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  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2012

    trisha - anne - Yes, our dx is similar! I always feel a kinship with the Australian ladies - my dad was from just outside Melbourne!

  • JustJude
    JustJude Member Posts: 7
    edited October 2012

    Keep an eye on your fever. I had one that lasted DAYS of 100-103. Ended up in ER with violent diahrhea! If you start getting blisters on your hands make sure to alert your docs! I got them pretty bad and they ended up stopping my taxol treatment and went straight to surgery! But, the good news was..........they could not find my golf ball sized tumor anymore! The chemo had made it microscopic for the lumpectomy! YUCK on the chemo, YIPPIE on what it does to your tumor!

    Hang in there....one day at a time.....you can do it!

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited October 2012

    Well SpecialK you are half Aussie! lol so you should feel a kinship with us.  Have you been down here at all?

    Jeannie, sending you ((((hugs))))) I also had my second dose of Taxotere reduced because of the terrible se's.  I tolerated FEC really well, but Taxotere was another story.  You may be having your third infusion as I write this, I hope it's gentle on you.

    Trish

    xoxo

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2012

    trisha-anne - unfortuntely I have not been to Australia yet - my DH has been to Darwin on military assignment, but I was not able to get there when we were stationed in the Far East.  It is still on my list of things to do though!  My mom was born in England but raised in Canada, married my dad and they lived in California from the mid-'40's until they both passed away within the last 10 years.  They maintained lots of British/Australian customs so it is all familiar to me. Our backyard looked like a mini-Australia - the climate is so similar that my dad landscaped it with many native plants.

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited October 2012

    Well SpecialK if you ever get down here, let me know and we can show you around Canberra - I'm sure you'd feel right at home here :-)

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited October 2012

    Trisha-Anne - Thanks so much for the hugs, they came through just great and it means a lot to me, they just seem to help, so I am sending you a GREAT BIG HUG back from Nebraska.  I did get my 3rd treatment today and he increased the dose from 100 to 110, not a lot but some.  He said since I did so well that we would try it and see how it goes.  I will let you know what happens. Did you have your dose increased after the 2nd one or are you taking something else right now?  I will go for scans on November 7th and on the 8th go for the results and probably another 3 to 4 rounds of chemo.  I asked the onco if I was done after this one and he said we will wait and see what the scans show but he would just feel better doing more doses even if the scans were showing improvement and so would I so I think that will be the outcome.  I did go after treatment and have my hair buzzed off.  I found a wig and it needed to be trimmed a bit so got that done all at once.

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited October 2012

    Jeannie - I didn't do the third treatment as even with the reduction in dose, the se's were terrible.  I'm finished with treatments now (except for Aromasin) - I finished in March last year!  

    Feeling the hugs from you too sweetie - I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you handle this dose well.

    Get some rest and drink lots of water, and know I'm thinking of you and sending healing thoughts along with more ((((hugs)))))

    Trish

    xoxox

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited October 2012

    I had my 3rd dose of Taxotere last Thursday, October 18, and today I am still feeling that pounding heart, running a very low grade temp 99.1 or 99.2 off and on but not much above that.  I keep getting slight twinges in the upper half of my body, I kind of think it may be gas but am not sure, today is the first day of this treatment that I did not take Imodium, oh and I finished Xeloda on Sunday so maybe it is worse because of taking things in the same week.  I have read you can have aches and pains with this but wondered if anyone else has had this happen.  I thought I would feel better today, and tomorrow will be a week since I got the last dose.  I did received 110 mg instead of the 100 he gave me for the 2nd dose, would this make a difference?  I have probably asked these questions before but can not remember and I tried to go back through and read some of the feedback, I am still a little fuzzy minded, not as bad as it is on the 3-5th day but I do not remember being this way.  I started a small journal just to make a note how I felt when I got up and throughout the day, I know I should have done that the first time and not wait until the 3rd time.  I do think I will be getting 3 or 4 more doses so figured it would help some.  Does it get better or does it get worse, I know everyone is different but just some other opinions help?

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited October 2012

    Jeannie

    Aches and pains is classic for Taxotere.  I remember everything hurt and I felt like I'd been run over by a truck.  I don't remember the pounding heart though.

    I'm not sure if it gets better as you go along either as i could only do 2 treatments. 

    I think it's a good idea to keep a journal though, you'll be able to look back when you do the next treatments.

    Sending you ((((hugs))))

    Trish

    xoxo

  • bcbarbie10
    bcbarbie10 Member Posts: 319
    edited October 2012

    Jeannie, it's been four weeks PFC and i still get the pounding heart. I have herceptin, though, so im not really sure which.



    Jack12, im sorry your sister has this se. I hope she's better now. Nothing to chime in about that.

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited October 2012

    Trisha-Anne - Thanks for the info and double thanks for the hugs, they are always appreciated that is for sure.  I am sending some back your way.

    bcbarbie10 - I am hoping it will not last that long, but if it does, so be it, right?  I am sending you a hug too, you have been so helpful all along and I appreciate it.

    I think I may know why I was feeling kind of lousy this time.  I went today just for a blood count and my white count was at .62 and it should be between 4.6-10.2, they called it critical low.  RBC was 3.54 and should be between 4.04-6.13 the hemoglobin was 11 and should be between 12.2-18.1, which those were not a big deal but I suppose all of them together made me feel kind of bad.  I was running a low grade temp also so they gave me a liter of fluids, potassium, decadron and a shot of Neulasta, and started me on an antibiotic for 5 days.  I have never had a Neulasta shot so that will be a new experience for me.  I was warned that it can cause aches and pains so I have Tylenol and some pain pills just in case I need it.  I know several of you have had the shot and did you all have reactions to it or did some of you have no reaction to it at all and how soon after the shot did you have the pains and how soon did you start to feel better.  I go next Thursday for counts again.  I do appreciate everyones input on here, I am an "old newbie" with all of this new stuffSmile.

  • websister
    websister Member Posts: 1,092
    edited October 2012

    jeanieb - I had the Neulasta shot and had heard that Claritin can be helpful for counteracting the aches and pains. I asked my oncologist is she had any problems with me taking it, she didn't. I took it the day of and then for the next 6 days post Neulasta last time and only had minimal pains and aches, nothing like I had heard could happen. With starting Taxotere/Herceptin as the new part of my chemo regime on Tuesday of this week, the nurse who administered it told me that some oncologists had there patients take Claritin as a premed for Taxotere also. Since I didn't get Benadryl, only Dexamethasone, I decided to take some when I got home and have been taking daily for last three days. So far, so good regarding Taxotere pain and achiness and I will have my Neulasta today so will continue the Claritin for the next seven days. Ask your oncologist if this is something they are agreeable to you doing, I know there is a clinical trial on right now that is using Claritin, if I can locate the link I will add it.

    Take care, hope you are feeling better very soon

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited October 2012

    websister - Thank you for the information.  I had read a little about the Claritin from someone else on here but did not remember when to take it or for how long.  I got the shot yesterday and will send my husband to get some at the store.  I have not heard about it for taking it before and after the Taxotere, I will ask my onco about it when I go on the 8th of November.  I did mention the Claritin to the onco nurse yesterday when I was getting fluids and she said it certainly would not hurt anything to take it for the Neulasta shot, is it just regular Claritin or Claritin D or what, I know nothing about Claritin so when I send my husband I need to tell him what to get, and do you use the name brand or the store brand, like Walgreens brand?  Also are there different strengths? Is it to late to take it now or is it still with time to get effects from it?   

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2012

    jeanie, I took the generic store brand claritin.  (Non-decongestant)  Since I have allergy problems, I just took them everyday and still am.  I didn't know about it until after my 1st chemo was over and it did seem to make a bit of difference once I started taking it.  Was still glad I could beg off from the last shot tho!

  • websister
    websister Member Posts: 1,092
    edited October 2012

    JeanieB2 - I use the regular name brand Claritin 10 mg. once daily. Sorry abut not checking in again until this evening. Thank you PAeaglesfan for answering.

  • websister
    websister Member Posts: 1,092
    edited October 2012

    Here is a link to one trial for Claritin with Neulasta -



    http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01311336

  • bcbarbie10
    bcbarbie10 Member Posts: 319
    edited October 2012

    My onc told me to take Claritin 10mg once a day the day before and the day of Taxotere, together with the dexamethasone.

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited October 2012

    PAeaglesfan - Thanks for the info on the generic.

    websister - thanks for the link to the study

    bcbarbie10 - thank you for the info on the Claritin before and after treatment day, is that for less problems with the taxotere or do you always get the Neulasta shot and it is for that? 

    I appreciate you all getting back to me. 

  • bcbarbie10
    bcbarbie10 Member Posts: 319
    edited October 2012

    It is for the taxotere. Only two tablets. On the day before, and the day of chemo. For the neulasta bone pain, my onc gave me analgesic, celecoxib. Although it was only the first one that really hurt.

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited October 2012

    bcbarbie10 - Thank you, I am going to mention this to my oncologist or I may just take it on my own since the onco nurse said it would be ok to take with the Neulasta shot and your onco told you to take it.  I am having a hard time bouncing back this time, don't know if it is the low white count, Levaquin, or the combo of the two together.  I should finish the last of the Levaquin tomorrow but I still feel really tired and washed out.  The last two times I had treatment I had bounced back a little more by now.  I am sure I will feel better tomorrow or the next day.

  • ivylynn
    ivylynn Member Posts: 11
    edited November 2012

    Just received my fifth treatment of Taxotere, Cytoxan and lost my voice after the treatment going on four days now.  This is the worst it's ever been.  I can't even have a conversation.   Has anyone else experienced this problem?  I'm afraid of losing it forever with my sixth and final round of chemo in two weeks.  Is it just me? 

  • Maddie57
    Maddie57 Member Posts: 296
    edited November 2012

    Hi ladies, ivylynn - I did not lose my voice with taxotere, but had a sore throat every time. Has anyone checked down your throat - you may have an infection

    Thanks to all of you who suggested diaper cream for the burnt nether regions - stupidly I didn't think of it, but then I was feeling do ill I couldn't think of much.

    jaenieb - I was also allergic to Taxotere. The joint pains were so bad I was pinned to the chemo seat within 2 minutes, flushing bright red and shivering like a wet kitten. The reduced dose will help your SE's. I was also given  hydrocortisone and piriton  thereafter with every infusion for the allergy, and they slowed the infusion down. They kept the dose a110 - the oncologist said they want to kill the cancer - not me!!A heat pad will help the aching joints. Neulasta is a **** - even your jaws will ache, but this passes after 2 days. I got the really bad days on the 3rd and 4th day post chemo. The pounding heart and pulse is worse the first week, but seems to persist the whole 3 weeks on and off. Hang in there - thinking of you.

    A scan is normal after 3 treatments. They like to check if it having an effect on the tumour.

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited November 2012

    Maddie57 - Thank you for your post.  I am glad to hear that other people have the pounding heart for the whole time.  I don't remember if anyone else had told me that or not.  I am glad to hear a scan is normal after 3 treatments, I go next Thursday to find out what the results are, the scans are on Wednesday, November 7 and I see the Doctor the next day so I do not have to wait to long to find out if it is working or if there are new spots somewhere else.  I have to say the Neulasta shot did not really affect me much.  I had some pain but it was tolerable with Tylenol.  I am going to get the Claritin that bcbarbie10 told me about for this next time.  I don't know if I will ever have to have the shot again but I am going to take it for the Taxotere treatment.  I had counts done today and the white count was 14, up from .62 last Friday, that shot must really be something.

    I am beginning to think I am a wimp taking chemo.  I seem to have to lay down and rest everyday for an hour or two, not much energy and I see some people are working while taking this.  I have to plan my days the first week after and part of the second week now it seems.  I feel pretty good the week I go for treatment.  I am really having a hard time eating that first week or week and a half and I know that can make a lot of difference.  About the only thing that sounds good and I can seem to eat is the little powdered sugar donuts and banana bread, I was eating spoonfuls of peanut butter but this last time I could not stand the thought of that.  I know I need protein but can not find anything that I can seem to choke down.  I can always tell when I start to feel better, I seem to be able to tolerate food better.  Is anyone else tired a lot of the time on this drug and also can't stand food?  Just call me WimpyWink...........

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited November 2012

    Oh Jeannie - you aren't a wimp.  Taxotere is one of the big guns and can have a terrible effect on our bodies.  I did 3 rounds of FEC and while it wasn't a lot of fun, I could do it.  Taxotere was a different story though.  I worked through chemo, and while doing FEC I would have the day of treatment off, then work for around 3 hours per day for the next 3 days, then have day 4 and 5 off, then back to work gradually working up from 3 hours a day to around 5 until the next treatment 3 weeks later.

    With Taxotere, I usually made it into work the day after treatment, but only for around 2 hours then I was in bed for a week.  So you aren't being a wimp, don't beat yourself up.

    I would sleep at least 5 hours during the day - then sleep at night too, Taxotere makes you really, really tired.

    I couldn't eat much either - mainly because everything tasted so awful.  I did make up a bowl of creamed rice that I would have teaspoon full bites every now and then.  I could also manage a boiled egg now and then.  The one thing that tasted half way ok was chocolate icecream lol I'm not sure of your brands over there, but here there's an expensive one called Connoisseur Ice Cream - it's a top end product, and the chocolate one (with little choc chips in it) was ok on the tongue.

    I also had trouble getting water down because it tasted like mud.  I had to put some red cordial in it to help with the taste.

    All you can do is stay in bed and rest - you are tired because your body is going through the battle of dealing with Taxotere - but the Taxotere is helping you too.  You are not alone in being tired.  I remember I fell asleep while waiting to make a medical claim one day.  I was in a room with around 50 people waiting their turn, and went out like a light as soon as I sat down lol I woke up before my number was called, but was so embarrassed, I was wondering if I'd been snoring.  Of course I looked like a cancer patient, so I guess no-one thought I was weired. 

    Hang in there sweetie - you are going through hell at the moment, but just take it one hour at a time while on the Taxotere.

    Sending you ((((((hugs)))))

    Trish

    xoxo

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2012

    Jeanieb2, don't you dare say you are a wimp!  Chemo affects everyone in different ways. Your body is fighting to healing itself, of course you need to rest!  Check with your MO and see if they will give you fluids... My MO nurse told me if I was feeling run down to let them know and they would have me come in just for saline.  She said it's amazing how much better her patients would feel by the time they finished.  
    I had a rough time eating too.  I told everyone that I missed my tastebuds more than I missed my hair.  Did you try any of the Boost or Ensure drinks?  I could usually stand eating grilled chicken breasts and broccoli if nothing else.  Of course now I can't stand broccoli and I loved it before chemo.  Thank God chicken is still ok.  

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited November 2012

    Trisha-Anne - Thank you for your post and the hug you sent my way.  I appreciate your telling me how you felt, but I did laugh when you said you fell asleep in the room full of people but woke up in time for your number to be calledLaughing, I am sure I would have been snoring if I had done that.  This is the first IV chemo in 20 years and as I recall the first time was never like this so I am glad to hear that this is normal and that maybe I am not a wimp after all.  I am going to try the ice cream thing, there is one here that I really like it is Cherry Chocolate Bordeaux so will get some of that and try it.

    PAeaglesFan - I agree with you about missing your taste buds more than hair.  I can not believe how awful things taste or even the thought of somethings can turn your stomach.  I will get a can or two of the Boost and Ensure and see if I can handle that.  I love peanut butter, so I ate that and now, I don't even want to think about it, hope when I am totally done with this I can eat it again.  I did boiled eggs to start and now do not want to think about them so I think the Ensure or Boost is the way to go, who cares after this is over that I don't like those two things.  I also appreciate you telling me I am not a wimp, I was just sure it was only me feeling like this and that I needed to put on "my big girl panties" and deal with it.  I also agree about the fluids and maybe I just need to go back and get them a few days after the treatment.  I have had them three different times now, twice after the first treatment and once this last time and it really does make a difference.  You think you are drinking lots of fluids but when you are getting rid of them as fast as you are taking them in I guess your body can not keep up.  I will ask about that next Thursday when I go. 

    Thanks you guys for the moral support.  I can not believe how my mind thinks the week or two after treatment, it just makes me go places I never go, not really depression but wondering if I am going to survive.  When I am through the worst I never even think those thoughts so I guess when you get so tired or fatigued and can not do the normal things it gets to a person.  I should really just take my Xanax on a regular basis on those days.  I just forget about it but need the bottle right next to my other pills and definitely take them during that time.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2012

    Jeanie, just remember to take it one day at a time and go easy on yourself.  You can do this and we are here for you if you need to vent.  No one can understand how you are feeling like we can.  Set short goals for yourself to look forward to.. be it making it from one day to the next or from Monday to Friday.  Use stepping stones to get to the end, you don't have to do it all in one leap.  :)  
    I think we've all been in that dark place at one time or another and it helps so much when you have cyber angels pulling you back out and putting you on the path... you are NOT alone!  

    {{{{{hugs from PA}}}}}

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited November 2012

    Yes we have all been in that dark place. Taxotere is so horrible and it messes with your head. I can remember being so sick I thought I was going to die then for a couple of days wished I would die - just because I was so sick.

    PAeaglesFan is right, we are here for you, take it slowly, I know how overwhelmed you are right now, but you will get through it.

    More ((((hugs))))

    Trish

    xoxo

  • MsW2012
    MsW2012 Member Posts: 226
    edited November 2012

    Hello. Thought I'd weigh in with my own experience and some things that have helped me. It looks like the Taxotere is to blame for most of my complaints. My biggest is the horrible stomach and gut ache that comes two days after treatment and lasts four days after that. It hurts to eat anything, even pretzels, although chicken broth and mashed potatoes seem to go down ok. The chemo nurses recommended Ativan because they thought it was nausea. Didn't work.

    The next time I saw my onco, she said it sounded like the steroids were to blame but since it lasted so long I wonder. Anyway she suggested starting Prevacid two days before the next treatment and I did and the aches are much, much milder this time around. I can eat a lot of things in small quantities. Also gobbling antacid tablets like crazy, Gaviscon (alum hydroxide and magnesium carbonate), which brings instant relief.

    I feel lucky I haven't had any other terrible se's. I have lost my hair and I do feel brain-dead and totally fatigued starting about 48 hrs after treatment and lasting 3 days beyond that, but no nausea, no joint pain from the Neulasta, no headaches, mouth sores etc. I do have terrible insomnia which Ambien helps for four hours.

    What I think has helped is I have been diligent with mouth care, salt/soda rinse/gargle every time I eat or drink anything, using lots of moisturizer and chapstick, and eating lots of protein and whole grains when I can. Whole oats with unsweetened applesauce for breakfast. I take walks or use my elliptical machine on the days I feel able. I also have a vitamin regimen and daily health shake recipe, both from a nutritionist, which I will share if anyone is interested. Kale, mushrooms, berries, flax seed etc. whipped up in a blender.

    I don't know if it's std procedure, but when I go for my chemo rounds they start with "premeds" including steroid and anti-nausea and finish with a 1/2-hr fluids flush. All given IV through my obnoxious (but medically wonderful) Veinous Access Port.

    Thanks for listening. I hope this helps. -Ms W

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited November 2012

    PAeaglesFan - Thank you so much for your nice message.  I appreciate my cyber angles very much.  I will just remember to not plan a thing the week after treatment, except a date with my bed and couchWink.  Like I said I usually do not go to the "dark place" but after the treatments I seem to get there from time to time.  I will definitely be posting if I get to down because I know you will be there to lift me back up.  It helps SO MUCH to have a place to go where other people understand.  I can tell my husband and daughters and they try to understand but it is hard if you have not walked in these shoes, and heaven forbid, they never, ever have to walk in these shoes.  My sister had breast cancer a year after I did, 20 years ago, and she is the only one that can understand the fatigue and feelings.  She is a good support but I am one of these that will not tell anyone how I feel, except you guys because you have either gone through it or are going through it.  Thanks for the hugs and kind words of encouragement.  I am sure I will lean on everyone for a while and hope that others can lean on me when they need it also.  Sending lots of hugs right back to you.

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