stands and such. My return was so welcomed and I'm so glad to be back for the little time I can be.



    Surgery went well. Still stitched up, I get those out next Thursday hopefully. Labs tomorrow (I get them every Friday to check my counts).



    So glad you are feeling better Poke. I've been thinking of you.

  • Abby20
    Abby20 Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2012

    Welcome back Poke, so glad you are doing better. What an adorable dog!



    Take care of yourself



    Hugs



    Abby

  • BethBV
    BethBV Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2012

    Tx #1 Day #8 for me today.  Still dealing with the diarrhea . . . ugh!  A little tingling in the left hand/arm but might be more to do with the nerves returning after lymph node dissection rather than taxotere neruopathy.  Tounge is getting better gradually and teeth don't hurt today.  Very tired yesterday and today but have been going into the office for a few hours each day and not getting my naps in.

  • schoolmom
    schoolmom Member Posts: 458
    edited October 2012

    Welcome back Poke...cute dog.  Well, just got back from the onc where I was supposed to get oncotypedx results.  Test is complete but lab will not release results to dr.  Aetna approved it on 10/16 and then reversed the decision to pending.  Onc is fighting with the lab but hopes to get results by end of today.  I rescheduled for tomorrow.  At this rate I will have to join a Nov chemo group......

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    I hope you stay in this group schoolmom. You have become part of our family here! :-) Hugs

  • Fastforward14
    Fastforward14 Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2012

    Cute pic Poke - happy you are doing better.  I have to tell you - before my diagnosis, I have had a problem with hormonal and female hair loss for the past 20 years.  I have extensive knowledge with wigs.  Needless to say, the losing of the hair from chemo won't bother me at all - already climbed that mountain.  I'm probably one of the rare people that am glad to see it all go as my onco said I have 2x the chance of it growing in thicker!  Told my kids - they are so happy and asked me if I could dye it Green Giant green when it comes back - absolutely is what I told them.  Anyway, unfortunately some of these wig places that deal with chemo hair loss actually rip people off - I went through it with my Mom (an 8 year survivor) - they bump up the costs of the wigs about $200-$500 to get more $$ from insurance. Your co-pay can sometimes be more than the regular price of the wig from an internet shop. Most of the online shops have many of the brands the shops carry - check pricing. Most just do not have return policies - only exchange.  I lucked out with Paula Young.com.  Their wigs are cheap - do not look cheap - but you can return them within 30 days for a full refund.  I just ordered 5 - am keeping 2 and returning the 3.  Good luck - no one should have to deal with a nasty wig lady - shame on her.

  • schoolmom
    schoolmom Member Posts: 458
    edited October 2012

    Halfcan thank you so much for welcoming me in......sometimes I feel like an outsider looking in as I wait to find out my treatment plan.

    Fastforward I have been browsing wig sites....thinking about going into a shop to try them out and then purchase online.  I am going to check that website...thanks

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    MsTori -  I have a list of "things to do/look forward to" so I'll add a trip to St. Augustine to it.  I would love any information about the group in Tampa.  I've loved the support of everyone on the discussion boards.  I'm not sure if I am an in-person support group person, but it would never hurt to have the information so I can choose to go, possibly meet people, etc.

    Has anyone else talked with Immerman's Angels?  They are a one-on-one support systerm for people going through cancer and/or the support staff/loved ones of those dealing with cancer.  They try to match you as closely as possible with someone who has already dealt with exactly what you are going through.  I'm waiting on a match.  Just thought I'd share in case anyone didn't know about them.

  • melissa119
    melissa119 Member Posts: 172
    edited October 2012

    Alcb70.... I can't say about taxotere but I am on taxol number 10 of 12 today and that is one one the se's too. Numbness and tingling and also sore nails. Mine started about halfway thru but has been bearable. My tingling seems to only be in the morning then goes away. My mo said if it goes away then that is fine. It's when it is constant. She told me to take 200mg of b6 a day to try to help it. As far as the nails keep them short to avoid getting them caught and peeling off (yes they might do that!). My mo also said to soak in Epsom salt at night to help them and also put tea tree oil on them. It seems to be keeping mine at bay. U can find the tea tree oil at a whole foods type store. Good luck!

    Hope everyone's handling se's as well as they can. Believe me u will be done before u know it. I never thought I'd see the end but I have 2 more weekly taxol and I am done....fingers crossed! I started chemo in June.

  • LouBar
    LouBar Member Posts: 84
    edited October 2012

    Hi "301724" thanks for posting the article, it was an interesting read.  I'm day 13 of Treatment #1 and really struggled with all the SEs from day 1-4 and I would think the fasting may assist with the nausea and vomiting? Anyway, I will check with my Oncologist to get her opinion before my next treatment next Friday but in the meantime would love to know what your MO indicated on this subject as well.  I found it amusing in the article how they are worried about weight loss and that fasting would contribute to this, but for those that are vomiting this wouldn't really be a factor?!  Anyways, thanks - always great to know what the current research is suggesting.  

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Poke- welcome back! So glad your feeling better. Cute pic of you and your dog. :-) hey, try aquapor (by Eucerin). Not to greasy like vasoline and really helps me.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    nbnotes- I will check into it for you. I'm not sure if they have a board or not. I will pass on your info to them if you are ok with it? Just your handle on here. There's a group that get together every so often for lunch. I'm back in your neck of the woods next month for follow up with PS.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Schoolmom- welcome. Sorry you have to be here. I pray you have a low Oncotype dx result and don't have to join any groups. :-) just tamoxifen would be great!

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