Starting Chemo October 2012

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  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    So sorry Poke...hope this gets resolved soon!

    I had my blood draw...now waiting to see my MO and find out if tomorrow is a go for chemo #2? Fingers crossed!

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    I got the green light for chemo tomorrow. Blood work numbers were good. MO checked out my still sore gums and said next time my numbers should recover quicker with starting Neupogen. :-)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Poke - So sorry that you are in the hospital :(  Hope that they can get everything adjusted and fixed so that you can leave quickly! 

    Sonson - Miralax is great, and you can take Colace with it as well.  For other regular stomach issues, I take miralax as needed, but take Magnesium every day as well.  So, a low dose magnesium might be helpful to you also.  None of those 3 things cause cramping by themselves or together that I have found.  Hope that some of this helps!

    I went back to the plastic surgeon, and thankfully, he thought the infrection was just about gone and was doing better than expected. As long as things don't take a turn for the worse, he cleared me to go ahead with chemo next week.  That was a pleasant surprise.    My hair has been steadily coming out yesterday & today, but thankfully, it was like extreme shedding.  Only in the last couple of hours have I had true bald spots.  I'm going to have someone come over and shave the last of it in a little bit.  I've done fine with it coming out,but I'm a little worried I might lose it with the clippers. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Abby20 - 

    That might be true for most people, but there are exceptions.  I am one of those exceptions whose doctor thankfully did the scans because it is already in my liver with multiple spots even though I was only a stage 1 in the actual breast.   Of course, no one wants needless anxiety, but if they had gone ahead with the Taxol part of my treatment not realizing the liver issue, there could have been some major damage since you can't use it with liver disease.  I don't want to freak you out, but I hope that your dr will send you for the scans just to be on the safe side.  It is better to know now and better safe than sorry.   

  • PatinMN
    PatinMN Member Posts: 920
    edited October 2012

    nbnotes, your story makes me anxious!  Was there something in your blood work that caused your doctor to do the scans even with your Stage 1a? 

  • BethBV
    BethBV Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2012

    Yay!  Got some cute hair today!  It's actually a lighter color than the stuff God gave me (nearly black with a lot of lighter highlights) but it's a similar cut and the lighter color looks good with my brown eyes and light skin.  Now I need to get a few hats for skiing and hiking and maybe a fleece liner for under the bike helmet.  I was told that the wig will not be comfortable for exercise and would be ruined by a hat.

    Day 6 for me an feeling much, much better today.  Went in to the office for a few hours and went hair shopping.  Even went out for dinner with my sweet husband (and a little frozen yogurt afterwards)!  Yay!

  • Abby20
    Abby20 Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2012

    Nbnotes, i am hearing this for the first time and I started to get anxious too, was there any signs that the cancer spread to liver?

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited October 2012

    well i threw up for first time....

    a whole day nauseated... took a pill in the morning , but blah...

    by midnight i wasreally sick... 

    hope its better today

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    PatinNM & Abby20- My bloodwork & liver enzymes were all fine, and I wasn't having any other symptoms. My margins and nodes were both clear, but it goes to the liver through the blood stream.  She just wanted to make sure she had the whole picture before we started chemo.  There were 7-10 spots on both sides of my liver with one being 5.6 cm (3x the size of the ones in my breast). I just feel like I lucked out with a great doctor so that we know they are there.  Even my MO said it isn't the standard protocol to do the scans for stage 1, but she takes a better safe than sorry approach.  My insurance paid for it without a problem.

    I do apologize for becoming one of those old-timey walking/talking billboards for PETscans, but I just can't help myself now.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Wanted to share this in case it helps anyone else when they are at the point of needing to shave.  My brother-in-law and sister came over last night with my nephews, and we shaved off the last of my hair.  We took a few before pics, and then my bro-n-law had the idea of doing some funny pics while we were shaving so I have a couple where I have the Uncle Fester look or that old toy where you tried to move the magnetic shavings to give him different hair styles.  Then we took a totally bald pic as well.  My sister then helped me put on and take pics in my different wigs.  No one outside of family can see the shaving pics, but I did post the wig pics in my blog for family/friends. My wigs are a variety with 2 blond/2 brown and all different lengths, but a couple had been given to me free and then I'd purchased a couple.  I asked for people to vote on which they liked best, but I warned them I may just have fun with it and change them out based on outfit or mood.   It was really helpful to me to make it a fun experience and memory rather than a sad one.  

  • Fastforward14
    Fastforward14 Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2012

    argharzdfasdfahdrawerohasroaishfad;ghabnaeo;riawe[r!!!  First AC infusion at 2:00 PM today and that is how I am feeling + tired from not sleeping.  Tried to stay away from boards when the rough SE's starting pouring in, but was reading them at 4:00 AM as I finally figured there's no turning back now.  Hope everyone has a good day today!  Poke I hope that your meds get you over this hump and feeling better quickly!

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 2012

    Hang in there, Fastforward. SEs vary all over the map. Know that we're all here for you!

  • alcb70
    alcb70 Member Posts: 166
    edited October 2012

    Hi everyone! Poke--I hope you're discharged quickly & get to feeling better!  I sure hope this new med does a lot better!! Keep us posted! Abby- I agree that PET scans are SO important! There's no reason NOT to do one...cancer is sneaky and whether you're a stage I or III....it should be checked. I hate that you have mets! It's what we all fear! I sure hope that since they know about it now (thank goodness), that they are able to get on top of it and get rid of it! Tori- just FYI....my hair REALLY started coming out in the last few days....ended up shaving it down yesterday. Can't even remember what day I'm at....but had my 2nd tx last Thurs.  Well, herceptin is done...so I'm outta here. Feeling sluggish today, but no zofran so far (yay!). Hope everyone is feeling well! And I hope that those who are starting or going for round two...you have no se's!!! Hope all that were feeling crummy are starting to pull out of it! Keeping my fingers crossed for myself...day 6 whew! :) 

  • Abby20
    Abby20 Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2012

    Nbnote, Alcb- thanks for the advice, I was concerned and wanted to do one but my doc was not encourging. Why do you think it is not a standard protocol to do the PET scan?

  • Fastforward14
    Fastforward14 Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2012

    Abby - sadly, I think that it is a cost issue.  I live in the NY NJ metro area and have a top notch MO who I specifically questioned about this topic.  In this area, PET scans are no longer ordered unless speciific reason for one is identified. They "wait" for you to be symptomatic somewhere and then prescribe tests accordingly - i.e. if you get dizzy or pass out, a brain MRI will be prescribed - back pain - x-ray to check bones, etc.  What a great comfort level for a cancer patient - the "wait and see" method!  But like, with everything else, we know what the squeaky wheel gets - so if something doesn't seem or feel right to you, don't ask..........DEMAND.........and don't stop till you get what you want/need.  

  • Fastforward14
    Fastforward14 Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2012
  • Marlene18
    Marlene18 Member Posts: 91
    edited October 2012

    Yeah it's been heartbreaking to read what a hard time some ladies are having but, fastforward, I've been one of the lucky ones with very few SEs. I took my decadron for first 4 days after AC round 1 and was easily back at work the next day (day 5) and really, I probably could have gone in a few days earlier but I was being extra cautious about taking good care of myself. I'm at day 10 now and I just have some fatigue but that could be attributable to me being six months pregnant... Just drink, drink, drink those first few days and hopefully you'll luck out too!

  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited October 2012

    Day six - feeling like things are calming down. Stomachs definitely calmer. Mouth better with assist from meds. Aches gone even w/o meds this a.m.



    Gonna try to do some work later. Still tired and sad my low WBC time will be when I usually hand out candy to the kids. Chemo is gonna eff up all the holidays this year. Boo.



    Sorry to hear about people's struggles but it helps us all to know we struggle together and there is relief eventually. In solidarity -

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 2012

    Hi Ladies,

    A colleague mentioned some interesting preliminary work done on the impact of fasting prior to chemotherapy for breast cancer. This is not something that's ready for prime time but the animal evidence is pretty fascinating. I may talk to my MO about it.

    Here's the article: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fasting-might-boost-chemo

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Nbnotes- I like that you turned it into a party. I'm dreading it as well. But I have my stuff ready. I'm waiting until I can't anymore. Just how I want it I guess. My hairstylist friend since 2004, will come over and do it. I think I will have fun with it too. Thanks! Hey, thought I'd mention, I'm up in St Aug now, but lived down in carrollwood are up till July this past year! Lol! Small world.



    Alcb- yep! Getting ready. Turbans and scarfs should be here this week. I ordered a really nice wrap scarf made of viscose material. Easy to war and tie. I just hate that now, every time I go out, people stare. I am wearing a mask-it's my nadir time, and also, can see my port. Should be really interesting when I wear my scarfs and turbans. Lol!



    Marlene- God Bless you! 6 months pregnant. I hate that you have to go through this. Your an inspiration. I'm so glad you have minimal side effects and pray it stays that way. I'm going to ask my MO about extending the decadron. I only get 2 days of 1/2 a pill after chemo. Maybe it will help my SE.



    Cait- glad your feeling better! Just wear a mask (can get them at drugstores) when you hand out candy. Make it part of your outfit. Draw a smily face on it. Don't miss out, always a solution.



    Hope everyone feels better soon, and for those getting ready for the next tram end, minimal SE and those not feeling well- pray you feel better soon.



    I'm day 12 and actually went out to do retail therapy after physical therapy today. Felt good to be out and feel human. Hang in there ladies.



  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited October 2012

    Ok so yesterday when I got out of the shower I had this weird mark on my poor girl (lumpectomy breast) -- it looks almost like a bite mark (really I'm not kidding). And it's gotten more itchy over the last day. It's not near my port or my radiation site or my surgery site. But definitely looks irritated. Wondering if maybe a delayed reaction to tape from port or... Heck I don't know. So itchy though.

  • Abby20
    Abby20 Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2012

    Fast forward, I live in Washington DC and I am also seeing a top notch MO and that's why when I requested the PET scan and she was not in favor of it i kind of trusted her. She thinks the test has proven a moderate accuracy and there is a high possibility of falese positive readings which will put me in an extra dose of anxiety. I agree I should ask twice and keep asking..



  • Abby20
    Abby20 Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2012

    Day 1 after the second session, no more hair :( all fallen down in the morning shower. It is sad to see it all down the drain. i have already put my wig on



    Hope everyone is doing well today

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Oh Abby...so sorry to hear. I know we all go through it, but doesn't make it any easier.

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited October 2012

    Day 8 post first chemo and am feeling better.  Hands hurt, mouth hurts, food is starting to taste funny, my head is itching and today while washing hair noticed that scalp is getting tender.  But the evil headache and the body aches are pretty much gone, not so tired, and I never did get any of the "big bad" SEs like nausea, vomiting, diarrhea or constipation.  I realize they might not all go this well, but so far so good!  Hang in there everyone, we will get through this!

    I did have a PET scan before my surgery.  I had the feeling that was pretty standard procedure around here.

    Trying to come to terms with the imminent hair loss.  My head knows it's inevitable, but my heart hasn't quite accepted it yet.

  • alcb70
    alcb70 Member Posts: 166
    edited October 2012

    Has anyone else on Taxotere had issues with tingling fingers and sore nails yet? I knew that neuropathy was a possibility, but not happy that it's showing up this early in the game.  I've read that it could or could not be permanent. I guess I need to let my oncologist know. I really don't want to change meds and have to take a chance on something else. :(

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 2012

    My onc folks said to massage fingers with coconut oil - they're not sure whether it's the oil or the massage but anecdotal evidence that it can help.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Okay ladies- GO TO THE ICING BOaRDS. Sorry, I've mentioned it before. You don't have to go through the extremes SE.. Most mets go to brain, liver, bones. Icing will increase your comfort. Taxotere only....as far as I know. 15 min prior, during and 15 min after taxotere infusion. Coordinate it with your onc nurse. Ask your dr first and get ok to ice. Chew on ice, and ice on toenails and fingernails.

    Yes! I have had a sore tongue and throat, but mild and tolerable. I have had some peripheral neuropathy, but tolerable. My nails should be fine. No issues after this tx.

    Some are using penguin cold caps and have saved their hair.

    Day 12 and my taste buds are doing a lot better.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited October 2012

    marlene, good for you! I doubt I could have gone back to work and I am not pregnant. S/E other than diarrhea not much - tired but not bad.

    halfcan, hope your #2 went well today and that Neupogen helps with the mouth too. I have not had any noticeable S/E from Neupogen, and #5 tonight. Knock on wood, maybe just lucky. #2 is Tuesday for me.

    Marian

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 2012

    Thanks, MsTori. I am using penguin cold caps to save my hair (so far, so good at day 20). I've decided I can live with nail problems if they happen (am using Hard As Nails polish) cause there's only so many things on which I can focus.

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